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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 01-07-1982Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission January I, 1982 Page 1, Commissioners Present; games Rice, Steve Chesebrough., Betty Threinen,, John WIlan, Frank Dvorak, Davin Berg Commissioner Absentz Barbara Edwards Staff Present Eric Blank, Rick Busch, Mary Patterson: Staff Absent: Nancy Helgeson Others Present; Councilmember Pat Moen 1. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 7.3S p.m, by Chairman Rice. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion, to approve the minutes of the December meeting was made by Commissioner Chesebrough and seconded by Commissioner Threinen., Motion carried with all ayes 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. Athletic Association Representatives.. No one was present from this group.. b., Mary Patterson and Rick Busch. Mary Patterson gave a, review of the year- to-date totals of recreation programs and a brief outline of the new programs that will be taking place in January and February. She also asked the Commission to give her their opinions on types of music that might he popular in Plymouth for summer concerts in 1982. Commission members will have their suggestions ready for the February meeting. Rick Busch presented naterial with regard to athletics. He gave infor- mation about the broomball program starting and the skating lessons that have taken place over Christmas vacation and the ones scheduled for January and February after school. He also announced that a boot hockey tourv? „went would, be held on President's Day,, February IS, for school-age ldven. Participants must register at the warming houses. This is the final day for warming houses to be open during the, 198? season. Chairman Rice indicated to Rick that lie was interested in including ir. tho annual report the percentages of participants enrolled in hockey, soccer, softball, etc., this past year. More information regarding the annual report is discussed later in the minutes The Commission expressed soave concern over what our current role: is with the different athletic associations throughout the City.. One of the suggestions made by Chairman Rice was that we consider training youth volunteer coaches, and lie asked Rick Busch to explore this possibility. 4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION Director Blank- had nothing to report on this item, PRAC Minutes of January 7, 1982 Page 2 5, UNFINISHED BUSINESS a. Comprehensive Park: System Plan. Director Blank reviewed the proposed Compre ensive Park System Plan for the Commission. During this review, he highlighted. the questions that had arisen, during the earlier public hearing and: the responses as. to whether or not staff would recommend changes made to the proposed plan because of concerns that had come forth, During his presentation, Director Blank highlighted answers to the most often -asked questions. These were; 1) why was one: site selected over alternative sites, 2) the time line for acquisition of various sites, 3) the method of acquisition, 4) the funding mechanisms for acquisition, and S) the interim use by landowners of property up until the time the Council deems it necessary to purchase it for park. purposes. Some of the specific sites which were reviewed were: 1) the Troy Land Company site. Staff recommended that the. alternative site further south on Elm Creel: be incorporated into the plan as the neighborhood park for the northwest Corner of Plymouth. 2) The Pomerleau Lake site should remain as proposed in the plan.. 3) The Hennepin County Regional Trail's proposed location. Staff noted that the trail's proposed location was accurately reflected on the maps 4) The Harold Reimer property site should be moved slightly to the north so that it coincides with a property line, rather than leaving a narrow strip of land between the park a different land owner's property. S) Staf" noted that they had reviewed both the proposed sites owned by Lundgren Bros. and Richard Dezeil and recommended that neither proposed site be dropped from the plan at this time. After presenting the Park, System Plan, Director Blank reviewed. the Comprehensive Trail System Flan. He noted some recommended changes that were different frc", the last time PRAC saw, this plan,. One was the addition of a Class I trail going north from Gleanl;och Park intersecting with the Luce Line Trail. Second was the reclassification of the trail on. the east side of Medicine Lake from a community trail to a regional trail, He also pointed out a number of minor graphic changes to better delineate on which side of the road a particular trail was and a short trail in a small, cul-de-sac that had been overlooked on previous drafts. He reviewed the concern raised by Don Myron with regard to a trail on the east side of Highway 101 going north from OakwoodElementary. He reiterated that staff was. recommending that this trail should be a Class I off-road trail. Following brief comments and questians by PRAC' COMMISSIONER THREINEN MOVED: AND COMMISSIONER DVORAK SECONDED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMPRE- HENSIVE PARK AND "TRAIL'SYSTEM PLANS''AND',RECOMMENDED THEN( FOR ADOPTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL. Following the motion, Chairman Rice invited questions and comments from the commissioners. In response to a question from John Mullan regarding, whether or not East Medicine Lake Park was a City park, John Worrall indicated that it was a special use park. Mr, Mullan was also concerned about some information given on Page 16 of the Comprehensive Plan regarding discrepancies between the deficiencies FRACMinutes of January 7, 1982 age 3 resulting from neighborhood park standards and the actual property acquisition. He felt that this part of the paragraph needed to be more clear, and he made suggestions for simplifying it. Steve Chesebrough indicated that he also had numerous comments which he said he would write down and send to Director Blank for inclusion. in the final draft of the plan. He suggested that each page and map be numbered and dated for those whQ may be studying: the plan several years from now. Director Blank reviewed for the commission where snowmobil.ng is allowed in Plymouth based on a question from .john Mullan. David Berg was concerned about how the commission's actions affect the residents of Plymouth., particu,!rly in the case of acquiring private land for use as a park. He asked if the Council, always accepts all of PRAC's recommendations regardless of who they might impact. Chairman Rice responded that the Council does not always adopt every PRAC recommendation, but. that they do give much respect to the long hours put into projects by the various advisory boards. Following these comments and questions, the vote was taken and the 7ation, carried with. all ayes. b. Playlield Update. Director Blank reviewed the status of all playfield. construction to date, and noted that it was anticipated that the skating rink, pleasure -rink and.shelter at Zachary Playfield would be open by mid-January. C. Elm Creek Golf Course. Director Blank reviewed the contents of a memo he wrote to PRAC dated December 31, 1981. fie. • indicated that the City was not in a position at this time to undertake the purchase of Elm Creek Golf Course because of the projected deficit. of $100,000 to 150,00'0 annually in bond and interest debt payments. The Conunission accepted his recommendation and took.no further action. Director Blank did. recommend that when the Commission annually reviews the Comprehensive System Plan, which he expects will be done: again as early as August or September of 1982, that the Commission_ should look at identifying future golf courses for public ownership. City Park: Concept Plans.. John Worrall presented the concept plans for West Medicine Lake Park. This was an information -item only. Park and Recx?,ation Advisory Commission members asked a variety of questions dealing with,the size of parking lots, road relocation,. trail locations and containment or dredging of soil to create a ponding area. This item will be further discussed and reviewed at subsequent PRAC meetings. 1981 Annual Report, Director Blank handed out draft copies of the 1981 Annual Report for Commission review. Upon paging through the report very quickly, a number of suggestio-as were made by FRAC for staff review. One was the inclusion of pie charts to show the PRAC'Minutes of January 7, 1982. Page 4 distribution of revenues and funds for the department, also charts to depict expenditures per capita., the percentage of Cit} budget, source of revenue, and charts to show youth athletic participation. Commission members will take their reports home and indi,ridually review and send. comments to the director :for inclusion in the final draft. C. NEW BUSINESS a. New Plats. No new plats were presented. b. Phone Survey. Director Blank handed out the preliminary results from the Telephone survey showing attitudes. and interests of Plymouth residents,. General discussion of this material followed. Chairman Rice asked that staff research the passibility of cross tabbing questions 32 and 33 by age and location. The Commission was also interested in learning if there was a different response from long-term versus short-term, residents of the community, c. Director Blank reviewed ice rink reservation rules and charts showing which groups have reserved ice time for the winter season.. 7 COMISSICN PRESENTATION Mone. B'. STAFF CONHUNICATION None:, 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 10.15 p.m. Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission. February 4, 1982 Page 5 Commissioners, Present; Betty Threinen, Stere Chesebrough, Barbara Edwards, John Mullan Co issioners Absent; James Rice, David Berg, Frank Dvorak Staff Presents Eric Blank, Nancy Helgeson Others Present: Clark Magnus, Paul Fjare and Paul Schrooten 1. CALL TO ORDER Commissioner Threinen called the meeting to order at 7.40 p..m., in the Plymouth City Center Clauncil Chambers Conference Room. 2. APPROVAL OF IMINTES Commissioner Mullan corrected the bottom paragraph of page 2 of January's minutes. The sentence should have read West Medicine Lake rather than East Medicine Lake. COMMISSIONER C141ESEBROUGH MOVED AND COMMISS10NER MULLAN SECONDED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 7, 1982. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. Athletic Associa"V on Representatives. None were present.. b. Others. Clark Magnus was present in his role as liaison between the Planning Commission and PRAC. Paul Fjare and Paul Schrooten were present from Brauer and Associates to discuss Item 5-d. 4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION. Director Blank had nothing to report on this item. 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS a. Comprehensive Par', System Plan. Council will be vi -wing the plan at their February 22 meeting.. There is still gime to make corrections, and additions to Chapter 6. COMMISSIONER CHESEBROUGH MOVED AND COMMISSIONER EDWARDS SECONDED A MOTION TO ENDORSE THE PLYMOUTH PARK SYSTEM PLAN'S CHAPTER 6 AS PRESENTED ON FEBRJARY 4, 1982. THE CHAPTER 6 DRAFT IS DATED JARUARY 16, 1982. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH; ALL AYES. b. Playfield Update. Zachary Playfield is open and operational. All light towers but onr: are up. Final grading and sodding will take place in the spring.. c.. 1981 Annual Report,. The final copy of the Annual Report was briefly discussed and many favorable comments were heard from the cow.issioners.. Cbmmission Threinen asked that the minutes reflect the Commission's. appreciation of all the work put into the report by staff. COMMISSIONER CHESEBROUGH MOVED AND COMMISSIONER MULLAN SECONDED A MOTION TO ENDORSE. THE 1981 ANNUAL REPORT AND COMMEND THE STAFF FOR THEIR ASSEMBLY OF THE REPORT, THE MOTION CARRIED WITh ALL AYES. d. City Parks. Paul Fjare and Paul Schrooten were present from Brauer and Associates to review the three City parks' plans with the use of slides and maps.. Some specific issues were discussed pertaining to