HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 06-11-1987Regular Meeting i;!-. the p1 _ 4._ _h Parkk and RecreationAdvisory Commission
June 1Zr 1987, 7;30 p.m,
AGENDA
Z.. Cali to Orden
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Visitor Presentations
a Athletic Associations
b. Staff
Q. others.
4,. Report. on Past Council Action
a.. Approved Parkers Lake Building Concept plan,
b. Approved Plymouth -Wayzata. Youth Baseball Electricity Request
c, Approved Plans and Specifications - 101 and Fernbrook Lane Trails
S. Unfinished Business
a. 1988-92 CIP Review Drat
h. Parkers Lake Building - Del Erickson
a. Neighborhood Parks Update Amhurst, Rolling Hilts, County Road 61
d, Parkers Lake Update
e_. 1987 Trail Projects
f Lions Park Play Equipment
g.
h.
6. New Business:
a. New Plats
b. Joint Meeting with,City Council (June 29, 6:00 p.m..)
C.
a.
7 Commission presentation
8. Staff Communication
9,, Adjournment
Next meeting July 9th
Minutes of the Roguiar Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory
Commission
May It, 1987
Page 16'
Present: Chair Edwards, Commissio*,,iers Rosen, Bauman (Beach and
Anderson arrived late),. staff Blank, Busch, Patterson and Pederson,
and Del Erickson, architect.
Absent: Commissioners. L.aTour and Reed'
1CALL TO ORDER
Chair Edwards called the meeting to order at 7.51 p.m, in the
Council Chambers,
2. APPROVAL. OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Coommissioner Bauman and secondedby
Commissioner Rosen to approve the minutes of the April meeting as
presented. The motion carried: with all ayes. Commissioner Rosen
asked Chair Edwards for clarification on. Roberts Rules of Order
regarding whether or not it was proper to vote against a motion
if you had also been the person to second the motion. Chair
Edwards wasn't sure, Director Blank stated, that he felt the
purpose of seconding a motion was to get it on the floor for
voting on it., and therefore, it was appropriate for the same
individual seconding a motion to then vote against. it..
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Associations. None were present at this meeting.
b Staff. Rick Busch stated that softball team registrations.
were up this summer from 153 in. 1986 to 18.6 in 1987, He has
field attendants working at Zachary, Plymouth Creek and
Plymouth Jr. High fields at this time and expects to :have
them beginning the week of May 18 at Oakwood and La.Compte.
He stated that beaches are scheduled to open for Memorial Day
weekend, weather permitting. Other activities coming up
under Rick's supervision include a; Class D Men's Divisional
Softball Tournament at Zachary Playfield over Labor Day
Weekend.. Nine states are expected to be represented, with
over 10.0 teams participating, Friday,. May 22 the Girls High
School Regional Softball; Tournament will be held at Zachary
P ayfield.
Chair Edwards asked Director Blank if there was meed for
concern over the fact that we don't have lifeguards posted
yet, and swimmers are already using the beaches, Director
Blank responded that our liability isn't much different with
or without lifeguards.
Mary Patterson stated that since we began computer
registration in January of this year, we now have over 2,300
participants in our data base. This has greatly reduced the
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computer's response ii,me in printing class lists, and for
that reason, we decided not to enter swimming registration to
the computer. Swimming registration was held Saturday, May
9, at both Plymouth City Center and Wayzata City hall, We
took in 550 registrations for the Wayzata Eat pool and 490
for the West pool. Beech lessons have been added at both
Parkers Lake and the Wayzata beach, Last year beach lessons
were offered at only the East Medicine Lake: beach: We
contracted this year to offer beach lessons at. a specific
ties to a local daycare agency. Mary stated that the Parkers
Lake grand opening plans are going well, with two bands and
the In: the Heart of the. Beast Puppet Theatre scheduled to
perform so far, All grand: opening plans will be finalised in
time for publication in the July Plymouth on Parade. Mary
indicated that she recently attended. a liability/safety
seminar and one of the topics was signage at beaches. She.
further stated that: this year water quality would be tested
weekly at -,II of our beaches, Chair Edwards asked if there
was a test to determine ii ,swimmers itch was present in the
water, and Mary responded no, but that as soon as we can
beaches: are sprayed for swimmers itch and then ;oust be closed
for the next 24 hours: Wv try to dothat on a rainy day, so
that it affects as few swimmers as possible,
4, REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
a., Directed to Proceed with Phase I e It of Bathhouse, Council
authorized consultant to begin the design of a year round
multi-purpose facility and two picnic shelters at Parkers
Lake City Park.
b. Award Bid Parkers Lake, Phase Ii construction of Parkers Lake
City Park was awarded by Council to H.L, Johnson Company.
C. Award Bid Three Neighborhood Parks, Council awarded bid to
Barber Construction for the construction of Amhurst, Rolling
Bills and County Road 61 parks.
d. Council approvedthe installation of a cable ride in the
County Road 61 neighborhood park.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
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a. Parkers. Lake Bathhouse, Council approved the expenditure of
395,000 for the construction' of the bathhouse at Parkers
Lake City Park. Del Erickson architect was present at the
meeting to share- proposed concept plans of the bathhouse with
commissioners and staff. Commissioners were generally very
pleased with the schematic design, but Chair Edwards had some
concern over the observation deck extending out over the
water. She was afraid it would be a gathering place for kids.
to dive into the lake from. Director BlanV at.ated that the
water level at this location would fluctuate from b!ttween one
and four feet depending on the lake level, Del Erickson
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pointed out that the deck was d'esivned as an observation
site., and that in the winter it would serve as a place for
the ice skaters to sit and/or take off from when they go
skating. Staff and other commissioners like the feeling of
the deck being somethinU like a wharf found on the wast.
coast. Director Blank pointed out that the observation deck
will be bid as an alternate and, does not have to be decided
on at, this time, He also stated the fireplace proposed for
the multi-purpose room will also be bid as an alternate
After further review, A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN
AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON TO APPROVE THE
SCHEMATIC DESIGN OF THE BATHHOUSE: AS PRESENTED TO DATE, THE
MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES:,
b. Neighborhood Parks Update, A pre ---construction meeting will
be held between staff. and Barber Construction on Friday, May
15, Construction should begin by May 21. or 22 at Amhurst
park first, followed by Rolling Hills and finishing with
County Road 61.
c, Parkers Lake Update, H.L. Johnson Co, will be done with
Parkers Lake Phase 11 by June 20, if weather cooperates and
work stays on schedule. This early completion date is
possible, because of the mild winter and spring weather we
experienced, They were able to get started sooner than
expected',
d. Trail Project Update. The County Road i5 trail is graded,
and culverts and storm sewers are in. Paving will be done
very soon, The 101 and Fe.rnbrook Lane trails are still being
designed. Barber Construction, instead of City crews, will
do the trail on Fernbrook from Highway 55 to Co, Rd, 9 and
the one on Zachary from the elementary school north. They
will do it, for the same trail: cost as in the, neighborhood
park bid, $6,33 per foot. This frees up our crews to do
otter maintenance work,.
e. Purchase of Land on Plymouth Creek -Update, Appraisors valued
the lands the homeowner wishes to sell to the City at $16,000,
Director Blank indicated that was too expensive for us, but
that. the City would go ahead and make owner an offer, even
though City will. likely end up purchasing only a 30 foot
easement for the trail_..
f. 1.999 LAWCON/LCMR Grant, Application Update. We have submitted
our LAWCON, grant for $100,000 to purchase a house and 1.6
acres of land for West _Medicine Lake City Park, Director
Blank is not optimistic since this is a small project, and
the. LAWCON office is more interested in development projects.
Director Blank reminded commissioners than this was the
choice made at the April meriting, because this was the only
site at this time that would be eligible for a LAWCON grant,
Although he's fairly certain it will be denied, this sets us
up. better for approval the following year,
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g Lions Park Play Equipment. Commissioners reviewed the
re.sults'Of the questionnelre sent to residents living near
typesyp equipment theyLionsParkregarding, what es of play a ui yuan
desired. Director Blank indicated that he would tike to
purchase one piece that features many of the components
desired by the residents. A unanimous recommendation from
PRAC directed, staff to proceed with the purchase of the play
equipment, Director Blank reported that the Lions Club,
which was going '..o d( -.gate. some financial assistance toward
this pr-o)ect, informed him that they had spent all their
funds for 1987,
h, Plymo+)th Creek Park Planning -Update.. Director Blank stated
that a joint meeting with the City Council, has been, scheduled
for June 29, at which time more discussion will be held on
planning, Plymouth Greek park. He dial ind-icate that a plat
has come in to the Planning Dept. on the 4C acres on the
north end of the park. He stated that we would ask for land
ded'i c.at i on from that 40 acres for park purposes.
6 NEW BUSINESS
a, New Ptats- There were no new plats to report.
b,< 19!18-9:2 GIP. Director Blank did a first draft review of, the
five year C'IP beginninq with 1988 He stated that the
neighborhood park proposed for development in 1988 will be
St, Mary's,, and he added a parking lot to the Plymouth Creek
tennis courts. In 1989, Swan Lake neighborhood park is
proposed for acquisition and development, along with Plymouth
Creek Park, pond dredging, the first pha.se of West Medicine
Lake City park which was postponed from 1988, trails and the
community center. In 1990, the neighborhood park will be
Bass Lake, Kilmer Park is scheduled for improvements, more
tralIs will be do.ne-, a,r Phase 11 of West Medicine Lake Park,
postponed from 1989,1 1991, proposed items include trails,
a neighborhood park is scheduled for a northeast site, the
second Phase of Bass Lake Park, and more ponddredging in
Plymouth Creek Pack. In 1992, projects include Parkers Lake
North for the neighborhood park, another neighborhood' park at
49.4: and Co. Rd. 9, Parkers Lake Playfield, trails and more
pond dredging at. Plymouth Creek park. Other items not
included in the draft plan are;
1, community center land acquisition
2. Plymouth Creek park
3. the home on l^ernbrook Lane
4, the Zachary trail
4, group picnic facilities at Parkers Lake
6, parking at Timl er Shores
7, a trail along Co. Rd. 61 north from Co-. 9 to Bass Lake Rd
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8, a parking lot for Schmidt Lake nei:ghbo.rhood park
9. a play area in .Fa:endin neighborhood park.
Following this review, Commissioner Bauman requested that
staff provide PRAC with cost estimates for the items not
included in the CIP, Director Blank stated that the CIF
would be finalised in July.
C. Swan Lake Petition. Staff received a petition from residents
living near Swan Lake, asking for a park. in their
neighborhood in the very near future,. Director, Blank
indicated that, we currently own four acres on the east side
of the lake and that play equipment could be installed there,
although he's not sure if that's the best location for it.
Director Blank stated that the CIP calls for the development
of this park in 1989,
7 COMMISSION PRESENTATION
COmnli.ssioner Rosen stated that he was concerned with the names
given to the three new neighborhood, parks, particularly the name
County Road 6111 park. Director Blank said that he would bring a
list of proposed names to the next meeting, and PRAC could review
them and choose something more appropriate,
8, STAFF COMMUNICATION
None,
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting Adjourned at 9:24 p.m..
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
DATE: June 8 1987
MEMO
TO; FRAC
FROM; Eric Blank, Director. of Parks and Recreation
SUBJECT: NAMES FOR: NEW NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS
Listed on the attachment are possible names for our new neighborhood parks.
This list is meant to be examples only of ,possible names, not intended to
be all inclusive. I have: put an asterisk (*) next to the names that I
think.would be best suited for each of these sites.
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Attachment
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POSSIBLE NAMES FOR NEW NEIGHBQRHQ'M PARKS
Rolling Hills Amhurst County Road61
ROLLING HILLS TURTLE LAKE SKYLINE
VALLEYVIEW
MARSH LAKE HERITAGE
ZACHARY MEDICINE LAKE
HIDDEN VALLEY
Other
PARKVIEW
OAK KNOLL,
HILLSIDE
WILLOWWOOD
RIDGEVIEW
LADY SLIPPER
ACORN
RED OAK;
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OTHER ITEMS TO CONSIDER/NOT IN DRAFT PLAN
Cost Est.,
1. Land for community center if needed
2. Additional land for Plymouth Creek Park (north side)- dedication or $40,000/acre
3. Acquisition of home on Fernbrook Lane (Plymouth Creek Park) 95,000
4. Zachary Lane trail - could come out of yearly trail program 90,000
5. Group picnic area south end of Parkers Lake, 2 buildings $25,000 ea. 75,000
parking $25,000
6.. Timber Shores additional ---street parking 15,000
7. County Road 61 trail 8,000
8. Parking lot Schmidt Lake, neighborhood park 8,000
9. Parking .lot Rolling Hills neighborhood park 8,000
10. Parking lot Amhurst neighborhood park 8,000
11_. No matching grants for park school. sites - Birchview, Greenwood 20,000
12. Acquisition of additional wooded area northwest 494 & Co. Rd. 9 30,000/acre
13. Second soccer field at Plymouth Creek 30,000
14. Play area in Fazendin Park 30,000
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