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Minutes of the Park and Recreation. Advisory Commission Meeting,
d'anuary 12, 1989
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Present, Chair Edwards, Commissioners Arderson, LaTour, Beach, Rosen and
Hanson; staff Blank, Patterson and Pederson
1.. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Edwards cal.l.ed the January meeting to order at 7.m.. in the
Council Chambers:
2. APPROVAL OF' MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner LaTour and seconded by Commissioner
Rosen to approve the minutes of the December meeting as presented. The
motion carried with; all ayes.
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athlctic Associations, hone were present at this meeting,
b. Staff, Mary Patterson discussed the youth ski trip scheduled for
Monday,, January 16, and explained that Plymouth had two full buses of
students registered.,
She stated; that, the recreation survey was being mailed to 377
residents on Friday, January 13.
She: discussed the Fire b Ice Festival schedule of events and confirmed
that PRAC would be, supervising the bonfire and might be involved' in
assist gig with *'more making.
She indicated that a couple of recreation division charts were missing
from the draft copy of the annual report, but would be included in the
final copy,
c. others. Nona were present at the meeting.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
a, ewject on of ,Three Arch1t2ct Final ists-Comunity Center. Director
Blank; stated that the Council approved the selection of the three
architects recommended by the Selection Committee.
5, UNFINISHED BUSINESS
s, W2st Medicine LakeDriveTrail--Public Maatina, Director Blank briefly
aviewed previous steps and procedures that have been taken with
regard) to the proposed trail along West Medicine, Lake Drive. He;
talked, about the public meeting that had been held. last August which
was attended by approximately 125 concerned residents, and he stated
that those residents had made three points very clear - there is a
definite- need for a trail, park improvements are desired, and
residents want to continue to drive along the lake shore. Director
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Blank then shared with the audience and the Commission an overhead
projection displaying three alternative route* for this proposed
trail.. He then explained the reasons for staff's recommendation of
Alternative P2 which are: overall project cost., minimal disruption of
existing; residential property, residents will be able to continue
driving along the lake, and the lake shore within West Medicine Lake
Park will be more recreational in nature=
Paul Schwebac', 11808 18th Avenue, stated that part of, the proposed
route for Alt. #2 is through a swamp and that he is concerned with how
costly it will be to fill. it. When; questioned, staff responded that
soil tests have not yet been done of this area,
Dan Bernier, 2650 Norwood Lane, stated; that he also is concerned about
this swampy area,: He askedif the homes on 23rd would be purchased,
how wide the street would be when it's rerouted and how the trail
would be separated from the street, since it's not very wide in
places. Director. Blank, stated that there were no pians at this time
to purchase any homes on 23rd Avenue'. He stated that r,.l,4 trail would
be paved along the edge of the street and would probably be separated
from the street by curb and gutter. He wasn't sure at this time how
wide the ns'v street would bu•
Erika Urban., 1541 West Medicine Lake Drive, said that she was
concerned with the "unofficial" boat launch near their home and how
this boatlaunch could be controlled end would their property . y be
assessed for the construction of the trail. Director Blank indicated
that there are no plans at this time to assess the property owners.
Marjorie Demeules, 1749 West Medicine Lake Drive, requested that plans
and specifications be made available to residents once a final
decision has been made;
James Bosch, 1830 Forestview Lane, stated that he has lived at his
curs#ant address since 1975x and recently made some costly improvements
to his, property. He stated he would rather see West Medicine Lake
Drive turned into a one-way.. His feeling is that the realignment of
the road through the swamp will have a negative impact on the Wild
life inhabiting, that area. He has no problems with the trail being
cons trt cted but does not favor realignment of the street. Direc.tUr
Blank indicated that he had talked with Public Works Director, Fred
Moore, about the feasibility of a one-way street, and Mr._ Moore's
reaction was that it isn't practical unless a one -Kay in the opposite
direction can be arranged within two blocks-.
Joe Bergland, 2319 Kirkwood Lane, does not favor a one-way street. He
does favor Alternative d2' and asked if a guardrail separating the
trail from the street. had been considered. Director Blank stated that
to add a guardrail would cost approximately $75,000.
Gordon Olson, 1615 Evergreen Lane, stated he was in favor, of
Alternative #2. He asked if there was some way the City could' slow
down the boat traffic in the narrow channel by the West beach.
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At the conclusion: of input from the residents, Director Blank. stated,
tot he had, received a few phone calls and letters from people who
could not attendthe meeting. Two callers and two of the letter
writers favored Alternative #E2. One caller favored Alternative #3 and
the other letter writes was requesting improvements, in general, to
West Medicine Lake Drive, because he runs along the shoulder as a
means to stay fit, and he is concerned, with his safety..
Commissioner Rosen questioned the reasons for staff recommending
Alternative: #2. After looking at the overhead projection, he stated
that it_appeared Alternative #1 was in fact; the cheapest and the least
disruptive to the property owners, and it still allowed the residentspPPy
to drive along the lake shore. He also etated that by PRAC
recommending, Alternative #2, they would be doing so with the
assumption that: there would be no disruption of property. Director
Blank pointed out that you cannot make that assumption. He said the
rerouting of West Medicine Lake Drive would probably come very close
to some homeowners' property, but he didn't know how close at. this
time.
Commissioner Hanson stated that the only reason she could see for
recommending Alternative #2 is that it gets the street away from; the
lake and reroutes it through the park.
Commissioner' LaTour indicated her concurrence with getting West
Medicine Lake Drive away from the beach area.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BEACH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
HANSON,RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ALTERNATIVE #2 AS RECOMMZNDED BY STAFF
WITH THE MAIN REASON BEING REALIGNMENT OF THE STREET AWAY FROM THE
LAKE SHORE. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES.,
b. barker's Lake Update. Director Blank stated that corrections in the
kitchen have bean made in order to meet health code requirements. He
also stated that the arts and crafts sink in the storage room is now
in place.`
e. Pixmguth Creek Park Parkes Lot Improvements, Director Blank briefly
reviewed the report prepared by Bonestroo on the parking lot
improvement project. Ninety-three additional stalls have been
proposed at a cost of $805 per stall, along with the construction of
two smell storm sewer systems. An existing storm sewer needs to be
removed. The Commission: asked if the charge for the storm sewers
would come out of this project budget also, and Director Blank
indicated it would'.
COMMISSIONER BEACH MOVED AND COMMISSIONER HANSON SECONDED A MOTION TO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PARKING LOT EXPANSION PROJECT AT PLYMOUTH
CREEK PARK. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES:
d« CosLrehens#ve Plan Uodate. Director Blank displayed two large maps
showing the comprehensive trail system and the comprehensive part:
system and explained to the Commission what changes to the parks and
trails he is proposing. He suggested that FRAC hold a pubic meeting_
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in March at which time interested residents could state their
opinions. it is, at thio meeting that, the Park Commission should make
their recommendation regarding the Comprehensive Plan update. The
Planning Department will be holding public hearings in March, also;
The re -wording of items 10, 12 and 14 of the Comprehensive Plan as
suggested by FRAC at their December meeting: was reviewed for any other
changes. Following a brief discussion, COMMISSIONER ROSEN MADE; A
MOTION- WHICH WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER, HANSON TO ACCEPT THE
REWORDING OF THOSE ITEMS AND FORWARD THEM: TO THE PLANNING DEPARTME11T.;
THE MOTION CARRIED 'WITH ALL AYES.
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e. coMMity CentSr Uedate. Director Blank reviewed the revised calender
of future meeting dates and flow the plans for the community center, are
scheduled to progress.. He stated that the meeting on January 19 will.
be chaired by Jerry Sisk. Pre -written questions and answers will be
available as a hand-out for citizens to pick up before the meeting,
which should help eliminate some of the repetition of questions.,
Ann Ehneich£ 1461 West Medicine Lake Drive,, was concernedwith a_
letter to the editor she saw in a local newspaper which said that
every Plymouth tax payer had been taxed $160 to build the community
center. Staff and FRAC responded that this information was incorrect
and Ment on to explain to Mrs. Ehneich how the City has proposed to
fund the construction if the community center is built.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a NewPlats. There were no new plats.
b. Annual Report Draft. The annual report was briefly reviewed by PRAC.
Commissioner Hanson Guggepted that staff include under the
Highlights" section all the. meetings and tours PRAC participated in
regarding their study of the community center project.
7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION
Chair Edwards thanked the commissioner# for their effort in attending the
meetings in 1988.
8. STAFF COMMUNICATION
Director Blank stated that the deadline for receiving applications for the
vacancy on the Park Commission is January 20
9-. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m.