HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 09-10-1987Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
Regular Meeting of September 10, 1987, 7:30 p.m.
Council Chambers
AGENDA
I. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes.
3. Visitor Presentations
a. Athletic Associations
b. Staff
c. Others
4. Report on Past Council Action
5. Unfinished Business
a. Parkers Lake Pavillion.- Final Plan Approval (Del Erickson)
b. Neighborhood Parks Update - Amhuvst, Rolling Hills, Co. Rd. 61
c. 1987.Trail Projects Update
d... Lions Park Play Equipment
6. New Business
a. New Plats
b. Review Trail and Sidewalk Standards (Referred from City Council)
c. Park Usa$e Policies General Discussion
d. Parkers Lake - Peace Garden Item. Plan Review
e.
7. Commission Presentation
8. Staff Communication
9. Adjournment
Next Meeting - October 8
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
July 9, 1987
Page 25
Present: Chair Edwards, Commissioners Anderson, LaTour, Beach, Rosen and
Bauman; Councilmember Zitur; staff Blank, Patterson, Pederson and
Tilley. and Del Erickson, architect
Absent: Commissioner Reed
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Edwards called the July meeting to order at 7:34 p.m. in the Council
Chambers.
2 APPROVA14 OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Bauman and seconded by Commissioner Rosen
to approve the June minutes as presented.. The motion carried with all ayes..
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Associations. None were present at this meeting.
b. Staff. Mary Patterson introduced Mary Tilley as the new recreation
specialist, who has replaced Ruth Brown, and briefly reviewed her
background. Mary Tilley then spoke for, a few minutes to the Commissioners.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIh ACTION
a. Change Order.. Council approved a change order on the neighborhood parks
which involved raising a manhole at Rolling hills Park.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. 1988-92 CIP. Director Blank distributed revised copies of the 1988-92
CZP to the. Commission and briefly reviewed the proposed changes. Changes
in 1988 included removing the tennis courts from Plymouth Creek Park
and replacing them with a soccer field, and increasing the money budgeted
for trails. Changes in 1989 included transferring $50,000 for Swan. Lake
acquisition from Federal Revenue Sharing over to neighborhood parks.
dedication account and adding the tennis courts to Plymouth Creek Park
from 1988). Changes in 1990 include moving money from the Public Works
Reserve fund to: neighborhood part: dedication for the Bass Lake Playfield.
The 1991 and 1992 CIP remained the same as originally presented at the
May Commission meeting.
Commissione- Rosen questioned the development of the St. Mary's
neighborho.-' park in 1988, because of its close proximity to Sunset Hill
Elementary ,,tttioo1 playground. Director Blank explained that it will serve
a different .;eighhorhood than Sunset. Commissioner Beach then questioned
why the Bzss Lake Playfield is proposed for development before the Parkers
Lake Playfield. Director Blank responded that he feels the northwest
part of Plymouth is developing rapidly, and they will need the playfield
sooner. Right now there are no fields in that area, while the southern
part of Plymouth is able to use Oakwood, Ridgemount and Plymouth Creek.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LATOUR AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BEACH.
TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REVISED 1988.-92 CIP AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
The motion carried with all ayes.
PRAC Minutes
July 9, 1987'
Page 26
b. Parkers Lake Building Update. Del Erickson was present to review
revised design plans for the Parkers bake Pavillion. Several drawings
detailing the Pavillion were displayed on the wall which commissioners
discussed at length. Building materials were reviewed including
exterior surfaces, roofing, and flooring. Overall dimensions as well
as room dimensions and width of the concession windows were discussed,
also. Mary Patterson briefly explained the many uses proposed for the
multi-purpose room and discussed, the possibility of using room dividers
at certain times, so that two different groups could make use of the
room at the same time. Del Erickson then explained how revised designs
have changed the budget for this building, and with the added alternates
wood pile and deck observation platform, picric shelters, and air curtain
screens) included, the new total cost estimate is $364,700. Add to this
a recommended 5% contingency and the total estimated budget $382,900.
Commissioners then questioned the $50,000 budgeted for picnic shelters
and wondered if something a little less fancy could be considered in order
to reduce: that cost r,.nd the difference to the pavillion. Del Erickson
indicated he could redesign the picnic shelters in an attempt to reduce the
cost. Chair Edrdrds asked Del to bring samples o -F shingles to the next.
meeting.. He will also be coloring in a couple of the drawing, and
mounting them on boards for display at the Parkers Lake Grand Ope:ling.
c. Neighborhood Parks Update. Director Blank gave a short review of each
park site. He expects that they will all be completed on schedule.
d. Parkers Lake Grand Opening Schedule. Mary Patterson distributed fliers
of the Grand Opening schedule of, events. She asked the Commissioners
to gather just west of the playground area at 1:30 for the dedication
of that playground. Mary indicated that the Medicine Show Music Company
would begin performing at 1:00, followed by the dedication of the
playground at 1:45, with the ribbon cutting ceremony set for 2:30 near the
three flag poles and ponding area. At 2:45 the In the Heart of the Beast
Puppet and Mask Theatre will perform in the beach area, followed by the
Barbary Coast Dixieland band. Other activities will be going on throughout
the afternoon, including the ".Life. Be In .t." water carnival and
paddleboat rides. Mary asked commissioners to volunteer to help in the
area of food/concessions and patrolling the paddleboat rides. She
indicated that all food itL,ns will be sold for 5t in keeping with the
tradition of Victorian times. Barbara Edwards, Carol Beach, Rick Rosen,
and Judy LaTour vol.unteerFd to help.
Commissioners asked if parking arrangements will be made for them. Mary
said she would check into the possibility of everyone meeting at the
public works building and carpooling to the park. She will also find
out if parking will be permitted along Niagara Lane and if it's being
prohibited on County Road 6. Director Blank announced that the 114• -car
parking lot across County Road 6 is now completed and will be used
the day of the grand opening as well as the grassy area surrounding this
new parking lot, which will be used for overflow parking. Staff is
expecting somewhere between 1,000 and 1,500 visitors. Commissioners were
encouraged to wear Victorian=period costumes if they could come up with
them...
PRACMinutes
July '9, 1987
Page 27
e. 1987 Trail Projects Update. Work along Fernbrook Dane from County Road 9
to Highway 55 will begin Monday, July 13. Easement negotiations are still
being made along Highway 101 and on Fern rook from.Highway 55 to County
Road 6 Total cost for trail work is estimated at $160,000
f. Lions Park Play Equipment. Director Blank had. nothing new to report on
this item.
g. Plymouth Creek Park Planning Update. Director Blank distributed copies of
a letter from Paul Fjare outlining his reasons for choosing site 3 as the
best location for the community center. Those reasons are: acces,sability
both for vehicular and pedestrian traffic because of its location on a
major collector street (Plymouth Boulevard); visibility, again because of
its location on Plymouth Boulevard; and its relationship to the present
City Center and future senior housing. Although the commissioners are in
agreement that site 3 is the most suitable, several felt that it will be
very difficult to acquire this land. Because of this, they *wondered if
anything prohibits building on site 1. Director Blank said no, and
elaborated.further that soil tests have been done on site 1, and it is
suitable for building the community center. Commissioners then discussed
the feasibility of building on site 2, but were discouraged from doing
this by ,Councilman Gitur, because of the many trees that would have to be
destroyed. He indicated that some council members shared his feelings
on this, and he also felt that the community would be; quite unhappy if
trees were destroyed unnecessarily. Nothing definite was decided, and
this item will continue to be on.future agendas.
6. NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business to discuss.
7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION
Chair Edwards commented that the Edinborough tour was quite impressive, and
she: encouraged FRAC members to visit this facility if they get a chance.
8._ STAFF COMMUNICATION
Director Blank announced that no regular meeting is scheduled for August, but
if necessary, a special meeting could be called later in the month to discuss
the Parkers hake Pavillion.
9i ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m
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The review of preliminary applications. for 1968 State Bonding and land and Water
Conservation Fund (LAWCON) Outdoor Recreation Grants has been complete'. This review,
by representatives from this office, was conducted in accordance with state and federal
laws and administrative rules. Factors taken into consideration in the review s,td ranking
were derived from the findings of the State Comprehensive Outdoor Recreation Plan. Those
factors included site suitability, location/accessibility, park design, interorganizational
cooperation, comprehensive planning, and demographics.
Competition for the limited funds was very intense. Of the, 147 applications (valued at over
18.0 million) received this year,, only, 28 can be recommended for $1.5 milalon in available
funds. Unfortunately, your application did not rank high enough to be recon mended for
further grant consideration this year: There are simply not enough dollars available to fund
all applications. Funds for outdoor recreation projects are derived from appropriations made
by the U.S. Congress through the LAWCON program and by the State Legislature through
Capitol Bonding.
If you desire additional information regarding your current application or would like
assistance on a future application, please contact the Outdoor Recreation Grants- Section of
this office at (6,12) 296-5005.
4e thank you for your interest in these programs and are sorry that your application did
not rank high enough for further- consideration this year.
Sincerely;
Gretchen L. Blank, Director -
Outdoor Recreation Grants Section
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3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD- PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: September 11, 1987
TO Jamey G. Willis, City Manager
FROM: Eric Blank, Director of Parks and Recreation`..
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SUBJECT: Lions Playground Equipment
On Thursday, September 10, I spoke by phone with Donna Schmidt and Pam Bruzek,
both from the Lions. Park neighborhood. T indicated to both of them that
I felt that Pam had raised some legitimate concerns on the equipment selection
that deserved further review before a decision is made by the Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission. I told them that I would be recommending that the Park
Commission lay over for one month any decision with regards to the play
equipment for Lions Park. I indicated that I would convene a meeting with
Mrs. Schmidt, Mrs. Bruzek, and other interested members of the neighborhood
to allow them :an opportunity to go through the manufacturers catalogs in an
effort to identify other possible choices of playground equipment. I hope
to set this meeting up the week of September 14.
Mrs. Bruzek was in attendence at the Thursday -night Park, and. Recreation
Advisory Commission meeting. She indicated that upon further review of
the playground equipment by area residents, that if the majority wish to
proceed with the equipment as originally selected, she world not object;. I
will keep you informed of any further details on this subject,
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RES;::LTS OF LIONS PARK IMPR3VEMEA:S QUESTIONNAIRE
Please indicate the ages of family members by placing an "i" on the appropriate
line: 2 senior citizens 13 jur.;or hig
29 adults 19 eler-entary
5 high school. 19 pre-school
Flace an "Y" next to the facilities you mould like to see considered:
23 creative climbing apparatus
12 tube slide
10 wave slide
20 spiral slide
1: cargo nets
10 tire swinc
13 bridces
4 fireman's hole
10 walk
8
rope
horizontal ladder
Other: 4 swing set
5 sand diggers
2 tennis courts
1 walking path
1 picnic area
1 monkey_ bars
1 cable ride
1 wadinc •r:ool
Of the items above, list the three most _m ortant to your family:
18 spiral slide
17 creative climbing apparatus
6 roue walk
5 -tire swing
y swine set
4 bridges
3 _cargo nets
3 sand diggers
3 horizontal ladder
2 wave slide
1 tennis courts
I walking path
1 monkey bars
1 fireman's pole
1 tube slide
1 _roller slide
1 cable ride
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ture is a mufti -dimensional and multi -functional
climber The compact and condensed deck system
direction, including theaccessesactivitiesinevery
Trackride, Spiralslide, Slidechute and Treswing. The
complexity of this structure will hold the children's
interest and keep them coining back.
5 Decks
3 Solid Log Walls
Treswing
31 x.101 Sklechute
Pajw-
Inclined Tunnel
Sklepole
3 Climbing, Tires
2 Tirenets (4)
Trenet (6)
Inclined Ladder
Trac kride
Spiral Skle
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CITY 0PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2300
MEMS
DATE: September 11, 1987
TO Tames G. Willis, City Manager
FROM: Eric Blank, Director of Parks and Recreation 8 L
SUBJECT: Parkers Lake Pavillion FRAC Review
The Park and 'Recreation Advisory Commission met on Thursday evening,
September 10, with Del Erickson to review the final plans and cost
estimates for the Parkers Lake Pavillion. The Commission was unable
to officially meet due to the lack of a quorum. Members present were
Chairman Edwards:, John Reed, and Judy LaTour. It was the consensus of the
membery present that the project should "be put out for bid at this time.
Based upon the results of the bids, it was the members' fec:-ling that they
would recommend that any necessary cuts be made it the project in the
following order:
1. Lakeside observation deck $19,000
2. Small picnic shelter 16,000
3. Fireplace 3,500
4. One of the two clocks 1,700
5. Large picnic shelter 29,000
TOTAL $69,200
The cuts would leave the basic building design and quality intact. The
commissioners were hopeful that the contingency fund would not be needed,
therefore lowering the cost an additional $20,000.
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