Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 07-19-2001Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission July 19, 2001, 7 p.m. AGENDA 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Visitor Presentations a. Athletic Associations b. Staff c. Others 4. Report on Past Council Action a. Award playground bid for Parkers Lake b. Approved location of playground for Environmental Park 5. Unfinished Business a. Millennium Garden update b. Hilde Performance Center update c. Greenwood youth sports update d. Discuss Teen Center tour and letters from Youth Council and Senior groups 6. New Business a. Review update to CIP through 2006 7. Commission Presentation 8. Staff Communication 9. Adjourn Next regular meeting — August 9, 2001 n\parks\staff\eri c\prac\agendas\i uly01.doc Minutes of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting June 14, 2001 Page 35 Present: Chair Anderson, Commissioners Fiemann, Meyer, and Musliner; staff Bisek, Blank, and Pederson; Councilmember Hewitt; City Manager Johnson Absent: Commissioners Singer and Thompson 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Anderson called the June meeting to order at 7:20 p.m. in the Council Chambers. Prior to 7:20, there was no quorum. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion was made by Commissioner Meyer and seconded by Commissioner Fiemann to approve the minutes of the May meeting as presented. Musliner made a correction on pg. 31. She stated that her reason for supporting the skate park being at the Ice Center was the supervision available there with staff trained in first aid. She stated that she did not mention anything about the proximity to the Police station. Motion carried with all ayes. 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. Athletic Associations. b. Staff. Mary mentioned that the Minnesota Monthly Magazine picked the 10 best sites for picnics in the metropolitan area. Parkers Lake was the number one site. Rec-Connect has received two awards of excellence. The MN League of Cities and the MRPA each gave us one. We also received awards of excellence for the Plymouth Creek Center and for the Chocolate Sampler. Someone from MRPA will be coming out to make a presentation at a future Council meeting regarding these awards. Regina Callies is starting full time as a recreation coordinator August 1st. The is the first full time position we've had in 11 years in the recreation division. The Council approved a reclassification for Dan Lauer. He is now a recreation supervisor. MRAC has approved a matching grant for the City of 4,500. We will be receiving that next year. It's a process grant to help arts communities in the suburban area grow. Staff is now working on 2002 budgets. The recreation brochure deadline for fall is August 15. Summer staff training was last night at the Plymouth Creek Center. Musliner asked about the formation of the art committee, the group that is to help make decisions about the type of art that may be displayed in Plymouth's public areas, such as parks, etc. Mary said that committee is still meeting and will be making a formal presentation to PRAC at some point. They may get tied into this arts grant, but Mary wasn't sure in what capacity. Meyer asked about Regina's position. Mary said it's a new position and that she will be taking over some of Mary's programs, along with teen programming and young adult classes. Councilmember Hewitt asked about the fall soccer early deadline and wondered if we would have a second round of registrations after that date. Mary confirmed that the date of June 30th is the deadline, because the entire month of July is needed to form the teams and get the schedules out. We may accept additional registrations after that date but only to fill out teams. PRAC Minutes/June 2001 Page 36 Dwight Johnson, City Manager, discussed the Youth Advisory Council's proposal to have a teen center/coffeehouse. One of the sites they are interested in is the lower level of the Plymouth Creek Center. Dwight stated that the City also owns some houses along County Road 101 that might be possible for such a facility. Another option is a building at West Medicine Lake Park, if one gets built there. Dwight believes the Youth Advisory Council just wants to get the concept presented at this point. Fiemann asked if any of the houses on 101 are isolated from other neighbors. Dwight said that is an issue that needs to be addressed. Dwight said there is a house right next to the watertower that might be appropriate. It is near another house, however. Fiemann asked if there will be older adults there supervising. Dwight said that something probably could be arranged. Meyer is in favor of this idea. She thinks it sounds like they prefer the Plymouth Creek Center as their first choice. Dwight said it's up in the air. The teens said they'd prefer to have a place of their own. Maybe the Plymouth Creek Center would work if they could have their own entrance. Anderson asked about a timeframe. Dwight said there really isn't one. Dwight thinks there may be grant money for this project from the Communities in Collaboration Council. They are favorable about this proposal. Director Blank said staff will start working on this, and it will likely be the number one item on the July agenda. If we tie it into the budgeting cycle, we need to narrow it down to one or two directions to go. Musliner suggested finding out more about the Maple Grove Teen Center and The Depot. c. Others. There were no other presentations. 4. PAST COUNCIL ACTION a. Approved skate park. Director Blank stated that the skate park has been moved to the public works site, following a spirited debate at the Council meeting. Bids on the asphalt surface are due June 15. If it stops raining, it should be operational by mid—July. We will try to get the kids involved in naming it. Dwight stated that this afternoon the Communities in Collaboration met about a grant. They debated today if their grant could be extended to the new location. They voted not to, because it was originally set to be given if the skate park was going to be at the Ice Center. It was a split vote, with quite a debate. The criteria for their grants is connecting youth to the community. They feel that by moving the skate park to another location that critiera will not be met. Meyer asked about the additional cost to move it. Director Blank said it will be about $30,000 more. It will be just east of the water treatment plant. This has a separate entrance. This area will be fenced off and will include a small parking lot for about 10 cars. We budgeted $50,000 for the skate park and that covers the initial cost. Musliner asked if we have established some criteria for grading the success of the skate park. Director Blank said there are advantages to locating the skate park at the Public Works facility. This site is expandable, the hours can be longer as well as the months it will be open, and we are working on ways to judge the park's success. b. Award of bid — Greenwood. The Council awarded the contract for the Greenwood fields. The performance bonds are in. A pre -construction meeting has been held. We delayed starting the project until school was out, and now the weather has delayed us. Work should begin on Monday, June 18, if the rain stops. This site will open for use next spring. The entire site will be sodded. Fall soccer probably will not be played there this year. We did not construct a parking lot or a drinking fountain. PRAC Minutes/June 2001 Page 37 c. Approved the wildflower garden. The Council approved the installation of the wildflower garden on 38th Avenue across from the Plymouth Creek Park. 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS a. Millennium Garden update. Work began today — a survey crew showed up to install the silt fence. The next thing is the mass grading. That is a completely donated item. We will wait until they can work us into their schedule. People continue to buy bricks. Our dedication/grand opening ceremony may be around July 20th, 2002. b. Hilde Performance Center. This project is moving along slowly. Mr. Hilde convened some meetings with the architect and staff. They think the project can come in at the million dollar limit set by Mr. Hilde. The basement may have to come out of the project at this time. Mr. Hilde would like to announce it at the July 5 Music in Plymouth. There is concern about the ground water on this site in terms of putting in a basement. We are waiting for the architects to give us another set of drawings. The basement cost is estimated at $100,000. Councilmember Hewitt said it will cost considerably more to add a basement later. We are trying to stay within Mr. Hilde's limit and still maximize the project. The Council did approve the EAW at their last meeting. The community is embracing the project and is very supportive. d. Playground replacements. Swan Lake is very close to being done. Parkers Lake playground is going to be a catalog playground. We will probably get $60,000 worth of free" product. Director Blank explained what he meant by a catalog playground. The playground manufacturer publishes a catalog and plans to feature this playground in their next issue. Councilmember Hewitt asked about the playground program at Parkers Lake and whether or not it will be cancelled due to the playground replacement. Director Blank asked Mary to look into this. Because the Council agendas have been so full, the environmental park is scheduled for their July 10th meeting. That project may begin by late summer. 6. NEW BUSINESS a. Discuss park tour — select date. Director Blank said that PRAC visited non -Plymouth parks last summer. Historically the park tour has been scheduled prior to beginning discussions on the CIP. Sometimes we use the July meeting to do that. We could do it later in July or early August. It was suggested that PRAC tour the teen centers. It was decided there wouldn't be enough time to visit teen centers prior to the meeting on July 12th, so Director Blank suggested visiting the centers on July 16 and then hold the regular July meeting on the 19th. We will plan to cancel the August meeting, unless pressing business requires a meeting. The Youth Advisory Council has toured the teen center in Maple Grove. A suggestion was made to invite them to attend the tour as well as the Council. 7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION Musliner asked if the Rotary Club ducks would be available at the Music in Plymouth event. Director Blank said the duck race will be held during the parade event on October 6. The Rotary Club has gathered $30,000 from their corporate sponsors. The goal is to sell 10,000 PRAC Minutes/June 2001 Page 38 ducks, which would raise $100,000. Director Blank will let PRAC know as soon as the ducks are available for purchase. 8. STAFF COMMUNICATION The Ice Center has had a couple of projects completed recently. The B rink floor was repainted and the dehumidification system has been installed. Music in Plymouth is on July 5. The Fun Run is June 23rd. Lunds is funding the fireworks this year. The 30th anniversary of Music in Plymouth is 2002. The recent rains have been brutal on our programs. The Wayzata Soccer Tournament directors met and decided to cancel 2/3 of their weekend tournament due to the water—logged fields. Rumors spread on these things like wildfire. We did not cancel the tournament — they did. Some ages will still be allowed to play. Director Blank said staff met with all the turf groups over the winter months and with everyone's cooperation, a set of guidelines to save the fields was agreed upon. Everyone has bought into the idea of preserving the fields. The Wayzata Club should be commended for their decision to cancel their tournament. This will hurt them financially. Director Blank said we can't help them out this year, but maybe next year we can do something for them. Fiemann asked about the ice center sign. Mary said she called the company and they just visited the site yesterday. They said everything is ready but the electric box isn't hot. It's very close to being operational. The two trees that are blocking it will be moved as soon as the ground dries up a little. They will be moved back a few feet. Fiemann asked about the parking issue at LifeTime. Director Blank said this issue is still being researched. Fieman asked if the plans for a parking solution include the possibility of a third sheet of ice. Director Blank said yes. Director Blank said we're focusing on a parking study more so than a third sheet of ice. In order to effectively study parking, however, we have to know where a third sheet could go, but nothing has been adopted in the CIP. Director Blank cautioned everyone to not give the impression that we are going to add a third sheet of ice. Fiemann mentioned the difficulties encountered when trying to enter the soccer field at the Central Middle School. There has to be a solution. Director Blank said the entrance is designed this way to keep bikes off the field or things that could tear up the turf. Director Blank said the school district is not likely to change their minds about opening any other gates. Fiemann suggested that PSA should find someone to operate the gates, so they could be open only during the soccer games. He also commented that parking at this school is challenging. The lot is full and cars are parked on every surrounding side street. Mary commented that numerous activities are taking place at this school besides soccer, and this is contributing to the parking situation. 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m. June 26, 2001 Bill Hunt 14220 44th Place Plymouth, MN 55446 Dear Mr. Hunt: 0 ITV OF PUMOUTR You recently appeared before the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to discuss the proposed playground at the Environmental Park. This item is now scheduled to go to the City Council on Tuesday, July 10, at 7 p.m. The City Council will receive copies of all past communications that have been sent to the City regarding this issue. If you would like to send additional letters or e—mails, please have them to the City no later than Thursday, July 5th, so they can be included in the Council's packet of information. If you have any questions regarding this subject, I can be reached at 509-5201. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter. Sincerely, 9 . , Eric Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: PRAC City Council PLYMOUTH A Beautifu(P(ace 7a Live 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 - TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 onmw www.d.plymouth.mn.us ra June 26, 2001 PITF PLYMOUTR Alan Litts 14180 47th Avenue Plymouth, MN 55446 Dear Mr. Litts: You recently appeared before the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to discuss the proposed playground at the Environmental Park. This item is now scheduled to go to the City Council on Tuesday, July 10, at 7 p.m. The City Council will receive copies of all past communications that have been sent to the City regarding this issue. If you would like to send additional letters or e—mails, please have them to the City no later than Thursday, July 5th, so they can be included in the Council's packet of information. If you have any questions regarding this subject, I can be reached at 509-5201. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter. Sincerely, Eric Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: PRAC City Council PLYMOUTH ABeautifuLPlaceToLive 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 • TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 www.d.plymouth.mmus June 26, 2001 Katherine Hagen 6345 Main Street Maple Plain, MN 55340 Dear Ms. Hagen: You recently appeared before the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to discuss the proposed playground at the Environmental Park. This item is now scheduled to go to the City Council on Tuesday, July 10, at 7 p.m. The City Council will receive copies of all past communications that have been sent to the City regarding this issue. If you would like to send additional letters or e—mails, please have them to the City no later than Thursday, July 5th, so they can be included in the Council's packet of information. If you have any questions regarding this subject, I can be reached at 509-5201. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter. Sincerely, F'", 6 Eric Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: PRAC City Council PLYMOUTH A BeautifulPCace 7a Live 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 • TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 www.d.plymouth.mn.us June 26, 2001 Beverly Romfo 14215 44th Place Plymouth, MN 55446 Dear Mrs. Romfo: You recently appeared before the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to discuss the proposed playground at the Environmental Park. This item is now scheduled to go to the City Council on Tuesday, July 10, at 7 p.m. The City Council will receive copies of all past communications that have been sent to the City regarding this issue. If you would like to send additional letters or e—mails, please have them to the City no later than Thursday, July 5th, so they can be included in the Council's packet of information. If you have any questions regarding this subject, I can be reached at 509-5201. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter. Sincerely, Eric Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: PRAC City Council PLYMOUTH A Beautifu(P(ace To Live 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 • TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 www.d.plymouth.mn.us June 26, 2001 Sarah Seltz 4800 Cheshire Lane Plymouth, MN 55446 Dear Mrs. Seltz: r0 CITY OF PLYMOUTR You recently appeared before the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to discuss the proposed playground at the Environmental Park. This item is now scheduled to go to the City Council on Tuesday, July 10, at 7 p.m. The City Council will receive copies of all past communications that have been sent to the City regarding this issue. If you would like to send additional letters or e—mails, please have them to the City no later than Thursday, July 5th, so they can be included in the Council's packet of information. If you have any questions regarding this subject, I can be reached at 509-5201. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter. Sincerely, 91:- 6- y`ltPc— Eric Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: PRAC City Council PLYMOUTH A Beautiful Place 7o Live 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 • TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 4 u www.d.plymouth.mn.us June 26, 2001 Peg Matuseski 14175 47th Avenue Plymouth, MN 55446 Dear Mrs. Matuseski: r0 CITY CO PLYMOUTR You recently appeared before the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to discuss the proposed playground at the Environmental Park. This item is now scheduled to go to the City Council on Tuesday, July 10, at 7 p.m. The City Council will receive copies of all past communications that have been sent to the City regarding this issue. If you would like to send additional letters or e—mails, please have them to the City no later than Thursday, July 5th, so they can be included in the Council's packet of information. If you have any questions regarding this subject, I can be reached at 509-5201. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter. Sincerely, YV0 Eric Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: PRAC City Council PLYMOUTH ABeaatifuC'Place ToLive 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 • TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 mow www.d.plymouth.mn.us ra June 26, 2001 CITY OF PUMOUTR Shirley Galvin 14000 44th Place Plymouth, MN 55446 Dear Mrs. Galvin: You recently appeared before the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to discuss the proposed playground at the Environmental Park. This item is now scheduled to go to the City Council on Tuesday, July 10, at 7 p.m. The City Council will receive copies of all past communications that have been sent to the City regarding this issue. If you would like to send additional letters or e—mails, please have them to the City no later than Thursday, July 5th, so they can be included in the Council's packet of information. If you have any questions regarding this subject, I can be reached at 509-5201. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter. Sincerely, 5-1v & Eric Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: PRAC City Council PLYMOUTH ABeautifulPCaceToLive 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 - TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 www.d.plymouth.mn.us Teen Centers 7/5/01 Apple Valley: Separate 2500 sq. ft. building. Part used for warming house in winter. Bond referendum in 1997. Opened February 1999. Contact: Bill Bird, 952-953-2300. Free drop in 7 days/week: M-TH,1-8 p.m. 6-12 grades FS, 1-10 p.m. Sun, 1-6 p.m. Activities: big screen TV, video games, foosball, air hockey, ping pong, electronic darts, pin ball, sports equipment (located in park), roller hockey. A skate park just opened next to the building. Slow start. Attendance is up 51% since they opened. Problems: one broken window, a minor skirmish with parents called, a stolen video game, and a stolen skateboard. Teen Council — the council was inconsistent and was dropped, starting again. Brooklyn Park: Neighborhood Teen Center in an old park building. It is going to be tom down. An addition is going to be added to the local elementary school near the Junior High School. It is not a drop in center. Burnsville: The Garage, 952-895-4664 Contact: Eric Billiet, 952-895-4500 Open for almost 2 years Administered by the City of Burnsville Funding from: Family Service Grant Public Health Grant Drug and Violence Prevention Grant Size: 6,000 sq. ft. in an the old City Maintenance Garage Use: The school drops off about 20 kids per day. They provide transportation home. In the evening, there are health-related meetings, i.e. N & AAA. Jr. High until 5:30 p.m. High School 6-8 p.m. Weekends open until 11:30 p.m. Attendance 100-200 per night. 2 stages — one live bands, another DJ. Bands volunteer to provide live music on Friday and Saturday nights. Cost $3-4. If they are a member of the MN Teen Music Association free. Non-profit run by teens. Monday is meeting night. www.eccentrix.com/music/thegarage Champlin: Coffee house with a restaurant — privately run. Eden Prairie: Teen programs only. Adventure teen trips going well. Edina: Teen centers come and go. Right now no teen center. Working on a for fee skate park with Bloomington and Richfield built on parkland to be run by the YMCA. Hopkins: The Depot, 9451 Excelsior Blvd., 952-938-2204 Contact: Anthony Hall, Teen Center Coordinator 952-582-8254 Teen Board of Directors grades 9-12 Student nm. Drop In M -Th 6:30 a.m. — 9 p.m. F 6:30 a.m. — 11 p.m. Sat 8 a.m. —10 p.m. Sun 9 a.m. — 8 p.m. Rent Building from the railroad for $1 per year. Opened in 1998. Originally raised over $300,000 from private donations, materials and labor. 1998 $96,000 two year grant from Department of Children, Youth and Family Learning Also $25,000 grant from Park Nicollet and $10,000 from McKnight Weekends high school bands play — no cover charge Kids from the Skatepark hang out Programs offered are based on the needs of the kids that come in Two -FT adult staff. Always an adult present. Weekends adult volunteer chaperones. No posted rules — no problems. A little graffiti and minor issues with board games. Some broken furniture because of large numbers on weekends. Chemically free. Smoke free. New Hope: Mosaic Youth Center, Near NW YMCA Contact: Melissa Bachman, 612-749-9561 Currently doing a capital campaign. Hoping to break ground in the spring of 2002. Social services and drop in. Maple Grove: Maple Grove Community Center Teen Center, 12951 Weaver Lake Rd. Contact: Sean Williamson, FT Recreation Youth Outreach, 763-494-6500 Coin operated pool table, TV/VCR, vending, video games, arcade games. Hours: M-TH until 9 p.m. F/Sat until 10 p.m. Sun until 7 p.m. St. Louis Park:The Underground, Hwy. 7 between Penn and Quebec in old warehouse - donated Contact: Todd Looney, 952-938-1121, YES Kids, run by a church Board of Directors — adults and teens. Open for 6 years Summer hours — Thursday from 7 — 9 p.m. for different age groups Facilities: game room, multi-purpose room, coffee shop setting with teen live music Rules: no smoking or drinking, common courtesy - 1 fight in 5 years Plymouth Youth Advisory Council Proposal for A Teen Center/Coffee House Permission to create one and for a location) Introduction: Why the city should have a Teen Center/Coffee House 1. Uses for a Teen Center/Coffee House a. Teen Hangout b. Homework c. Recreation d. Dances e. Performances f. Intergenerational Gatherings 2. Logistics a. Where the Teen Center/Coffee House could be located. b. Who could use it and when. c. What needs to be done to make this a reality. 3. Included Venues for a Teen Center/Coffee House 2 Introduction At the past two youth town forums, participants expressed a need and a desire for a place for teens to go. Many teens specifically identified a desire for a coffeehouse or a teen center located closer to their homes. They had frequented "The Depot" and other city's coffeehouses or teen centers and want the Plymouth to have one of its own. We believe that the City of Plymouth could build a Teen Center/Coffee House to give teens a place to go. As we envision a teen center/coffee house, it would be a facility with many uses: with space for games, an Internet cafd, and a place for gathering. A Teen Center/Coffee House would benefit the City in numerous ways. It would aid in `Building a Quality Community" and in creating programs and venues for Plymouth's citizens. Uses for a Teen Center/Coffee House A city teen center/coffee house would provide a safe chemical free supervised teen hangout where teens could interact, mentor, and develop leadership and managerial skills. We envision a place where teens can go to hangout, do their homework, access the Internet, and have fun. A Teen Center/Coffee House would provide a place to hold dances for teens. Maple Grove's Teen Center sponsors many dances for middle school kids in their city. Along with holding dances, a teen center would allow for performances of sorts to go on each week. Many high school kids are required to go to poetry readings, or have bands and would like to perform for their peers. A teen center/coffee house would allow us to accomplish all of these desires. 3 With a teen center/coffee house, senior citizens would be able to access the Internet or take classes teaching them to use computers or the Internet. After school kids could come in and use the teen center/coffee house to do research for projects, listen to a band, buy coffee or other drinks and gather with their friends. Logistics The Plymouth Creek Center currently has unfinished space under the ballroom that could serve as a teen center/coffee house. It has outside access in the room so teens wouldn't be going through the Creek Center to get to it. Also with the space in there, the teen center/coffee house would be open to others using it during the day for games or Internet access. As an alternative location, the City currently owns or will shortly own several houses on Highway 101. One of these houses could be used as a Teen Center/Coffee house. If this location were to be used, things such as utilities would have to be paid for, but it would attract more teens to it because it wouldn't be as intimidating as a City building. The Depot, Minnetonka's Coffeehouse, and the Underground, St. Louis Park's Coffeehouse, are operated in houses that have been remodeled. Other building location possibilities are also being discussed and explored. We would have the teen Center/Coffee house open to teen use during the hours of Monday -Thursday: 4-8, Friday -Saturday: 4-11, and Sunday: 12-6. The hours would not E exceed curfew and during the week, the "Center" would act as a drop—in center (i.e. teens drop in whenever they want, any age). The ages we believe that this would service during theses hours would be 13-19. There would be a cutoff time, kids age 13-14 would be expected to leave before 8 p.m. since high school kids would otherwise not like to show up because they do not wish to associate with middle school kids. Kids younger than that would not be allowed in because at that point it almost acts as a baby-sitting center, which it would not be outfitted to handle. Included Venues To create a teen center we believe that the following could be included: 1. Video System to show movies and for other miscellaneous uses. 2. Pool tables (Could run pool tournaments.) 3. Dance area 4. Ping-Pong Tables 5. Couches 6. Arcade games (Requested Basketball free-throw game) 7. Board Games 8. Internet Cafe (To teach citizens how to access the Internet, LAN games, homework, research, and other miscellaneous uses.) 9. Stage (multi—purpose) 10. Sound System (Bands, videos, poetry readings, performances, and other miscellaneous reasons.) 11. Tables/Chairs 12. Food Service: Concession Type 5 y,-12.1 Youth Town Forum 2001 Discussion Responses indicates number of times comment was made 1) What do you like about Plymouth? Clean air Cold Friendly people Frisbee golf Good school district 4) It's safe Like the diversity need more basketball courts need more duck ponds No diversity Not a bad place Scenery Shopping There are a lot of lots 2) How does Plymouth differ from other communities? Coffee houses Diversity is not here Higher crime area Higher on a social scale Ice cream here for soccer players It's newer It's richer Less crime Plymouth is less commercial, but becoming more commercial School system "kicks ass" Seems similar to other places Stricter curfew There are more facilities than other places We have "Link 4" 3) What topics would you like to discuss at a HRC student workshop? How people with disabilities should be treated 2) Racial profiling Racism/prejudice T, ,\ Page 2of5 4) How do you feel about the new developments in Plymouth? What would you like to see (new developments) in Plymouth? Allocate a place just for wildlife Dance hall would be good, something like "Gators" Department stores, outlet malls Diversity of development Don't want to see more banks 2) Doii't wart tv See more grocery stores Expanding too fast Fancy restaurants, more classy Good competition Hate cutting trees Improve watersheds Kentucky Fried Chicken near Tom Thumb Making roads congested More nice basketball courts Need developments that get people out to do something, like $2.00 movies Need youth places not affiliated with City, like bowling, pool hall; no youth center New mini -restaurants are good Pretty good 2) too many houses/townhomes/apartments Wildlife Would like to see a pool hall Would like to see a Target near high school Would like to see more conservation 5) Is there enough safety in the neighborhoods? Could be safer around Armstrong H.S. Good, safe neighborhoods Too many police 6) What areas of improvement do you see Plymouth needing? Already improving so much Extend ages for soccer and softball programs 3) Fix neighborhood roads Green arrows; should be a yield thing 3) Less development Limited ice time — add a rink Listening to youth More Frisbee golf Not as many stop lights, flashing stop lights by the school Not enough stores Rugby teams 1, ' d - I Page 3 of 5 Skate Parks Stricter laws for littering Too many cookie cutter houses Would like to see more street lights 7) What don't you want to see happening in Plymouth? Don't want to see more shopping malls Lund's is dumb, pointless Lund's provides jobs so it is kind of good No billboards No more people No more tennis courts 8) What would you like to see Plymouth improve upon? Closing times of businesses Coffee house/teen center Cross country skiing/downhill skiing Drive-in movies Have Youth Jam at the High School, and invite other schools Lower the drinking age Make the City paper more noticeable More "ride alongs" More basketball courts More original eating places More pools, arcades, clubs (Uptown atmosphere) More sidewalks More social services 3) Need more involvement in team sports No more grocery stores Park and Rec. activities: whitewater rafting, bungee jumping, plane trips, rugby, soccer for older ages, free night at LifeTime, go-carts, concerts, art, sky diving Plant trees Snow -tubing park Try to get a Northwest Athletic Club 2) Would like to see improved roads Would like to see improved snow plowing of roads and sidewalks 9) Where do you see Plymouth in 10 years? 2) Highly populated Like Maple Grove in 10 years, better school More animal rights; people are going to be mad Not a lot of trees 5) Overly developed, major city 3) Top community 10) What activities would you like to see Plymouth sponsoring? Academic area (computers) 2) Basketball courts Bowling Coffeehouse activities: local karaoke, summer weekdays Dance club Hockey No activities Ping pong Pool tables Rollerblade paths Rugby 2) Skate park Sponsored plenty already Tennis courts without geese Youth Center Page 4 of 5 bands, comfy chairs, space, open mike night, 11) Are there any ways (or new ideas) to improve on existing concerts/programs? Music in Plymouth" 4) Audition bands for people our age Battles of the bands Ben Harper Comedy clubs Dance clubs Mini golf places More advertising for "Fire and Ice" More advertising for "Plymouth on Parade" More advertising for "Youth Jam" 2) More concerts, more publicity for them More entertainment More for youth 12) Have you heard of the HRC? If you know what the HRC is do you notice any violations? Heard of it Kids who got suspended by teachers who were too strict We treat each other pretty well, but religion is pretty strict Why hasn't City been complained to about Christmas lights? 13) Do you feel the HRC is worthwhile? 14) Where did you hear about the HRC? Page 5 of 5 15) What kind of volunteer opportunities have you heard of in Plymouth? Do a Mentor Connection type of thing History Fest Interfaith Outreach Library Plymouth volunteers 3) Summer Park and Rec stuff: coach for games; puppet wagon/mobile IT— t d v 2001 Youth Town Forum Evaluation Comments Indicates number of occurances Liked: 4) Being able to give our opinion on what we want happening in Plymouth. Finding out about more things in Plymouth. 16) Discussing in the small groups - we got to hear input from our peers 4) Discussions with the Mayor. Dinner. Group discussions. Everything 4) Expressing my views; being able to talk a lot and input of my opinion. 31) Food 2) Getting extra credit 5) The attempt to bring youth into the community 5) How things were very organized. It was a lot better than I imagined. The small groups were great & you felt like you were really a part of something important. My group. Very good group leader (Ifna). The small group thing was the best. Talking with kids around my own age who also attend Wayzata High School 3) Telling the City our opinions. That they were asking us our ideas about the youth center and also the idea of the youth center. The different ideas people had. That the Mayor was there to speak to us. That they were asking for ideas from the kids. The fact that the committees are open to new suggestions. The Mayor interacting with us. They :vent into great detail on things. Looked very interested in things we were saying. The pool hall idea. The youth center. The atmosphere. Pizza/food. 5) The question and answer session with the Mayor. The small group discussions. The food. Chance for extra credit. Volunteers (Brianna) were nice. The youth center or entertainment place for teens to congregate. I didn't like: 2) All the questions about the HRC. Being in groups with people we know because we didn't meet anyone new. Didn't understand everything. 9) How long it was. 21) How the Mayor & other reps were only here for 5 minutes. If they really wanted to hear our opinions & questions I don't think they really had any interest in what we thought. They needed to be here for more than 5 minutes. 2) More open mike time I didn't like the fact that people left after the food. 1 didn't like that once our questions were over; there was nothing to do. 3) 1 didn't like the pizza. 2) Loose structure (although it probably is necessary) Not being able to have a sky -diving option. 4) Speakers didn't seem very prepared. That they didn't explain why sidewalks were not a good idea & what the sides are for and against them. Make sure each small group has a team leader, because we didn't have one. That we didn't get very much information about the commercial buildings that are coming to Plymouth. That we didn't have sheets that explained stuff. 5) The small groups. Nobody in my group talked & the questions were too open - not specific enough. There wasn't a lot not to like. 1 1,- 2001 Youth Town Forum Evaluation comments Page 2 of 2 I learned: 16) A lot about Plymouth I didn't know before. A lot about the Youth City Council. It was nice to hear what they are doing and that they are trying to do more for teens. 7) A lot about what's planned in our city. 12) A ton of stuff about the Human Rights Commission and what they do. 6) About Council's general outlook on development About more activities Plymouth offers & what they are planning to do. 3) About the bridge idea & the water supply. about the development of a new "Carvers" [Culver's] Restaurant About the different groups & organizations. About the youth center. About what people had in mind about the community. How much it costs to build a bridge and how we are not a spendy community. 2) How I can get more involved in my community. 2) More about different groups that youth can get involved in. Issues that the cities are working on as well as projects. More about human resource council & development in Plymouth. More about issues and how to work well in a group. 2) Nothing. 1 already know everything. Peer pressure can be forceful. Programs that Plymouth has. 3) Problems with our city and how we're dealing with them. How the city's dealing with youth. That it's important. That there should be a pool hall. That there was a Plymouth Creek Center. Also that they are planning on putting in a youth center. That this program has only been going on for 2 years The 8 million dollar watershed plan. Expansion of LifeTime parking lots. The problems of the town I didn't learn many solutions though. That the Mayor and Council aren't cool. What the Mayor looks like. Who the Mayor was. Feature developments & improvements. About the secret bridge theory project. Next Time: Allow more time to ask questions (the Council). Better speakers. Don't know. Explain and expand on what programs are. Additional Comments: 2) Food was good Have it outside. 2) have it semi-annually instead of just once a year. 1 liked it. I plan to come back next year. I wanna be in the Youth Council or a subcommittee. nice building 2) No Papa John's. Sweet 2) Thank you 2) This is a great idea - getting kids involved will help the community. CAMPBELL KNUTSON Professional Association 317 Eagandale Office Center 1380 Corporate Center Curve Eagan, Minnesota 55121 We are pleased to announce that Andrea McDowell Poehler and Matthew K. Brokl have become Shareholders with the firm Soren M. Mattick has joined the firm as an Associate CAMPBELL KNUTSON Professional Association Attorneys at Law July 2, 2001 Eric Blank proposed that we prepare a list of reasons why expansion of the lower level is needed. In order to expand senior programs, we are recommending to finish the lower level of Plymouth Creek Center. Seniors would be willing to share this space with teenagers. Right now, Wednesday Bridge and 500 Card Clubs are at their limit, which is symptomatic of growth for other programs. By adding another 8,000 square feet, this will open up space to expand other programs. The room could be less formal than the Fireside Room as long as it is comfortable. Sara N ittelsteadt has inquiries for other programs, but no space is available. Hopefully establishment of additional space would free up expansion for chess, checkers, mah-jong, women's club, a mentoring program between young people and seniors, ping-pong, pool table, shuffleboard, etc. Cribbage would like to meet every week, but because of other activities using the Fireside Room, they now can only meet twice a month. The space for computers in the expanded area would be utilized by seniors as well as teenagers. In summary, we feel that it is necessary that we have this additional space and hope that the city will agree with us. Signed by: r X-7 eG y a tU y/ ifiz) l+ -G /a—'t11—*)'mow 1-—i-c-e. —/- 7'.e-C'.,c1iv 9-c ter,.-.. .o ct-„ - . v/, . j' _.._ Visits to Plymouth Senior Program Groups The following is a short account of the visits that I made to the Plymouth Senior Groups. For the most part the groups are very happy with the building and enjoy coming here. There are some cases where they need more storage space and would like it in the room where they meet. We will be looking for ways to accommodate them. Each group thought that they would grow some in the next five years, but most didn't think they would outgrow their present space. I can see that in order to offer classes and events that happen on a:sporadic occasion that this could become harder to do as we book special interest groups into the spaces. June 2- Over 55 Club The Over 551club moved here from ST. Mary's of the Lake Church. They had met there for 20 years. Their numbers had been dropping there over the past 5 years. It seems to be holding it's own at around 25 members. They really enjoy meeting and playing card afterward. They do not see a big growth in their group but think it may grow some. They had no real concerns about the space. June 4 — Walking Club Has not grown much during the last year. They lost a few people when they switched to walking at Plymouth Creek Park, but gained a few to make up for it. They emphasized that their group is a support group and that they have become very close-knit. They say a lot more people are walking because of the dome, but they don't join their club. The group likes to walk at Ridgedale in the winter. In 5 years they see their group becoming larger and more diverse as they encourage people that come for the ESL circles to join them. June 5 — Story Time Players This group has added a lot of new members. They had 15 people in the group one year ago and now have 22. They are doing a lot more performances, including book fairs in the evening, libraries, preschools and of course the schools. In 5 years they don't see their group growing by leaps and bounds but think they will expand to 5grade performances too. One of their concerns is that their music stands are not in the room where they rehearse. Maintenance has started bringing their stands in for them now, which helps. They would also appreciate a couple of liteweight tables for their meeting before rehearsal. Otherwise they are very happy. June 6 — Book Club This group was started after we moved into the building ... a newly formed group. Their numbers grew quickly, but have remained pretty constant. If they did grow too big, they thought they should have 2 book discussion groups, because too many people discourages discussion. They would like an extra stack of chairs brought into the room .Some days they outnumber the chairs in the conference room. June 7- Needle Arts Group This is a newly formed group that started when we moved into the building. It is a small group but continues to grow. They have had 5 or 6 loyal members from the start and have recently added 5 new members. They love the space and the opprtunity to meet and work together. In five years they thought they would grow some June 13 — Bridge Club This group has really grown since we moved here. The bridge group had been meeting a St. Mary's for many years and had around 4-5 tables. Now they have 11 tables. They are close to capacity. They were not sure how much the group would grow. Subsequent to this meeting, we have set limits qn their registrations , so that we don't have more people show up than we can handle. Next year, we are planning to give Plymouth residents priority on registrations. About 20% of the people registered last year were non-residents. June 8 — Gardening Club This is a newly formed group that started when we moved into the building. It continues to be a small group but has grown from 3 to around 10. They will probably not grow too big they didn't think but maybe around 20. They thought that they might need a bigger room someday. They like to have speakers and then need more space than the conference room. June 12 — Cribbage Group This group is new to the program. They didn't exist before. They have about 3 tables of players and think that they may grow to 5-6 tables over the next 5 years. They think the space is very comfortable and that this is a welcoming place. They would like to have nametags for every group which would help people get to know each other. June 13 — Plymouth Writer's Group This group was meeting at Plymouth Covenant Church before meeting here. They have remained about the same size which fluctuates between 4 and 8. They consider themselves a support group that writes to help work through issues. They are happy as clams with the space, even though we sometimes move them around to accommodate other groups or meetings. June 14 — Plymouth Carvers This group started with 20 several years ago and now have 47 on the roster. Most weeks they have 20-25 carvers present and that has remained the same. They think they may add 5-6 each year but some also drop out. They are happy with their space and are very productive. Socializing is a really big part of their work. June 14 — Plymouth Handycrafters In 1990 they started with 8 people. They came in with about 25 people and now have 34. 20-25 meet regularly. They think they might increase in number some in the next five years. They think it is a very comfortable room and are happy here. They could use more storage space and would like to have more storage in the room where they meet. This would reduce the amount of hauling that Marty needs to do. There are a couple more cabinets in the room that they will inherit this summer. June 26 — Men's Clpb The men's club is a new addition to our senior program. They started with 6 members and have now grown to about 30 members. They have expanded to include field trips including 2 fishing trips a golf outing and a trip to the federal reserve building. They really have fun and love the space here. They think their group will grow but don't think it will outgrow the Fireside room. June 27 - Computer User's Group This group is newly formed and started when we opened the building. They have about 30 people on their roster and vary from 10-15 people who attend. They use the LCD projector to help with computer questions that the group submits to the leader ahead of time. They are quite happy with their space. Occasionally we need to move them to a meeting room and then they don't have the LCD. Plymouth Rockers I was not able to meet with the Plymouth Rockers who are on hiatus, but I did talk with several of their members and they are all very happy with their space. They are much more comfortable here and have more room. They feel their group will grow slowly with a few additions each year. They have 67 members this year. Plymouth Senior Club This club met at West Medicine Lake Community Club for 25 years and are happy to be in the new building. Around 100 people were coming to meetings before the move and now around 115-120 regularly come. They would appreciate more storage in the room where they meet and we did provide a cabinet which can hold some of their things. Plymouth Pedalers Biking Club I had planned to meet with them but it didn't work out that day. They are growing quickly now. They had 15 on each ride last year and now it is consistenly 30. It is all due to a very organized leader. They only use the building 1 or 2 times per year for meetings otherwise they meet at the trail. 500 Card Club I have talked with their leader Laddie Miller about the growth of this group which is in the same situation as the Bridge Club. They started with 4-5 tables and now consistently have 10-11 tables. There is only room for 12 tables in the room. About 20-25% of the group does not live in Plymouth and Plymouth first may be a way to help this situation for the time being. Over 50 Tennis League I have not been able to contact them. They at last notice were using 4 courts with 4/court on 3 days /week. They would like to have a port a potty closer to their courts. It is a hike for them. Exercise Classes The exercise classed which meet here really like the Plymouth Room with the hardwood floor for their.classes. It can be a conflict with other events in the Plymouth room. Art Classes They love the rooms and are very happy with our building. Plynouth LLandey Cra ern. The craft group a#anted in /988 ui-tA 7 aeniona (Betty Leach, MabLe SwanaoA, darty SuntS, DeLoree. Cngman, Chine macron, Lonnai.ne kinney and CanoLine Llanf). They met at MaAZ'y Surd t3!a home. When attendance incrieaaed they met at Went medicine Lake Community Club. We ane now membeAA with mane aeni.ona expreaai.ng an intea- e,t in wining. At fiA.t the group had no fundi io each member biwugA;6 thea own craft iupplie& ur&L the aupplle& were gone.. Originally they made cAa to for Amba„ador Cane Cement craft nate. #owevet it uaa decided that the group uvaid make favona tot Lgmouth Seni.on. Ci;U. ena Club', monthly meeting, and al4o make caafia to aeJL duo- ing. %Lynou;Wa A# Yeaiiva . in Septem6ea which they have been doing tot 8 geaA . Am the pnoceeda of the aaLe,., we now buy out cAaft aupp .Zes but mane in"Atantly we make m=enoua. confiu.6uti,ona. Sot exampLe, thi,. put yeah. we have cont4i.6uted I/,000 fon the centet a Millennium Sinden. We have puachaaed a atainle„-,reel . cant, bingo chary bingo ball,., /j card tables fvt the aeni.ona to uae and we have contiubu;W ,f300 to the %Lynou;th Senior %togaam And - al,o contat6uted to home 3nee, Wear //Medicine Lake Commuuty Club, 4m6aa4adon. Cane Center. B St, maty of the Lobe. Catholic Church We ati,LL have ampLe. fund, in teaerve for At&Ae contn.i.buti,ona whenever the craft group feeler i,. needed Oua #1 pro6Lem a atonage. apace. We appreciate the centen.'a effort in auppLyeng come atonage. in ,meeting Room / pLua the 3 ate&t cabinefa doune.taita. LLiiaever all out completed cAaft4 that ane being held for the September gale &.iili. needs to be atoned at Manty"a home thin plan. more craft iuppLier. When Marty a" hen home, the gnaup wi.LL not know where to atone what ,he- ha& & perhaps will need to atop making cnafta to ieLL and thereby wLU be unable io make AduAa contnibutiona. ALao, it would be Lean e ffort on the group i4 evevvliv could be on one level - ' our meeting,. pLua aupplies. Now we need io go dounat / to 3 times a meeting for auppLiea as well as 6ti.ngi.np and tefwuzi ng &uppLies each time that /Mlanty has mt home. Any corv»io"ii.on tot mote atonage would be gnxat appneccated Aa an added note, every item made by the cnafteA& ane not for ihemaelvea. They bury completed cna#A a& evenyone. eLse. T a All, na tena Man y` 41- y ChaZ+.penaon DATE: July 19, 2001 TO: PRAC FROM: Eric J. Blank, Director, Parks and Recreation SUBJECT: Update of Capital Improvements Budget The City Manager has asked that we do an updated capital improvements budget starting with mid -year 2001 and going through the year 2006. As you will recall, we adopted a capital improvements budget for the year 2001-2005. The City Manager would like to share the draft CIP with the City Council at a study session at the end of August. Therefore, we want to just present some ideas to you at your July meeting and will provide you with further details at your August 9 meeting. Listed below are some of the items that we are considering for inclusion in the revised CIP. 2002 Add a trail on Rockford Road between Goldenrod Lane and Zachary Lane. This has been requested by a number of the residents for safety reasons. Repair building at East Medicine Lake Beach. Consider the large West Medicine Lake Pavilion building. Landscaping and some additional outside electrical outlets at the amphitheater. Partial finishing of the lower level of the Plymouth Creek Center for senior and/or youth programs. Possible improvements and expansion of parking at the Plymouth Ice Center/LifeTime Fitness. 2003 Move the trail proposed for Lancaster Lane from 36th to Pilgrim Lane back one year from 2002 to 2003. 2006 New trails Art in the Park Transfer to Park Replacement Playground replacement Parking lot repair and replacement EB/np 04A