HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 07-09-1987Regular Meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation, Advisory Commission
July 9, 1987, 7:30 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Call to order,
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Visitor Presentations
a. Athletic Associations
b. Staff
c., Other
Q, Report on Past Council Action
a.
b.
C.
5. Unfinished Business
a. 1988-92 CIP - action needed
b. Parkers Lake Building Update
c. Neighborhood Parks Update Amhurst, Rolling Hills, County Road 61
d. Parkers Lake Update - Grand opening Schedule
e. 1987 Trail Projects Update
f. Lions Park. Play Equipment
g. Plymouth Creek Park Planning discussion
h.
G. New Business
a. New Plats
b.
C.
d.
7 Commission Presentation
8. Staff Communication
9. Adjournment
Next meeting September 10
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory
Commission
June 1.1, 1987
Page 21
Present: Chair. Edwards, Commissioners Anderson, Bauman, LaTour.,
Reed, and Rosen (Beach arrived Late);
staff Blank and. Pederson: Del Erickson, architect.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chair Edwards in
the Council Conference Room.,
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Reed and seconded by
Commissioner LaTour to approve the minutes of. the May meeting as
presented. The motion carried with all ayes.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
ar Athletic Associations. None were present at this meeting -
b. Staff_ No recreation staff were present at this meeting.
Director Blank announced that Ruth Brown has resigned to go;
into private consulting, and the City Forester, Steve Cook,
has resignedto become a commercial pilot,
C. Others, None.
REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
a. Approved Parkers Lake Beach House Concept Plan. The City
Council approved the concept pian for the Parkers Lake
Building with a slight change in the roof line.
b_ Approved Plymouth -Wayzata Youth Baseball Electricity Request.
The request to install electricity to the pitching mound's at
LaCompte Park was approved.
C. Approved Plans and Specifications -- 101 and fernbrook Lane
Trails. This project. has been approved and is out for bids.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a_ 1988-92' C1P - Review Draft, Director Blank reviewed the list
of items that were not included in the CiP and shared with
commissioners the estimated costs for those items. He pointed
out an error in the 1988' C.IP regarding land acquisition for>
West Medicine Lake City Park. It should have read that
450,000 was coming from community parks and 450,000 from
grants. Director Blank then discussed the Swan Lake
Development proposed for 1989, and stated that we own the
weeded field east ;of thepond at this time. He indicated that
the City would like to retain the area north of the pond for a
neighborhood park. Commissioners then heard from Rose:
Bergeron, residing at 4595 Norwood Lane Lllie Thomas
residing at 4560 Norwood Lane, and LuAnn Svendsen, residing at
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June 11 1987
Page 22
12820 46th Avenue requesting play equipment for their
children and the other residents of the Schmidt_ Lake
Development. Theywentout and: got 344 signatures on a
petition asking for their neighborhoodpark to be
developed sooner than 1989_, which is when it is proposed
in the CIP. Director Blank pointed out that the only
access to the proposed park is Quinwood. Lane, which
happens to be 200--300 feet away from the land we own at
this time. and that if we were able to construct the park
prior to 1989, there would be no way for residents to get
there without crossing private property. Director Blank
is also concerned about the access to the park from 43rd
Avenue, because he isn't sure how 43rd will be laid. out
in the future. The residents asked Director Blank if
there was a way to get access to the park by condemning a,
portion of the land,, and he responded that this was uc
a costly procedure that he didn't think it was wise to
consider that option at this time,. Director Blank then
stated that this land hasn't been sold' to any developers
yet and that it probably would not be served k;y sewer or
water, until 1890. The residents were disappointed but
understood the dif:iculties the City would have in trying
to build their park now. FRAC members suggested that
staff contact these residents as soon as any development
plans; come in, on this area
Discussion continued on other items in the CIP. Director
Blank stated that another soccer field for Plymouth Creek
park may be proposed for 1988,, and that the pond dredging
has been moved from 1988.to 12-89, FRAC discussed the
proposed tennis courts for Plymouth Creek Park and
decided they were not comfortable planning them at this
time and would rather wait until they have an overall
plan for this part; worked out, Director Blank stated the
the City Manager is probably going to recommend to the
Council that the community center item be removed from
the CIP as it may be preventing the City from getting its
bond rating raised.
b. Parkers Lake Building. Del Ericksonwaswas present and
reviewed further the concept plans for the Parkers Lake
building and explained how the roof line had been
changed, Commissioners were pleased overall with the
layout and urged staff to be particularly conscious of
the exterior surface of this bu-ilding in terms of
maintenance costs_ The Commission recommended to
formally call this building the "Parkers Lake Pavillion"
after some discussion on how bathhouse didn't seem very
appropriate.
C. Neighborhood Parks Update. Development is well underway
at both Rolling, Hills and County Road 61 parks but has
not begun yet at Amhurst. Director Blank provided PRAC
members with a list of possible names for these three new
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June 11 198'
Page 23
parka. A motion was made by Commmissioner Rosen and
seconded by Commissioner Bauman to recommend to Council
the times Rollin Hills for Rolling Hills Park, Turtleng
Lake for Amhurst Park, and Heritage for County Road 61.
Park, After some discussion on, Turtle Lake and Heritage,
Commissioner Rosen withdrew the motion. Commissioner
Reed didn't feel that Turtle Lake was very appropriate,
since it doesn't really extend into the park, and
further, he doesn't, feel it. qualifies as a lake. After
further discussion, A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER
ROSEN AND SECONDED BY COMMI'SS.IONER REED TO RECOMMEND THE
NAME ROLLING H1 LLS PARK. FOR ROLLING HILLS. THE MOTION
CARRIED WITH ALL AYES.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LATOUR TO RECOMMEND HERITAGE PARK FOR THE
COUNTY ROAD 61 SITE. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES'..
FRAC recommended that staff notify the residents that:
these names are being recommended and will be voted on
by the City Council at a future Council meeting. The
residents should be informed of the date of that. meeting,
so that if they have any objections or any other
suggestions, they can come forward with them: at that
time, No definite decision was made on a name for
Amhurst Park, so those residents will be invited to
recommend' something,
d. Parkers Lake Update. Director Blank displayed the
proposed dedication sign for the playground equipment
that is being donated by the Koski family. He stated
that 3.0 picnic tables had been placed at various
locations throughout the park. Other projects completed
at Parkers Lake include the curb and gutter for the boat
launch,. paving of the Luce Line from Vicksburg east to
494, and the placement of some sign kiosks. He indicated
that if work continues at its, present pace, things should
be f nistied by the end of Tune.
e. 1987 Trail Projects. The trail along Gleason Lake Drive
is almost finished. Bids are out on the trail work along
Highway 101 and along Fernbrook Lane from County Road &
to Highway 55.
fx Lions Park Play Equipment. Director Blank had no new
information on this item.
6. NEW BUSINNESS
a. New Plats. Director Blank indicated that staff is
working with a plat for a northeast neighborhood park
site. He stated that Parkers Lake North has been
replatted, and another area is being platted west of 494
and north of County Road 9.
PRAC :Minutes
uune 11, 1967
Page,. 24
b. Joint Meeting with City Council. The joint meeting with
the City Council is scheduled for Monday, June 29,:
beginning at 6 p.m. Supper will be catered', Paul F}are
wi 1 l be in attendan.ca to discuss Plymouth Creek Park
planning.
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7.. COMMISSION PRESENTATION'
Chair Edwards asked commissioners if they had received`
invitations from the MRPA to the Ed'inborough Park tour on
June 25. Reservations must be In by June 20 and the cost is
7.50 per person. Commissioners wishing to attend should
inform the Park and Recreation office prior to the 20th.
9. STAFF COMMUNICATION
Director Blank announced that the park and recreation office
would be moving to the lower level of the City Center
building sometime in July. He stated that he would be on.
vacation the first two weeks in August and is hoping to not
have an August meeting unless something comes up that needs
PRAC attention.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10.00 p,m.
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June 16, 1987 MKIC WORX 1 REVOR --•`
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Mr. Eric J. Blank, Director IPJ2LICSMETY DIRECTOR
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Dear Mr. Blank;
Thank you for your letter regarding the Land and Water
Conservation Fund Program (LWCF)
I appreciate learning of the City of Plymouth's successful
dealings with this program. It appears that there have been
similar successes with the program all around the country.
The House passed H_..R. 1320 on April 1 I voted for this bill
which extends the program for another 25 years The Senate has
held hearings on a similar bill, but has yet to bring it to the
Senate floor. It is my understanding that the National. Park
Service is preparing a White Paper on the future of the Land and
Water Conservation Fund. It is expected to be complete later
this summer.
Thanks again for your letter. Your counsel is much appreciated.
rs y truly,
Bill Frenzel
Member of Congress
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Mr. Eric Blank
Park Director
City, of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouthe RN 55447
Re: Plymouth Creek Park:
Brauer a Associates Project. #87-05
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In further reviewing the matrix developed for this project
regarding the potential. location of the community center, it was
my ` feeling that sites #2 and #i were not to be considered
further. Ip therefore, focus my attention on sites #1 and t3 in
seeking to establish the pro and con conditions of the two.
Political and, economic conditions aside, I feel that site number
3 is the beat location for the proposed community center for the
following reasonst
1. Off -sitar farces that -result in site #3 as the favorable
site outnumbers site #1, on a 5 to 1 basis, and a total
numerical, weighted value of 27 points. Site #3issues
that are extremely important to the total fabric of the
community of Plymouth include:
jkccessi ility - both vehicular and pedestrian
will, be enhanced due to its location on a major
vehicular collector; water trails interconnect
and, also little disruption from both into
adjacent land use patterns within the Plymouth
Comprehensive Plan of Guided Uses.
V.tsibility = immediately adjacent to Plymouth
Boulevard, a major route collector within
Plymouth. Future marketing and promotional
efforts of the facility would be enhanced by a
location with higher visibility.
Relationships to the present Civic Center and
future Senior, Citizen Housing area is excellent.
Eric. Blank, City of Plymouth. - 2 - July 6, 1987
2. on-site forces for site number one did out; number, site
number three, seven to four for a total numerical
weighted value differential of 25 points. The point
differential total between off-site forces and on-site
forces therefore, virtually cancel each other out.
However, most of the points favoring site number one
are in the. on-site forces category, and also design
considerations that may be reversed should a designed
schematic concept be prepared for both sit* #1 and site
f3.
3. i feel that the off-site forces developed by the
Citizen, Advisory Committee in 1984 are generally of
more significance to the location of a community center
within Plymouth, then are th6 site specific forces.
I trust this may be of some help in your final consideration for
commuai-ty center site location.
B UER &VASSOCIATES LTD.
Pahl S. Pjar
President 1
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OELANO ERICKSOIV ARCHITECTS.
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MINNEAPOLM MN 55426
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MEMORANDUM
DATE: Jul; 9, 1987
TO Eric Blank, Plymouth Park. Commission, BKBL4, File
kRft Del Erickson
SUBJECT: Design Development Stage / Parkers Lake Park Pavilion
Comm. No. 8708
The following information represents an update of design, costs, and
specifications for the pavilion:
Surmary of Concession Equipment
Carbonator
Post mix pop dispenser and ice bin
Ice maker
Shaved ice machine and syrup dispenser
Sof t icer- 6:3m Machine
Under counter refrigerator.
Popcorn maker
Not dog grill
Coffee machine
Cash register
Mit--o wave
Freezer
The foregoing will accommodate the menu items --v discussed. Approximate
budget figure is $18,000 to $20,000, which is not included in the. budget.
Highest cost item: is soft ice cream machine which is $9,000.
The construction budget will include the following items;
3 compartment sink and trays
Hand sink
Counter top and shelving
Coil type serving windows with screen
MDERANL' UH
July 9, 1987
Page 2
Programmed Area Changes
1. Concession area was enlarged to accommodate ab -,--.,e equipment and
space for operation by more than one person.
2. Multi -use room was enlarged to accommodate larger groups and
approach a 30 n 30 foot space. Now has 930 s.f. net vs 780.
3. Coupled with f.)regoing area increases in public space, storage,
mechanical and construction. Total gross area = 3,418 s.f.
Cost Estimate/Outline Specifications
Using earlier cost estimate of $100 per s.f. the total budget at
3,418 s.f. is $340,000. Since increases in area are not same cost
as basic square foot costs we have done a detail breakdown o'JIL costs
based on present area, materials, and systems as follows:
Outline Specifications Cost
Division I General Conditions $ 27,050
Site protection
Temporary facilities, power
Performance bond.
Insurance
Permits
Division 2 --Site Work $ 29,250
Excavation, backfill, grading
Landscaping, sod
Utilities, 200' water, 800' sewer and manholes
2 1/2" paver block terrace and walk
2" blacktop drive/path
Fieldstone rip rap
Perimeter footing and retaining wall drain,tile
Division 3 - Concrete $ 13,000
4" slab on rade floor
Spread footings and round pierF
Division 4,- Masonry $ 32,150
12" rock face/burnished energy block exterior walls.
8" burnished block interior walls
Rock, face block fireplace with clay flue - alternate
Division 5 - Steel $ 7,700
Miscellaneous steel lintels and timber connectors
Steel pipe. railings
Jul 9' 1987
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Cost,
outline Specifications cont.
41 , 700Division6Carpentry
a) Wood framing, blocking and furing.
V b) Lsminated wood beams and wood deck roof and
floor and stair in public area and overhang.
c) Cedar shingle exterior wall finish on tower,
dormers, and above block.
d) Treated exterior wood decking andrailing
posts,,
Division 7 - Thermal and Moisture Protection $ 19,100
1. Fiberglass 'Hatt insulation for framed roof
and wall construction.
2. 1-1/2" styrofoam perimeter insulation below
grade.
3. Energy block styrofoam block insulation in
masonry.
4. Thermecal roof insulation and nailing system..
5. Bituthene sheet membrane below grade.
waterproofing.
6. Chemtrete concrete block waterproofing sealer;
7. Asphalt shingle roofing.
8. Galvinized iron metal flashing, ridge roll,
and. finials.
Division 8 - Doors and. Windows
1.. Hollow metal, doors and frames.
2. Vinyl faced, high performance glass, wood
windows; double hung.
3. Tempered glass in all doors and sidelights.
4. Insulated core roll -up meatal counter doors.
5. Shutter/menu board panels.
6. Heavy duty hardware.
Division 9 - Finishes
1. Ceramic/quarry tile concession floor
alternate wall)
2. Rubber skate tile in public area - lower
level.
3. Rubber' tile on upper level & .stair public area.
4q Rubber base throughout finished areas,
5. Concrete hardener/sealer or VCT in non-public
areas.
6. 5/8" gypsum board finish on framing.
7. Acoustic board_ .-.eilings - toilet, concession.
8. Painting of_metal, gypsum board
9. Seal and stain wood finishes.
28,900
24,250
a ' July 9, 1987
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outline Specifications (cont.)
Division 10 - Specialties
x 1. Casework plastic laminate counters,
cabinets, and, shelves in concession
and multi -use storage.
2. Stainless steel toilet accessories
include `IM, mirror., dispenser and.
disposal, hand dryer.
3. Fiberglass benches in multi -ruse & toilets.
4. Polyethylene.toilet partitions.
5. Steel gates at foyer.
Division 15 - Mechanical
Division_ 16 Electrical
Total Base Construction Cost Estimate
Alternates
Add - -
Wood pile and deck observation platfrom
Picnic shelters
Air curtain screens
Deduct -
Fireplace
Ceramic tile concession area
Skate tile (use runners)
Concrete terrace in lieu of pavers
TOTAL COST ESTII XTIE
With Add Alternates
We recommend a 5% contingency
Cost
19,000
329000- 2,000-$
23,000
297,¢00
15,000
50,000
2,600
3,500
2,500
8,000
2,000
364;100
18,200
382,100
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