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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 05-19-1999Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission May 19,19990 7 p.m. AGENDA 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Visitor Presentations a. Athletic Associations b. Staff c. Others 4. Report on Past Council Action a. Approved bids on Activity Center b. Approved name "Plymouth Creek Center" c. Approved giving Luce Line Trail to Hennepin Parks d. Approved disc golf proposal for Plymouth Creek Park e. Council took no action on skate park proposal. S. Unfinished Business a. Comprehensive plan - Barry Warner b. C. 6. New Business a. b. C. 7. Commission Presentation S. Staff Communication 9. Adjourn Next regular meeting - June 10 n\parks\slaff\erfc\prat\agendas\apr99.d" Minutes of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting April 8, 1999 Page 16 Present: Chair Anderson, Commissioners Willegalle, Priebe, Musliner, Wahl, Fiemann, Thompson; Planning Commissioner Stein; Councilmember Spigner; staff Bisek, Blank and Pederson 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Anderson called the April meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion was made by Commissioner Wahl and seconded by Commissioner Musliner to approve the minutes of the March meeting as presented. The motion carried with all ayes. 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. Athletic Associations. None b. Staff. Mary Bisek talked briefly about her vacation to New Zealand and Australia. She said the Great Barrier Reef was spectacular. She explained that Rick Busch had undergone brain surgery on March 26 and that he's doing very well. Staff is a little behind hiring the individual that will be taking his place when he takes over the activity center manager position. She indicated that we're going to have a separate recreation brochure beginning with the August issue of the City newsletter. Mary asked PRAC for ideas for the new brochure. We will be looking at promotional materials for the new activity center/sports dome. Primavera is coming up on May 14-15. We are in the process of doing summer hiring. The summer brochure went out April 1 and registrations begin April 9. Commissioner Fiemann said it's good news that we're breaking away from the regular city newsletter. 4. PAST COUNCIL ACTION a. The Council awarded bids for three new playgrounds at Green Oaks, Turtle Lake, and LaCompte. b. Facility rental rates were approved. The Council added the language back in about obscene lyrics and lewd behavior not being permitted. Director Blank said you could have the language in the policy, but if anyone contested it, they probably would win. c. Council approved amending ordinance on having a beach open without lifeguards. We will be consistent now with Hennepin Parks, who has the same policy. We are having trouble recruiting lifeguards and may have to cut back the hours on other beaches because of that. 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS a. Comprehensive Plan. There was nothing on the agenda this evening. Fernbrook Lane alignment north of Schmidt Lake Road is being studied. Eight different alignments are being reviewed. This is moving forward reasonably. Our contract with the consultant PRAC Minutes/April 1999 Page 17 allows for only so many meetings. We'll be hitting the park plan hard next month, or the trail plan. This may be the only thing on the agenda for May. b. Activity center/fieldhouse. Director Blank said that printing of the specification books was completed today. Bid date is Tuesday, April 27, at 2 p.m. A general contractor bid will be opened which will include 90% of the project. A second bid will be for the air dome structure. There are three such contractors. Bid three will be for the astroplay turf. Staff expects the Council to award the bid on May 4. The ground -breaking ceremony will be sometime in May in the late afternoon. Once bids are opened and awarded, a final budget can be adopted. Director Blank explained that the City Charter requires that we must hold a public hearing on the issue of using $3 million of community improvement funds. Commissioner Thompson asked if the public hearing is just to inform the public. Director Blank said it's necessary to make the public aware that community improvement funds are being used. Director Blank then opened a discussion on naming the facility and said he had five suggestions, which had been made by staff. Director Blank's personal favorite is Plymouth Creek Center. He said he wants something decided, so a banner can be made available for the groundbreaking. Commissioner Thompson suggested the Plymouth Activity and Arts Center. She doesn't like adding Creek to the title, because she believes it makes it too specific to a certain area. Commissioner Wahl doesn't like Plymouth Creek either. Neither did Commissioner Priebe. None of the commissioners liked the name Plymouth Pavilions. Commissioner Musliner liked Commissioner Thompson's suggestion of Plymouth Activity and Arts Center. Commissioner Priebe wanted to know if the facility will be of adequate breadth to have community center in the title. Director Blank said the facility will not encompass all the things that most community center's typically do. Primary uses will be seniors, arts, and miscellaneous activities. Commissioner Willegalle liked Plymouth Activity Center and reminded everyone that it has always been referred to as the Plymouth Activity Center in all written documents and whenever it's been mentioned in the local newspaper. CHAIR ANDERSON THEN MOVED TO CALL THE FACILITY PLYMOUTH ACTIVITY AND ARTS CENTER. COMMISSIONER FIEMANN SECONDED THE MOTION. Commissioner Wahl then agreed with Commissioner Willegalle and said he prefers Activity Center and so does Commissioner Priebe. There was some discussion then on whether or not it needed to be voted on or just a consensus agreement. Chair Anderson decided to withdraw the motion. Commissioner Priebe suggested a show of hands. The consensus agreement was to call it Plymouth Activity Center. COMMISSIONER WAHL MOVED TO NAME THE NEW FACILITY PLYMOUTH ACTIVITY CENTER. CHAIR ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. Commissioner Willegalle asked about a new group's plan for a skateboard park. He wanted to know if this was happening again. Director Blank said the Four Downs Skate Park closed their doors and that they wanted to relocate to Oakwood Park. Director Blank discouraged this due to a shortage of parking. The group was asked to take a look at the rink at Plymouth Creek or to consider the parking lot behind the ice center. They will be the owners/operators of the facility. They want to be operational by this summer. Director Blank said they are writing a proposal for submittal to the city manager. It is PRAC Minutes/April 1999 Page 18 possible that there could be a skate park behind the ice center this summer. Planning Commissioner Stein asked why Four Downs closed. Director Blank said they couldn't overcome their financial difficulties. 6. NEW BUSINESS a. Disc golf course proposal. Director Blank said that he first met with Mr. Bork two years ago and said he could put a course in Plymouth Creek Park, but he was informed that it may have to be removed later. From day one, the course was a popular attraction. Mr. Bork did all the work, made the baskets, and kept the course fairway clean. Course has now been removed to make way for the new activity center. Staff is now proposing to move forward with a new course. It would be in the woods and would follow the creek. Mr. Bork would be willing to help with the layout of the course. Mr. Bork would donate the baskets again, help with the installation and also help care for it. We would own the course. The annual operating expenses would be very minimal. Director Blank hasn't been back in that area in awhile, but has noticed that there are some erosion problems that need to be corrected by adding some culverts, and doing some landscaping. Director Blank proposes that we go ahead and reinstall the course. Commissioner Willegalle complimented Mr. Bork on the previous course and felt bad that old course had to be removed. Commissioner Priebe asked what's involved in preparing the property for the new course. Director Blank said it's a big woods with a canopy of large trees and some small underbrush trees. Mr. Bork said a typical fairway is 20 feet wide. Director Blank and Park Superintendent Mark Peterson will go through and choose which small trees need to be removed. Most of the fairways already exist. There are just a few places where some trees would have to come out. Director Blank said we'd add some woodchips to take care of the erosion and to keep it from getting worse. Director Blank said about two dozen or so small trees less than an inch in diameter would have to be removed. COMMISSIONER WILLEGALLE MOVED AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED A MOTION TO PROCEED WITH DISC GOLF COURSE WITH MR. BORK PUTTING IN $1,500 WORTH IN BASKETS AND THE CITY WILL BE OWNER/OPERATOR OF THE COURSE. MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. 7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION None. 8. STAFF COMMUNICATION Director Blank said there will be an Arbor Day Celebration on May 7 at Birchview Elementary. There is an ice show at the Ice Center May 14-16. Star performer will be professional Olympic caliber skater from Canada. Director Blank said that Councilmember Spigner will be holding a Ward 3 Town Meeting in West Medicine Lake Park using the showmobile. Music in Plymouth is on June 30. Mary Bisek asked if there would be a park tour this year. Director Blank said it could be in May or June. The problem with the June meeting might be that the regular meeting night would need to be devoted to working on the comprehensive plan. The May meeting will definitely be a work session on the comprehensive plan. Director Blank said he could provide maps and commissioners could go on a park tour on their own. Director Blank thinks they should visit northwest Plymouth PRAC Minutes/April 1999 Page 19 and actually see the area that's being planned. It was decided to put it on hold and decide later if a park tour is necessary. 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 7:50 p.m. SIF No. 0993351 AGENDA Community'1'rails Presentation and Discussion 19ytuoot1h FRAC Mecting May 19,1999 1, Introduction Purposc ol'o•ail system: rccrcation and (ransportaiion Analysis of barriers, opporiunitics, and constraints (analysis trap) 2. Current Tiail System and Plan Jurisdiclion State DNR I-ienncpin Parks City of Plymouth Trail Types (grapbics of typical cross-sections) On -road Bike Routes Sidewalks OILRoad turd Independent Trails P.xisling/Proposed (according to 1992 Trail Pian Update) (ntap of existing system) Overview of projects awniling compictlon I Improvements to Trail Plan Criteria frail col'ridm's with gaps Trnil extensions Connections hetwecn oorridors Trail upgrades Two-sided Imlls on primary streets Projects Trail corridors with gaps XL'nlulll Lanc/Northwost Boulevard from Hcrilatyc Park to CR 6 f 13nsbwost connection front Maple Creck Park Trtil to Niagara Lane Nail extensions Connections between corridors Nathan Lane froth Bass Lake Road to Three Ponds Park Trail Fcrnbrook Lane From CR 6 to the Luce Line Trail frail upgrades (sidewalk or on -road to bitnminous) Zachary Lanc ITom TH 55 south to city limits Larch Lanc Pioovicw lane CR 101 from CR 6 co the Luce Linc T'rall f CR 6 liom Dinkirk Lauc to (hc city limili Vicksburg Lone from CR 6 to Gleason I,nkV Road 2. Two Well trmis Rockford Road from Northwest Rlvd. to Laneasrer Lane (south side) zacltnry Lane, various segntenlS (east side) Plass Lake Road from Norwood Lnnc to Nathan Lanc (soul) side) CR 47 front 13:us Lake Road Io Mud Lake Park (north side) Northwest Boulevard, various sagntcnts (west side) Vicksburg Lane from Schmidl Like Road to Rockford Road (cast side) Fernbrook Line, various srgmcnls (cast side) CR lot from Mcdinu Road to CR 24 and from 25'x' Ave to CR G (west side) CR G from Vickshurk Limo to Parkers Lake Murk (south side) New Corridors Rural Greenway 4, Priority rating criteria Consimcney will) Ira/ Plan Safuly ITso of trail: Iransporlatiolt or rcercatinil Usigc volume Geso of implanenlalion Cost Others... 5. Rural Creotrwey (curial slap of arra) Ch:tractorlcross-Scelion Romdconncclions G. Roadway Crossings Dirficult intersections (sce analysis rnap) Vickhurg and I'll 55 CR 24 and TH 55 CR 101 and 7'H 55 Niagara I,ane/Plymotuh Blvd, and TH 55 Fernbrook Lane and TH 55 Rockford Road and 1.494 South Shom Drive and I'll 55 Rockford Road and Northwest Blvd, CR 10 I and CR G G[euson Lake Road and I-494 Rockford Road and ITS 1G9 Bass T,akc Road and US 169 Solulions Signal attentions 1[lCre:1Se Paloslrian greun lime Pedestrian jump signal Inierseclion reconstruction SaIirmedian's Disallow true righl lurnc Grade separation 05/17/99 3 - Grade Separati(n: ovcrpasscs unit underpasses OCC existing trail system map) F,xisting Luce Line Trail at 1-491 13ast Medicine Lake/Golden Valley Trail at US 169 Plymouth Cieck'1'rail at Rockford Road Plymoulh Crcek Trtil at 37°' Ave. N. Parkcis Laku Park and Playlield at CR 6 Schmidt lake Road at 1-494 CR 47 it I-494 Proposed Luce Line'Fmil ni Th 55 f Rockford Raul at 1-494 Possible upgrndes and now crossings Plymouth Crcek at Fcrnbrook Lane Plymouth Creck al 1.49$ Vicksburg Lane at T1155 Schmidt Lake Road at 1-494 7. Snowmohilc" RUTS Existing 7Ynils (map of existing trails) Policy 8. Comnirms and hlscu.cc1011 9. Noxt Steps 05/17/99 rpy)cMay11, 1999 ) PLYMOUTR Joe Kempf 3125 Urbandale Lane Plymouth, MN 55447 Dear Joe: Mayor Tierney has forwarded your letter to me regarding skateboard parks in Plymouth. The City Council has been very supportive of skateboard parks in Plymouth. They went out of their way last year to grant permission, and a number of variances, so a private skateboard park could open in Plymouth. Unfortunately, in recent weeks it has been announced that they were unable to make it financially and had to close their doors. This sudden closing caught everyone off guard. Last year, the City Council also authorized the parks department to install a concrete parking area behind the ice center which could be used some day for an inline and skateboard park. It is unfortunate with this short notice that the City does not have an opportunity to adequately study and plan for an alternative skateboard facility. However, I can tell you that the Mayor and other members of the Council have been working with various groups and individuals to see if there is a quick alternative that could be developed within the community this summer. In the long run, I can assure you that the city staff, Park and Recreation Advisory Commission and the Council will continue to look at this issue and do what we can to find a proper solution. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Copies of your letter are being sent to both the City Council and the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission. Sincerely, Eric J. Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: City Council P,12AC PLYMOUTH A Beautiful Tface 7o Give 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 • TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 www.d.plymouth.mn.us May 11, 1999 Ob OF PLYMOUTR Brian Anderson 14425 47th Ave N Plymouth, MN 55446 Dear Brian: Mayor Tierney has forwarded your letter to me regarding skateboard parks in Plymouth. The City Council has been very supportive of skateboard parks in Plymouth. They went out of their way last year to grant permission, and a number of variances, so a private skateboard park could open in Plymouth. Unfortunately, in recent weeks it has been announced that they were unable to make it financially and had to close their doors. This sudden closing caught everyone off guard. Last year, the City Council also authorized the parks department to install a concrete parking area behind the ice center which could be used some day for an inline and skateboard park. It is unfortunate with this short notice that the City does not have an opportunity to adequately study and plan for an alternative skateboard facility. However, I can tell you that the Mayor and other members of the Council have been working with various groups and individuals to see if there is a quick alternative that could be developed within the community this summer. In the long run, I can assure you that the city staff, Park and Recreation Advisory Commission and the Council will continue to look at this issue and do what we can to find a proper solution. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Copies of your letter are being sent to both the City Council and the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission. Sincerely, 3&' Eric J. Blank, Director Parks and Recreation EB/np cc: City Council FRAC PLYMOUTH ABeautifu(P(ace7o Live 3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD • PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447-1482 • TELEPHONE (612) 509-5000 d„ mK www.ci.plymouth.mn.us