HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 04-13-1989Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission.
April 13,;1989, 7:30 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Call to Order`
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Visitor Presentations
a. Athletic Associations
b. Staff
C. Others
4.. Report on Past Council Action
a. Approved community center program and budget
5. Unfinished Business
a. Mooney take plat - Lundgren Bros. Homes tree memo from March packet)
b. Comprehensive plan - update
c. West Medicine Lake Drive trail update
d. Plymouth Creek parking lot expansion update
e. Communitycenterupdate
f. Report on recreation survey Mary Patterscn
6. New Business
a. New plats
b. Date for annual park tour
c., Kilmer Park playground
d,
7i Commission Presentation
8. Staff Communication
9. Adjournment
Next Regular PRAC Meeting May 11, 1989
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Minutes of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting
March 9, 1989
Page 10
Present: Chair Edwards, Commissioners Rosen,.Anderson, Beach, LaTour, Hanson,
staff Anderson, Blank, Patterson and Pederson
Absent: Commissioner Freels
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Edwards called the March meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.. in the.
Council Conference Room.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Leach and seconded by Commissioner
Hanson to approve the minutes of the February meeting, as presented. The
motion carried with all ayes.
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Associations. None were present at this meeting.
b. gaff. Cindy Anderson talked about the three winter ski trips she had
just completed, which had a total participation of 219., Two of the
trips were to Afton Alps .and the third went to Spirit Mountain. She
indicated that our department would be running the Plymouth Middle
School Ski Club in 1990 at the request of the Middle School
administration. Special events coming up during Easter break include
Plymouth Pirates, an afternoon program at Parkers Lake Pavilion; two
full day Gym, Swim 6 Movie Days on the 20th and 21st of March at
Wayzata West Jr. High:; a visit to a maple syrup farm, and an afternoon
of horseback riding.
Cindy informed the commissioners that Wayzata West JutY__: "sigh's pool
will, be closed this summer for repairs., therefore, creating bigger
demand for lessons at Wayzata East. In an attempt to mc, -jt that
demand, more ';essons will be offered at East and at the beaches.
Mary announced that summer school programs at both Wayzata and
Robbinsdale schools will be very limited this summer with Robbins.dale
offering only n remedial program with no busing, and Wayzata offering
le53 classes as well, with bus pick-ups at designated locations.
Mary stated that the recreation survey questionnaire results are still
being tabulated at this time.
She reminded commissioners of the Ethnic Dance Theatre performance at
Wayzata Senior High on April 22.
c. Oth2rs. None were present at this meeting.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION`
a. Park Facilities Rental Policy. Approved by Council.
Manch 1989 PRAC Minutes
Page 11"
b. Annual Report, Approved by Council.
c. Selection of Comasunity Center Architect. Council approved BWBR.
d'. Oakwood Playground. Council approved $10,000 payment,
e. Final Payment Parkers Lake Pavilion. Council authorized final
payment. Thereis a one-year warranty on the building.
5... UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Comprehensive Plan. A resident Living in the Barger Development,
north of County Road 10 off Hemlock Lane, is unhappy about not having
a neighborhood park in her area. Director Blank indicated to the
Commission that this area is not designated to have a neighborhood
park in the comprehensive plan He indicated that there will be a
major park one block east of her neighborhood in the future.
b. Plat North of flooney Lake. This item is being held over to the April
meeting.
c. West Medicine Lake Drive Trail. Strgar-Roscoe has not begun working
on this yet.
d. Plymouth Creek Parking Lot ExQansion. This project is on schedule.
Bidding will be in early April.. Project is to be done by June 1.
Commissioner Rosen asked about the tennis courts proposed for Plymouth
Creek Park and wondered why they weren't going to be constructed in
1989, since they were approved in the '89 CIP. Director Blank
responded that the location of they community center will play a big
part in where these -tennis courts should be built and that it may not
be feasible to move forward on this project at this particular time.
This item will continue to be discussed at future meetings and results
recorded in the minutes,. This issue is a concern to Commissioner
Rosen, and he wants to make sure it 'doesn't get sidetracked.
e. Kilmer Park Improvements, A resident wrote to Director Blank
requesting improvements in this park. Director Blank indicated that
20,,000 was available for this purpose. A letter will be sent to the
neighborhood asking for their suggestions on what improvements should
be done. One of the concerns dealt with the height of the basketball
hoop.' Right now it's low enough that people can jump up and hang from
It. Regulation height is 10 feet. Director Blank will ask residents
if they prefer to have the basketball hoop raised to 10 feet or Left
at eight feet. Basketball hoops in some of our other neighborhood
parks are less than 10 feet at this time, and commissioners questioned
whether or not they should all be raised to regulation height. It was
suggested that maintenance crews start raising them to 10 feet and see
if we get any phone calls objecting to this.
March 1989 PR40 Minutes
Page', 12
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. New Plats, Director Blank `indicated '`that 0e Swan make developers are
not in agreement With staff, over the issue of the neighborhood park in
terms, of size anal location. This plat will be discussed at the April
i5ee ting,,
7 COKIISSION PRESENTATION
Copies of "How to Survive as a Park and Recreation Board Member" were,
distributed. to the commissioners. Chair Edwards encouraged overyone to
read it.
8 STAFF COMMUNICATION
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Director Blank stated that there is. going to be a shortage of fields this
year because soccer and baseball registration has increased. Staff is
encouraging the, use of neighborhood parks for practice and may also have
to encourage some Friday night games.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:40 p.m,
IMPERIAL HILLSHOMEOWNERS ASSOCIX1710N
P.O. Box 94
Wayzata, Minnesota 5539.1
March 23, 1959
Plymouth city Council
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, Minnesota 55447
Dear Council N-lembers:
At the: annual rneeting of the imperial Hills Homeowners Association UHHA), on February
27, 1989, the Reiser farm development plans, as proposed by Lundgren.` Brothers
Construction, Inc., were discussed. The quorum of homeowners present voted unanimously
to have the IHJA Board of Directors send a letter to the. Plymouth City Council, stating
the desires and concerns of the IHHA. This letter documents those agreed to desires.
and', concerns of the I13HA.
The Ii- HA quorum unanimously voted to support the City of Plymouth's desire for Block
4, Lot 20 to be maintained as a park preserve, rather than a buildable lot. Bawd on
homeowner eye -witness, the iyooney Lake high water mark shown on the proposals,
does not ,accurately reflect the higher water levels in the recent years, Based on those
ho reowniw eye -witness, the driveway proposed for Block 4, Lot 20 would have been
underer water as recently as 1980 and 1987, due to the water level, of Mooney Lake..
Be it resolved: that the members of the Imperial Hills Homeowners Association support
the City of Plymouth, in their efforts to secure Block 4,. loot 20 as a park preserve.
If we can provide more Information on what was discussed at the IHHA annual rneeiing,
please call. It is our goal to work in cooperation with the City and the developers, to
insure a development which enhances the City of Plymouth and Imperial Hills.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
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Dann Wassink, President
Imperial Hills Homeowners Association
Board of Directors, Imperial Hills Homeowners Association
Donn Wassink President Eilene Berg
Lois Kemp, Vice President Ron Houser
Lyn. Hintermeister, Secretary Becket' Rohde
Jeff Volkiman, Treasurer Kate Strnad
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April 7., 1989
Mr. Eric Blank-
Plymouth lankPlymouthParksDirector
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55.447
Dear Eric;
It is my understanding that the Parks Department's proposed acquisitions
within the Reiser Property: will be discussed at the April. 13, 1959, FRAC
meeting, While. I will be in attendance at this meeting, I feel that it is
appropriate, given our disagreement regarding your suggested acquisition
of Lost 20 for park, that you fully understand our position in advance and
have an opportunity to discuss the attached legal opinion with the City
Attorney,
I believe because of this legal opinion that the consequences of our
disagreement could have implications for the City which go beyond the
issue of whether Lot 20 would be a prudent acquisition. It therefore
might be wise to meet again, perhaps with .Tim Willis and the City Attorney
in attendance, prior to the Thursday, ?PAC meeting;.
To reiterate, our basic points are these;
I. Proposed Lot 20 is a very large, very valuable Lakeshore homesite,
It is the only wooded lot which Lundgren Bros, will have and is very
private and scenic. It will contain a point and shoreline on.both
Mooney Lake and the Mooney Lake wetland,
2. The neighborhoods adjacent to the Reiser Property have already been
well endowed with parks and, according to the Comprehensive Plan,
need no more.
3. Some of the neighboring homeowners are accustomed to being allowed
to walk down to the lake because the Reisers never sought to prevent
them. These neighbors would like to City to acquire Lakeshore for
park so they can continue to do so;
4; AQ: an alternative to the use of Lot 20 for park, Lundgren Bros. has
p0posed to construct, at its own expense, an overlook platform: in the
Mooney Take wetland. This platform would be high enough to permit
viewing of `Doth the lake and the wetland, have benches, be wheelchair
accessible, and be Located, where public safety personnel could observe
it.
April 7, 19$9
Mr, Eric Blank
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5. if, after evaluating Lundgren Bros.' proposed alternative, the desires
of the neighboring homeowners and the overall park needs of the City,
FRAC and the City Council determine that the acquisition of Lot 20
would better serve the public interest, Lundgren. Bros, will no
contest the acquisition. But Lundgren Bros_, does eNpect to be fairly
compensated for the value of the land it is giving up.
If you have any, questions, suggestions or need for further information,
please call me. For your convenience, I have enclosed a summary of our
concerns about the use of Lot 20 as park and a photocopy of our overlook
plan, in addition to, the aforementioned legal opinion.,
Please contact me if you wish to schedule the meeting I have suggested;
Very truly yours,
LUNDGRW BROS. C,NSTRUCTION, INC,
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Michael A. Pflatun
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Enclosures
cc; James C, Willis
Bruce D, Malkerson
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LUNDGREN"BROS. CONSTRUCTION'S, CONCERNSREGARDING
THE ACQUISITION' BY PLYMOUTH
OF PROPOSED LOT ;20 OF THE REISER PROPERTY
1, The parks element of the current Comprehensive Plan does. not-
a, Propose ,a park on the Reiser Farm property,
b,, Propose any additional neighborhood or, special use parks
in either of the walking neighborhoods. of which the property
is a part.: (Neighborhoods #31 and #34)
c'. Identify any recreational deficiency for which this proposed
acquisition is needed,
2. The City's Trail. Plan shows a, Hike and Bike trail running West from
Walnut Grove Lane to the lake. Lundgren Bros, has proposed a sake
overlook platform on the east shore of the Mooney hake lagoon, where
the trail would reach the water and has offered to build this overlook
for the City.
3, The Park Director has not identified a need or purpose for this park..
He has suggested that it would be left as a natural preserve which
would allow the public access to the Lakeshore,
4, The proposed subdivision will have a net density of 1..6 dwellings per
acre, which is tower than the parks plan anticipated and equates to
lower than expected demand on the existing park facilities,
S, The; proposed, subdivision has no need for another park:
a. Its lots have ample backyard play areas;
b. It will have a homeowners association owned landing
canoes and sailboats for use by the members;
c. It is adjacent to Green. Oaks Park (6,8acres) and is
only one-half mile from. Imperial Hills Park (9,1 acres):
6, Imperial: Hills already contains a 9,1 acre neighborhood park, and its
homeowners have trail: access to Mooney Lake.;,
7. Greentree We : and Greentree Forest contain a neigi borhood park (Green
Oaks Park -- 6,8 acres) and two special use parks (Greentree West and
Meadowood -- 10,8 acres and 10.0 acres, respectively).
8, Holy Name Lake on County Road 24 in Medina has a public canoe access
and parking, and.is no farther from the majority of Greentree West
residents than is Mooney Lake,
9. The proposed park is unlikely to be widely used 'because it is on
the western boundary of the City and will be accessible only to
pedestrians:
Park on the Reiser Property
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10 'Earlier this year the City raised its Park Dedication Fee from $600 to
825 per lot (a 38% increase) because it did not have enough in its
park acquisition account to fund the purchases which have been
scheduled in accordance with its Comprehensive Flan.. At the expense
of which of these purchases will the acquisition from the Reiser
Property be made?
11, Users of the park will: not be easily observable by neighboring
homeowners or law enforcement personnel. Potential municipal
liability for mishaps in the park and lake should be considered.
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3100 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, _PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
DATE;: March _6, 19+84
TO: PRAC
FROM; Eric J Blank, Director of Parks and Recreation
SUBJECT MOONEY LAKE, PLAT
The attached neap shows the Lundgren Bros., proposed development of the property -
lying between Green Oaks Park and Mooney Lake. On the attached graphic, I
have shown in yellow the: trail outlots for this development. It is my
understanding that Lundgren Bros. is in agreement with our request for this
trail.; The small square colored in purple is the scenic overlook area
Lundgren Bros. has proposed on the northeast corner of Mooney Lake. I do not
believe that. this is adequate public access. I think we should be requesting
dedication of a parcel as depicted in the area in green. The area in green.
above the 100 year flood plain is 63,200 square feet approximately. Including
this with the area in yellow, there is approximately 2.25 acres of park,
dodication. This would be under the 3.4 acres we may request, using the 10%
formula-.
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Currently, the City has secured some type of public access on Mud Lake, Bass
Lake, Schmidt Lake, Swan Lake, Medicine Lake, Parkers Lake; and Gleason Lake.
This leaves only Mooney and Hadley Lakes as significant bodies of water, that
do not have any type of public access at. this time. As you can see by the
configuration of the plat, I'm not proposing any type of access that would be
available for launching boats, etc. This would remain a wooded preserve with
shoreline on the lake that would make a wonderful destination point for a walk
or bike ride:.
Lundgren Bros. have suggested adding a raised observation deck to be built by
them and maintained by the City (sue attached graphics). The deck would be
located just west of the lake overlook easement they proposed for this plat.
Having a deck would certainly be better than no deck. Lundgren Bros. will
have a representative at the PRAC meeting to discuss this proposal.,
It is my recommendation that the. City require a dedication of significant size
on the southeast corner of the Lundgren. Bros. plat on the norOh end of Mooney
Lake.
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377 questionnaires were sent. 232 questionnaires were: returned. 62% return.
Dear Plymouth Resident::
The Plymouth Recreation division is conducting a survey to assess the quality
of programs through Plymouth Park and Recreation. Your comments on the
strengths and weaknesses of our programs will be used to help us improve our
services., Questionnaires are being mailed to a systematic random sample of
Plymouth residents to ensure a representative, response. Your comments are
Important to us. YOUR RESPONSES ARE IMPORTANT EVEN IF YOU HAVE HAD LITTLE OR
NO EXPERIENCE WITH OUR PROGRAMS.,
Thank you for your assistance,
Mary Patterson
Superintendent of Recreation
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Instructions
Please participate; it should take ten minutes or less to answer the
questions. Return vour completed survey in the enclosed envelope by January
27.
The information that you provide is CONFIDENTIAL. Your name will not be used
in any way. The number on the return envelope is there so that we may check
your, name off the mailing list when your survey is completed and returned.
Your response now will save us follow-up cowty later..
If you have questions about the survey, call Mary, Nancy or Donna at 559-2800
x 266, or stop in at:
Plymouth Park and Recreation
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
1. In the past year, have you or a 3. Think back to your experiences with
member(s) of your household park and recreation programs. Howparticipatedinprogram(s) sponsored would you rate these programs and
by Plysnuth Park and Recreation? their instructors supervisors on: 31% Yes
69% No, because see attached circle one number for each question)
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2. In general, how satisfied are you instruction/supervision, 1 2 3 4 5 6
your household) with experiences VP -0, P-4%, F-14%, G-42%, VG -30%, E-9%
provided through Plymouth Park and The extent to which the
Recreation? (circle One) programs 111 t your expectati.ons.1 2 3 4 5 6
1 Very
IP -0, P-'01%, F -16e, G -35a, VG -30%, E-9%
dissatisfied 4; The participant to instructor2Moderatelydissatisfied5% ratio.
3 Slightly dissatisfied 1a -
1 2 3 4 5
VP -1%,P-4%, F-1.6%, G-31%, VG -40%,
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4 Slightly satisfied 9s The convenience of the loca- 5 Moderately satisfied 43• tion, 1 2 3 4 5 6. 6 Very satisfied 39% VP -5a, P -3e, F -9R, G-30$, VG -33$, E721%
The convenience of the time, 1 2 3 4 5 6
l- VP -0, P -3a, F -13i, G-34%, VG -41%, E-10%
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4. Would you recommend Plymouth. Park and 7. Please circle how much you agree or
Recreation programs to others? disagree with each of the following
Circle, one) statements.
1 Definitely not 1%
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2, Probably not. 4% Ch
I Not sure 5% z! z.
4 Probably yes 51%
5 Dollnitely yet 39% Plymouth park and recreation
programs meet the needs of my
Why do you feel that way? see attached. household. 1 2 3 4 5
D -2%, D-6%, N-22%, A-60%,, SA -10%
Plymouth park and recreation
programs aree a good value for
the price, 1 2 3 4 5
To what extent, did you encounter SD -1%, D-3%, N-20%, A-61%, SA -13%
problems in the following areas? Plost instructors/super*visors are
ff sensitive to the needs of Indi-
vidual participants. 1 2 3 4 5
SD -O%, D-1%, N-:33%, A-55%, SA -10%
4L The staff in the park and rec-
CL 0. & reation office are generallyCL0
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Getting accurate information The facilities are
on programs. 0 1 2 3 physically attractive. 1 2 3 4 5
15%, 66%, 15%, 4% SD -1%, D-1%., N-20%, A-55%, SA -22%
Registering for programs, 0 1 2 3 The park & recreation Staff is,
15%, 63%,. 20%, 4% concerned about the safety of
Refunds or transfers. 0 1 2 3 participants. 1 2 3 4 5
51%, 46%, 4%, 0% SD -O%, D -O%, N-22%, A-60%, SA -18%
5a' Why did you rate any of the Above as 8. We participate' in recreation
serious?" see attached., programs offered through: (Check
all that apply.)
16% Hennepin Parks
13% Private clubs
15% YMCA/YWCA
21% Schools
x0o Church
6%- Scouts, Camp Fire, etc.
In order to cover the cost of 9% Youth athletic associations
processing credit card, purchases, we 5% Other (list) see attached.
might need to charge an additional
3 per program fee, (not including
team sports). Knowing this, would
you like to iiave the opportunity to 9. What are your pr.imary sources of
register by phone, through the mail, information concerning Plymouth park
or in person and charge the cost to and recreation programs? Please rank
your major credit cord? (Check one) in their order of importance those
which apply to you. C'1" would. mean
37% yea first, "2" second; and so forth),
E3% No Local newspapers
JA- Local cable station
a§A_ Plymouth on Parade
9% School fliers
12$ Word of mouth
11A_ Direct mailings
Other (explain)
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10., On which day of theweek is it most 12. Please rank the top three among the
convenient for you/your household to following indoor facilities (1-3) in
participate in recreation programs? order of your preference for program
Please rank your top three choices locations, with #1 being most
beginning With one (1) for your first preferred.
preference and so on to three (3). 14% Armstrong High School
41 9irchview Elementary
9 Adults Youth 51 Greenwood a- .-rotary
School Yr Summer School Vr Summer 91 Oakwood Elemk:n,ary
11 Parkers. Lake Pavilion
Monday 121 121 111 131 e% Pilgrim Lane Elementary
Tuesday 151 151 721 20 131 Plymouth Middle School
Wednesday. 13 171 12• 22% 21 Sunset Hill Elementary i
Thursday 161 141 151 14t 51 Wayzata East Jr. High
friday 8% 81 101 5$ 151 Wayzata High School
Saturday 20% 181 261 17% 61 Wayzata West Jr. Nigh
Sunday 15% 16! 14% 101 11% Zachary Elementary
Other
11. At what time is it most convenient` 13. Please rank the top three outdoor
for you/your household to participate. facilities (1-•.3) in order of your
in recreation programs? Please rank preference for program locations,
your top three choices beginning with with #1 being the most preferred.
one (1) for your first preference and
so on to three 3). 61 LaCompte Playfield, 10795 Old
Co. Rd. 15
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Adults Youth 14% Oakwood Playfield, 1.700 Hwy 101
School Yr Summer School Yr Summer 161 Plymouth Playf i1eld, Co- Rd' 18
36th Ave
Before 9 as '71 8% 4% 4% 221 Plymouth Creek, 3625 Fernbrook
t gam -noon 111 14s 1$ 22a Lane,
11ANoon-3pa. l 131 11 221 7t Ridgemount Playfield, 12000
3-6pa 171, 15% Z$ 21 Ridgemount Ave
6-apa 321 29% 1 22% 22% Zachary Playfield, 4355 Zachary
After 6 pa 221 20$ 1-5% 91 Lane
121 Neighborhood Park see attached.
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5 14. In your opinion, which three groups
most lack recreation activities in
the Plymouth area. (Please rank the
first three in order. Place "1" in
front of the group most lacking, and
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F;) so forth.)
9% pre-school children
81 elementary children
6% junior high children
9% senior high children
141 adults
131 families
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11% senior citizens
11% single people
81 tingle parents
i 8% special populations -handicapped
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2% other (please specify)
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15.. I (my household) would .like to see 19. if you have children ages 5-1.8 living
more programs offered by Plymouth at home, what school(s) do they
Park and Recreation in these areas:. attend? see attached,
please check, all appropriate
categories)
o 14 0
o, 0 20. in what quadrant of the City do you.
vui ai x x 0 o v live?(Check one.)
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w w vii cn a 18% Northwest• -N of Hwy 55, W of 494
Arts and Crafts 177 U 8 U 12 5 40$ Northeast -N of Hwy 55, E of 494
Grams -1 5 5 -9 2 _3 0 33% Southwest -S of Hwy 55, W of 494
Dance 19 1 <A- -3 6 6 0 9% Southeast -S of Hwy 55, E of 494
04usc I U1L 1 J 9-
Fitness/1letlness _fi5 15 21. What is your current marital status?
Individual Sports 7 s ],Q 8 jet Check one.)
Sports Instruction _8 11 1 5 7 1 0 17% Single (div/sep and widow included)
Team Sports 8 1.2 12 7 6 1 0 83% Married
Outdoor Appreciation Divorced/Separated
Skills U k 12- 12- 6 -2 14- Widowed
Performing Arts _Q 5 2, _5 4 7 10- QSocialSocialInteraction64' 8 7 7 10 :Z L 23. What is you- age? (Check one.)
One Time Special Events U 5 4 7 14 10 J L 38 18-24
Trips 0 3 5 7 616, lQ 28% 25-34-
Other 50% 35-54
Please explain "other" 10% 55-64
9% 65 b, over
24. What is your sex? (Check one.)'
16.. Do you or does a member of your 406 Male
household have an impairment whish 60% Female
requires special recreation services
from Plymouth Park and Recreation? If you have further comments about your
Check one.) experiences, or additional suggestions,
3% Yes please write them below.
No
Thank you!
16a What would that impairment. be
wheelchair bound, hearing impaired,
4
quadriplegic
17. Does the lack of a babysitter
prohibit your participation in
recreation programs? (Check one.)
12% Yea
87% No
1% occasionally
18.. How many people in each of the
following age groups live in your
household?
i Persons over 55 12% If you wish a personal response to any
6 Adults 6.8% concerns you have expressed, please fill
High school aged 5% in your name and address below.
Junior high aged 4$
Elementary aged 13
Pre-schoolers
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Attachment to Recreation Survey
1. In the past year, have you or a member of your household participated in
programa sponsored by Plymouth Park and Recreation?
Sixty-nine percent said no, and their reasons are stated below:
36% Lack of time
20% No interest
18% Just moved here
7.X'' Unaware of them
5% Using other facilities
5% Lack of nearby facilities
5% Conflicts
2% Lives on Medicine Lake
2% Too busy working paying taxes
A. Would you recommend Plymouth Park and Recreation programs to others?
Reasons people would NOT are listed first.
Too few volunteers
Too many games scheduled
Hates gymnastics
Need more participants
Great time in Jazzercise
Good variety
Well run
Reasonable
Caring instructors
Likes swimming
Convenient and enjoyable
Opportunity to mingle with neighbors
5. To what extent' did you encounter problems in the following areas?
Getting accurate information on programs? Registering for programs?
Refunds orI transfers?
Getting information about sports programs
Slow swimming registration
8. We participate in recreation programs offered through:
Other:
Crystal Park and Recreation
New Hope/Plymouth Baseball
Courage Center
Senior, Citizens
New Hope Swim Club;
Golden Valley and Maple Grove
Dakota County
Work
Arboretum
Hopkins -Minnetonka
r
r
pit
13. Please rank the top three outdoor facilities in order of your preference
for program locations.
Twelve percent listed neighborhood park,. Below is a list of the ones
I
named;
Turtle Lake
Queensland
Shiloh
Schmidt
Imperial Hills
Oakview Pond
Parkers Lake
Lions
Timber Shores
Circle
French (County park)
Green. Oaks
Rolling Hills
Pilgrim. Lane
West Medicine Lake
19. If you have children five to 18 living at home, what schools do they
attend?
49% Wayzata schools
27% Robbinsdale schools
6% Osseo schools
r 5% Private schools
4% Hopkins schools
RESULTS OF KILMER PARK QUESTIONNAIRE ON PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS
A total of 99 questionnaires were, sent to residents surrounding KilmerPark..
Thirteen questionnaires were returned.
Nine of those families have children, totaling 28
Of the 28 children,, four were under five years old, 16 were between the ages
of 6 and 12, and eight were 13 or older.
Five families prefer playground equpment,for elementary children. Eight
families prefer two pieces of r.quipment, one for elementary children and one
for pre-school..
Residents were asked to vote on their top two choices for elements to be
included in the playground. They are listed below in order of preference.
Large climbing structure (12 votes)
Swing set (6 votes)
Spiral slide (4 votes)
Slide (2 votes)
Other (2 votes)*
Tire swing (1 vote)
Cargo net (1 vote)
I,tems written in next to "other" rope b pulley ride, ropes to swing
on, springed; animals-
Six families want the basketball hoop raised to 10 feet, five want it left at
eight feet, two had no preference.
Other comments made are, listed below;
Enlarge playground area.
How about sane signs? How about large speed b+,Ws? How about "no through
traffic"? The biggest problem with the park as we see it is the danger of the
children going to and Fran the park. The drivers on the local roads,
especially to and fran work and school, drive way too fast. Kilmer Lane seems
to be a heavily used feeder road for Highway 169 (old 13). There is also a
daycare center across frau the park. Despite all of the children, drivers
race from stop sign to stop sign and then don't stop. I hope nW child isn't
killed uhi le trying to cross to the park. Swrthing_.needs to be done
Use shall stones in3tead of sand in she playground area;
A path to the park, so children will not have to walk in the street to get
there. Also, because of the traffic a fence around the park would be nice.
It seems the park is under water a lot in the spring. Can something be done
about that?
We hope you inprove the park,because we have been passing this one up for the
one north of it. Add a,picnic table and benches.
We think you do a wonderful job maintaining it year round. We sure appreciate
the ice rink and the great care and attention you give it. It gets lots of
use.
Love the ice rink.
Boards on the hockey rink. Bases on the baseball field.
Secure the garbage can, so it can't be thrown in the creek.
See that your men that are supposed to be working there work instead of
parking day after day. I do babysitting, and I see a lot of laziness going on
there.
Softball diamond with backstop.
Better drainage to prevent flooding. ,Provide paved parking. Clean up creek
bed. Add horseshoe pits. Add lights around perimeter of park. Add speed
bungs to street around park.
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MEMO
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA, 55447
DATE: April 4, 1989
TOz PRAC
FROM: Eric J: Blank, Director of Parks ,.nd Recreation
SUBJECT: PLAYGROUND SURFACES
I have been in touch with Bob Wickland, Director of Administration for
Hennepin Parks, with regard to theplaygroundsurfaces issue. Bob's staff has
been in direct contact with the Consumer Products Safety Bureau. The Safety
Bureau indicated that they have received two different studies from
independent laboratories with conflicting results. Because of this, the
Consumer Products 'Safety Bureau has made only one absolute recommendation with
regard to playground surfaces. They have recommended against the use of
concrete, asphalt or a packed soil surface. The Consumer Products Safety
Bureau indicated that they will be commissioning a major study on playground
safety in 1990, which will further address the issue of playground surfaces.
It is the position of Hennepin Parks that they will continue to use their
existing playground surfaces until the results of the 1990 study are known. I
believe that this is the best course of action at this time, so that we don't
do anything in a rush, which will prove wasteful in the future. I will keep
you informed of any further information on this matter.
EB/np
cc: City Manager
Superintendent of Parks