HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 07-14-1988Minutes of the 'Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting
rr ly 14, 1988
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Present; Chair Edwards., Commissioners L,a'Tour, Rosen,, Anderson, Reed, Beach,
and; Hanson; Cuuncilmembers Picker and Vasiliou; staff blank,_
1atterson, Larsen, and Sankey.
Absent; None
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Edwards called the July meeting to order at 1.35 p,m.. in, the
Council Conference Room.
2, APPROVAL Of MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Reed and, seconded by Commissioner
TATour to approve the minutes with a correction of thetneeting date from
June 14 to June 9,. The motion carried with all ayes,
3' VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Associations. None were. present at this meeting,
b, Stgff. Mary Patterson presented the duly/August issue of Plymouth
on Parade. She said that many of the programs offered were repeat
listings. from the earlier issue, and there are a. few new offerings
for late summer.
Mary stated that the the new programs, Pre-school PITS Special
Events and Have a Ball, were very popular. The staff is having, a
very busy summer, with Day Camp coming up in August. Mary announced.
that a decision was made todeletethe swim. from the Triathlon and
make it a biathlon this year because of the poor water quality.
Mary stated that staff is working hard on budgets which are almost
ready. Also, a new report is available from the Finance Department
with year-to-date financial figures,, so she should have a financial
report for the Commission by the next meeting.
Mary reportedthat the public relations brochure is nearly complete
and should be ready by the next meeting also.
Mary introduced Molly Larsen, the department's intern from the
University of Minnesota. She will be working, with the department
from mid-June to mid --August Molly is working on some research
projects, programming, Triathlon, Prey -school PITS, and many other
activities.
C. Others. ,
None.
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4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION'
e,4 None.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A • Community Center. Representatives from seniar groups were present
to give, their ideas for a. senior center, Chair Edwards started that
a top priority for the Community Center is to provide space for the
seniors, and the Commission's task is to determine what the seniors
need. Joyce McCaughey, West Medicine Lake Community Club, stated
that they have 105-110 members and that SC Mary's seniors have 40--50
members, They need a place to meet. Commissioner Beach asked what
type of facilities they would require. Marion Hauer .felt that space.
for at least 150 people was necessary, plus ovens, microwaves, sink,
meeting, room, and a place to play cards. She felt that tha kitchen.
should be separate from the party room because of noise and clutter.
Other comments were: room for classes, crafts, pool, and ping -pang..
Mable Swanson presented a petition signed by seniors in favor of a
senior center. Commissioner Rosen. asked Khat times of the day the
seniors would ut.lire the space most heavily. Marion Bauer felt
that since many seniors do not drive at night, 9:00 a.m. to 4:00
p.m. would be likely hours. Commissioner Rosen stated that many
facilities, such as schools, are not available at those times, and
that other members of the community could use some of the facilities
during evening hours. This would make good use of the space. Mabel
Swanson stated that the seniors would be willing to be volunteer
staff for the facility.
Walter Schulke cautionedthe Commission not to defer to special
interest groups and to determine real needs, not just desires... He
also felt than the possibility of refurbishing -;fisting buildings or
using facilities ?;?ready in place should be ex"..-ined..
Arlene Johnson stated that she was against a wive pool and that as a
tax payer, she shouldhave the right to vote on the project,
Commissioner Rosen stated that the Council would have to decide on
whether the residents would have a vote on the pr*,ject.
Judy Grabham presented a petition from parents of Mach III flyers, in
support of a 50 meter pool with separate diving pool. She also
presented an article from the "Anandale Advocate" by Rudy Perpich
advocating the support of amateur sports.
Veronica Strehle presented her ideas on the need for a teen center
for teens and pre -teens to congregate in a supervised environment.
Commissioner Rosen asked Councilman Ricker for clarification on how
the Council stands on the Community Center. Councilman Ricker
stated that the $8,000,000 potential funding has not actually been
appropriated at this time, but that the council has set aside this
money and has asked the Commission to study the real needs of the
community. The commissioners, in general, felt that the building
will have to meet the needs of the entire community, not just the
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competitive athletic groups, They also ,feel, the facility should be
revenue producing. Eric Blank pointed out, that we do currently
provide ;ion -revenue producing facilities such as Oakwood Playfield,
The Community Center has the potential to be at least partially self
sufficient.
The Commissioners discussed how to proceed from here It wit agreed
hat the commissioners should prepare a written statement of their
own philosophies and ideas for the, center to be shared with the;
others at the next meeting. Commissioners decided to hold s meeting
after the joint meeting with Council on. July 25 to further discuss
the Community Center.
b. 19893 CIP, Eric Blank stated that there has been an addition to
the 19S4Y CIP of expanded parking for Plymouth Greek Park, The
advent of the new Plymouth Athletic Association soccer program,
along with, our own programs has caused a critical need for more
parking stalls. The 560,000 in the CIP would buy 45-60 new stalls.
Chair Edwards asked it the Commission had officially recommended the
10,000 to be given to Greenwood for the. playground. Eric stated
that; he was sure that was the recommendation. The commisaionerte
felt that the CIP should show a break -down of $20,000 for Kilmer,,
10,000 for Oakwood and $10,000 for Greenwood. Clint Strehl,e pre-
sented his, ideas on the need for additional tennis facilities.
Commissioner Rosen asked how he would fuel about charging a fee for
reserving_ the tennis courts to help defray the cost of having an
attendant, Clint felt this wogld be suitable. He would also like
to see a bubble for cold weather months. Commissioner Anderson
moved that the CIP be approved as presented. Commissioner Hanson
seconded the motion. The motion was carried with all ayes,
C. Kk Usage/Cost Study - ;q1d tte,. Eric stated that he is working on a
study to provides information on fees for park usage. It is on the
Council agenda for July 25.
Parkers Lakes UpdAte. Eric stated that the roof is up on the
pavillion. Tha: project. is a, little behind schedule due to a lack of
carpenters. They should still be able to complete by the deadline.,
Molly Larsen is doing research for a rental fee policy. This will
be brought back to PRAC for approval
Sts Marl's Neighborhood Park - Uudat2. fire reported, that the
bridge is in and the play structure is being assembled. The only
problem right now is the heat. If things stay the same, he would
like to have the seeding wait until, next spring. Commissioner Rosen
asked about tree planting,, Eric indicated that the trees have not
been planted. due to the dry conditions. The city has already lost
45 trees and. 45 more are in jeopardy, Two tanker trucks are out
every day trying to water the trees to help them survive. It will
take about $13,000 in the 1989 budget to replace, the trees that have
been lost. Chair Edwards asked how many flower gardens are planned
for Parkers Lake. Eric said v;. have five in at this time and will
be adding the! areas around. r..`, f', intain pond later this summer.
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f, W at Medicine a Rad Tri - Uudate. Eric announced that a
letter would be going out to the area residents inviting them to the
August 11 Public Information Meeting. The Engineering staff will
present options: for the roadways, Citizens will be asked for their
ideas. There is $75,OOO in 1989 CIP for the project,.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. hw P ats. 'Trenton Lane Apartments have requested new trails which
are not in the current trail system plan. They will come to the
August 11 meeting.
7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION
Chair Edwards reminded the members of the Training Meeting for Board and
Commission Members at the Brooklyn Park Community Center on 'Tuesday,
August 23. It was highly recommended by Mary Patterson. Commissioners
Anderson, Edwards, Rosen, and: Beach would like to go. Commissioner
Hanson is unsure at this time, Commissioner Latour is not available,
Commissioner. Beach tasked Eric if the city was self insured. Eric said,
yes, in conjunction with the League of Minnesota Trust.
8, STAFF COMMUNICATION
None.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 p.m,