HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 03-08-1984Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation. Advisory Commission
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Present; Chair Threinen, Commissioners Chesebrough, Edwards, Mullan, Berg, LaTour
Planning Commissioner Magnus, staff Blank, Patterson, Pederson
Absent Commissioner Dvorak
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Threinen called the March meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. in the City Center
Council Chambers.
Z. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Mullan and seconded by Commissioner Berg
to approve the, minutes of the February meeting as presented. The motion
carried, with all ayes,
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Association Representatives. None were present at this meeting.
b. Marg Patterson. Mary indicated that the March brochures were delivered
to residents on approximately March 1. She talked about new programs
being offered which include an Art Center series jointly sponsored by
the Art Center of Minnesota, District 284 Community Education and the
Plymouth Park and Recreation Department, introduction to sailing taught
indoors with a follow-up class of on -the -water lessons if there is enough
interest shown, a community band, spring break activities, and a "Life. Be
In It." picnic scheduled for dune 9
5.. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a.. Amendment to Comprehensive Plan Public Hearin . Chair Threinen opened
they pub. 7c Baring at 7;39 p.m. Director Blank made a few brief introductory
remarks regarding the original proposed plans for the park its this area
followed by two new proposals for parks in this neighborhood. Residents
affected by the proposal were sent letters regarding the hearing and
maps of the options, and were invited to make comments at this meeting.
Steve Puck, 12810 30th Ave N
Mr. Puck fee s t at Site -Bis too small to be of any use as a park,
however, if it was an addition to the original site, it would be acceptable.
John Giebenhain, 3375 Rosewood Lane
Mr. Gie en ain prefers theorigina site and the addition of Site B.
Jack MacBean, 3685 _Sycamore Lane
Mr. Maw an prefers to have the park moved slightly to the south of the
proposed Site A. He pointed out that houses are proposed for the area
marked on the map as Site A, and moving the park to the south will make
it more centrally located to the existing homes and the proposed houses.
Bev Kottas, 3380 Sycamore Lane
Mrs. Kattas prefers the original proposed plan and the addition of Site
B. She feels that eliminating the original plan and building two small
parks at Sites. A and B will not be enough land to allow for any worthwhile
activities such as softball.
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Carol Brownell 3060 Rosewood Lane
Mrs. Brownell cons ers Stte It to be too small for any play equipment:..
Should would like the site to be at least four acres in size with low-
key activities, swings and slides.
Jeff Burton, 12940 30th Ave N
Mr. Burton lives near the proposed Site B. He feels this site is too
small for baseball, but okay for some playground equipment. He would
prefer the City to stay with the original proposed site.
Steve Shipley, 3525 Rosewood Lane
Mr.p e y, represent ng Heritage Highlands homeowners, asked 'the
following questions;
1) Who proposed changes to the original site?
2) What will be the amount to Lundgren Bros. on condemnation?
3) What happens to current proposed park if outer site.(s) are
chosen?
4) What is the size of the current proposed pari:?
5) What accesses are there to the park?
6) What are cost comparisons between sites?
7) Will HOA's have; input on what facilities will be in park?
8) What is the timeline for construction?
9) Are there any proposed road changes that would affect these sites?
He concluded by saying that Heritage Highlands has no formal position on
either proposal
Gail Curran, 12955 30th Ave N
Mrs. Curran pre ers the original plan.. Site B would be okay, but not
alone.
Jack Johnson, 3535 Rosewood Lane
Mr. Johnson prefers the original plan, because he believes the City will
be able to construct it sooner than they would be able to build the other
sites. He also feels that a larger park makes the most sense.
Steven D'erf 3350 Xerium Lane
Favors the or19na p an, also because of the timing of construction.
Mark McCullough, 3355 Rosewood Lane
Mr, McCullough is concerned that the original site, if not developed as
a park, will be used for new housing, because that is how it is currently
guided. He favors Site B, but only as an addition to the original plan.
Nancy Robinson 13000 37th AveN
upports a n Bina propose par site.
Arlene Johnson 3535 Rosewood Lane
SFiefeels that the na pan is good in the sense that it's located
in the center of the neighborhoods, however, the topography limits the
access. She would prefer a combination of all the sites for safer
access by the many children in the affected neighborhoods.
Chair Threinen closed the public hearing at 8.39 p.m., and invited
residents to attend the meeting on April 12, at which time the Park
and Recreation Advisory Commission will make its formal rccomntendation
based on the testimony heard at this meeting, written testimony sent
to Director Blank, staff recommendations and answers to the following
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questions posed by residents and the Commission:
1) A definition of the Walking 'neighborhoods,
2) Costs to. develop each option.
3) Facilities that could be constructed on three acres,
4) Cost: to develop a pedestrian bridge over County Road 51.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
The following items were passed by the Council at recent meetings.
a. The 1984 Park. System Improvements
b. Lard acquisition for a neighborhood park
c. The 1984 Park Facility Rental Policies
d. 1983 Annual Report
e. A MnDOT Bikeway Grant application..
They have not taken any action on user fees.
5.. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
b. Pla Equipment - Zachary Playfield Review Plans. Director Blank showed
5e commissioners the -proposed p ayground equipment pians for Zachary
Playfield, The basic plan with the addition of a 90' cable ride will
cost $31,000, which is $6,000 more than originally budgeted for this
improvement, Director Blank recommended approval of the plan with the
cable ride, and the additional $6,000 necessary to be taken from the
Park Dedication account.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
CHESEBROUGH TO ACCEPT THE PLAN AS PROPOSED WITH THE ADDITION OF THE
901 CABLE MIRE AND TO AMEND THE PROJECT BUDGET FROM.$25,000 TO $31,000.
The motion carried with all ayes.
c. Community Center U date - Stege Chesebrough. Commissioner Chesebrough
stated t .at at their ast ,zieei.ng, e d -on February 15, the citizens
commmittea members received questionnaires and forced choice grids which
were. to be handed out to clubs, organizations, athletic associations,
homeowner associations and neighbors, with the understanding that the
completed questionnaires should be returned to the Park and Recreation
Department by March 9 for tallying. The committee will meet two more
times, March 15 and 29, and then will. make a report on their findings
thus far for presentation tv PRAC and the City Council.
6, NEW BUSINESS
a. Designation of Two Neighborhood Parks for Development During 1984.
P c ose two sites--to-be- eveloped this year as neighborhood parks
after reviewing a number of sites outlined in a memo from Director
Blank dated March 2, 1984, The two sites chosen are in the Mapledell/
Maple,creek area and the Lillyblad site which the City is currently
acquiring.. Director Blank further indicated that two architects
who have done work for us previously will be asked to submit plans.
They are: Damon Farber Associates and Erkkila and Associates. Work
on these two sites should begin on approximately May 1 and be completed
by October 15, 1984, Commissioner Mullan. was concerned that the Council,
which recently established new guidelines for the hiring of consultants,
might wish to interview more than just two architects for this project.
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b., Review of Winter Skating Rink Attendance. Attendance reports indicated
veryli—ttTe—use of the ponds -and neiJhb&rhood skating rinks maintained
this past winter, PRAC requested that next, year -Is report should include
an evidence of use, including such things as visible skate marks on the
ice..
c. Installationlation of Canoe Racks at East leach. Director Blank is rec-iimending
thee instal-lation of two canoe racks for rental at the East Beach this
summer as an experiment for the purpose of generating revenue for thl-
recreation budget, The two racks would hold a total of 12 canoes and
would cost $300 each to construct and install. The work would be done
by the City's maintenance crews. He further reconotends that City residents
be given first priority to rent spaces at $1'5 each for the season., and
non-residents at $40 each if any spaces remain available.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CHESEBROUGH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MULLAN ENDORSING DIRECTOR BLANK'S RECOMMENDATIONS. The motion carried
with all ayes.
7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION
Chair Threinen, will be unable to attend the April 1z meeting; Commissioner
Cheebrough will conduct the meeting in her absence.
8, STAFF COMMUNICATION
None.
9, ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned, at Q!3O p.m.