HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 06-14-1984Park and Rec-teation Advisory Commission
Regular Meeting of June 14, 1984, 7.30 p.m.
Plymouth City Center Council Chambers
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2., Approval of Minutes
3. Visitor Presentations
a, Dick Bogen, Wayzata Soccer Club
b. Recreation Staff
c. Others
4. Report on Past Council Action
a, Approved Neighborhood Park Plans.
5. Unfinished Business
a. Community Center Steve Chesebrough will present the results of
the citizens' committee's recommendations.
Most of the meeting will be spent reviewing and discussing the
community center report, so that PRAC is well informed on all
the facts and issues.
b. New Business
a.. 1985 Budgets and CTP
7. Commission Presentation
8.. Staff Communication
9.. Adjourn
Nett meeting - July 12
Minutes of the Special Meeting of the Park and Recreat-'n Advisory Commission
May 23, 1984
Page 14
Present: Chair Threinen, Commissioners Chesebrough, Edwards, Mullan, Dvorak,
Berg and '
Lac
eut ; staff member Blank; visitors from Mapledell1Maple-
creek; to i -.J rhood
The special meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called.
to order at 7:.05 p.m. by Chair Threinen in the Plymouth City Center Council
Conference Room.
I. Park Director Blank presented the final concept plan proposed.for the
Mapse+dell/,Maplecreek neighborhood park which was followed by a brief
discussion between the residents and the Commission.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER SERC AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
EDWARDS TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT PLAN AS PRESENTED FOR THE MAPLEDELL%
MAPLECREEK NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. The m°jtiLr carried with all ayes.
2. Director Blank then presented the, final concept plan proposed for the
Middle East neighborhoeJ park.. No residents of this neighborhood
were present to view the final concept pian.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER EDWrARDS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
DVORAK TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT PLAN AS PRESENTED EOR THE MIDDLE EAST
NEIGHDORHOOD PARK. The motion carried with all ayes.
3. The meeting adjourned at 7:35 p.m.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Coiwissi;on
April 12y 1984
a Page 11
Preseut:. Commissioners Chesebrough,; Edwards, Mullan, Dvorak, LaTour; staff
Blank and Pederson: Anita Vogel (president o Heritage Highlands HOA),
and Carol Brownell (president of Westminster HOA)
Absent: Chain Threinen, Commissioner Berg
1.. CALL TO ORDER
Vice Chairman Chesebr% ugh called the April meeting of the Park and Recreation
Advisory Comission to order at 11:35 p.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
A motion was made by Commissioner Edwards and seconded by Commissioner LaTour
to approve the minutes: of the March meeting. The motion carried with all ayes,
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Association Representatives. None were present at this meeting.
b. Mary, GM, hick. These staff members were not present: at this meeting.
Director Blank discussed some of the programs Cay is offering including
the upcoming Flea Market and summer day camp. He also discussed the
success of Plymouth's first marble tournament conducted.by Gay.
c.. Other. There were no other presentations.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
At their meeting of April. 2, Council approved the Zachary play equipment, the
canoe racks at -the East Beach, and the: projects for two neighborhood parks
in 1984. They also interviewed community center architects on April 10.
5, UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Amendment toCoComprehensive Park System Plan. Director Blank reviewed
the answers too the quer tions whic ad een asked at the public hearing
for those in attendance at this meeting. He also reviewed the options
outlined in his memo to PIAC dated April 4, 19$4, which were.: 1) leave.
the existing park plan as it is showing the 15 -acre site on the north
side of County Road 661, 2) develop the existing site north of County
Road 61 and add a small three to four -acre site on the south side of
County Road 61, 3) develop a small site on the south side of County
Road 61; and develop a new, eight -acre site a block and -a -half or so
north of 23rd Avenue.
A WTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN TO DEVELOP THE EXISTING SITE
NORTH{ OF COUNTY ROAD 51 AND A SMALL THREE TO FOUR ACRE SITE SOUTH OF
COUNTY ROAD 61.. The motion died for lack of a second.
Discussion then followed on how feasible it was to have two parks directly
across the street from each other,
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS TO ADOPT OPTION THREE WITH THE
EIGHT ACRE SITE LOCATED BETWEEN 34th AND 37th AVENUES. THE MOTION WAS
SECONDED BY COMRISSIONER LATOUR. The motion carried on a 3-2 vote with
Commissioners. Dvorak and Mullan voting nay.
COMMISSIONER MULLAN AMENDED THE MOTION TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE SMALL
PARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 61 FROM THREE ACRES TO EI.QiT ACRES.
The amendment was seconded by Commissioner Edwards but failed with
Commissioners LaTour, Dvorak and Chesebrough votfitg nay.
BRAC Mi iutes of Apri l 1Z, 1984
Page 12
A MOTION; WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER KJLLAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LATOUR
TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE LAND NORTH OF
COUNTY 'ROAD 61 ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED AS PARK SITE BE RE -GUIDED TO SINGLE FAMILY
HOMES SINCE IT IS NO LONGER BEING CONSIDERED FOR PARK. The motion carried
with all ayes.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONERDVORAK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN
TO EXPAND THE PARK SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 61 FROM THREE ACRES TO EIGHT ACRES..
The motion failed with Commissioners Edwards, Chesebrough and LaTour voting
nay'.
A, MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
DVORAK TO MOVE, THE SMALL PARK SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 61 FROM ITS CURRENT
PROPOSED SITE TO A NEW LOCATION DIRECTLY EAST AND ABUTTING WEST MEDICINE
LAKE DRIVE. The motion carried unanimously.
b. Parkers Lake North Property -Stage B. Direc?or Blank reviewed the proposed.
concept plan forthe Parkers Lake North. Property -Stage B with the
commissioners. He recommends approval with the condition that the neighbor-
hood park site be modified to allow for a minimum of four acres of dry land
above the 100 -year flood plain. The developer should also show the concept.
plan for the playfield on all plans shared with potential homebuyers. This
plan should be labeled, "Preliminary Concept Plan for Community Playfield."
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
EDWARDS TO ENDORSE THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE IN DIRECTOR BLANK'S MEMO
DATED APRIL 6, 1984. The motion carried unanimously.
c. Community Center - Draft Preliminary Report - Steve Chesebrough.
Commissioner C ese rough reported that at the last meeting of the Community
Center Citizens' Committee, they voted to continue the study of this
project. Their next meeting is Wednesday, April 18, at which time the
architect selected to do the cost estimates will be present to answer any
questions. Commissioner Chesebrough will make an informal presentation
to the City Council on April 23.
d. Selection of Landscape Architect for Neighborhood Park Projects Director
TankTire rete proposal s su mittecl--by twu architects for the
development of two neighborhood parks (Middle East and Mapledell/Maple-
creek) in 1984. Based on the proposals submitted, Director Blank
recommended approval of Damon Farber Associates to do the design, con-
struction plans and specifications for these two parks at a cost not
to e9ceed $10,540. Reimbursable expenses such as mileage, blueprint
reproduction, etc., will be billed at direct cost to the City.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER DVORAK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MULLAN TO ENDORSE DIRECTOR BLANK'S RECOMMENDATION AS OUTLINED IN HIS
MEMO DATED APRIL 11, 1984. The motion carried unanimously.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Agenda - Joint Meeting with Cit Council on MaX 14. Suggestions for
tems to discuss wit t e City Council included,user fees, reviewing
the status of the Comprehensive Park System Plan Priorities I, II, and
III; and a presentation by Marty Jessen on the Medicine. Lake Regional
Park. It was suggested that Director Blank review these items with the
Mayor and City Manager to see if a meating is really necessary.
FRAC Minutes of Apri 1 12. 1984
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7., COWISSION PRESENTATION
Commissioner Edwards asked staff to check on a pile of dirt which. was dumped
last summers in the vicinity of 36th Place N and Pilgrim Lane when a homeowner
built a swimming pool. Dirt is still there.
8, STAFF COMMUNICATION
Director Blank reported that the Rolling Hills Park development, reviewed
at an earlier FRAC meeting, ended up with a five acre park and includes a very
good trail system.
9, ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:44 p.m.
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Mr. Dick Bogen
2115 Xanthus Lane
Plymouth, MM 55447
Dear Dick:
This is a short note to let you know that I have received your letter dated
May 30, 1984. From the information in your letter, it sounds like you've
put together a very exciting and worthwhile soccer tournament, slated for
June 29, 30 and July 1.
As we have in the past, we will strive -alp you in any way we can to
make this event successful for the partic.L,,:ants and the soccer club.
With, regard to your request to waive the fees on the use of the fields,
this is something that I will have to present to the Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission. and City Council for their approval in order to
waive a policy formally adopted by the City Council.
I will foNard your request to the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
at their regularly scheduled meeting of June 14, and to the City Council
at their regularly scheduled meeting of June 18..
I would suggest that you pian to attend both of these meetings to further
help clarify and answer questions which the Park and Recreation Advisory
Commission or City Council may wish to know.
As a precautionary noise, until such time as the City Council has approved
your request, I would suggest that you base your registration fees for the
tournament on our normal field rental policy, which I believe you have a,
copy ot. I will keep you informed of any additional information that is
requited for this matter to be presented to the Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission and City Council. If we can be of further assistance
in any way, please feel free to call Rick Busch or me.
Sincerely,
Eric Blank., Director
Park and Recreation
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3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559.2800
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Benefiting The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation
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Nay 30, 1984
Mr. Eric Blank
Director of Parks and Recreation
city of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Eric:
As you know, we will be. having our seventh annual soccer tournament
on June 29, 30, and July 1, 1984. This year we are pleased to have
been designated as a primary fund raiser for the Minnesota Chapter
of the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. All proceeds derived from the
tournament (above the actual expenses incurred) will be donated to
the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation for the benefit ofchildren that have
this disease.
We respectfully request that you waive the normal fees that you ;:barge
for the fields for this tournament. Naturally, we would expect to
reimburse the. City of Plymouth for any actual expenses incurred in
their support of this tournament, i.e., such as field maintenance.
You have supported our tournament in the past by waiving these field
charges and charging us only the actual expenses incurred. For this
we are most appreciative and hope that you will be in a position to
grant the same exception this year since the tournament is being put
on for such a worthy cause.
We would also like to use the large tent again at Oakwood.
In the event that you have any questions about the involvement of
Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, you may contact the Executive Director
for the Minnesota Chapter, Margaret Carlson at 871-0462.
Si.ncexely,
Dick Boger.
c M. Carlson, Cystic Fibrosis Foundation
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TDURNAMEMT PARK USAGE APPLICATrQN
1. Organization N'' 'i4gk,?- P c c.Aa7- 2,
2. Person in Charge: Name D1 C,e fi o i
Address 19'r 1Sa '.
Phone. Home_ 11 y -7 Work
3. Dates Desired,. - ave
4x'n\ 9,c,64- 4 Fields DeairedCAoyr-T ' Ctiv' -S
5. Is the tournament sanctioned?Lf-S. By who?2,a
6. Will food be sold? C Will beer be sold??._
7• Equipment needed: Bases Liners., Lime
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Drag Building Keysd?"'o,,o,
9.. Fields: Plyr,outh Groups Outside:Gro u.ps.. • • t-' `=-A' i
Baseball /Softball aseba _ l Softball PIZ<
These 1 game-$10/field 1 game-$20/field
are 2-$20/field, 3+-$40/field 2-$40/field, 3+460/field
per day Football/Soccer Football,/Soccer
charges)
1 game-$15/field l ame-$20/field
2-$30/field, 3+-$60/field 2440/field, 3+-$80/field
Field Charges (per day) $ . e'er' l it , t f 2.
Lights ($15/hr/field, $12/hr/rink $ e, -
Chalk ($3/bag) $ c ola- "!S G --
Staff ($6/hour) $ 1tilS
Tent ($150) .ti 1 '7-"' '''-"
IUTNL USAGE FEE $
100 DEPOSIT DUE AT TIME OF APPLI AV.>4,
i, iCA..- p understand that ~a part or all of
the eposit fee will be forfeited- i con ttion of the park requires extra duties
for the P rk and R creation. Department, and that I and the representative organi-
zation r'sp ble for conduct of participants and any resulting damages.
Signature ate
Tournament raquest granted Rejectedr
Park and Recreation Director's Signature
Date
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MEDICINE LAKE MANAGMff T TASK FORCE MEETING
April 17, 1986
7:00 p.m., Plymouth City Miall
TASK FORCE MEMBERS PRESENT: Eric Blank, Chairman, Mike. Brandt, Virg Schneider,
Dennis Erickson, Bob Scribner, Karen Loechler,.
Steve Chesebrough, Marty Jessen
TASK FORCE MEMBERS ABSENT Earl. Bancroft, John Mullen
1. Review Past Winter's Use
Jessen reported that the 'Park Dist Ki.ct had operated Medicine Lake as per
the progran described at the October meeting and.that generally operations "
had gone fairly well.. Use included 6981 cross country ak3eis: 21.7'9 'ice
f ishinA users, lend_623_plodders. He indicated that t1he,_fac ,,that th r*
was no shelter, a relatively lisited trail system, and: limited promotion, the
District was quite pleased with the extent of use during,the winter of 1983-1984.
Jessen reported that closing the gate at sunset had caused some difficulty for
ice fishermen trying to get off the lake and that the District had experienced.
some vandalism to the Park gate as a result of it being closed while people
were still out fishing. He indicated that a call log had been established to
determine to What extent people called in regarding the Medicine Lake situation
and indicated that only two calls had been received. As a result of this limited
responae, it was determined to continue with the hours of operation that had
been discussed, last gall.
Blank reported that Plymouth never opened ciRe east beach access for ice
fishermen because Hardy's nearby providedan acceptable substitute. The city
approved permits for ice fishing contests on Medicine Lake this winter as they
have in the past. Blank reported that no prdblema were created with this
situation this past winter to his knowledge. 1,oechler indicated that if any
ice fishing contest has prize money of more that: 82,000, a DNR permit is required. -
She will check to see if DNR has a basic.information sheet regarding rules and
regulations for contests and send it out to the Task Force. Site also suggested
that Plymouth sight ask for a percent of the profit if any,',:u is attempting to
sake money off a fishing contest. Schneider indicated that those contests in
Plymouth in 1983 and 2984 were for charitable causes.
Loechler reported that 1983-84 was a good'.winter for Medicine Lake use as
observed by the DNR conservation office. She indicated that they had not
encountered a great number of enforcement problems nor had they seen such
debris left on the lance at the end of the season.
Scribner indicated that at the recent ADAC meeting there were many favorable
comments about how the winter had gone with respect to lake use and park
operations and there were no complaints regarding behavior problems or overuse.
Loechler asked if the Plymouth Police Department went onthe lake to control.
winter use. Schneider indicated that they did not take their squad cars on.
the lake because, if the car goes through the ice, the officer is personally
liable for replacing tho car. Brandt indicated that the Sheriff's Water Patrol
MEDICIN$ LAKE MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE REE'T`ING, p. 2,
doesn't patrol lake surface use in the county to any extent except perhaps for some
snowmobile patrol on Lake Minnetonka.
I. Preview Upcoming Use and Observation Program for the Summer of 1984
Jessen reported that the District its preparing full-scale park operation
beginning the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend at which time Ca beach will
be guarded', concession stand will be in operation, boat rentals will bo
available, and the shuttle system will be in service. He indicated than all
vehicles would be required to park in the remote parking areas with the
exception of cars with trailers launching at the access.Dircussion ensued
regarding how the District was going to enforce this regulation. Jessen
indicated that parking attendants would be on duty both at the gatehouse at
the main parking lot and that rangers would be patrolling the area down by the
beach.
Blank reported that Plymouth will open its beaches also on the Saturday of
Memorial Day weekend. In addition, Plymouth will be teaching I,t; 'Water-
skiing,. windsurfing, sailing and swimming at its beaches. A new feature at
the beach will be a canoe rack which citizens can rent for the storage of their
personal canoe (rentals will not be available in Plymouth parks). Finally,
Blank reported that the east beach playground will be done in May before the
v4.--;nor.ial Day weekend.
Scribner expressed concern for the total number of boats being accessed to the
lane from.the various parts. Specifically, he referred to the 60 trailered
boats at the Regional Park plus additional car :op boats plus the rental
boats plus the canoes that will be stored at Plymouth's rack and the
additional promotion of lessons particularly for. waterskiing. He expressed.
a concern that in time this would likely lead to no power bating at all on
Medicine lake because of the conflicts that would.be created between power
boaters and the additional non -power boaters accessing through the park.
Specifically, Scribner and Erickson questioned Plymouth's having water ski
lesson at Maditine Lake, feeling that it was really a business attempt by the
city to make money for the city recreation fund. Schneider indicated that
he thought it was appropriate because the city's interest is to teach skills,
not realize a lot of profit.
Jessen also reviewed research activity Which the Park District will be under-
taking during the susmser of 1984 including the following.
Lifeguards at the Plymouth beaches and at the District beaches will
take boat observation counts as they did in 1983.
e Gates cv.ints will be recorded as an attendant will be on duty seven
days,a weak, Memorial Day Saturday through Labor Day..
Time lapse photography will be used to record the kind of activities
that occur at the boat launch, the beach, the concession building and
the: shuttle stop -at the parking lot.
e Shuttle operators will record loading and unloading destination points
for the riders on the shuttle system.