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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 07-09-1987Regular Meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation, Advisory Commission July 9, 1987, 7:30 p.m. AGENDA 1. Call to order, 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Visitor Presentations a. Athletic Associations b. Staff c., Other Q, Report on Past Council Action a. b. C. 5. Unfinished Business a. 1988-92 CIP - action needed b. Parkers Lake Building Update c. Neighborhood Parks Update Amhurst, Rolling Hills, County Road 61 d. Parkers Lake Update - Grand opening Schedule e. 1987 Trail Projects Update f. Lions Park. Play Equipment g. Plymouth Creek Park Planning discussion h. G. New Business a. New Plats b. C. d. 7 Commission Presentation 8. Staff Communication 9. Adjournment Next meeting September 10 Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission June 1.1, 1987 Page 21 Present: Chair. Edwards, Commissioners Anderson, Bauman, LaTour., Reed, and Rosen (Beach arrived Late); staff Blank and. Pederson: Del Erickson, architect. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chair Edwards in the Council Conference Room., APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion was made by Commissioner Reed and seconded by Commissioner LaTour to approve the minutes of. the May meeting as presented. The motion carried with all ayes. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS ar Athletic Associations. None were present at this meeting - b. Staff_ No recreation staff were present at this meeting. Director Blank announced that Ruth Brown has resigned to go; into private consulting, and the City Forester, Steve Cook, has resignedto become a commercial pilot, C. Others, None. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION a. Approved Parkers Lake Beach House Concept Plan. The City Council approved the concept pian for the Parkers Lake Building with a slight change in the roof line. b_ Approved Plymouth -Wayzata Youth Baseball Electricity Request. The request to install electricity to the pitching mound's at LaCompte Park was approved. C. Approved Plans and Specifications -- 101 and fernbrook Lane Trails. This project. has been approved and is out for bids. UNFINISHED BUSINESS a_ 1988-92' C1P - Review Draft, Director Blank reviewed the list of items that were not included in the CiP and shared with commissioners the estimated costs for those items. He pointed out an error in the 1988' C.IP regarding land acquisition for> West Medicine Lake City Park. It should have read that 450,000 was coming from community parks and 450,000 from grants. Director Blank then discussed the Swan Lake Development proposed for 1989, and stated that we own the weeded field east ;of thepond at this time. He indicated that the City would like to retain the area north of the pond for a neighborhood park. Commissioners then heard from Rose: Bergeron, residing at 4595 Norwood Lane Lllie Thomas residing at 4560 Norwood Lane, and LuAnn Svendsen, residing at PFAC Minutes June 11 1987 Page 22 12820 46th Avenue requesting play equipment for their children and the other residents of the Schmidt_ Lake Development. Theywentout and: got 344 signatures on a petition asking for their neighborhoodpark to be developed sooner than 1989_, which is when it is proposed in the CIP. Director Blank pointed out that the only access to the proposed park is Quinwood. Lane, which happens to be 200--300 feet away from the land we own at this time. and that if we were able to construct the park prior to 1989, there would be no way for residents to get there without crossing private property. Director Blank is also concerned about the access to the park from 43rd Avenue, because he isn't sure how 43rd will be laid. out in the future. The residents asked Director Blank if there was a way to get access to the park by condemning a, portion of the land,, and he responded that this was uc a costly procedure that he didn't think it was wise to consider that option at this time,. Director Blank then stated that this land hasn't been sold' to any developers yet and that it probably would not be served k;y sewer or water, until 1890. The residents were disappointed but understood the dif:iculties the City would have in trying to build their park now. FRAC members suggested that staff contact these residents as soon as any development plans; come in, on this area Discussion continued on other items in the CIP. Director Blank stated that another soccer field for Plymouth Creek park may be proposed for 1988,, and that the pond dredging has been moved from 1988.to 12-89, FRAC discussed the proposed tennis courts for Plymouth Creek Park and decided they were not comfortable planning them at this time and would rather wait until they have an overall plan for this part; worked out, Director Blank stated the the City Manager is probably going to recommend to the Council that the community center item be removed from the CIP as it may be preventing the City from getting its bond rating raised. b. Parkers Lake Building. Del Ericksonwaswas present and reviewed further the concept plans for the Parkers Lake building and explained how the roof line had been changed, Commissioners were pleased overall with the layout and urged staff to be particularly conscious of the exterior surface of this bu-ilding in terms of maintenance costs_ The Commission recommended to formally call this building the "Parkers Lake Pavillion" after some discussion on how bathhouse didn't seem very appropriate. C. Neighborhood Parks Update. Development is well underway at both Rolling, Hills and County Road 61 parks but has not begun yet at Amhurst. Director Blank provided PRAC members with a list of possible names for these three new FRAC Minutes June 11 198' Page 23 parka. A motion was made by Commmissioner Rosen and seconded by Commissioner Bauman to recommend to Council the times Rollin Hills for Rolling Hills Park, Turtleng Lake for Amhurst Park, and Heritage for County Road 61. Park, After some discussion on, Turtle Lake and Heritage, Commissioner Rosen withdrew the motion. Commissioner Reed didn't feel that Turtle Lake was very appropriate, since it doesn't really extend into the park, and further, he doesn't, feel it. qualifies as a lake. After further discussion, A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND SECONDED BY COMMI'SS.IONER REED TO RECOMMEND THE NAME ROLLING H1 LLS PARK. FOR ROLLING HILLS. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. f A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LATOUR TO RECOMMEND HERITAGE PARK FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 61 SITE. THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES'.. FRAC recommended that staff notify the residents that: these names are being recommended and will be voted on by the City Council at a future Council meeting. The residents should be informed of the date of that. meeting, so that if they have any objections or any other suggestions, they can come forward with them: at that time, No definite decision was made on a name for Amhurst Park, so those residents will be invited to recommend' something, d. Parkers Lake Update. Director Blank displayed the proposed dedication sign for the playground equipment that is being donated by the Koski family. He stated that 3.0 picnic tables had been placed at various locations throughout the park. Other projects completed at Parkers Lake include the curb and gutter for the boat launch,. paving of the Luce Line from Vicksburg east to 494, and the placement of some sign kiosks. He indicated that if work continues at its, present pace, things should be f nistied by the end of Tune. e. 1987 Trail Projects. The trail along Gleason Lake Drive is almost finished. Bids are out on the trail work along Highway 101 and along Fernbrook Lane from County Road & to Highway 55. fx Lions Park Play Equipment. Director Blank had no new information on this item. 6. NEW BUSINNESS a. New Plats. Director Blank indicated that staff is working with a plat for a northeast neighborhood park site. He stated that Parkers Lake North has been replatted, and another area is being platted west of 494 and north of County Road 9. PRAC :Minutes uune 11, 1967 Page,. 24 b. Joint Meeting with City Council. The joint meeting with the City Council is scheduled for Monday, June 29,: beginning at 6 p.m. Supper will be catered', Paul F}are wi 1 l be in attendan.ca to discuss Plymouth Creek Park planning. f 7.. COMMISSION PRESENTATION' Chair Edwards asked commissioners if they had received` invitations from the MRPA to the Ed'inborough Park tour on June 25. Reservations must be In by June 20 and the cost is 7.50 per person. Commissioners wishing to attend should inform the Park and Recreation office prior to the 20th. 9. STAFF COMMUNICATION Director Blank announced that the park and recreation office would be moving to the lower level of the City Center building sometime in July. He stated that he would be on. vacation the first two weeks in August and is hoping to not have an August meeting unless something comes up that needs PRAC attention. 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 10.00 p,m. BILA Ff1ENZE 61WKS to OFFIM.. i111A! DNMetT,..1wIMtWTA/ .. Moor 445 120 hr» Avtruc Sanx w%*"WW * O"Ic Moowwor. MN 55431-1326 Loftewowrw ,, $ 12,48 "600 202-226-2471.w@Canar cog; of Ot Vnitleb Otateg ouOt of Scpregmt4fibti NDWX It UAWa0m, NC 20515-2303 CRY ftVVWf/ effew" June 16, 1987 MKIC WORX 1 REVOR --•` i1Nllt w U4_C,'h ' utii sftlii I-P(ECTOR - ... Mr. Eric J. Blank, Director IPJ2LICSMETY DIRECTOR Parks, and Recreation, City of Plymouth UMINISiRAnvZ RS=Alry 34CNK CNANS&ON00PlymouthBoulevard, -.5.. Plymouth, MN 55447 -affAffo"Ev Dear Mr. Blank; Thank you for your letter regarding the Land and Water Conservation Fund Program (LWCF) I appreciate learning of the City of Plymouth's successful dealings with this program. It appears that there have been similar successes with the program all around the country. The House passed H_..R. 1320 on April 1 I voted for this bill which extends the program for another 25 years The Senate has held hearings on a similar bill, but has yet to bring it to the Senate floor. It is my understanding that the National. Park Service is preparing a White Paper on the future of the Land and Water Conservation Fund. It is expected to be complete later this summer. Thanks again for your letter. Your counsel is much appreciated. rs y truly, Bill Frenzel Member of Congress BF:em TNN WrATIONE11Y PRINTED ON PAM MADE WITH RECYCLED fl/ERS' 1988 - 1992 CAP IT AtIMPROVEMENTS R -0C R A" — weans frwd decrease 1'21 Federal revenue sharing f'wwd itore sever tax district t E A R — i 4 8$ 4' P011c works reserve fwd S) Tax Increment financing i) Water revenue bonds 1 ane lble7Eii Ia7®®®®•''1el[deIas®•Iel[n.L'®® Ilrt7seiale—_ tlily[iia7il®_®_—_® 1 1 s® 0 1992 CAP T TAC T HP'RDVE°ii'ENTS PROGRAM - ern5 nukwuKrcai;e jZj r+deral revenue sharl" fw*A V f A R - 2 9 91 1 Stars sewer tax district i) Public worts reserve food DRAFT 5) r4x locrio"t financing 6) KYttr revenue ponds park Dedicatio" Fund CSpecialAssessaeents Coeewnity StAtel' I.P.. Estiwted Utility N.S.A, PIOUS del2fArhd oonty/ L D, ko. Project.Qescri cion Cost Area latera oSa fund I Fund i Trails Parks Federal Bexnls Other r ok Par U u1Y Of, Xi01 Mr. Eric Blank Park Director City, of Plymouth 3400 Plymouth Blvd. Plymouthe RN 55447 Re: Plymouth Creek Park: Brauer a Associates Project. #87-05 r ic, In further reviewing the matrix developed for this project regarding the potential. location of the community center, it was my ` feeling that sites #2 and #i were not to be considered further. Ip therefore, focus my attention on sites #1 and t3 in seeking to establish the pro and con conditions of the two. Political and, economic conditions aside, I feel that site number 3 is the beat location for the proposed community center for the following reasonst 1. Off -sitar farces that -result in site #3 as the favorable site outnumbers site #1, on a 5 to 1 basis, and a total numerical, weighted value of 27 points. Site #3issues that are extremely important to the total fabric of the community of Plymouth include: jkccessi ility - both vehicular and pedestrian will, be enhanced due to its location on a major vehicular collector; water trails interconnect and, also little disruption from both into adjacent land use patterns within the Plymouth Comprehensive Plan of Guided Uses. V.tsibility = immediately adjacent to Plymouth Boulevard, a major route collector within Plymouth. Future marketing and promotional efforts of the facility would be enhanced by a location with higher visibility. Relationships to the present Civic Center and future Senior, Citizen Housing area is excellent. Eric. Blank, City of Plymouth. - 2 - July 6, 1987 2. on-site forces for site number one did out; number, site number three, seven to four for a total numerical weighted value differential of 25 points. The point differential total between off-site forces and on-site forces therefore, virtually cancel each other out. However, most of the points favoring site number one are in the. on-site forces category, and also design considerations that may be reversed should a designed schematic concept be prepared for both sit* #1 and site f3. 3. i feel that the off-site forces developed by the Citizen, Advisory Committee in 1984 are generally of more significance to the location of a community center within Plymouth, then are th6 site specific forces. I trust this may be of some help in your final consideration for commuai-ty center site location. B UER &VASSOCIATES LTD. Pahl S. Pjar President 1 PSF/jf OELANO ERICKSOIV ARCHITECTS. T416 WAYZATA SOULEVARO MINNEAPOLM MN 55426 612 - 344-8370 MEMORANDUM DATE: Jul; 9, 1987 TO Eric Blank, Plymouth Park. Commission, BKBL4, File kRft Del Erickson SUBJECT: Design Development Stage / Parkers Lake Park Pavilion Comm. No. 8708 The following information represents an update of design, costs, and specifications for the pavilion: Surmary of Concession Equipment Carbonator Post mix pop dispenser and ice bin Ice maker Shaved ice machine and syrup dispenser Sof t icer- 6:3m Machine Under counter refrigerator. Popcorn maker Not dog grill Coffee machine Cash register Mit--o wave Freezer The foregoing will accommodate the menu items --v discussed. Approximate budget figure is $18,000 to $20,000, which is not included in the. budget. Highest cost item: is soft ice cream machine which is $9,000. The construction budget will include the following items; 3 compartment sink and trays Hand sink Counter top and shelving Coil type serving windows with screen MDERANL' UH July 9, 1987 Page 2 Programmed Area Changes 1. Concession area was enlarged to accommodate ab -,--.,e equipment and space for operation by more than one person. 2. Multi -use room was enlarged to accommodate larger groups and approach a 30 n 30 foot space. Now has 930 s.f. net vs 780. 3. Coupled with f.)regoing area increases in public space, storage, mechanical and construction. Total gross area = 3,418 s.f. Cost Estimate/Outline Specifications Using earlier cost estimate of $100 per s.f. the total budget at 3,418 s.f. is $340,000. Since increases in area are not same cost as basic square foot costs we have done a detail breakdown o'JIL costs based on present area, materials, and systems as follows: Outline Specifications Cost Division I General Conditions $ 27,050 Site protection Temporary facilities, power Performance bond. Insurance Permits Division 2 --Site Work $ 29,250 Excavation, backfill, grading Landscaping, sod Utilities, 200' water, 800' sewer and manholes 2 1/2" paver block terrace and walk 2" blacktop drive/path Fieldstone rip rap Perimeter footing and retaining wall drain,tile Division 3 - Concrete $ 13,000 4" slab on rade floor Spread footings and round pierF Division 4,- Masonry $ 32,150 12" rock face/burnished energy block exterior walls. 8" burnished block interior walls Rock, face block fireplace with clay flue - alternate Division 5 - Steel $ 7,700 Miscellaneous steel lintels and timber connectors Steel pipe. railings Jul 9' 1987 Page 3 Cost, outline Specifications cont. 41 , 700Division6Carpentry a) Wood framing, blocking and furing. V b) Lsminated wood beams and wood deck roof and floor and stair in public area and overhang. c) Cedar shingle exterior wall finish on tower, dormers, and above block. d) Treated exterior wood decking andrailing posts,, Division 7 - Thermal and Moisture Protection $ 19,100 1. Fiberglass 'Hatt insulation for framed roof and wall construction. 2. 1-1/2" styrofoam perimeter insulation below grade. 3. Energy block styrofoam block insulation in masonry. 4. Thermecal roof insulation and nailing system.. 5. Bituthene sheet membrane below grade. waterproofing. 6. Chemtrete concrete block waterproofing sealer; 7. Asphalt shingle roofing. 8. Galvinized iron metal flashing, ridge roll, and. finials. Division 8 - Doors and. Windows 1.. Hollow metal, doors and frames. 2. Vinyl faced, high performance glass, wood windows; double hung. 3. Tempered glass in all doors and sidelights. 4. Insulated core roll -up meatal counter doors. 5. Shutter/menu board panels. 6. Heavy duty hardware. Division 9 - Finishes 1. Ceramic/quarry tile concession floor alternate wall) 2. Rubber skate tile in public area - lower level. 3. Rubber' tile on upper level & .stair public area. 4q Rubber base throughout finished areas, 5. Concrete hardener/sealer or VCT in non-public areas. 6. 5/8" gypsum board finish on framing. 7. Acoustic board_ .-.eilings - toilet, concession. 8. Painting of_metal, gypsum board 9. Seal and stain wood finishes. 28,900 24,250 a ' July 9, 1987 Page 4 outline Specifications (cont.) Division 10 - Specialties x 1. Casework plastic laminate counters, cabinets, and, shelves in concession and multi -use storage. 2. Stainless steel toilet accessories include `IM, mirror., dispenser and. disposal, hand dryer. 3. Fiberglass benches in multi -ruse & toilets. 4. Polyethylene.toilet partitions. 5. Steel gates at foyer. Division 15 - Mechanical Division_ 16 Electrical Total Base Construction Cost Estimate Alternates Add - - Wood pile and deck observation platfrom Picnic shelters Air curtain screens Deduct - Fireplace Ceramic tile concession area Skate tile (use runners) Concrete terrace in lieu of pavers TOTAL COST ESTII XTIE With Add Alternates We recommend a 5% contingency Cost 19,000 329000- 2,000-$ 23,000 297,¢00 15,000 50,000 2,600 3,500 2,500 8,000 2,000 364;100 18,200 382,100 4