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Home My WebLink AboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 03-08-1990Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission March 8, 1990, 7:30 p.m. AGENDA 1. Ca.11 to Order - introduction.of new commissioner Marlene Waage 2. Approval of Minutes 3 Visitor Presentations a, Athletic. Associations b. Staff, c. Others 4. Report on Past Council Action a. 1990 park .projects - approved b. 1990 fee schedules/rental policies approved 5. Unfinished Business a. Swan Lake neighborhood park timetable b. Playfields - Bass Lake/Parkers Lake c. Trails - West Medicine/46th Ave d. Comprehensive, plan - update (Planning Commission hearing date) e. 6.. New Business a. New plats b. Annual park tour (date?) C. d: 7 Coemiss.ion Presentation S. Staff Communication 9. Adjournment Next regular PRAC meeting April 19, 1990 Please note that April meeting is one week later than usual.) i Minutes of the Park and Recreation. Advisory Commission Meeting February 8, 1994 Page l Present: Chair Edwards, Commissioners Anderson,, Beach., Freels, Hanson and Rosen staff Ayshford., Blank, Busch, Patterson, Pederson and Peterson 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Edwards called the February meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. in the Council Conference Room.. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A Motion was made by Commissioner Hanson and seconded by Commissioner Freels to approve the minutes of the December, 1989, meeting as presented. There was no January meeting.) The motion carried with all ayes. 3: VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a.. Athletic Associations None were present at this meeting. b ,Staff. Rick Busch spokeabout the situation regarding the, demand for more baseball. fields and pre ented the following information to the commissioners and, staff: When the Plymouth playfields were built in 1981, the Plymouth -Wayzata Baseball. Association abandoned the two excellent B-ball/C-ball; size fields at the West Medicine Lake Community CluL, abandoned Gullickson, B-ball/C-ball field at the: District 284 Administration building property, abandoned Klaprich B- ball/C-ball field in Wayzata, and substantially reduced their usage of the ballfields at Wayzata West Junior High. Also,, the Babe Ruth baseball field at Ridgemount (Wayzata East) was. converted to a soccer field four years ago, after the Plymouth -Wayzata Baseball Association said they didn't need it. It had been. used on a minimal 'basis since Oakwood and Plymouth Creek Babe Ruth size fields were. built. Also, four years ago, 284 Hockey turned down the City of Plymouth's offer to build an additional rink at Oakwood' sRying they did not need' it: Commissioner Rosen suggested that maybe the baseball associations could make more use of some of the neighborhood parks; Rick. Busch commented that our adult softball program did not evolve until after the playfi;elds were constructed in 1981. The adult program has grown to such proportions that this year, staff decided to tighten eligibility. This will provide more fields for youth. baseball: Mary pointed out to the commissioners that the youth athletic associations do -tot pay for normal day to day use of the fields, and by making the decision to reallocate fields, the City will be losing some revenue: This is not. necessarily bad, but the impact of that decision should be understood,. Commissioner Freels asked staff to prepare a cost report on what the City would lose by turning a percentage of fields over to the youth baseball groups. February 1990`PRAC Minutes rage 2 1 Commissioner Rossu asked if the Wayzata School District was cooperating by keeping up the maintenance on their fields. Staff responded that they are not maintained vell, and they charge for sone maintenance. However, the District claims they are doing their share by providing indoor facilities for our use with no charge to us. Commissioner Beach suggested that perhaps the Plymouth -Wayzata Baseball Association could donate some of the money it raises during the year to the School District to help with the maintainence of the, b+seball, field at Wayzata High: School. Apparently the baseball association is upset with the district; for 4wt maintaining this field in a playable condition. Carol said that,her soccer club gets considerable. use of the fields at the Wayzata West Junior High, because her association paid for some improvements, such as new soccer nets, paint for the soccer goals, etc. Regardicig the need for playfield facilities in northern or southern Plymouth and whether or not Bass Lake Playfield should be built before Parkers Lake,_ Director Blank stated that there are no baseball facilities on the north end of Plymouth, while there exist four major facilities in District 284: Oakwood, Plymouth Creek, Wayzata East Jr. High., and LaCompte. c. Others., There were no presentations: L. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION a. None 5 UNFINISHED BUSINESS a. 1989 Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Annual A MOTION II WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANSON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN TO ACCEPT THE 1989 ANNUAL REPORT AND FORWARD IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. Mary Patterson informed the Commission that Karol Greupner had done all of the graphics for the various divider pages. The Commission thanked staff for their efforts in putting the report together with special recognition of Karol's contribution. 6. NEW BUSINESS I a. Now Plats. None b. 1990 Facility Rental Policies and Fee ap11tdu1es. Rick distributed a summary of playfield rentals that occurred in 1989. Rentals consisted mostly of softball tournament fields at Zachary Playfield_, He indicated that football/soccer fields are rarely rented out. Fees for renting fields are proposed to be increased by about 5% for the year 1990. Commissioner Rosen questioned the large increase proposed for renting scoreboards (from $15/day to $25/day/scoreboard). Rick responded that repairs to scoreboards are very costly, and the large increase is mainly to discourage use. February 1990 PRAC Minutes Pae 3 1 A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BEACH TO APPROVE THE RENTAL POLICIES AND FEES PROPOSED BY STAFF FOR THE YEAR 1990. Commissioner Freels pointed out that the cord "permit" still appears in some of the paragraphs in the Facility Rental Policy and should be changed to "request" or elivr.inated where appropriate.. The motion carried with all ayes. Mary presented the 1990 Parkers Lake Pavilion Mult=-purpose Room Rental Policy and Fee Schedule and noted that these fees were increased by $1 per hour or about 52. She noted that the fee charged to the School Districts was not, increased, because they did not increase, their fees to us. Mary indicated that the proposed increase to rentthepavilion is due tF:. increased staff costs. Regarding the rental application form, Commissioner Freels pointed out that we state the fee to private groups includes an attendant, but we don't mention an attendant for non-profit groups. The policy will be, changed to reflect that an attendant is included with all types of rentals. Bill. Ayshford presented a report. on, the attendance and rentals at the pavilion during 1989. Total recreation program attendance was 4,381 participants. Warming- house and beach atUnndance totaled 35,455. Special event attendance (Fire b Lce Festival and the Water Carnival) totaled 2,950. Rental groups' total attendance was 1,037, with the pavilion being, rented 21 times in 1989, totaling 59.5 hours. Rental income of $906 was reported. Some groups have expressed a desire to serve beer and wine at their functions. Staff has no plans at this time to pursus this option, but wanted 'PRAC to be aware of these requests. A, MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BEACH TO APPROVE THE 1990 PARKERS LAKE PAVILION MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM RENTAL POLICY AND FEE SCHEDULE AS PROPOSED BY STAFF. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. The Commission also thanked Bill Ayshford for his report on: pavilion usage in 1:989. Mary thanked the commissioners for volunteering their time to supervise the bonfire at the Fire and ice Festival. She stated that attendance estimates ranged from 3,500 to 4,000. Chair Edwards requested 'that more hay bales be provided at next year's Festival for people to sit on around the bonfire. Commissioner Freels suggested that for safety reasons, logs should be used as "chairs," because sparks from the bonfire could ignite the hay. Mary briefly updated the Commission on the Olympic Festival Torch Run which will, pass through Plymouth on, July 6. The entry fee is $15 for anyone interested in being one of the runners. Conmicsioner Hanson indicated an interest in participating. The MRPA annual conference is scheduled for February 28 -March 2 at the Radisson Hotel South in Bloomington. A special session aimed at park board members is. scheduled. Mary encouraged interested' commissioners to inform our office if they would like to attend. c. 1990 Park Proiects. Director Blank stated the: the City Council has tentatively approved the 1990 park projects, which include. the Swan Lake neighborhood park;, the Bass Lake Playfieldx a: portion of trail along, West Medicine Lake Drive and the 46th Avenue trail. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANSON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FREELS TO PROCEED WITH THE 1990 PROPOSED PARK PROJECTS AS PRESENTED IN THE 1990-94 CIP. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL 4YE$. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER. BEACH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON TO kECOMMEND MOVING THE PARKERS LAKE PLAYFIELD TO THE YEAR 1990 OR 1991, AND TO RECOMMEND HIRING A CONSULTANT TO DO A FEASIBILITY' STUDY ON THE COST TO BUILD THE PARKERS LAKE PLAYFIELD OR A PORTION OF IT.; THE MOTI.ON CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. A MOT41ON WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER FREELS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER, BEACH TO RECOMMEND THE ALLOCATION OF $10,000 TO IMPROVE SIX BASEBALL FIELDS FOR USE THIS SUMMER. THE MOTION CARRIED {WITH ALL AYES=. Z. COMMISSION PRESENTATION' Chair Edwards shared a. sample of playground surface material called "Tire Turf" that she: had picked up at the National Recreation and Parks Association. Congress in San Antonio, 'Texas. Claims are that it is safe: and costs less than pea graved. Commissioner Freels expressed his feelings that he would like some direction from the City Council on how to proceed with the community center at this time, It was the general consensus of the entire Commission that direction is needed from the City Council on this subject. 8. STAFF COMMUNICATION None. 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned.at 8;32 p.m. r.. Crov-Nassan Trailhead Hyland Mills Ski Chalet Weekday Daytime Business meeting) Weekday Evening Weekend (Fri.. Sat.. Sun. and Holidays) Event Setup Weekend 2 -hour setup time Additional time Noerenbero Gardens French Recreation Center Weekday Daytime Weekday Evening (N -TW) Weekend (Friday p.m.. Saturday. Sunday) Weekday Daytime Weekday evening (W -TM) Weekend (Friday p.m.. Saturday. Sunday) Weekday Daytime Weekday Evening (M-TH) Weekend (Friday p.m.. Saturday. Sunday) 50.00/3 hours 1.00 additional hour (includes parking) Accommodates 2S 200.00 damage deposit required) Fees Include parking Seating Capacity; 180 150.00 (no alcohol or entertainment) 250.00 (with alcohol or entertainment) 5300.00 (no alcohol or ente+'tainment) 400.00 (with alcohol or entertainment) 300.00 First 4 hours (no alcohol or entertainment) 3 75.00 each additional hour 400.00 First 4 Hours (with alcohol or entertainment) 1.00.00 each additional hour No Charge 7s.00 each hour 15013 hours (Fee includes parking) No cnarge ror renearsal Oakwood Room ($100 damage deposit) Accommodates 100 100/3 -hour minimum. $25 each additional hour 12S/3 -hour minieum. $25 each additional hour 150/3 -hour minieijo. $35 each additional hour Parking fees apply M111s1d. R ($SO damage deposit) Accommodates 30 us/3-hour minimum. $10 each additional hour SO/3-hour minimum. $10 each additional hour 50/3 -hour Ninimpm, $i0 each additional hour Parking tees apply EA&IOW Room damage deposit) Accommodates 45 50/3 -hour minimum. $10 each additional hour 7S/3 -hour minimum. $10 each additional hour 7513-1wr minimum. $10 each additional hour Parking fees apply Complimentary Use of t1liM epin Parks. Meeting Facilities Policy. Local community service\ groups and governmental agencies are eligible to apply for use of Nonnopin Paras' meeting facilities, excluding Nyland Hills Ski Chalet. at no charge for special business related meetings at locations when the facility is norwilly open. These groups must pay a damage deposit and abide by the same rkgulatio+s as groups who rent the room.. In order to be eligible. the groupcs) must provide a tax-exempt number. Reservation staff will indicate no -charge use with "QA" on the permit. Recreation equipment is available on a first-come, first -nerved basis. Groups should arrange for equipment rental in advance call Park Guest Services for infermation at 559-9000. Fees for recreation eou omeot.rental are paid at the time. of use: however. 7 F CITY OF 'PLYMOUTH 3+400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447 TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800 t t MEMO DATE: January 21, 1,987 for January 26 Council Meeting TO: James G. Willis, City Manager FROM: Eric Blank, Director of Parks and Recreation SUBJECT; COMPREHENSIVE PARK PLAN LANGUAGE CHANGES NEIGHBORHOOD PARK DEFINITION Summary: The attached resolution approves the language changes for the definition of neighborhood parks on Page 3 of the Comprehensive Park Plan as recommended by the: Park and Recreation Advisory Commission. Background: At the City Council's request, the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission has re-sriewed and recommended the following revisions to the; definition or standards for neighborhood parks. On; the attached page dated January 1,3, 1987, in legislative format, are the recommended changes by the Park and 'Recreation Advisory Commission.. In summary, the changes suggest that as a minimum, each neighborhood park will have the following items: informal play area play apparatus trails play court park benches signage plant materials waste receptacles Any Other items that are listed as typical facilities on the list may be considered for inclusion as. part of the neighborhood involvement, in the park, design process. Staff concurs with the recommendation of.'the Par's and Recreation Advisory Commission and recommends that the City Council approve the recommended language changes as submitted by PRAC. The first neighborhood park meetings Amhurst and Rolling Hills Parks) are scheduled for Wednesday, January 28 If this document is approved, it is our intentiOTI to make copies available to the people in attendance at the meetings so that they ha'a clear understanding, of exactly what the City's policy with regards to neighborhood; parks is. Eric J Blank, Director Parks and Recreation ds attachments CITY OF PLYMOM Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, a meeting of the City Council of the City of Plymouth, Minnesota,was ield onLige day of 19 The following embers were present: The following members were sent; is a pt on' introduced the following ".solution and moved, RESOLUTION NO. 87- A RESOLUTION APPROVING COMPREHENSIVE PARK PLAN LANGUAGE CHANGES WHEREAS, the City Council requested the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to review the neighborhood park standards, and WHEREAS:., the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission has reviewed and recommended language changes with regards to the standards for neighborhood parks, and WHEREAS, the City Council has reviewed the recommended changes as submitted - by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission, and WHEREAS', the Director of Parks and Recreation concurs with the recommendations as put forth by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PLYMOUTI, MINNESOTA, that the: Comprehensive Park. System Plan standards for neighborhood park development are hereby revised as submitted by the Commission and; dated' January 13, 1987, The motion for the adoption of the foregoing Resolution was duly seconded by , and upon vote being taken thereon, the fol ow0g- voted favorthe—ni-M.- MW owing voted against or a sta Aereupon the Resolution was declared duly pass a opt RAA; AtA A1tA PROPOSED Develo Sent Timing; begin general site development as early as practical after acquisition Degree of: development: _- low -to -moderate Typical, facilities/activities: (* items are minimum standard for neighborhood parks) Active (not lighted) informal play area trails sledding play apparatus shuffleboardfree skating sand/pea gravel - horseshoes (lighted) volleyball * playcourts Passive: shaded turf area * -,park benches picnic tables Support utilities: non -potable water - limited parking only, lighting (for skating) primarily for handicapped signage * - waste receptacles plant materials open air shelter Other Comments may be part of larger park - not required in industrial, may be decentralized wits{n neighborhoods neighborhood as long asnolittle or no programming one parcel is less than 5 acres COMMUNITY PLAYFIELD Sipe and Function Sex7ice area:. 1 community (driving neighborhood) approximately 1 to 1.5 mile radius) Spatial standard: 2.5 developed acres/1,000 population (ultimate) Size: minimum 20 developed acres; maximum 65 developed aces Type of use: intensive, active, formal, programmed Clientele: primary emphasis on ages 8-50 Functional characteristics: almost entirely recreation 3 1/13/87 PROGRAM REVENUE/EXPENSES THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 1989 SUMMARY Revised Exp Exp Rev Rev Category Exp Bdgt Bdgt YTD X Bdgt YTD 75524 88% 1930 863 45% 201 Total Programs. 99898 85953 202 Total Programs 380795 361241"41,2227 114% 307091 355492 116% TOTALS 480693 447194 487751 109% 30902.1 356355 115% QUARTERLY RECAP lat 2nd 3rd 4th X of Bdg,ted Qtr Qtr Qtr Qtr Egt YTD Total Revenue 307091. 1236.34 229894 310436 356355 116% Total Fxpenses 447194 49260 124782 24204+ 487751. 109% NET 14010.3 74374 105112 68390 131864 94% PROGRAM REVENUE/'EXPENSES THROUGH DECEMBER, 31, 1989 202 Revised Exp Exp Rev Rev Category Exp Bdg`t Bdgt YTD Bdgt YTD 112112 Pavilion Rental 0 0 261 0% 0 1186 0% 150 Aerobic Dance 1777 174.5 38 2% 2000 32 2% 153 Arts 6 Craft* 1039 946 1825 193% 600 2017 336% 164 LeBody Shop 1342.3 1312.5 18138 138% 14000 1.9264 138% 175 Family Activit 1,374 1309 66.5 51% 1100 664 60% 178 Clubs 511 492 122 25% 335 0 0% 185 Youth Dance 4753 4635 5.615- 1.21% 4670 7235 155% 190 Drama/Music 703 813 560 69% 900 1098 122% 1.92 Firearm_[Snowmbl 659 619 636 103% 504 531 105% 193 Body Cond/Yoga 2786 2537 2844 112% 2550' 3058 120% 200 Gymnastics 12243 11872 10594 89% 11370 9765 86% 201 Hocus Pocus 404 385 23 6% 350 0 0% 212 Ja.zzercise 33396 31998 35075 110% 32300 33425 103% 213 Jr Jazzercise 1337 1259 2183 1,73% 1100 2417 220% 216 Am Karate 3,708 3586 3879 108% 3344 3829 1151 218 Metro Arts Grant 1323 1180 3770 319% 500 2.941 588% 2,35 Sailing 2061 1976 1341 68% 1963 1648 84% 236 Total Workout 2098 1954 4253 218% 2400 4034 168% 238 Jr Danceline 668 614 70 11% 504 0 0% 250 Special Events 8237 8026 8267 103% 3129 1.453' 46% 252 Fire 6 Ice 2328 2,169 2943 136% 1853 1714 92% 254 Fun Fitness, 1384 1272 2554 201% 1293 2315 179% 290 New Programs 6255 7315 4,409 60% 3000 2105 70% 291 Systems Improve 0 0 327 0% 0 0 0% TOTALS 1424.67 9982:7-110392----111% 89765:- 100731r--- 112% PROGRAM REVENUE, EXPENSES THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 1989 202Revised Exp Exp % Rev Rev % J ., T., 010 Picnic Basket. 636 578 187 32% 230 235 102% 050 3 -Man BB 7278 6201 6248 101% 4440 5388 121% 051 5 -Man BB 9610 8946 8592 96% 7500 6630 88% 052 Open Gym BB 1699 1447 1792 124% 720 1304 181% 055 Ice Skating Inst, 791 697 628 90% 512 691 135% 060 4 -Man FB 2122 1893 1937 102% 1580 1,645 104% 064 Golf Inst 5329 470.8 5137 109% 3456 4582 133% 071 T Ball/Youth SB 16389 15052 14329 95% 11880 12233 103% 072 Ball Skills 1618 1596 1725 108% 1440 1758 122% 016 Broomball Lg 1334 1329 1,021 77% 960 788- 82% 078 4 -Man Hockey ?gig 1050-- 928_ 898, 97% 600 583 97% 080 Tennis Instr 8289 7777 10454 134% 5760 9393 163% 081 Adult Tennis Lg 931 781 786 101%. 480 536 11.2% 082 Jr,Tennis Lg 783 723 1591 220%' 600 1740 290% 083 Tennis Tourn, 727 658 728 111% 480 597 124% 085 Instr Soccer 735 652 854 13.1% 800 726 91% 091 Adult VB Instr 466 510 74 15% 400 0 0% 09`2 Open Gym VB 7`72 682 685 100% 500 1055 2.11% 093 Power VB 3420 3145 3008 96% 2520 2680 106% 094 Unoff VB Lg 7337 6620 7167 108% 5150 6673 130% 101 Wrestling Lnstr 283 269 75 28% 240 70 29% 10.5 Summer Softball 86274 83926 100871 120% 73040 79331 109% 106 Fall SB Lg 84.32 8308 8099 97% 8880 11295 127% 108 SB Tournaments 1585 1311 2779 212% 5434 2609 48% 110 Fishing, Seminar 232 204 124 61% 150 95 63%; 11.3 Field Rental 695 10332 4-22 47, 6750 10023 148% 114 Park Concessions 2695 2399 2894 121% 1800 2876 160% TOTALS !-171512 171672 183105 107% 146302 165536 113% PROGRAM REVENUE/EXPENSES' THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 1989 202 Revised Exp Exp Rev Rev Category Exp Bdgt Bdgt YTD Bdgt YTD 086 Indoor Soccer 0 0 98 0% 0 765 0% 087 Fall Soccer 25490 25373 24943 98% 14300 15554 109% 090 Wallyball 1166 1073 1643 153% 1360 1869 137% 158 Beach Concess, 6929 8630 7498 87%, 8400 5717 68% 174 Children's Trips 6697 6335 6297 99% 5214 5755 110% 162 Ski Lessons 626 584 2228 382% 1508 2200 146% 186 Disc Day Camp 0 0 5697 0% 0 9327 0% 187 Exp Day Camp 3337 3004 3980 132% 1860 3335 179% 208 Norse Care 1348 1297 391 30% 1200 242 20% 251 Gym, Swim, Movie 2338 21.59 2681 124% 1800 2572 143% 260 Swimming Instr 64165' 27993 48679 174% 24383 2968.0 122% TOTALS 94396 76448 104135 136% 60025 77016 1,28% t PROGRAM REVENUE/EXPENSES THROUGH DECEMBER 31 1989' 202 Revised Exp Exp Rev Rev Category Exp Bdgt Bdgt YTD Bdgt YTD 111 Pyre -school Spec. 161% 2213 2256 2864 127% 1525 2462 160 Bits & Pieces 7`03 648 765 121% 416 757 182% 196 Getaway Trips 399 3893 4675 120% 3600 42.2.5 117% 205 Plym Pedestr.i.ans 449 422 416 99% 110 140 127% 223 Play Pals 1944 2996 1833 61% 2700 2256 84% 225 Playtime Disc. 1733 1763 2743 156% 1568 1638 104% 255 Teeny 'Tumblers 1379 1316 1279 97% 1080 731, 68% TOTALS 1242Or 111% 13294-14595 11-0-- 1- 00999- 9-9------------ 1 12209 z PROGRAM,REYENUE/EXPENSES THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 1989 201 Revised Exp Exp Rev Rev % Category Exp Bdgt: Bdgt STD Bdgt YrD 001 Warming H.;uses- 19343 18469 15327 83% 002 Adaptj a 2631. 2534 2447 97% 003 Adept Mainstream, 1693 1609 692 43% 007 Beaches 43749 32686 31089 95% 011 PITS 9976 9475 8035 85% 015 Puppet Wagon 7900 7458 6629 89% 130 69 53% 016 Senior Citizens 6328 6203 607`8 98X: 022 Special Events 8278 7519 5227 70% 18`00 794 44% 201 TOTALS ^ 948981-- 85953 75524 88% 1930 863 45% PROGRAM REVENUEIEXPENSES THROUGH DECEMBER 31. 1989 Wayzata Exp Exp Rev Rev Programs Bdgt YTD Bdgt YTD 301 Beach 7766 8817 114% 0 0% 360 Swim 'Lessons 1156 993 86% 18500 615 3% 303 Tennis 399 140 35% 864 783 91% 399 Admin Fees 0 0 0% 6615 2500 38% TOTALS 15% 1 i 9321 9950 T -0-7i 2347-9---3i48