HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 10-03-1985Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
Regular Meeting of October 5, 1985, 7.30 p.m.
City Center Council Chambers
AGENDA
li Ca, i i to ordor
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Visitor Presentations
a. Athletic Associations
b. Staff
c. Others
4. Report can. Past Council Action
a.
b.
5.. Unfinished Business
a. Patkers Lake Master Site Plan - Brauer and Associates
b. Neighborhood Park Improvements Update
c. 1986-90 CIP, 1986-87 Budget
d. Request from Mr, d Mrs. Baxter - Pond Dredging
6, New Business
a. Betty Threinen Recognition
b PRAC Education Program for New Commissioners
c. MRPA Pali Conference (November 20-22)
d.
7. Commission Presentation
8. Staff Communication
9. Ad joitrnment
Next Meeting November 14
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
September Al 1955
Page 27
Present: Chair Throlnen, Commissioners Anderson,; Edwards, LaTour and Reed;
staff Blank and Pederson representatives from W o or and Associates;
Lan Thlede from Pilgrim Lane PTC; and residents interested in tht
Parkers Lake issue
Absent; Commissioners Beach and Mullan
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Throlnen called the September meating to order at 7:30 p.m. to the
Council Chambers...
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Reed and seconded: by Commissioner Edwards
to approve the minutes of the July meeting as presented. The motion carried
with all ayes,
3, VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Associations. None wore: present at this meeting.
b Staff. Mary Patterson and Ruth Brown submitted written reports On their
summer programs and now fail programa.
c. (the; s . Len Th i edo from the Pilgrim Lan, PTO was present to thank the
City and give a progress report on the playground equipment and construc-
tion, to which FRAC contributed $10,000 during the last two years. The
playground has boon heavily used Ws past summer, Chair Throlnen asked
Mr. Thlede to check usage during non --school hours and on weekends and
report back to FRAC at a later date. Mr, Thtede stated that the PTO
has approved another fundraiser and has formed a planning committee to
plan for 1956 improvements,
Q. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
There was no report on this item.
54 UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Parkers Lake _Update. For the benefit of the audience and the commissioners,
Chair Thretnen reviewed the planning process so for, which has included
the mailing of questionnaires to over 3,500 residents, one public meoting
with the consultants whore, questionnairo results were studied and results
reviewed. Paul Fjare from Brauer & Associate; was then Introduced.
He dispiayed two proposed concept plans for Parkers Lake City Park and,
proceeded to explain them. He indicated that Plan A and B were somewhat
similar, with both showing the Following divisions of acreage: 13.7
acres will be conservatlan (natural), 1.6 acres will be parking, 6.6
acres will be picnlc area and games meadows, 1.6 acres will be swimming
and 1.5 acres will be boat launch.
Some of the concerns voiced by the residents are as followst
1) increased traffic along County Road 6
z) how will additional development north of County Road 6 affect lake
and water quality's
5) lake levels fluctuate constantly and this wilt affect beach/swlmming
ares
Pmo Minutes
September 12, 1985
Page 28.
4? what is actual size of lake's Some residentss believe it to be 67 acres;
our plan shows that It is 92 acres. This should be resolved, as size
of lake dictates size of boat launch.
5) a boat and canoe rental concession may introduce ex•ira boat traffic.
Residents. living on lake do not want a pian that fosters a change In
how 'water surface Is currently used.
After hearing from the residents, Chair Threltien stated that the following
areas needed further research: additional studies of water quality,; DNR
Involvement, boat rental concession, traffic on County Road 6, and picnic
areas..
All commissioners agreed that they favor DNR support of this loko (DNR
involvement is contingent upon a public boat launch). They also agreed
that an access road along the north and of tho lake for dropping off
park visitors was better than a parking lot. Two picnic sites of varying
size are favored over one site.. The park and recreation depa^tment
receives many requests for picnic reservations over the summer months.
Commissioners also agreed that an amphitheater was a good idea. Mr.
Fjare Indicated -that he envisions this as a natural grass/bowl-shaped
site. The Commtsslon felt that fishing docks wore veru Important, but
should not be placed too close to the residents on the east side. There
should be at least two docks, but no more than three, and they should
be spread out. it was agreed that residents with boats should be allowed
continued use of those boats, and up to five non-rosidents should be.
allowed to launch tholr boats. The Commis:;lon agreed that a boat
rental concession should not be implemented until after staf lies
had a chance to study how well the boat launch works out and it tho
lake regulates itself. All commissioners felt that it was very Important
to have the trail system linked to this park, Including the Luce Line.
Natural vegetation should be used to screen the workhouse site from this
park, and records should: be kept on any workhouse disturbances that may
occur In the park.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
EDWARDS DIRECTING BRAUER & ASSOCIATES TO PREPARE A FINAL CONCEPT PLAN
OF PARKERS LAKE CITY PARK FOR PRESENTATION TO PRAC ON OCT08ER 3, 1985,
INCORPORATING THE IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS MADE AT THE SEPTEMBER 12
MEETING. The motion carried with all ayes.
b. Nolohborhood Park ImprovementW Update. Director Blank indicated that
olds are In from all sub -contractors. All play equipment has been
delivered. Old play equipment that had to be removed was donated to
a bible camp, In exchange for them removing It.
c. 1986-90 CIF's 1986-87 Budget. Directo, Blank indicated that two budget
Mork sessions have been held with the City Council to date. A new pork
maintenrance posltlon has been tentatively approved. The showmobile
that Director Blank requested was removed from i,o 1986 budget but
remains In the 1987 budget. He indicated that the County would be the
Ideal owner of a showmoblioo from wham the City would then rent It.
Ho has suggested this to the Hennepin County Park Board of Directors.
d. Oakwood Parking Lot Update_. The parking lot is basically finished, but
It has not been striped, and tresis need to be planted. Parking stalls
PPAG Minutes
Sepiember 121 1985
Page 29
wlII be striped in white and the play area in yol low. Four tetherball
poles have also been Installed.
6. NEW OUS1NESS
None..
7, COMMISSION PRESENTATION
None.
8, STAFF COMMUNICATION
The next meting is October 3.
a. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:46 p.m.
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (812) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: September 24,
1
159,8 5,
TO PRACf
FROM: Eric Blank
SUBJECT Request from BiII and Shirley Baxter for the dredging of a pond on the
south end of Queensland neighborhood park
I have reviewed this subject and, visited the site with public works
director, bred Moore. It is Mr. Moore's conclusion that we would be
unable to do any of this work with existing city equipment. He
estimates the Job to require approximately one day's work with a crane
at an estimated cost of approximately $10000.
Without an exact field survey, It is our belief that part of the pond in
question actually ties on private property east of Queensland park. On
the attached graphic i have shown the park property (green) and the Baxter's
home (yellow) In relationship to the ponding area.
It is my estimation that there would be Little or no benefit to the public
from trying to dredge out this marsh land. The Baxter's would benefit,
because the deck on their home overlooks this site.
Any work in this area would require permits from the watershod district.
The marsh as it now exists is serving a function in that the cattails, etc.,
are acting as a cleansing material for the storm water runoff before t$
enters our streams and lakes,
ror the reasons stated above, I am, therefore, recommending that we not
Include In the current CIP any work for dredging of a pond at Queensland
nelghborhood park. if the Baxte O s wish to incur this expense themselves,
I would be willing to submit the necessary paper work to try and secure
the necessary permits.
np
Attachment
LATE: June 13, 1983
TOs. Plymouth Park Commission
FRCc M Bill and Shirley Baxter, 17533 6he Ave. No., 473-7162
4JBJECT: -Proposal for Queensland Lane Park improvements
We wish to propose a recommendation that the city dredge a small pond in order
to enhance the usefulness of a park wildlife area. This pond is located on Plymouth
property (Section 30 T11SR22 Block 3) at the south end of the path leading from
Queensland Cane Park to 6th Ave. No. This is an area designated as a "natural"
area or wildlife sanctuary. Unfortunately, this pond is becoming overgrown with
weeds and has no open water except in early spring, when waterfowl do appear
but, are discouraged from nesting as the weed growth overtai<es the pond. We believe
that a single crane or dredging machine with one da, s work would open enough
water for better waterfowl useage.
This park trail is heavily used by walkers, joggers and bikers, and even groups
of children on field trips from a nearby nursery school. While there are other water
areas in the vicinity, this is the only one directly accessible by a footpath, so that
all using the trail would be able to enjoy seeing the wildlife living in it.
This part of the trail also has a large dead elm tree which should be removed,
and the trail itself which is next to the pond has never been completely finished.
Part of the trail is gravel surface, and part is asphalt, but the section by the pond
is dirt for frequently mud). Therefore, dredging the pond now would not cause de-
struction of a finished path, and could be done before those improvements are
made.
We Compliment you on the fine park system you have constructed In the city,
and thank you for your consideration of this small, but valuable addition to that
network.
CITE' OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (6'12) 559-280.0
MEMO
DATE; September 24, 1985
TO PRAC
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FROM: Eric Blank {
SUBJECT Donations
On a number of occasions, we have discussed the marketing or fundraising
aspects of our programs. In order to give you a better Idea of what has
been taking place with regard to outside funding, 1 have outlined below
most of the contributions we have received In the last three years.
MUSIC PROGRAM S"ER CONCERTS
Wayzata Bank and Trust„ Music Performance Trust Funds
1982 $1,000 1982 $154
1983 1,000 1983 255.50
1984 607.50 1984 385
1985 746.63 1985 211.75
PLYMOUTH PUPPET WAGON
Plymouth Shopping Center,
1985 $1,000
SUMMER & WINTER TRIATHLONS
Ski Hut Sport -About
1984
4$
50 1984 $200
Janssenls Foods Burger King
1985 $ 200 (in food) 1985 $500
WATER CARNIVAL
Burger King
1984 $ 300
SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS
Radisson Inn
1983 $1,000
1984 1,000
1985 1,000
Erickson's Super Valu
400 hotdogs, 24 boxes of chips
Holsum Bakery.
1,000 hotdog buns
Burger King
Cold drink
Burger King
1985 5500
Janssew's Foods
Baked Beans
Hollday_.Plus
400 hotdogs, 24 boxes of chips
Forster's Meats
200 hotdogs
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE:, October 3, 1985
TO., FRAC
FROM: Eric Blank
SUBJECT Budget for Parkers Lake City Park
The estimated total construction cost for this park including
and shelters is $1.4 million. See Exhibit #1 for a detail of
cost estimates. More accurate numbers will be developed and
you after construction plans and specifications ore prepared
developmee,. Funding for the Phase i project is proposed to
from the following sources
FederalLAWCON grant 90,000
State LCMR grant 42,750
City park dedication funds 215,000
City revenue sharing 250,060
Total $597,750
The estimated operating cost of this park; is as follows:
buildings
Brauer's
shared with
for Phase I
be available
We estimate the maintenance of the park will cost $10,000 annually. See
Exhibit #2. The cost of supplying lifeguards is estimated to be $4,500
annually. See Exhibit #3. We anticipate this cost will be off -set some
by revenues from the concession facility at the park. All of the estimated
costs for maintenance of the park have been included in the 1986-87
park maintenance budget. We will not be requesting additional park
maintenance dollars to maintain f his site. The cost of Lifeguards will
be an additional expense to the 1987 recreation fund budget. One
expense not covered in the 1987 recreation budget will be satellite
service to the park. Based on attendance figures, the number of portable
toilets will vary from month to month, with the peak reached during June
to August. We estimate the need for 60 months of service at $75 per month,
which totals $4,500. This breaks ou'I- as follows:
3 months x 8 satellites 24 months
3 months x 6 satellites tit months
6 months x 3 satellites 18 months
60 months of service.
suggest that PRAC recommend that the City Council approve the Parkers
Lake Master Site Plan as presented by Brauer and Associates, and further
that PRAC authorize the 0frector of parks and recreation to proceed with +he
preparation of plans and specifications for Phase I construction of this park.
The pians and specifI ations for Phase i will be presented for your approval
at a later date. Amore detailed report of costs and funding for Phase I
will also be made of that time. `
Attachments
Mower% Exhibit 1
ponope MO awl l M PUN
11 Estimated
toot T,.ta TNN Phase t Budget
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2. Cloy Pow ewer 1100 Cr 0.00 Moo 4,400,60
3. TgMI I IMprt 1000 Cr 15.00 17, 000.00
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9. Ir C.11.00. flored sMs 10 ILA 189.00 3,100.00
6. 000 Moo AZ/ ?I" #Rd I u 2,100.00 2.100.00
7. W Moor. WID loftow p #60. 60 ard" i"1111 1• Lr 200.00 0.000,00
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44.00 2. 1001Olhes"wep • of v11th 0110 v20 20.700.
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00 9. owled Opp" 4% v 12.00 91000.
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00 12. kwvo roar F lwo I u 50,000.00 A000.
00 I36 IMNNr1M Ia 08 0-- LIMIt/,s utility 1`d") so LI 00.00 30.200.
00 Is, Ll/t ow Of $tw" 2 CA 110.00 1,900.
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00 f160!µ1 210,
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9100r?.00 24 Orth IbMM twv lot Lf 2, 400.00
000;03 1. IorMp1R Service 2 ILA 1,000.00 4.000,00 3,
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Exhibit #2
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (Si2) 559-2900
MEMO
DATE; Otober 3, 1985
TO, Eric Blank, Park b Recreation Director
FROM, Mark Peterson, Park b Environmental Supervisor
SUBJECT PP!OJECTED !MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR PARKERS LAKE CITY PARK
The following data is based on.an approximate 6.6 acre portion of the park.
in which I would anticipate the major portions of maintenance activities
would occur.
MOWING:
1. 208 hrs. @ $6.00 / hr. 1,248.00
2. Equipment 208 hrs. @$7.50 / hr. 1,560.00
TRIMMING:
1. 48 hrs. @$5.50 / hr. 264.00
2. Equipment 24 hrs. @$7.00 / hr. 168.00
BEACH MAINTENANCE - DRAGGING AND HAULING:
1. 40 hrs. @$10.88 / hr. 435.00
2, Equipment 20 hrs. @$22.00 / hr. 440.00
BUOYS - INSTALLED - REMOVED:
1. 32 hrs. @$10.88 348.00
2. Equipment 16 hrs. @$5.00 / hr. 80.00
Opening and closing facilities (Annually)
1. 32 hrs. @:10.88 / hr. 348.00
2. Equipment 16 hrs. @$5.00 / hr. 80.00
MISC. BUILDING MAINTENANCE:
1. 80 hrs. @$10.88 / hr. 870.00
2. Equipment 40 hrs. @$5.00 / hr. 200.00
GARBAGE PICKUP:
1. 80 hrs. @$5.50 / hr 440.00
2. Equipment 40 hrs. 0$5.00 / hr. 200.00
BROADLEAF CONTROL:
1. 8 hrs. @$10.88 / hr. 87.00
Equipment 4 hrs. @$7.00 /' hr. 28.00
3. Materials 90.00
FERTILIZER:
1. 4 hrs. @$10.88 / hr. 43.50
2. Equipment 2 hrs. @$7.00 / hr. 14.00
3. Materials 350.00
PROJECTED MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR PARKERS LAKE CITY PARK CONT.
PLAYSTRUCTURE INSPECTION AND REPAIR IF AVAILABLE,.
1. 28 firs. @$10.88 / hr. 305.00
2. Equipment 14 hrs. @$5.00 / hr. 70.00
PART TIME BEACH MAINTENANCE:
1. 200 hrs. 04.50 / he. 900.00
CHEMICAL CONTROL FOR SWIWERS ITCH L WEEDS: 700.00
SWEEPING OF LOTS: 200.00
STRIPPING OF LOTS .192,99
TOTAL 9,568 50
2-
This is an approximation of the anticipated maintenance costs associated
with Parkers Lake City Park. There may be some miscellaneous costs that
have been omitted however I believe I have coveredthe bulk of the issues.
The majority of these items are already included in the 1986 budget, no
additional costs are forseen. Items not included such as buoys, boats,
a lifeguard are also covered in the 1986 budget.
J
EXh ii b i -r 1/3
PARKERS LAKE BUDGET AND OPERATIONS
Based on Medicine Lake East Beach 1985 Operations)
Beach Hours/Dates
Beaches open Memorial weekend --open for 11 weeks. Beaches close 2nd or 3rd week
in August (depending on weather). Hours: 11 a.m. 8 p.m., seven days/week.
Staff
Salaries are included on budget page (attached). All lifeguards must have the
following certifications upon employment with the City of Pymouth:
1, Advanced Lifesaving and/or Lifeguard Technician
2. Standard firstAid
3. Cardiopulmonary Rescusitation
F our guards are employed by the City.. There is a limit of 40 hours per week
per employee. There are two guards on duty from 12 noon - 7 p.m.; these two
guards work on a split shift. Guard #1 works from It a.m. 7 p.m., Guard a2
works from 12 noon - 8 p.m. Other staff would include the concession stand
workers. One works during the week, and the other works weekends.
Attendance
Attendance at the E-.,, Jeach (totals): 8,030 weekdays (avg. 730' per week).
3,821 weekends (avg. 347 per weekend).
Attendance figures include swimmers, sunbathers, and basically any visitor
at the beach within the lifeguard's sight.
Attendance figures are based on peak times, taken twice daily. Weather is a
significant factor to consider when looking at the above figures. This past
summer there were+ 58 sunnay days and 25 cloudy days. It was not a spectacular
season for swimming. Weather conditions weren't very favorable as compared
to past summers.
Budget
The budget sheets attached include fgures for staffing, supplies, and uniforms.
Once again, this is based on the 1985 budget.
Special Events.
This is the second year the Park and Recreation Department ran a water carnival..
All funding is done through donations and minimal participant fees. The budget
I s based on a break-even basis. Most of the workers are volunteers.
The East Beach is also used for boardsailing lessons by contract with the
Kurzswing Ski Shop in Robbinsdale.
BUDGET PROs S&
Recreation FuM
202.201 007
RECREATION MGM: Beaches
602 TENFORAR'f SALARIES
712 UNIFORMS
766 PARK i REC SUPPLIES
810 OT CON PAD SERV;____
814 REGISTRATIONS
836 RENT PRIMATE PROPERTY
837 RENT PRIVATE EQUIPMENT satellite 230
857 TELEPHJNE 420
899 COKTRACTS TO OTHERS
921 MACHINES i EQUIPMENT
TOTAL REQUESTED 9.280
S
ANTICIPATED RECEIPTS: 0
CALCULATIONS: split shift.- East. Beach, l'lanr7pn, 12 .noon -Spin
7 days/week, 2 guards: 3 guard West Beach alai!-7pm
168 hours/week for 11 weeks = $1,848
plus 112 hours East Beach Memorial weekend
plus 13O hours -extra guards for holidays and
lifeguard training = 2,090 total hours
PROGRAM EXPLANATION:
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BU06iT P9DP06AL
kcrtstion Fund
202-202-158 RECREATION PRDGRAM: Beach Concessions
602 TEMPOFARY SALARIES 1LL ACTUAL
2,240 .
712 UNIFORMS
766 PARK i NEC SLWPLIES
2.800
810 OT CON PRO SERV
814 REGISTRATIONS
r0
36 RENT PP1YATE PRD?ERTY
837 RENT PRIVATE EQUIPMENT
857 TELEPHONE
859 CONTRACTS TO OTHERS
921 MACHINES 6 EQUIPMENT
TOTAL REQUES"7E0: 5,090
ANTICIPATED RECEIPTS: 6,300
CALCULATIONS: 8 hour;/day, 7 days/week for 11 creeks 0 3.85 hourPreparationandtrainingforemployees15hours
PROORM EXPLANATION: