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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 12-06-1980Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the PZynmth Parks and, Recreation Advisory a maission, Nix 6, 1980 C'rmn ssioners Present:. Man Brass,_ Steve Chesebr u*, Frank Dvor .k, Barbara Edaards, John Millan, and Betty Threnen tloamissioner Absent: James Rice Staff Present; Eric Blank, Rick Busch, Nancy Heigesvn and Jane Thorston others. Present:, Dave Weir, Jim Brown, Jdm Palda, Belly Palda, Earl Anderson, Barbara Anderson, Marinas Maoden,, Jan Brown, Jan Darth, Boyer Palmer, hiss Nahornak, LeRoy Wensale, and. Dewe Nygren 1. CALL To C}ICER 0ORMssioner Threinen called the meeting to order at 7;30 p.m APPROVAL OF MDR?MS 0ocrissioner Mullan asked for clarification of purpose of PIP meetings. Director Blank informed him that in addition to discussing Parks., other city staff may be present to field questions on other issues. THE MUTES OF THE C) MWR 2nd ME ETIM WERE MM APPROM BY A MNICNFRom axtamcNER BPASS, WHICH WAS SE MED By C OMMISSIMR, MUM. A VME WAS !MM, AND THE MDTICN PASSED WITH ALL AYES. 3. VISITOR PFESENTATIMS A) There were no Athletic Association Representatives present. B) Others Their presentations; will be covered in later agenda items C). Jane Thorston and Rick Busch - Jane Thorston presented the =mdssioners with cocparsson figures between fall programs of 1979 and. 1980 which pointed out i that youth class enrolment had, doubled this fall She also talked of Senior activities whz., irplude an exexcise session held once a week followed by hiking, and one monthly dance held at St. May of the Lake. Sone of her Christmas vacation activities: include ,ski.. lessons, a trip to the Children's Mleatre to see Cinderella and a, special PlynDuth outing to Murphy's Landing in Shakopee. Ride Busch shared information regarding his programs, same of which were. new this fall, including youth wrestling, 3-man basketball and 4-man football. New program for winter are cry-rec broanball if there is enough interest, skating instruction for youth, `:tri a table tennis tournaamt in February, and an adultwrestling program. 1he next items were taken out of sequence. in consideration of the visitors. 54 UNFINISHED BW IlNESS A) Cramer-Weir: Trail Between Niagara and Ferrbrook:Janes - Director Blank in s item. by giving a staff report which pointed out t1aree alterna- tive trail plans for consideration by the PFAC. Following this staff report, Dave Weir, representing Cranes-Weix and Scoville Press, name forwa cd and stated his objections to all theme alternatives, pointing out his concern that none of the alternatives was suitable to this area. He feels that bicyclists and pedes- trians will opt for taking a mare scenic route, e.g., traveling along County Aaad'. `6, as opposed to riding in and around industrial warehouses. Theo of the three alternatives will mean that Scoville Press will have to give trail ease meets. The commissioners continued discussing the alternatives among themselves and asked questions of W. Weir and Director Blank. c PMC Minutes of Novcsdxx 6, 1980 Page 2. QmKc.SSICNER MIIJAN MEN MATE A OTICN THAT PW. ADOPT THE TRAIL RSOOMMM BY` SMY MUCH GOES EAST FROM, NIAGM TO .FMMROOK, SOUTH CN FUMICOK TO A CFCSSING AT 25th AVENUE AND THEN CONTINUES EAST TO 494 AND CaTNDCI'S TO THE NOWH-SOUIH OOUB=R TRAIL THERE. HE ALSO IWESTS THAT STAFF EWXD :THE HIRING OF A CONSULTANT' TO REVIEW THE IMAL TRAIL; PLAN. COWESSICNER BRASS ADM) THAT HE WOW LIKE THE WORD "EASENIM" INSERTED AMM ME SURD TRAIL. THE MyI'ICN WAS SECONM BY OObWSSICNER BRASS'. A VOM WAS 'TAKEN AND THE MTICK TIED, WITH 00bMSSICNERS MJLIAN AND EMMS VIMITNC AYE, AND OOMMSSICNERS CHESEBROUGH Ali) DMRAK- VOTING' NAY.. CO MI$SIONER BRASS ABSTAINED.: THE M7ITCN FINALLY PASSED WrM OCMUSSICNER WMMN VOTING AYE. B) Bass Lake Access: Report from PRAC Subcommittee Commissioner Brass pointed out that Me main concern of this oom ittee 39M—with water and water frontage being limited resources that will become of greater value to Plymouth residents. The suboonmittee suggests ttAt PRAC needs to develop a policy insuring maxis m availability of these resources to the residents while remaining resPertful of individual rights. The committee gooses not to study each and every request individually, but rather that,PRAC develop a omprehens ve lakefront plan similar Jim :Brown, representing the residents of Palmer's Cove, came forward at this, point and stated his objections to a lake access being constructed in the Oakview cul -de• -sac. Director. Blank then said that the Boyer Palmer property would provably be accepted by the INR and that they would prefer that lake access be installed at a location other than Mr. Palmer's property. City engineers and INR staff are now taking surveys to try and determine if Timber Shores Park would be a. suitable location for this access.. Director Blank hopes to have this data available for the December PPAiC meeting. Connissioner Threinen suggested that PRAC table any action on the Bass Take Access until the report from the INR and engineers is available. When asked what Mr. Palmer would do with his property if it's not acoepted by either the City or. the DNR, he answered that he would probably build a hous-e- on the site. 6. NEW BUSINESS B) Carlson Center: Review Need for NeighboriKo Park - (Commissioner, Mullan left U14 meetingg using discussion of this item, since hA, , firm is working` with Carlson Companies.) Director Blank gave a staff report which advised against developing a park in this neighborhood, sinoe Sunset Hill School Park is within six blocks of this development and satisfies the walking neighborhood park, requirement. Russ Nahorniako 414 Berkshire Lane, then came forward and presented background information and maps in support of his request that.PRAC reconsider an additional park for this area. He stated that because of Carlson's proposed roadway Plans, the residents of"this neighborhood will be cut off from a convenient access to Sunset Hill School Park, and tb t the children of this area will have to cross County Road 61 in order to get to the park. He presented data sharing that Oaunty Road 61 will be used by 29,000 to 30,000 cars tier day. Mr.. Nahorniak does not think that c i ildren can safely get across this street. He is -asking that PMC refrain from adopting a motion that would prevent Walking Neighborhood 44 from having an additional park. Director Blank said that he did not see any problem if- tills wire tabled. PPP Minutes. of Nouenber 6, 1980 Page 3 03*MiaNm =MK M TICKED THAT PRAC SHOULD DEFER ACTIC N FOR. CIE M NTH CN STAFF'S FIMM 3A'f ON UrUIL M r E I NFORMATICN IS AVAILABLE CN THE" CAN" CHR ER: AND Mff SMF ` SHOULD KEEP AN OPEN MIND WHEN 'REVIEWING 7HE PLAN'. THE AMCN WAS SBOONCED BY 00 WSSICNER C HESFBFIDUGH. A. %KYM WAS TAM,,AND THE M rICN CARRED W, rM ALL AYES 4. REPOFW CN -PAST 'COCNCM ACTICNS A), 1981 Park and RecreationB - the City Council approved the final budget ane Director exp what the funding includes:I the Senior Citizen program, the. Special population Program, the Warning House Program, the Puppet Wagon, Playgrounds in the Streets,, and donations to the Athletic Associations. B) 1981.-85 CIP Director Blank handed out copies of the CIP and, went through it year by year explaining which items would be covered. Each year includes the develgment' of two neighborhood parks, trail inprovements and the Zachary Lane playfield contract. Zhe Creerwood Elementary playfield site has been anitted. As part of the CIP discussion, om rassioners asked Director Blank if the ENi;/Bass Lake access issue would affect Timber Shores Park inproveMents , particulary in terms of parking area. He answered that the DNR proposes to develop a parking lot to acoamiodate eight vehicles, and that we would attenQt to dovetail -on= itpravenxmts of Tuber Shores with any improvements the INR, may, constrict .for lake access. Further discussion of the CIP led to questions regarding the Mission Hill area, and its residents preparing written information for purposes of giving PRAC input in terms of a neighbor- hood park hese. Director Blank then offered the following timetable: He hopes tr, ha%e park consultants hired by January; mc,-tings underway with the neighbor- hoods by eighborhoods'by February; plans and. specifications finished by April lst; with construct cn being corpleted by next fall. Additionally, because of residents' interest in giving their input intro park planning, Director Blank suggested, that PRAC develop a policy which will define homeowner association input to the planning proms and determine the rights of those persons living on a park as opposed to the r ".,,wts of those who don't. C) Ridgamunt Playfield: Award of Bids Director Blank shared a mem with the 35;j 1—cnem which detail the bid award for the Rid9emount playfield. The contractor will, be developing two new soccer/football fields excluding` lights, two hockey rinks with lights, a parking lot, and lighting: of the existing tennis courts.. 'There will be no shelter at this playfield for the time being, and the two baseball fields already there will remain, but will not receive any inprovements 5. [NF' USHED BUSIN .S' A) See page 1. B) See page 2. C) Playfield Update 'Thirty acres at Zachary Lane have. been approved :for purchase csn a contract for deed, with an additional 13 acres possibly can= ng from. the. Deerwood Meadows parcel. Plymouth Jr.. High has been totally sodded; the "shelter at IaOa mte Green is underway with mascrny almost totally finished; sodding, at Oakwood is omplete, and decking for the shelter roof is being done. The hockey rinks are nearly 90$ ecuplete. The trails are nearly all finished at the Fernbrook site, and the parking is in. The contractor is putting the final touches on the irrigation system. over all, Director Blank is pleased with the progress being made on the playfields. n Kia PW Minutes of November. 6, 1980 r Page D) Pru3ential D nnLgxt-nt - A trail, corridor has been determined, but neighborhood 1^m* sate is s;til begstudied. E) Shiloh and. O1eanloch The co trac 'or is still laying sod and replantinging trees,. TheiTtect nest yet signed off the project at this time. E) LA KrN Gant - The grant will be going to t`ie 1042 Ccxmi ssion in. December and. apj-7,;vul could be forthcoumng in January or Febivary. It might be possible to have of the beach. improvements ready by the 1981,surtver° season. G) Omprehensive Park Plan Oopie^s of the plan will be sent to all the comnissicners.. 6. NEW BUSINESS A) New Plats - There are no new plats at this time. B) See page 2. 7., O3HIISSICN FFESENTRACNS 0mvissicner Millan, requested' that staff get the trail plan updated as soon as possible. Qmvdssioner 1hreinen announced a Gc amni,ty Education meeting to be held at Oakwood Elementary on, Tuesday, Novenber 1Z, ,'Ahich will discuss the Child. Care .LatCh Key Program:, 3. S'.FF C OMM NICAI"°IC INS Director Blank informed the oamdssioners of the anniel MMWA fall conference which is being held at the Zhunderbird Irbtel. in Bl drxibm on November 19, 20 and 21. If cc:,t s5ioners wish W atter am' sessirAis, they should aantact Naacy on Friday, November 7th. Dimer Blank also told comrdssionerrs that he had discussed. the ids of a different format for our newsletter with Jim Willis and that. they new format may be used for next spring e s prc-graiti oalerings . As a final note, Director Blank mentioned that the: oonmissioners:would probably begin seeing co m vials; on television sponsored by the National, Recreation and Parks Associatimi. 'their message:. "Life. Be In It." ocir, issioner Che sebnNx h motioned to adjourn which was, seconded by Cc missioner v ass .; The meeting adjourned a - 9:55 p. m.