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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Packet 11-10-1983StRegular Meeting of the. plyMouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission e r 10, 1983 7 30 p.m. AGENDA 1, Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes. 3. Visitor Presentations a. Mary Patterson and Rick Busch b. Dave Ferrens - NHPAA c. Others 4. Report on Past Council Action 5. Unfinished Business a. L.AWCON/LCMR Grants 1-088-84 b. Play Equipment Plymouth Creek, LaCompte, Cast Beach c. Pilgrim Lane PTA Request d, Athletic Association. Insurance - see attached letter 6. New Business a. Request from Westminster Homeowners Association for Neighborhood Park b. Golf in Playfelds c. Rental of Canoe Racks and Sail Boat Moorings d. Community Center Review - Steve Chesebrough. Commission Presentation 8, Staff Communications, 9. AdJournment 10, Joint. Meeting with City Counc'i'l - Tuesday, November 9, 5,30 p.m, Next meeting date - December 8, 5c30 p.m, (with dinner) Minutes of the Regular ?Meeting of the Park. and Recreation ,Advisory commission E October 13 1983 page 20 Presents Comissiaanerr Chesebroughk Edwards, Threioen, Mullan, Dvorak and Serqk staff Blank, Patterson and Pedersviii, Pilgrim Mane PTA representative Len Theide 1, CALL TO ORDER I Chair Threinen called to order the regular meeting of the Plymouth 4'FarC. and Recreation Ad,vfisory Conmi'ssi'on on Octcbet, 130 1983, at 7,35 p.m., 24 APPROW IF MINUTES Chair T6 `noo corrected the minutes of September, 1, page 16, item 3. b, from 118Z Aebd"to "8O attending." following this correction, a motion was aide by Commissioners Ehetebrough to approve the minutes as corrected., The motion carried. 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a.. Athletic Asiociation Representatives.;, None Were present at this meeting b, dart Patterson and Rick 'Busch. Mary handed out comparisons between the astwosunnier s program enrollment and a second chart showing year -to- date totals for her programs, She also discussed a metmo she sent to Eric. regarding this year's beach concessions and suggestions she has for next. year's season. Rick also had hand-outs for the commissioners in his absence; he was videotaping soccer gashes and unable to attend the meeting. 4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION a, 1984 Budget. The budget was, approved at the October 3 Council meeting, with t' ,e exception of our showootle', Director Bland; stated that the: Council wants our Shade Tree program to promote the care and maintenance of healthy trees, e,g. reforestation of our urban forest. Steve Cook, the. City's forester will be doing a number of informational/educational "short subjects11 fori the City's c.,.able tv channel on tree maintenance, gardening, etc, DirectorBlank discussed briefly other aspects of the budget and answered questions regarding various categories. While on the subject of the budget, Commissioner Chesebrough 'mentioned that Bob Sorenson of the NHPAA had approached him about attending our next PRAC meeting in order to discuss the fees outlined fn the Mayor"s. Task. Force Report. b, Parkers Labe Planned Develo nt, Council approved Phase I of this project afthetr as meeting. Phase covers that area between Vicksburg and Dunkirk Lanes. c. Final Payment - Zachar Fence Project. The fencing of tha three ballfields at Zachary Flayffeld ii noir comp e e and the bill has been paid,. 5. UNRNISHED BUSINESS at LA I MR Grants: 1983_84. Director Blank stated that our 1984 LAWCON gran sou be comp eteiy'processed within a month,. He also explained our status regarding our 1984 application. He is confident that, although ie are not ranked number one in all considered categories, we have a very good chance to be funded'. PRAC Minutes of October 13, 1983 Page, 21: b. P a ui nt - Plymouth Creek LaComP—to East Bench. All major pieces of pl. eqv p!nert a r ip` e ed at Plymouth an LaCampte Parks. Beach construction will begtri wewk of Octother 17. c. Letter from Gary Welch re! Son's In ur at Lions Park, Director Blank Feminaid the comm ss oners of this Incident that too place this past summer at Mons Park during a youth baseball game sponsored by the Wayzata, Plymouth Baseball Association. Mr. Welch is asking the City's insurance to cover some of the costs associated,with his son's injury. Our City attorney is 'looking into this matter now to determine if the City is liable in this type of injury, ie,, a non -City sponsored event. PRAC needs to consider establishing a policy whereby Athletic Associations would be required to carry some form of liability insurance before they would be allowed to use our facilities. This item will be discussed at PRAC's next work session. b` aEW Ma"AS'Lane PTA Request. len Theide; representing the: Pilgrim Lane PTA, appeared before the Commission to show them a model of playground equipment their organization designed and is proposing for installation at the Pilgrim Lane neighborhood park, He briefly explained how this project began and its current status, He estimates that the completed project, as proposed, would cost approxirm telt' $50,000 with the parents providing the labor to construct the equipment. Once the project is completed, the PTA will donate it to the Pilgrim Lane Elementary School, and they would then be responsible for its maintenance. Mr. Theide commented that the PTA would be very grateful if the City could contribute some financial assistance toward completing this project, Chair Threinen asked Director Blank to research two areas of this project prior to the: November meeting and be -Fore FRAC makes any recommendations. One is the safety factor of the proposed equipment, and second is to cost out the project, Director Blank pointed out that our involvement in this project may encourage other schools that act as neigh- borhood park sites to ask our support for similar projects. It was suggested that our financial contribution could be 50% of what we would normally spend to build play equipment in a neighborhood park, rather than 50% of what this organization has proposed. Play equipment already in place at Pilgrim lane is about one-third of what is installed at Plymouth Creek Park, PRAC will make their recommendation at the November meeting. b. Review Winter Skating Rink Locations, The Commission reviewed a map of last yea7s r n ocat onsand scusse -the sites for the winter of 1983--84. The sites will remain the same With the exception of Gleanloch and Heritage Estates. Gleanloch is being dropped at the request of the homeowners, and Heritage Estates is being deleted due to lack of flat land.. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BERG AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CHESEBROUGH TO APPyOYE THE RrNK LOCATIONS PROPOSED FOR 1983-84 AS OUTLINED IN DIRECTOR BLANK'S MEMO OF OCTOBER 10, 1983, THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES. c. Review NRPA Conference and MRPA Conference. Director Ri ank discussed some o, the seminars he at ended ur ng t s year's annual National Recreation and Parks Association Congress held in Kansas City in early October. Of particular interest to h.im was the Overland Community Center located in Overland, Kansas.. Cha,i`r Threttlen reminded the commissioners that she is still looking for a member to chair the Community Center Citizen Committee. PRAC Minutes of ortober 131, 1993 Page, ZZ Commissioner Chesebrough volunteered for this responsibility, Director Blank. announced that the annual MRPA Conference will be held in Rochester in November, t4oney is budgeted for FRAC members to attend, Members should inform Nancy if they wish to go to all or part of the, conference, d, Joint Meeting with City,Council, Tuesday, November Z9, has been. chosen as t, a date for the:joint meeting between PRAC and the City Council It will begin at 5.30 p.m. and will include a Light dinner. suggested agenda items include: the community center, athletic associations carrying liability insurance, fees to be charged to users of our facilities, and requests by PTA's/citizen groups to fund playground equipment at school sites that serve as neighborhood parks: 7, CCh'X'' MION PRESENTATION The FRAC work session will be held on Thursday, December 8, and will be part of the regular menthly meeting, to order to cover both a regular meeting agenda and the wore sessiol,, the meeting will begin at 5130 p,m. In order for PRAC to preparo for discussing user fees, Dtrectot+ Blank Will submit to them, 1xrior to the meeting, costs associated with, the operation of the recreation programs, field' maintenari e, etc, B. STAFF COMMUNKATION Director Blank shared with the commission some preliminary sketches of Phase I1 of the Lundgren eros, development, Chair Threinen asked each. commissioner to think of someone who might be interested fn filling the vacancy on the Cormission and she welcomed Steve Ches.ebrough as the new Vice Chair: 9, AWOORNMENT' A motion Was ma.G'e by Commissi;oner Rerq and seconded by Commissioner Dvorak to 4d4ourn at 9.15 p,m, CITY QF PLYMOUTH 3100 PLYMOUTH 9lVQ„ PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447 TELEPHONE (612) 559-28Q0 OATE: November 7 1983' Tp, FROM: PRAC- Eric: Blank CLARK, AND RECREATION DERARTMENT MEMO SUBJECT, Citizen Request for Allowing Golf in Community Playfields On October 18, 1983, PaulKuzma appeared before the City Council to make a request with regard. to allowing golf on community playfields. The City Council referred this matter to the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission for review. T asked Paul to send me a letter outlining specifically what he would like. Currently, the Pipputh" Citi, Code, Section 805,01 Park Regulations; Subd. 9, reads "Golfing. No person shall engage in golfing practice with other, than light plastic hollow balls and then only at areas designated for such Practice." We have signed the community playfields as "no golfing allowed," our number one concern with this is the use of irons on the gpass causes the removal of divots, and if done often enough, could cause us a tremendous amount of maintenance regarditng community playfields. obviously, the second reason is the matter of safety, Even though it may appear at times that there is. not a large n°umber, of people at the playfield, someone, could be. hitting a ball, and at the same time another person could come riding through the playfield on one of the trails, or be jogging, and possibly be struck by the golf ball, Because we have no way of administering or regulating a safe time to hit practice balls, the only way we can adequately patrol this matter is to abide by the rule of no golfing allowed in the community playfields. There are a number of privately owned driving ranges located. within the; City where this type of activity can take place, If the Commission feels that this request warrants setting aside land far this specific purpose, direction should be given to staff to further review the matter in terms of looking at public grounds that may be adequate and safe to use for such activities, Recommendation: r would recommend. that the Park and Recreation Advisory T&m— ss on recommend that the City Council make no change in the current policy which prohibits golfing at the community. playfields, n"p Attachment Now loom krmmwm I 4,f 0-0 X Az ZZ K tt Lo cvj t," AAft + :it ft ,A t k It ,44 N IL vtz e v, 0 lie A 1'k -Ve t t Minnesota open.. meeting law A recent Supreme Court decision. clarifies the law On my 1$1 1l1d8, the Mhnoesots Suplsarte Court ended a bttgshnd s:ontraversy to to the meaning ofi.l i' under the Minnesota open Moet tg Law when k bWA%d down its deeiaan in Moberg Y. Independent Sol otar L*&kict >bh. Most public boil. in have been acting under an attorney Ile!1"W's opinion, that views diaevs., nous relating to Official business between two members of a five -mem- ber body ss a meeting. Repettg its ruling in a prior de+eas m which was wt dear, RubbornfBr ', 9 v, CWY of Mtms, the court said thatIt600" between two members of a Vvetnting body' about a matter before this body is not a per se violston of the Open Meeting Law. 'Therefore, the UOb ter csoe ends the magnyVew that whsnev er less limn a quorum of go'vetn- meatt O&ikls discuss, dtlic matters, the 0&WB must Wuw OW Meeft Law reWinettet. The Court's decision supplements the Open MeetingMeeting Statute which does no( define 16 Meeting. i,. Do Court. said that seri,! meetings 0( gra 0(, le" then a quorum for the purposes of grading: Public or la nsement on an issue may be tion of the statute de:pertding on theitdirF tdual catse. This important warningindicatesthatthecourtwilllookatthe intent of pu fi afficisb me by an to deternnae whether their Puryoee was to avoid public discussion which would. F be a violation of the Open MeetirgLaw, Several at6ens of the Robb dale School district brought the Moberg . ON before the costrt. The arse greed much attention, and on appeal the Minnesota Supreme Court received several Allskiwa cutise briefs on both Bides of the issue. (An amicus curiae brief is Ore is whoh ra persa i, not a. 06 in Sing 0 amicus of the deleldants the t an the • and bond members) arguing that Open Meetng Lau applies, only s of at least a quorum members of a loverYnt public body, The tobbinsdale School Board hi held numerous public meetings on th issue of dosing owe of its par schools dues to decreased enrobnen During. this lengthy decision-::vkin Ps' m, the board became dead ock o its decision a8 to which school tdose. '!'Ile plaintiffs (the people brought the rail. to court) said that PW to the fin) board vote, members violated of the Open Mee LAW on 17 occasions. They sough p sties of a $100 dile against board member for each occurrence removal of the. members firm office, and an invalidation of the bowd's Sion to dose RobWnsdaie Senior School, Of the 17 alleged violations, 14 were gatherings of two board, members where they discussed the deadlocked WAW issue, The Minnesota Supreme Court reversed the trial court`s decision, saying that "the pili- vete discussions were conducted for the purpose of breaking the deadlock rather thus for achieving some secret` ntended result," The Court added that ir10clearmWOrttywarworking togeth- er, nor were members using improper fluence or Pressure. The general rule the Court met forth in Moberg is that Suasion and discussion within agen. can becomes improper when members kntend to avoid pubic discussion uta. gether, try to gain a nyprity prick to P hearings on an issue, or try to hide bgxgvr influences such u the penoW or financial interest of a public oll W. petty is the care but usually an attor in ay, "kmteers written i hrmatim, its Court arganrteet, or evidence to , ,It is the duty of public ofbciais W mento+ sor Protect lair/ to persuade each other in an attemptTheLeaag>te of Minrte to resolve ,rues, and it makes tittlesotsCitiesjoinedtheCityofMinnesp. sent to suggest that they nay listen 4 i Jean Mh~itohell. Research Aadsta -,- UJO stile to a group a( nonmembers on important filet matters but not to tkair colleagues, the who maybe mote expert on the subject; to than any other, person{i and "there is of a pant beyond which open discussion requirements may serve to imnwbi&e a body and prevent the resolution of important problems.1$ sic Within this common sense resson. ts, ing, the court recognized that "there g is a way to illegally circumvent any rule ed the court might fashion, WW therefore, a it is sfnpartant that the rule not be so who restI`ktive as to lose the public benefit of personal discussion between public bond off! ahs while g little assurance of tiro 0. aess." After looking at the legis t lative history of the Open Meeting Law each the COQA' determined that °'the law was not intended to apply to informal discussions between: a few colleagues ilea- or to groups too small to effect a Nigh decision on agencybusiness.. The Court said that "meetings suw Wt to the requirements of the op!n Meeting Law are those gatherings of a quonun or more members of the gcv ening body, Or a QUO= of a contnlit tee, subcommittee, board, department or commission thereof, at which mem- bers discuss, decide or receive infor motion as A= on issues relating to the ofcW business of that governingbody," Because each of the 14 gather- mp had less than a quorum and there was no indication of intent to avoid public dismission, the court refused to rind the gatherings to be a violation of the Open Meeting haw, The plaintiffs also alleged that three other violations occurred from tele- phone conversations between board members. Thr court readily disposed, Of this argument and the additional argument of the Minnesota EducationalAssociationwhich, claimed that exchange of written correspondence is 1180 a violation, The Supreme Court said 'lithe statute does not apply tolettersOr, to telephone conversations between fewer than a qtwrum.0 T1* last deption involved a gath. miof athe board mernbers in the l s office Am* beforse a regulariBae htrial artg.IU ms's 111dilg that the gathering was: a rioisdon of the Open Mee* Law because it bund that the evidence autppomd the fact that no die atasiort took place. The superint, 6-, tnet'ely distributed written copies of questions and answers and imlid the members to react individually after they had read the material. The ane Court found that the nature of the group receipt of Wormadon or croup discussion did not constitute a meetly under the MiAesots Open Meeting statute. The Court interpreted the issue of receh* information or discusam, in St. OOW Neweplt m, Inc. Y. D"id 70 Carmnurlr'gr Sc clod = N.W. id Rhin. 1963i. In that sae the Court Edd that PtheriM of scltod board members at a private sleeting to pro. gide bac vund i 6cmation concern ng lasues currently before the board whkh could valence later board decisions were meetings under the Open Meet,- ioff Law. AWW&SL to the Court the distinc tion between the activities in Md'ierg and in St, CAW Newspapers is that in 1llobeiT "the distribution of written Questions and answers was f ffic6way the equivalent to receivng the infor mation through the nwi, which is per- missible under our present holding," Apparently, the private pther* in St, GJoi d Newspapers involved corremwu taltion through lecture and d acus on which was not equivalent to receiving information thlrotigh the mail.. Although endless varisti«a of such "equivr. lents" eidat, it is dear from the tone of the 1Nobm decision that, reptdless of the et ti%*, the court will look to the intent behind the conurnuliation and not to the form of coaununintion,. The last issue before the court was whether invalid ting the board's _&W decision was the appropriate remedy for violation of the Open Meeting Law. Akhough the Court did not have to review this ianle because it found no viobtions, it held that the prolwr ave. Due for jrrdCW review of a school dosing dedsion Is a writ of certiorari, T dedsion means that: of less than a *W= Of public body meed not cmply withiti requirements of the Open Meetings Law if there is no intent to avoid public om&el low, discussion. Pin a 7 in advance of public hearings on the Hullo. or bide inproper bduences. Members of p 6k bodies must keep n mind that the Court will look to the intent of public aiiciais who n*et privately reprdie of the number or the form of thein Mires. a/oaeM r, bdrPMJf tt Sdaa1 Acarus Al N.W. 2d tMim. jn3), iRitrsx atx' Cotta amt owreatr can WOO udW4,1 15,1963, docket no, allot, lot, p, a. Atloraar c .aN's OpWoe MS Op. 471-t, oct. 1M, 1974). 1{ttOAsrd fiber, Jac. Y. CitY of A&A, 33 N.rti, 3d 757 (]Nim. 1963)..6 ANFINSON l HENDRICKSON At CO. CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS NEEDS ASSESSMENT COMPUTER FEASIBILITY STUniE5, AUWTSIADVISOAY SERVICES RATE STUDIES BUDGETS -SPECIAL LEVIES P&* Nsibnal bank Building wamts aivd. • .suite 410 Mlnnaafw 10, MN 86416 Q:H v will your city kepp waste collection costs down? 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Browning- Ferris Industries, P.0, Sox 1375, Mine• spoils, Mi wwoots 55440, Phone (012 041.5957, Attention: Taffy Stewart, 111411 W d(i.FERltls fNDtJSTt11Ef Regular Meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission November 10, 1983 Page 2 Present: Chair Threinen, Commissioners Chesebrough, Mullan, Dvorak and Berg; Planning Commissioner Magnus; Public Works Director Moore; staff Blank, Busch, Patterson and Pederson; Dave Ferrens representing the NHPAA; Len Thiede representing the Pilgrim Lane PTS; and Carol Brownell representing the Westminster HOA Absent. Commissioner Edwards 1. CALL TO ORDER: Chair Threinen called the November meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to order at 7.32 p.m. in the Plymouth City Center Council. Chambers, 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion was madeby Commissioner Berg and seconded by Commissioner Chesebrough to approve the October meeting minutes as presented. The notion carried with all ayes. 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. ry Patterson and Rick Busch. Mary announced that the next issue of 41ymouth on Para e, contait.g winter program information, will be in the homes the week. of November 21. Some of this winter's changes include an expanded youth skiing program with the addition of a new Friday Night High Schcol Ski Trips program, and the change from Breakfast with Santa to Lunch with Santa co-sponsored by the Plymouth Jaycee Women. Rick's new programs include Youth After School Sports at Oakwood and Birchview for 5th and 6th graders offering the sports floor hockey and volleyball, New programs for adults include 4 -man and 4 -woman broomball and men's floor hockey. Warning houses will open December 17, weather permitting. Rick will begin interviewing warming house attendants in the next couple of weeks.: b. Dave Ferrens - NHPAA. Mr. Ferrens, the 1984 president of NHPAA, discussed the bakgroun& oFiat organization and the various sports they offer, He indicated that 3,000 individuals participated in the NHPAA this past year, and 25-30% of those participants were Plymouth youth He praised Rick Busch for the excellent work he has done with the NHPAA and stated that he would like to continue to maintain the good relationship between the City and the NHPAA. Commissioner Dvorak asked Mr. Ferrens if he had any comments or concerns regarding the Mayor's Task Force Report on Park and Recreation Program Financing. Mr. Ferrens indicated that he was not real familiar with the policies proposed in the report, but that he did understand fees would possibly be implemented; sometime In the future. He would like to be kept informed of any decisions the City makes regarding the policies outlined in the task force report. Staff will send some additional copies of the report to Mr. Ferrens for distribution to NHPAA board members who are Plymouth residents. 4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION There was nothing to report on this 'item. 5 UNFINISHED BUSINESS a., LAWCON/LCMR Grants 1983-84. We now have title to two parcels of land that will be part of est Medicine Lake City Park. The third parcel is still being negotiated due to she owner's disagreement over the appraisor's vd.O nation of the property. Our app;ication for 1984 grant money has been. I PRAC Minutes of November 10, 1983 I: Page 24 ranked number six. Director Blank indicated that funding was available E at this time for only prof acts ranked one through five. b. P1Equipment- Plymouth Creek., CreeT k, LaCompte East Beach. All major pieces. o pay equipment or these poresparks ,,'save been constructed. and installed., c. Director Blank expects work on these parks to be completed by the end of the year: Pilgrim Lane PTA Request., The Pilgrim Lane PTA, represented by Len Thiede, appea eforeFRAC at their October meeting and presented them with a model of the proposed playground equipment along with a request for some, financial assistance. Staff was directed, to review the safety of the playground equipment prior to PRAC making any recommendation at the. November meeting. Director Blank indicated that, after his review, he was satisfied with the safety of the playground model. He also outlined the costs to install and construct the playground equipment at several of Plymouth's other neighborhood parks.. Based on these figures, and the fact that Pilgrim Lane currently has three potces of playground apparatus, he is recommending that FRAC approve the allocation of $10,000 over a two year period to help fund'`the project, with the understanding that the PTA can make an additional request for funding in future years_. He also pointed out that the equipment, once installed, becomes the property of the school district and is their responsibility to maintain and they would also be liable for its safe use. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER DVORAK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BERG TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE $5,000 FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE YEARS 1983 AND 1984, AND FURTHER THAT THEY BE AWARE THAT THE PTA IS INVITED TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IN FUTURE YEARS TOWARD THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT. THE MAINTENANCE AND LIABILITY OF THIS EQUIPMENT WILL BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT`S RESPONSIBILITY. The motion carried with all ayes. In anticipation of PRAC's action on this request setting a precedent, the Commission asked Director Blank to establish some written guidelines for other organizations to follow before they make similar requests for funding. These guidelines should stipulate that the organization requesting financial assistance must present a well-planned playground design and the location of the equipment must be a school site that also serves as a neighborhood park. d. Athletic Association Insurance. PRAC began studying this issue last summer w en a youth was n urs at ons Park during an athletic association sponsored baseball game:. Discussions between staff and the City's attorney and insurance agent have revealed that the City can be held liabls for injuries occuring at our facilities inspite of the activity being sponsored by a group other, than the City. PRAC is now considering whether or not outside organizations should be required to carry some form of insurance prior to being given pe n0,sston to use our facilities. Commissioner Dvorak suggested that the City should take out an additional policy that would cover any injuries that might occur during non -City sponsored events. He believes that this additional insurance would be minimal in cost. This item will be discussed in further detail during the joint meeting between 'the City Council and PRAC scheduled for November 29. f PRAC Minutes of November 10, 1983 Page 25 6zNEW BUSINESS a. Request from Westminster HOA for Neighborhood Park. Director Blank reviewed s memo regar ,:ng this -request and showed a map Fo the Commission using the overhead projector. When the Comprehensive Park System Plan was prepared, one neighborhood park was proposed for this area which was to serve both neighborhoods 23 and 27. Neighborhood 27 was also to be served by the development of West Medicine Lake City Park., With the development of new County Road Si, the location of this proposed neighborhood park is no longer suitable Access to the park for both neighborhoods requires crossing County Road 61 which is unacceptable to the residents in these two areas. Therefore,; Director Blank is recommending the development of two parks, one in each neighborhood. This will require a public hearing and an amendment to the Comprehensive Park System Plan. A MOTICN WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER'CHESECRCUGH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PARK SYSTEM PLAN BASED ON THE FECUEST BY THE WESTMINSTER HOA AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW COUNTY ROAD 61. The motion carried with all ayes. b. Golf in Playfields. Director Blank received a letter from a resident. requesting. 5a.t golfing practice be permitted in the City's playfields. He is recommending against this request due 'to the increased maintenance it might create and the possibility of injuries occuring to pople using the playfield trails or other groups using the playfields, The commissioners discussed the possibility of developing an area where this type of activity could be held, possibly in Plymouth Creel; Park or one of the larger City parks. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BERG AND SECONDED BY COMM1ISSIONER CHESEBROUGH RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAKE NO CHANGE IN THE CURRENT POLICY PROHIBITING GOLF IN COMMUNITY PLAYFIELDS. The motion carried with all ayes. c. Rental of Canoe Racks and Sailboat Moorings. Director Blank presented the mea of the rents o-f—cano-racks and/or sailboat moorings at some of the City's lakes beginning next summer. There are a number of lakes he believes where this might be feasible, and he feels that it could be revenue producing for the recreation fund. Director Blank will research costs to install canoe racks and report the findings at the January or February meeting. d. Community Center Review. Commissioner Chesebrough attended a meeting with Director Blank abd Richard Peterson of North Memorial Hospital in order to'discuss and 'hear Mr. Peterson's _ reaction to a wellness based community center. Mr. Peterson seemed to favor it. A citizen committee to study a community center for Plymouth is in the process of being formed now.. Invitati'cns to Plymouth residents and organizations will be mailed out regarding a tour of area community centers to take place on Saturday, December 3. Director Blank announced that Alan Brass had returned to Plymouth and will be on the citizen committee. Steve Chesebrough is the chairman of this committee. 6. Hidden Valley Development, Director Blank showed overhead visuals depicting a propose development called Hidden Valley. This development is a rectangular piece of property 40 acres in size lying between Vicksburg Lane and Nathan Trails development just north of 45th Avenue. The Comprehensive Park System Plan calls for a neighborhood park to De developed on this Property. Staff indicated that they have worked 1, PRAC Minutes of November 10, 1983 Page 26 with the developer and: he has concurred with the inclusion of five and one-half arses of dedicated park on their .plat. The developer has asked that a northerly trail connection out of their plat not be required as part of the platting process. Staff recommended that this northerly trail connection; be included because it is the only possible location for a north -south tra.il corridor which would be the primary entrance to the neighborhood park. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MULLAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CHESEBROUGH RECOMMENDING THE COUNCIL ACCEPT THE PLAN AS PROPOSED WITH THE INCLUSION OF A TRAIL CORRIDOR TO THE NORTH ALLOWING FUTURE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA ACCESS TO THE PARK. The motion carried with all ayes. 7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION Chair Threinen reminded PRAC of the joint meeting with the Council to be held on Tuesday, November 29 at 5;30 p.m., and the early work session to be held at 5:30 p.m. on Thursday, December 8. 8. STAFF COMMUNICATION Director Blank shared with the commissioners a few slides taken during his stay in Kansas. while the NRPA Congress was in session. Slides included. a "children's farm," moto-cross bike track, trails, open air shelter and the 10 -field Miller athletic complex. The City has begun advertising the half-time recreation specialist position which will be available beginning in January.. Staff has entered into a contract to host another USSSA softball tournament over the Labor Day weekend in 1984. Revenues generated would be approximately 6,500 and will help fund the new recreation specialist.. 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.