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Home My WebLink AboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 11-09-1995Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission November 9, 1995, 7 p.m. AGENDA 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Visitor Presentations a. Athletic Associations b. Staff c. Others 4. Report on Past Council Action a. Approved cost estimate for facilities report b. C. d. 5. Unfinished Business a. Private swimming pool/Wayzata School Dist. pool study referred from Council update b. West Medicine Lake Park update c. Open spaces update d. Playfield/highschool update - review budget as part of new CIP e. Study of sports facilities - adopt report f. 1996-2000 CIP update g. Senior citizen needs analysis update 6. New Business a. Discuss golf course ideas b. C. d. 7. Commission Presentation 8. Staff Communication 9. Adjourn Next regular meeting - December 14 Minutes of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting October 12, 1995 Page 33 Present: Chair Anderson, Commissioners Bildsoe, Fiemann, Priebe, Wahl and Willegalle; staff Bisek, Blank and Pederson Absent: Commissioner Johnson 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Anderson called the October meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. in the Bass Lake Room located on the lower level. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion was made by Commissioner Priebe and seconded by Commissioner Wahl to approve the minutes of the September meeting. The motion carried with all ayes. 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. Athletic Associations. None were present. b. Staff. Mary discussed the recent special events that took place in September. Attendance and exhibitors were both up at the Art Fair, while attendance at the History Fest was down a little. Future special events include the Goblin Walk at Oakwood Park on Saturday, October 14, and Old Fashioned Christmas on Sunday, December 10. c. Others. There were no other visitors. 4. PAST COUNCIL ACTION a. Approved purchase of Olson property. This is the parcel next to the new high school. The closing was October 11. b. Approved name Elm Creek Playfield. Council approved the name Elm Creek for the ninth playfield. c. Approved Mighty Ducks ice arena grant. Council approved the submittal of the ice arena grant. The City is requesting funding for two sheets of ice. d. Referred study of senior citizen needs. The seniors recently made a presentation to the Council requesting that the City begin some sort of study on senior citizen PRAC Minutes/October 1995 Page 34 needs in Plymouth. The Council has since referred this to the Park Commission and Youth Sports Committee. 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS a. Private swimming pool update/Wayzata School District pool study referred from Council. This issue has been referred to the Youth Sports Task Force, staff and the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission. Mayor Tierney has also sent a letter to the School District acknowledging that the City is interested in studying the issue of a jointly operated swimming facility. b. West Medicine Lake Park update. Bids will be opened on October 13 for phase 1, which includes the road project and two parking lots. All permits are now in, and the City did recently approve the off-site wetland mitigation. c. Open spaces update. The parcel located in southwest Plymouth has been split into two pieces, as a tax break for the owner; the northwest site near the high school was closed on October 11, and the Mission property site near French Park is being paid off at $25,000 per year for four years. Negotiations are still in progress on the southeast site near the intersection of County Road 73 and I-394. An offer has been made but not accepted at this time. d. Playfield/high school update. The final cost estimate is being worked on. Musco Lighting has made a cost estimate on lighting the fields, etc. The Girls Softball Association had requested a 200 foot permanent fence, but they have now conceded to portable fencing. Grading of the NURP pond has begun and from there, grading will begin on the playfield portion. The City discovered that the owners of Elm Creek Golf Course have been encroaching on this property for some time and using it as a dumping grounds. They've also been taking dirt from the site. They've been given until October 13 to restore the site to its original condition. e. Study of youth sports facilities --review report. Director Blank explained that the report will be mailed to all the athletic associations that serve Plymouth youth, as well as to other groups and agencies that appeared before the task force and made presentations. They will be asked to make comments on the report and to attend a meeting on Monday, October 23, to further discuss the report. After additional fine tuning, the report will be back on the November 9 PRAC agenda for a recommendation to the City Council. Director Blank explained the nine major issues identified by the task force in the report: the projected growth of all youth activities as the City continues to grow; the extreme shortage of indoor ice time for ice hockey and figure skating; the continued demand for indoor gym PRAC Minutes/October 1995 Page 35 space for youth basketball, soccer and adult volleyball and basketball; lack of adequate facilities for girls' fast pitch softball; a large demand for fields to accommodate children beteween the ages of 5 and 11; lack of available pool time for competitive swimming at the club and high school level; the growth of indoor soccer; developing fair and equitable fee schedules for the use of City facilities; developing appropriate maintenance of school district facilities such as baseball and softball fields. There was some discussion then about the proposed field house at the new high school and why that particular location? Director Blank explained that it was because of the available space and ample parking. He also stated that the cost would be shared by the School District and the City. The field house could be used for things such as indoor soccer, track, golf, archery, flea markets, etc. Commissioner Bildsoe asked Director Blank if the City's plan is to have its available fields used to the maximum, with more demand than supply, or the other way around? Director Blank responded that he believes it is important to have a reserve available to meet future needs, or for growth in other areas. Commissioner Wahl asked about available land at the workhouse site and if any plans had been discussed with the County regarding a golf course there. Director Blank said the City did get into a cooperative program with the County this past summer on community gardens and that we may consider a jointly run greenhouse/nursery next year. There is also a possibility that a driving range could be built on workhouse property sometime in the future. Commissioner Fiemann asked why the issue of golf was not addressed in the sports facilities report? Director Blank said that golf would be addressed in the future, but that right now, staff needed to concentrate on the youth sports facilities as directed by the Council. Director Blank indicated that the youth sports task force wants a consultant to verify the costs for building the facilities that are outlined in the report to make sure they are accurate. In order to accomplish this, a recommendation to the Council would be necessary. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER FIEMANN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BILDSOE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO COST ESTIMATES ON THE FACILITIES PROPOSED IN THE YOUTH SPORTS FACILITIES REPORT. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. Commissioner Priebe suggested that a statement be added to the report saying that certain facilities, such as golf, have not been included in the report. Director Blank said that he would mention this to the task force but that it might be more appropriate for PRAC to add it when they make their recommendation in November. PRAC Minutes/October 1995 Page 36 f. 1996-2000 CIP update. Director Blank explained that he had no new information on the CIP at this time. 6. NEW BUSINESS a. Senior citizen needs analysis. Director Blank explained that representatives from the Plymouth Seniors Club made a presentation to the City Council recently asking that the City begin looking into the needs of Plymouth seniors. The Council appointed the Mayor and Councilmembers Wold and Lymangood to serve on a subcommittee to study this issue. Director Blank asked if any PRAC members would be willing to serve on this subcommittee, too. Commissioners Anderson and Priebe offered their services. 7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION A request was made by Commissioner Priebe to notify commissioners whenever there is a meeting at the City Center that might be of interest to them, or where their presence might be helpful. 8. STAFF COMMUNICATION Director Blank announced that the City received a $40,000 grant from the Outdoor Recreation Grant Program to be used on the West Medicine Lake Park project. He also stated that the trails approved for construction this year are now under construction. He explained that the in-line hockey rink surface has been painted a tan color, so that it will be more reflective, which will help when it comes time to flood it for the ice hockey season. 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 8:52 p.m. Report on Volunteers/Park and Recreation Volunteer Positions Teens age 14 & older Aides for Preschool Specials Assistants for PITS Program Aides for special needs youngsters Junior counselors for Discovery Day Camp Helpers with summer ball programs Puppet wagon assistants Magician at Preschool Special Equipment check-in helper Soccer aides Helpers with Goblin Walk Special Events Fire & Ice Outdoor Winter Festival Fall Arts Festival History Fest Goblin Walk Old Fashioned Christmas Other People to help with special P&R mailings Swim registration procedures Job exchange coordinator/Senior program Newsletter editor/Senior program Clerical aide for senior coordinator Drama coach for senior/Story Time Theater Interpreters Video production Advertise for coaches Number of Park & Rec staff supervisors of volunteers: Total number of volunteers: 253 Total number of hours volunteered: 1143 PRACreport/8M95 e.. -BCT -10-1995 15:01 WAYZATA PRINCIPALS OFFICE 612 476 3208 P.02 pct. 17 FRI 74M October 10, 1995 2020 Pine bland Road Minnetonia, MN 55305 Mr. John Mucbiinsld, Athletic Director Wayzata High School 305 Vicksburg Lane Plymouth, MN 55447 Dear John, Thank you for agreeing to meet with us this morning. As per our telephone conversation, the items we agreed to discuss firll under these four general topics: 1 Physical Facilities II Coaches III Equipment IV Budget & Planing Today, under Physical Facilities we would like to specifically address the following items: 1) The number of fields that are going to be reserved for high school use during the school season. 2) A25 foot depthfw:_1>ap 3) The recommended ASA smaller infield for fast pitch. 4) Bull peas (2) 5) Batting cubicles and cage 6) Sembo"i 7) Electricity atd,tiall macLduea dnrio8 pftk 8) Foul ball netting *"f the bscla"I' 8 foot fences to tedta9) pro pectrdors ung 1st'iirid 3rd hue lines? 10) FencW dug outs 11) Permanent storage located at the fields 12) Fields to be dedicated for girls during the season, 13) Where are you planning to build additional baseball fields for the boys? At a future meeting, we would like to hear how you job search is progressing for coaches. We are deeply concerned that Wayzata will recruit and hire coaches that will continue to improve the skills and talent of the athletes within the program. We are presently compiling an equipment list that has been recommended by several collegiate couches, as per your request. FROM :MA MORTENSON 612 476 2079 COST ANALYSIS FOR ELM CREEK PLAYFIELD CITY OF PLYMOUTH TENTATIVE APPROVAL IT pESCRIPTION 3 4 5 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 BASE EARTHWORK C610 IRRIGATION -SOFTBALL (4) IRRIGATION -SOCCER (5) SOFTBALL BACKSTOP AWA00) SOFTBALL FENCING SOFTBALL BENCHES SOFTBALL LIGHTING SOFTBALL BUILDING BITUMINOUS WALKWAY 0 PKG/BUS BITUMINOUS WALKWAY (9 SOFTBALL SOCCER GOALS TRASH RECEPTACLES BIKE RACKS SCOREBOARDS SIGNAGE SOD SUBTOTAL C.M. SUPERVISORY LABOR 2.99'0 C -M. GENERAL CONDITIONS .31/b OWNER GENERAL CONDITIONS 2.3% SUBTOTAL C,M. FEES 2.25% DESIGN FEES 5.3% GRAND TOTAL 1995,10-2S rOST 625,899 42,544 51,583 16,000 51,334 6,400 248,218 150,000 37,677 15,000 15,000 5,000 1,000 10,000 5,000 10,000 1,300,455 37,713 3,901 29,910 1,371,980 30,870 72,715 1,475,05 10/25195 OUTSTANDING OPTIONS ST SOCCER FIELD FENCING 5.483- TRE IPTION SOCCER FIELD LIGHTING 129,104 y - OUTDOOR HOCKEY RINK 40,000 - 4MULTI-PURPOSE/MAINTENANCE BLDG 300,000- 5 HOCKEY LIGHTING 19,303- 3) BASKETBALL COURT -COMPLETE 20,000- 7 BASKETBALL COURT -LIGHTING 19,000 BITUMINOUS WALKWAY 0 SOCCER 7,000 9 CHILDRENS' PLAYGROUND 85,000 10 VARSITY BASEBALL LIGHTING 80,000 11 TENNIS COURT LIGHTING$38,443 12 REMOTE CONTROL FOR IRR. & LIGHTING 44,000 - SUBTOTAL 787,333 C.M. SUPERVISORY LABOR 2.9% 22,833 C.M. GENERAL CONDITIONS .3% 2,362 OWNER GENERAL CONDITIONS 2.3% 18,109 SUBTOTAL 830,636 C.M. FEES 2.25% 16,889 DESIGN FEES 5.3% 44,024 GRAND TOTAL 899,349 MORTFNSON CITYOPALS 13:21 #547 P.02/02 DATE: October 27, 1995 TO: City Council and Youth Sports Task Force FROM: Eric J. Blank, Director, Parks and Recreation SUBJECT: FACILITY TOUR We have tentatively scheduled a facility tour for the Park Commission on Saturday, November 18, from 8 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. On the tour, we will visit ice arenas, swimming pools and senior centers, etc. I believe it is imperative that as many members of the Council and Youth Sports Task Force as possible also accompany the Park Commission on this tour. I would appreciate it if you could call my secretary, Nancy, at 509-5210, and let her know if you would be available on this date. EB/np cc: City Manager DATE: November 7, 1995 TO: PRAC FROM: Eric J. Blank, Director, Parks and Recreation SUBJECT: Recreational Sports Facility Report Attached for your review is the final version of the Recreational Sports Facility Report. Since you last reviewed this at your October meeting, the task force held a public meeting to receive comments from all of the interested athletic associations. The general consensus of the people attending the meeting was that the report was very thorough and well documented the needs for future development of facilities. Minor corrections and additions were made to the report based on comments either from task force members or those representing athletic associations. Staff is recommending that the Park Commission at this time adopt this report and send it forward to the City Council for their review and further direction. Other possible actions the Commission has would be to table the report at this time, or adopt the report and send it forward with additional comments outlining specific concerns and recommendations you would like to add to the report. The City Manager is tentatively scheduling a work session to review the report with the City Council on Monday, November 27. EB/np City Of Plymouth RECREATIONAL SPORTS FACILITY REPORT Report submitted to City Council, November, 1995 DEDICATION The task force wishes to express its appreciation and dedication in this report to the residents of Plymouth and to the volunteer youth athletic association leaders who have unselfishly contributed so much over the past to the youth of Plymouth and Plymouth Park and Recreation programs and facilities. 3- INTRODUCTION In January, 1995, the Mayor and Council appointed a special sub -committee to review the future recreational sports facility needs for the City of Plymouth. The charge of this task force was to analyze the current and projected future growth of recreational sports within the City of Plymouth. In order to accomplish this, the task force needed to take a look at the current status of the projected future growth of the community and determine whether the current comprehensive plans of the City as it relates to recreational facilities, would meet the future demands as we can define them at this time. The task force was composed of Mayor Tierney, Councilmembers Lymangood and Wold; Park Commissioners Anderson, Wahl, Willegalle; Robbinsdale Community Education Director Carroll Vomhof; and Wayzata Community Education Director Jim Brandl. The first meeting of the task force was held on Wednesday, March 22. Prior to this meeting, Rick Busch, of the Park and Recreation Department had sent out questionnaires to all of the City's athletic associations requesting information and data with regard to their current program offerings. This information was put into booklet form and made available to the task force for review at the first meeting. The review and study of this data, along with the review of the current facilities in the community laid the base work necessary for the task force work. The next two meetings were held in an effort to interview 14 different youth serving athletic associations. Testimony at these meetings was received from Plymouth -Wayzata Youth Baseball, Plymouth - Wayzata Youth Softball, Plymouth -Wayzata Boys Basketball, Plymouth -Wayzata Girls Basketball, Wayzata Football, Plymouth -Wayzata Hockey, Wayzata Traveling Soccer, Plymouth Soccer Association, New Hope -Plymouth Baseball, New Hope -Plymouth Soccer, New Hope -Plymouth Basketball, New Hope -Plymouth Hockey, New Hope - Plymouth Fall Soccer, and Classic Lake Aquatics. Each association -was given approximately 45 minutes to address the committee with regards to the future needs of their association. Most of the associations also provided written statistics and graphs to further highlight the issues important to them. Much of the information presented by the Athletic Associations is highlighted in this report's appendix. 5- MAJOR ISSUES During the review and discussion with the 14 different athletic associations, a number of issues were covered. Listed below is a condensed version of some of the larger, more global issues reviewed by the committee. The opening paragraph outlines the issue as reported by the various athletic associations. Because many of the associations have the same issue, they are grouped together in terms of their content. Under the response section, we have listed the alternative approaches the City and school districts could take with regard to addressing each issue. 1. The most consistent issue is the projected growth of all youth activities as the City of Plymouth continues to grow. The common trend is that all of the existing indoor and outdoor facilities are generally, with few exceptions, maximized for use at this time. The detailed study of future growth trends and their effect on the need for additional facilities is a major issue that needs to be under constant review each year. Our study indicates that the development of small baseball fields for children ages five to 11 and girls' fast pitch softball will be two of our greatest growth areas. Response Positive planning approaches the City can take on this issue are outlined below: a. The construction of the Elm Creek Playfield at the new Wayzata high school with the addition of softball, baseball, soccer, football, hockey, basketball and volleyball facilities will help in all areas. b. The School District and/or the City should redevelop the outdoor facilities at the old Wayzata high school. This site has the potential for adding additional baseball facilities, softball facilities, and soccer facilities. If a new stadium is built at the new high school, the usage of the old stadium needs to be re- examined. c. The development and usage of Greenwood Elementary School needs to be thoroughly reviewed. There is one home located immediately northwest of the school. It is recommended that the home and property be acquired by the school district. Additional parking and additional facilities for baseball/softball and soccer could be added at this location. d. The acquisition and development of the Ess property at 494 and Schmidt Lake Road could add valuable resources to the community. As of the writing of this report, the Council has authorized the acquisition of the property. The estimated cost for developing four small softball/baseball fields is $800,000. 7- appear that by adding gyms to at least two different school facilities we might get the most bang for our dollars throughout the community. The addition of a gym at Armstrong High School and at a Wayzata school facility within the next one to three years would appear to be most appropriate. These gyms could thus be used during the school day by the school district and in the evening and on weekends by the public. A third gym facility, not associated with a school, would provide gym space for activities that normally would take place during the school year or school day. This facility could be used by senior citizens, mothers, tots, and second and third shift employees who are available only during the day for recreational activities. 4. There is an identifiable need for girls' fast pitch softball fields throughout the community, and on the east side, the issue revolves around Plymouth residents playing in Golden Valley, without any home facilities available. Response There are a number of options in this area to be reviewed. When the adult softball program moves from Zachary Park to Elm Creek Playfield, space should be made available at Zachary Park for our fast pitch girls currently playing in the Golden Valley Fast Pitch Softball program. It's possible that at the Elm Creek Playfield, one of the adult softball fields could be downsized, either with permanent or temporary fencing, for the Varsity needs. The City should also look at acquiring property in the southwest corner of the Elm Creek Playfield from Elm Creek Golf Course for the development of future fast pitch facilities at this location if this property is ever for sale. The development of the Ess property and the tenth playfield should also be done in a design to accommodate the needs for girls' fast pitch softball. 5. The availability of competitive swimming time is at a shortage throughout the entire western Hennepin County area. The issue is, can any one individual community bear the burden of developing and operating a competitive swimming facility? There is also an absence of modern leisure pool facilities in this area. Response It would appear that no one agency is in a position to develop and operate a competitive swimming facility. A joint venture, however, with the Wayzata School District and/or the Robbinsdale School District and/or private swim clubs would make this facility a more reasonable undertaking. Currently, all of the pools within Plymouth are located near our community perimeter at Wayzata West Junior High and at Wayzata East Junior High, on the southern border, and at Plymouth Middle School on the eastern border. A swimming facility located north of Highway 55 and west of 494 would serve a broader spectrum of our population. The city's needs tend to be recreational in nature, while the School District's needs 0 Districts. In recent years, budgetary constraints, especially in the Wayzata District, have made it extremely difficult for the School District to provide a high level of maintenance to the facilities during the summer months. Response Youth athletic associations, school districts and the city should cooperatively meet and develop an operational plan to ensure the highest quality of maintenance available on all facilities. School districts need to pay more attention to the long- term operation of facilities when a new facility is brought on line. They need to make sure that the operating dollars are available to maintain such facilities. 11- Baseball/Softball If we assume the adult softball program will move from four lighted fields at Zachary Playfield to 4 lighted fields at Elm Creek Playfield, that opens the four at Zachary to youth baseball/softball. The newly acquired ESS property could add four more fields. New fields could also come at the old Wayzata High School and the tenth playfield. Our 1995 statistics include fields at Wayzata district elementary schools that could see more usage with some needed renovation. This group includes Kimberly Lane, Plymouth Creek, Sunset, and Greenwood. Two new 90 foot fields are planned for Elm Creek Playfield. Others could be added at the tenth playfield or by enlarging an existing field at Zachary Playfield. There are four other areas to watch for growth that could put us beyond projected need; girls softball in east Plymouth, boys softball throughout Plymouth, adult baseball, and evening T- Ball/Instructional Baseball & Softball programs. Soccer Six new fields are scheduled for Elm Creek Playfield. Other expansion could occur at the old Wayzata High School and the tenth playfield site. Soccer is a fast-growing sport that attracts both boys and girls of all ages fairly evenly. The anticipated growth in travel teams may be reflected in slightly reduced growth in house league teams. Adult soccer could grow from a handful of independent teams today in state-run leagues to large city -run house leagues (similar to our adult softball program). Some fall field expansion can occur on existing facilities by putting fields in the outfields of fenced softball/baseball fields. Another sport that could be sharing these fields in the future is rugby. Football Football's needs for an additional field or two may be due by next fall. We may have to switch fields that were traditionally fall soccer fields to football to "get by" until the Elm Creek Playfield site is ready. Other expansion could occur at the old Wayzata High School and the tenth playfield sites. Basketball Additional gym space will have to come at the new Wayzata High School, expansion at Armstrong High School, more usage at old Wayzata High School, and/or construction of a city -run gym. Basketball should continue to grow along with the other winter gym tenants, indoor soccer. Soccer could eventually be accommodated in a field house, possibly at the new Wayzata High School. Another sport that could emerge is boy's volleyball. If space becomes available, there's already interest in the community. 13- TIME LINE OF DEVELOPMENT Based on the Committee's review of existing needs and future needs, we have developed a time line for phasing of developments. The facilities that are scheduled for one to two years in timing are based on the idea that there is an existing shortage at this time for the existing number of participants. For this reason the City should take positive steps as quickly as possible to bring facilities up to meet the needs of current users. Facilities proposed for the two to three year window of opportunity are based on taking care of some existing needs such as providing practice time, developing facilities at relatively low costs such as renovating existing facilities, and finally, developing facilities with multi-purpose usage in mind. Facilities scheduled for the three to five year window are specifically intended to meet growth of participation in both indoor and outdoor sports and to acquire property in northwest Plymouth before prices skyrocket. The development of the 10th playfield in the five to 10 year window should be phased in with the development of the property outside the MUSA area of Plymouth. The new Elm Creek Playfield/Wayzata High School will open in the fall of 1997. This will add a large gymnasium, two baseball fields, four softball fields, ten tennis courts, five soccer fields, three outdoor basketball courts and an outdoor hockey rink. Immediate needs (1-2 years) 2) ice rinks 1) gym (excluding new Wayzata High School 2) pools (one competition, one recreational at central location) Short term needs (2-3 years) redevelop old Wayzata High School sports fields buy land/redevelop Greenwood School sports fields build multi-purpose field house Intermediate needs (3-5 years) develop Ess property (494 & Schmidt Lake Road) buy land for 10th playfield (Co. Rd. 47 & Vicksburg Lane) build gym independent of any school Long term needs (5-10 years) develop 10th playfield 15- OUTLINE OF ANTICIPATED FACILITIES Two Sheets of Ice It is anticipated that one sheet of ice will be an Olympic sheet with seating for approximately 800 spectators. This amount of seating will meet the needs for most high school hockey needs. The design of the second sheet of ice could be a practice rink of standard dimensions with seating for approximately 200. Gymnasium It is anticipated that the gymnasium will be added either to facilities in downtown Plymouth or on to Armstrong Senior High School or Plymouth Middle School. The gym would consist of two basketball courts and an aerobics fitness room. This could provide Armstrong High School with five gym stations and Wayzata Senior High School with six gym stations. Swimming Pool Proposal This would be. a combination of a 25 or 50 meter competitive pool and an indoor leisure pool. Planning for outdoor pool facilities should be taken into consideration at the time of design. Redevelopment of the Old Wayzata High School and Greenwood Elementary This would possibly include such things as fast pitch softball fields, baseball fields, and soccer fields. If a new stadium is built at the new Wayzata High School, a plan for the future usage of the old stadium should also be developed. The ice arena at the old Wayzata High School site would be considered primarily a practice facility with games moving to the new City -owned ice arena. The upgrade of Greenwood Elementary School would include the acquisition of one single family home on adjoining property and the addition of parking and additional baseball, softball and soccer fields. In 1996, the City will be joining with the School District on the redevelopment of the playground portion and trails at Greenwood Elementary. Development of a Field House This would be a multi-purpose facility for indoor soccer, track, football, baseball, golf, etc. It is not anticipated to be a spectator facility, but rather a practice/training center. Development of the Ess Property This would bring on line four, 200 foot baseball/fast pitch softball fields. The 800,000 cost estimate does not include lighting any of those facilities. 5VA COST ESTIMATE Facility Cost Est. city School Dist.* Other** Total Build two sheets of ice 4,500,000 3,600,000 350,000 550,000 4,500,000 Build 3 gyms 3,000 000 2,600,000 400,000 3,000,000 50 meter pool and leisure pool 5,000,000 1,500,000 1,500,000 2,000,000 5,000,000 Redevelop old Wayzata high school 150,000 150,000 150,000 Buyland/redevelop Greenwood School 350,000 200,000 150,000 350,000 Field house 2000000 1,800,000 200,000 2,0007000 Develop Ess property 800,000 800,000 800,000 Buy land for 10th playfield (50 ac) 17,000/acre Develop 10th playfld. 850,000 2,500,000 1 850,000 2,5002000 850,000 2500000 Total 19,150,000 1 13,850,000 2,750,000 2,550,000 19,150,000 Wayzata and/or Robbinsdale School District Represents grants, associations, and other cities. 19_ Plymouth Outdoor Facility Users number of teams) Plymouth/Wayzata Baseball Assn. Plymouth/Wayzata Softball Assn. Wayzata Soccer Club Plymouth/Wayzata Football Assn. Plymouth Soccer Association Plym. Park & Rec 4 -Man Football Plym. Park & Rec Summer Softball Plym. Park & Rec Fall Softball Plymouth Park & Rec Fall Soccer Plymouth Park & Recreation K -Bal I/T-Bal l/Baseball/Softball NHPAA Baseball * NHPAA Fall Soccer NHPAA wings Summer Soccer NHPAA Football 1991 1992 1993 1994 1925 76 86 105 111 118 32 33 37 40 32 24 25 27 28 32 18 19 19 20 21 73 69 71 88 112 28 23 16 11 16 193 195 191 185 167 64 79 80 73 71 50 53 60 77 91 41 58 59 69 82 No. of Teams of Fields per Field Lighted 1995 1995 fields 20 5.9 4 8 4.0 2 6 5.3 3 4 5.3 1 16** 7.0 4 2 8.0 2 4.5 37.1 4.5 4.5 15.8 4.5 26** 3.5 8 14 5.8 n.a. Yearly numbers represent total combined New Hope and Plymouth enrollment. The % Plymouth column is the percentage of the participants which live in Plymouth, and the Plymouth Teams column is what this translates into all -Plymouth teams. The Teams per Field denotes the Plymouth portion on Plymouth fields. Total # of fields includes many half and quarter size fields for ages 10 & under; actual number of teams per full size field would be much higher. Na 1995 No. of Teams of 1995% Plymouth Fields per Field Lighte 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 Plymouth Teams 1995 1995 Fields 51 57 59 62 60 56% 34 8.5 4.0 5.5 56 56 55 53 51 60% 30 8 3.8 3 20 22 30 34 39 56% 22 6 3.7 4 16 14 17 20 21 33% 7 1 7.0 1 Yearly numbers represent total combined New Hope and Plymouth enrollment. The % Plymouth column is the percentage of the participants which live in Plymouth, and the Plymouth Teams column is what this translates into all -Plymouth teams. The Teams per Field denotes the Plymouth portion on Plymouth fields. Total # of fields includes many half and quarter size fields for ages 10 & under; actual number of teams per full size field would be much higher. Na NHPAA Hockey This association has separate Cooper and Armstrong youth programs. Most of the Armstrong players are Plymouth residents. Last year, that portion made up about 15 teams in East Plymouth. The New Hope ice arena has been the main provider of ice for NHPAA hockey for over 20 years. It cannot support the needs of the youth association and Cooper and Armstrong High School programs. Youth teams travel to Parade, Blake, Breck, Columbia, Augsburg, and Osseo arenas in an effort to fill ice needs. They also use about 20 hours per week of outdoor ice in Plymouth. They are losing time at most of these arenas because the arenas are all experiencing growth and have to accommodate their primary tenants. Growth in the boys program and the introduction of a girls program makes new local ice time mandatory for continuation of NHPAA hockey as it now exists. Even if plans go through for an additional rink at New Hope Arena, NHPAA would still need as much ice time as possible in a new City of Plymouth rink. NHPAA Basketball While the total enrollment in NHPAA has remained steady, the demand for large gyms (junior and senior high) has increased due to an increase in the number of travel teams. Plymouth has made available twice as much large gym space for the coming season at the expense of canceling some adult leagues. We also turn over all available gym hours at Pilgrim Lane and Zachary Lane Elementary gyms. Overall, we will allocate 938 hours for NHPAA use, up from 823 last year (a 14 % increase). We still contribute only 31 % of the total NHPAA hours, largely because we only have seven District 281 basketball courts in Plymouth, compared to 13 in New Hope. As soon as other gyms become available at the new Wayzata High School or elsewhere in Plymouth, we will further cut back adult programs at Armstrong High School and Plymouth Middle School in favor of youth programs. 5 -Year Team Totals for Boys & Girls Grades 3 - 9: 1990/91 39 1991/92 49 1992/93 56 1993/94 59 1994/95 55 (62% Plymouth residents translates to 34 all -Plymouth teams) 23- Report on Monday - Friday Evening Gym Usage at District 281 Gyms in Plymouth Monday, October 30, 1995 through Friday, March 29, 1996 Total Hours Total Total Hours Permitted to Permitted Permitted to Plymouth Hours NHPAA % Adult Sports Pilgrim Lane Elementary 300 300 100% 0 0% Zachary Lane Elementary 300 300 100% 0 0% Plymouth Middle A 356 124 35% 232 65% Plymouth Middle B 356 124 35% 232 65% Armstrong A 63 30 48% 33 52% Armstrong 63 30 48% 33 52% Armstrong C 63 30 48% 33 52% Totals 1,501 938 62% 563 38% NOTE: NHPAA Basketball also uses 440 Saturday hours at Plymouth Middle School which are not factored in this report. General Usaee: 6-10:00 p.m. Zachary Lane Elementary Pilgrim Lane Elementary NHPAA Basketball: M -F Plymouth Middle School NHPAA Basketball: T/Th All; M/W/F 11/27-12/22 Plymouth Park & Recreation: M/W/F (except 11/27-12/22) Armstrong High School NHPAA Basketball: M/W 8-10:00, 10/30-12/20 Plymouth Park & Recreation W 7:30-10:30 1/10-3/27 Users: Based on 1994/95 registration NHPAA Basketball 34 Plymouth teams (22 house league in elementary gyms; 12 travel in junior & senior high gyms) Plymouth Park & Recreation 78 teams (32 3 -Man Basketball; 18 5 -Man Basketball; 28 Volleyball) Hours/Team: NHPAA 600 elementary gym hours - 22 teams = 27 hours/team 338 secondary gym hours = 12 teams = 28 hours/team Plymouth Park & Recreation 563 secondary gym hours = 67* teams = 9 hours/team count each 3 -Man Basketball team as 1/2 25- Plymouth/Wayzata Baseball Association This group has traditionally operated at maximum efficiency when it comes to field usage. They play double-headers on unlighted fields, where they keep the games moving by using pitching machines. Their fields are usually scheduled six days per week. At 118 teams, they are our largest association. Their ratio of six teams per field is also one of our highest. The pitching machines need electrical wiring to the pitching mounds. They are currently maxed out in availability of those kinds of fields. They are concerned about other associations in Plymouth expanding into space they normally use. Construction of batting cages this fall will help with field shortages, but they will probably need one to two more 60-75 foot base length fields next summer. Possible expansion could occur at Greenwood Elementary or Plymouth Creek Playfield (field #2). Large (90 foot base length) field expansion may be able to wait until the new Wayzata High School fields are built. Plymouth/Wayzata Softball Association After years of taking a back seat to baseball in terms of facility usage, Plymouth/Wayzata Softball seems to have caught up. They use some of our better fields and seem to have room for expansion under current allocation. They still have electrical needs both for on -field and batting cage pitching machines. They are concerned about lack of varsity/tournament type fields, either for the new Wayzata High School or other sites. They are looking for permanent outfield fencing at 200 feet. A possible site for a batting cage is the Oakwood Hockey rink. Plymouth/Wayzata Football Association For years, this program has operated using two primary facilities: Oakwood Playfield (B) and Wayzata West Jr. High (3 fields). By next fall, they will probably need an additional field either to reduce the wear on Oakwood B, to replace it for a year, or as a second field there. Possible expansion could occur in the outfield of Oakwood #2 & #6 or at Plymouth Creek Playfield. This group actually plays less than their fair share of games in Plymouth. They have over 70%o Plymouth residents, but play less than half their games and practices in Plymouth. They are now interested in moving more north in the school district. 27- Plymouth/Wayzata Youth Basketball Associations 1994-95 Wayzata District Gym Usage Plymouth/Wayzata Boys Basketball Assoc. Plymouth/Wayzata Girls Basketball Assoc. Total District 284 Youth Basketball Teams Plymouth Park & Recreation Men's Basketball Plymouth Park & Recreation Co-Rec Volleyball Total adult teams playing in District 284 Gym Allocation 49 teams: 36 house 13 travel 30 teams: 24 house 6 travel 79 teams: 60 house 19 travel 10 teams 14 teams 24 teams Wayzata East Jr. High 2 Plymouth Park & Rec Adult Leagues 8 W Plymouth/Wayzata Basketball 48 M,T,Th,F,Sat Wayzata West Jr. High in Wayzata) 2 Plymoutb/Wayzata Basketball 52 M,T,Th,F,Sat Wayzata Sr. High 3 PI mouth Park & Rec Adult Leagues 3 W PI mou[h/Wayzata Basketball 20 M,T,Th,Sat Oakwood Elementary 1 Plymouth/Wayzata Basketball 12 M,T,Th Birchview Elementary 1* PI mouth/Wa zeta Basketball 20 M,T,Th,Sat Sunset Hills Elementary 1* Plymouth/Wayzata Basketball 12 M,T,Th Greenwood Elementary 1* Plymouth/Wayzata Basketball 8 T,Th Gleason Lake Elementary 1* Plymouth/Wayzata Basketball 20 M,T,Th Kimberly Lane Elementary 1* Pl mouth/Wa zata Basketball 4 M Plymouth Creek Elementary 1* Plymouth/Wayzata Basketball 12 M,T,Th carpeted gym floor NOTE: Hours are counted per court. For example, if Plymouth Park & Rec uses 3 courts at WHS. on Wednesday for 3 hours each, our total is 9 hours. Totals Teams Court Hours/Week Hrs/Team/Week Youth Basketball 79 208 2.63 Adult Volleyball/Basketball 24 11 0.46 In the Wayzata District the youth athletic associations have higher priority than Park & Recreation in getting gym permits. The adults are virtually shut out of space. The Basketball Associations are growing and are getting more involved in travel team programs. A major concern is that six of the seven elementary gyms have carpeted floors, not nearly as conducive to basketball as wood or even tile. Another concern is that growth of indoor soccer is cutting into available gym time. When the new Wayzata High School opens, it should open more time at the old Wayzata High School for youth basketball. The threat from indoor soccer could be solved with a field house at Wayzata High School or a private indoor soccer facility anywhere in the western suburbs. 29- Plymouth Park & Recreation Fall Soccer Like most soccer in Plymouth, this program is booming. It has almost doubled in the last five years, from 50 teams in 1991 to 91 in 1995. Big numbers in the youngest age groups necessitate many small -sized fields with small goals. In 1995, the Under 6 leagues moved out of the hockey rinks onto many previously unused spaces: baseball and softball outfields and District 284 elementary schools. Heavy use of Saturdays for games has helped us accommodate their rapid growth. New fall travel leagues may cause this house league program to level off a bit. Plymouth Park & Recreation Basketball Our adult basketball programs are comprised of: 3 -on -3 half court leagues Separate fall, winter, and spring leagues at Plymouth Middle School on Wednesday nights draw about 90 teams per year. 5 -on -5 unofficiated leagues Fall and summer leagues play Mondays at Plymouth Middle School. Winter league plays at Wayzata East Jr. High south court and Wayzata High School auxiliary court. They total about 35 teams per year. 5 -on -5 officiated leagues Winter league plays Wednesday evenings at Armstrong High School. We annually run at our capacity of 18 teams. That's over 140 teams per year. Each league plays for 10 weeks. The total number of court hours to run these programs is 510 hours or 3.6 hours per team, compared to 27 per team for NHPAA Basketball and Plymouth/Wayzata Basketball. We do this by always having two teams per court for 5 -on -5 leagues and four teams per court for 3 -on -3 leagues, and having each team play one hour per week. We fill our available gym space and would accommodate more teams if we had more room. Of our 1000+ participants, 77% live or work full time in Plymouth and many of the others live in the Robbinsdale and Wayzata school districts. In recent years, we've had to give up adult space to youth basketball. This trend will continue. Building additional gyms at the new Wayzata High School or at Armstrong High School where we have more City control over scheduling is vital to maintaining our adult basketball programs. 31- Plymouth Park & Recreation K -Ball, T -Ball, Baseball, Softball Program We've doubled since 1991, going from 41 to 82 teams. Only twelve of these teams play on week nights and Sunday evenings. The rest play Monday through Friday 9:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.. The inclusion of a 5 -year-old "K -Ball" program in 1992 significantly contributed to our growth. While we still have many fields available for daytime expansion, the options for evening sites are quite limited. We receive countless requests from residents for more 5-8 year old evening ball programs but we are unable to accommodate them due to lack of fields for evening use. We do expect to continue to increase our daytime enrollment by approximately 10% per year. Some evening space should be available in two years when Zachary Playfield softball fields are opened to your play. 33- PlymouthMazata Baseball Assn. 180 160 a 140 ril, r d t r 10DN i L, 1(I I. r4 1 1 a'_rJ k 1 l 11 ax( 3IY fit f2 1 +I'r li t I +,` c 80 IrYxJ^tk{!.};„7 b 4{c.J Fdtij frY ]Y kf,^{j r o -r lirrd r;C4f3k}'jjf fk iNaVr' i,6rIT I'G x' 4{ .;}` t airyEI..F` r. Ir 60 E lilf3ltkk''+{ f ,} ':F 7111 rifi 'tri" 'r,'1:, 43}J,Elilr f 5rltpr }x4 Jr} # fii +'E' 'n aFiry t r. '4 aP ,I{440Tlkf ,7Y tiGr'. # 1*li}rU Cr i#GJ II 'rF p G f. I pru.: I..h Fl +i is+r, n k' fJ 4; nit G' rllm c k+'"f i'I sr'1r 1 f -:CC l''A kr 4kr }rFF 1 El;.;l tl '+:' ".jsl}Ii7.0 ii' n3 G4l20r ' . , x I t n . { I} ct. 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M 25 Is. 0 20 E M 0 10 I, Z 5 S3 1991 19921993S2S2 1995 1996 1997 19 8 S119992000 Year 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 Teams in year 2005 are 30 Teams in year 2005 are 67 NHPAA Wings Summer Soccer 70 xo 60 IMM M 50 . 0- t r= 40 30 0 20E z X 10 S3 19911 2 Teams in year 2005 are 67 Teams in year 2005 are 132 Pymouth Park & Rec. K-Ball/T-Ball/Baseball/Softball RM mum 140 Mul 120 IN 100 0 80 60 40 20 S3 1991 1992 1993S2S21996199719981999S1Year200020012002200320042005 Teams in year 2005 are 132 Teams in year 2005 are 144 Pymouth Park & Rec. Summer Softball 200 180 U 160 140 0 120 E 100 0 so E 60 z 40 20 S3 1991 1992 1993 S2 1997 1998 1999' 2000 2001Year 2002 2003 2004 2005 Teams in year 2005 are 144 PITF PUMOUTR February 21, 1995 To: All Plymouth Area Athletic Association Leaders A special task force has been formed to try to determine future indoor and outdoor athletic facility needs in the City of Plymouth. This group, called the Plymouth Sports Facilities Review Committee, includes representatives from the Plymouth City Council, Plymouth Parks Recreation Advisory Council, the Plymouth Parks & Recreation Department Staff, the Wayzata School District, and Robbinsdale School District. Your association will be contacted in the near future to meet with this task force. In order to help us do some preliminary projections, please complete the enclosed questionnaire and return it as soon as possible. If you have any questions, please call me at 550-5133 or call Eric Blank, Plymouth Park & Recreation Director, at 550-5131. Thank you for your cooperation. I look forward to seeing you soon. Sincerely, 4a 4 Rick Busch Recreation Supervisor RB/ds enclosure We Listen • We Solve ^ We Care s 171!fi. 10,x". r DATE: November 7, 18995 FROM: Eric J. Blank, Director, Parks and Recreation SUBJECT: Capital Improvements Program Attached for your review is the latest revision of the proposed 1996-2000 CIP budget. This will continue to be a discussion item at the November meeting, with action being delayed on adoption until your December 14 meeting. It is anticipated that the City Council, at their work session on November 27 dealing with ice rinks, swimming pools and other issues, may give direction on further modifications to the capital improvements budget. EB/np 96CIPPRKILS 1117185 Pape 1 City ofPlymouth 1996 - 2000 Capital Improvements Program Park Projects Project Park Year ParkDedleatton Park Dedication Number Project Playflelds Neighborhood MSA State/County Tar Increment Commmdty Other F -ding I Total 1 Other Funding Sources Notes Trails Parka Funding Federal Fhnanctn Farad • Sources Tmih 1996 0 0 100,000 0 0 0 0 100,000 Wen M.,b em Lake Peds Rued 1996 0 0 0 0 1,575,000 0 0 1,575,000 PInTmdEquipment Replecement(3) 1996 0 50,000 0 0 0 0 30,000 80,000 Park R lacenumt Peds Repl.awmk 1996 0 0 0 0 0 0 40,000 40,000 Park Replacement NmthPleyfield Dewlopm.t 1996 1,500,000 0 0 0 0 0 0 1,500,000 karease of $750,000 C... .Rids,NborhoodPmkDewlop 1996 0 220,000 0 0 0 0 0 220,000 Increase of $15,000 in. 'lure wnta ted. lake PekDewlopmmt 1996 400,000 0 0 40,000 0 0 0 440,000 Omenwood Elementmy Phrygnmd 1996 0 55,000 0 0 0 0 55,000 New project with PTA Sabbtal 1,900,000 325,000 100,000 40,000 1,575,000 0 70,000 4,010,000 Tmde 1997 100,000 0 100,000 0 0 0 0 200,000 Neighborhood Pk Development 1997 0 175,000 0 0 0 0 0 175,000 Ninth Pleyfield Developnwnt 1997 100,000 0 0 0 0 0 0 100,000 Perk Replemomtwrnk 1997 0 0 0 0 0 0 100,000 100,000 Pads Replacement Fund Sobtoml 200,000 175,000 100,000 0 0 0 100,000 575,000 Tmils 1998 200,000 0 100,000 0 0 0 0 300,000 NeipA.hood Fmk Development 1998 0 150,000 0 0 0 0 0 150,000 New project TrnthPlayfieidL=dwcgniih. 1998 200,000 0 0 0 0 0 0 200,000 Park R Iacemerd Farad Sabbml 400,000 150,000 100,000 0 0 0 0 650,000 TerdhPlayfield 1999 280,000 0 0 0 0 0 0 280,000 T.H. 1999 200,000 0 100,000 0 0 01 0 300,000 Sabtoml 480,000 0 100,000 0 0 0 0 580,000 Neghborhood Peds Deveopment 2000 0 175,000 0 0 0 0 0 175,000 Trait, 2000 200,000 0 100,000 0 0 0 0 300,000 Sabtobl 200,000 175,000 100,000 0 0 0 0 475,000 Total 3,180,000 825,0001500000 40,000 11575,000 0 170,000 6,290,000 1117185 Pape 1 96PKHVPD.XLS City of Plymouth 1996 - 2000 Capital Improvements Program Park Dedcadon Fund—Community Playfields and Trails Beginning Estimated Projected Transfer to Projected End Interest Earnings Projected Year Balance Revenues Expenditures Park Repl. Fund lBalance 5% on avg balance Final Balanc 1995 2,248,334 650,000 1,502,000) 25,000) 1,371,334 90,492 1,461,826 1996 1,461,826 472,500 1,900,000) 26,000) 8,326 36,754 45,079 1997 45,079 400,000 200,000) 27,000) 218,079 6,579 224,658 1998 224,658 400,000 400,000) 28,000) 196,658 10,533 207,191 1999 207,191 350,000 480,000) 29,000) 48,191 6,385 54,576 2000 54,576 350000 200,000) 30,000) 174,576 5,729 180,305 I Pape 1 96PHHVNP.XLS City of Plymouth 1996-2000 Capital Improvements Program Park Dedication Fund—Neighborhood Parks (Fund 219) Beginning Estimated Projected Transfer to Projected End Interest Earnings Projected Year Balance Revenues Expenditures Park Repl. Fund Balance 5% on avg balance Final Balanc 1995 282,917 202,500 262,000) 12,000) 211,417 12,358 223,775 1996 223,775 202,500 325,000) 12,000) 89,275 7,826 97,102 1997 97,102 175,000 175,000) 13,000) 84,102 4,530 88,632 1998 88,632 175,000 150,000) 14,000) 99,632 4,707 104,338 1999 104,338 100,000 0 14,000) 190,338 7,367 197,705 2000 328,880 100,000 175,000) 15,000) 238,880 14,194 253,074 dow 1116195 Page 1