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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 10-03-1985Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory COMmI 5sion October 3., 1985 Page 30 Present: Commissioners Edwards, Beach, LaTour, Reed, Anderson and Mullan; staff Blank and Pederson; Brauer and Associates representatives Paul Fjare and George Watson; residents intere•rhed In the Parkers Lake City Park Issue, 1. CALL TO ORDER Commissioner Edwards called the October meeting to order at 7:33 p.m. in the City Center Council conference room.. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTE A motion was made by Commissioner Beach and seconded by Commissionor Reed to approve the minutes of the September meeting as presented. The motion carried with all ayes. 3, VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. Athletic Assoulatiohs, None were prese•`t,'. b. Staff. There were no recreation staff reports. c.. Others. None 4, REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION There were no reports on past council action.. 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS a, Parkers Lake Master Site Plan. Paul Fjare of Brauer and Associates briefly reviewed the planning process to date for the residents in attendance and then dispiayed several boards showing the master site plan for Parkers Lake City Park followed by a detailed explanation of each board. Commissioner Edwards then asked the audience for questions and comments. Jackie. Anerson of 1555 Juneau Lane stated that she was concerned about the proximity of the proposed trail on the northeast end of the lake. It is shown on the plan very close to the Intersection of County Road 6 and Juneau Lane, Director Blank indicated that the exact location of the trail has not been decided but that it would likely follow along the County Road 6 right-of-way. Robert Videen, residing at 1151 Kingsview Lane, asked about the surface of the trail and If it would be separated for bikers and joggers. George Watson of Brauer responded that -the trail would be mostly asphalt and 12 feet in width. There aro some portions of the trail that could be wood chips. If necessary, the trail could be striped with two-way direction arrows. Mr. Videen then stated he felt the trail access to the Luce Line ch the east side of the lake should be from Harbor- Lane rather than King,sview, because of the steep grade at Kingsview. Starf lndicatt:d that where the grade drops off, steps will be constructed, and bikers will simply have to dismount and, walk their bikes down at this point. Mr. Videen then questioned why the large picnic area has been proposed for the southwest corner when aiI of the Iarge parking areas seem to be on the northwest end of the park. Mr. Blank stated that the Minutes of the PRAO Meeting October ), 1985 Page 31 reservation picnic area for the southwest end would be constructed in a future phase of the park, Including the necessary parking required. Mrs. Videen then questioned how large this picnic area would be. Staff Indicated that it was meant for small groups such as fomily reunions with approximately 50 in attendance, and not for "company" picnics which was the concern of some of the residents In attendance. Kiri Reynolds of 15300 9th Avenue wondered about the removal of trees. Staff responded that as few trees as possible would be destroyed.. LeRoy Reinke. of 14411 County Road 6 asked about the proposed parking 101 on the north side of County Road 6 and the operating budget for the park. Director Blank stated the parking lot may not be included In Phase 1, and the operating budget is estimated at $20,000 annually.. No fees are anticipated at this time to offset the cost of operating This park. Mrs. Videen suggested that the parking proposed for the north end of the park running along the south side of County Rood 6 be properly signed to warn that boat trailers are not allowed here. There were some questions then about a proposed buffer betwaen the large pichicigames area and the lake's od9 o on the west side. Director Blank stated that all existing trees will remain and that a possible 50,000 could be spent on planting new material over the: next five years. Jeanette Glimmorveen of 1135 Kingsview Lane wondered about the crowded parking conditions, at the workhouse on visitor days and how this might spilt over into the park. Director Clank stated that we would sign our parking areas to state that they were for park visitors only. Robert l=ord of 15420 County Road 6 asked if fencing would aver be erected around the park. His concern was for snowmobtlers. Staff responded that any screening proposed Is to be accomplished with berming and trees, and that a fence would only be considered in extreme cases. Snowmobile access to -the park has not been determined yet, Snowmobilers will be discouraged, however, from using the trail around the park In the winter as it Is to be used by Joggers and cross-country skiers. There were some questions about the length of the proposed beach and how many pe•,)ple It will accommodate. George Watson indicated that the beach Is proposed to be 250 meet long and will support approximately 150-200 swimmers/sunbathers. John Glimmerveen asked about the timetable for the park's construction.. Director Clank responded that the earliest construction would begin is late this fall or early next spring. The beach probably will not open until the summer of 1987. Commissioner Edwards closed the public portion of the meeting at 8:30 p.m. and asked for commissioners' comments. John Mullan statod that he was concerned about the parking on the south- west end of the park. Director Blank answered that the picnic area PRAG Minutes of October 3, 1985: Page 32 proposed there would not be constructed until the parking issue has: been resolved. Don Anderson indicated that he was concerned with the snowmobiling issue and how controversial It can become. Snowmobile access will have to be thoroughly researched by staff it was decided, Director Blank than indicated that Phase I funding of this park would include; grading, paving trail, picnic sholte3rs, seeding and sodding, planting, floating docks, beach; underground utilities and the peace garden.. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER i.ATOUR RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROPOSED MP,STER SITE PLAN FOR PARKERS LAKE CITY PARK AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PHASE I CONSTRUCTION. The motion carried with all ayes. b. NeighborhoodPark Improvements Update. Green Oaks park Is 75% completed; concrete work is yet to be done at Circle park. All play equipment is In at Green Oaks. The final' payment to the contractor for Maple Creek and Sunrise parks is going to the Council for their approval on October 7. The parking lot at Oakwood Is done except for the striping. r. 1986-90 CIP 1986-87 Budgets. The 1986-87 proposed budge'I Is on the Council agenda for October 7, but the CIP has been postponed until October 21. Director Blank noted that the City Manager is recommending that $250,000 in revenue sharing be used for Parkers Lake City Park d. ReQUe5t from Mr: and Mrs. Baxter to Dredge Queensland Pond. Mrs. Baxter appeared before the Commission at their June meeting requesting the dredging of the Queensland Park pond' near their home. She had indicated that an area of the pond that was low always dried out In the sump er and dredging would take care of this problem. Director Blank reviewed the matter with •the director of engineering, Fred Moore, and our equipment atmply could not handle this type of work. To hire Ii -'-no wouid cost approximately $1,000, and Director Blank felt that It quid not extensively benefit anyone other than the Baxters. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BEACH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER REED DIRECTING STAFF TO SEND A LETTER TO THE BAXTER'S DENYING THEIR REQUEST TO DREDGE QUEENSLAND POND. The Motion carried with all ayes. S. NEWBUSINESS a. Betty Threlnen RecQgpition.. PRAC suggested that Diroctor Blank inquire of the Council if they are planning any sort of special recognition for Betty Tyreinen. b. PRAC Education Program for New Commissioners. It was decided that an education program was necessary considering the number of new commis- sioners appointed since 1982. One Item for review would be the Comprehensive Park System Plan. It was suggested that the program should be delayed until, Council has appointed a replacement for Betty Throinen. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON URGING THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IN FINDING A REPLACEMCNT FOR COMMISSIONER THREINEN. The motion carried with ail ayes. PRAG Minutes of October 5, 1985 Page 33 c. MRPA Fail Conference. 'he MRPA fall conference is scheduled for Novem- ber 20.22 at -the Fled l sscn i n St. Pau l . Any conimi ss t oners w i sh l ng to attend, will have their fees paid by the City.. I. COMMISSION PRESENTATION Commissioner Mullan Indicated his concorn over park and recroa't•ion programs being cut or reduced In light of Counciimembor Vasillou's comments at recent budget meetings. S STAFF COMMUNICATION Director Blank will be attending the National Recreation and Parks Association Congress in Octobers. The noxa FRAC meeting Is scheduled for November 14. The Phase I construction plans for Parkers Like City Park will be on the agenda: 9. Abe OURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:20 p.m.