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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 12-13-1995CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING COMMISSION MVffjTES DECEMBER 13, 1995 MEMBERS PRESENT. Chairman Mice Stulberg, Commissioners Barb Stimson arrived at 7:06 p.m.), Virginia Black; Christian Preus, AllenKibbe, Linda Oja and Saundra Spigner MEMBERS ABSENT- None STAFF PRESENT: Director Anne Hurlburt Planning Supervisor BarbaraSenness, Senior Planner Iohn Keho, Planner Shanvn Drill, City Engineer Dan Faulkner, and Planning Secretary DeniseHutt 1. Call to Order: The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m. 7• Public Forum: None 3, Approval ofAgenda: Approved unanimously. 4. Approval of Minutes: MOTION by Commissioner Black, seconded by Commissioner Preus to recommendapprovaloftheNovember28, 1995 minutes. Vote. 5Ayes, MOTION carried unanimously. (Commissioner Ribbe abstained) S. Consent Agenda No items 6. PUBLIC BEARINGS A• '*VAYNEJESKEASSOCIATES (95116) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Wayne Jeske Associates for a ConditionalUsePermit, Site Plan, Lot Consolidation and Variance for construction of West LutheranHghSchoollocatedsoutheastofHarborLaneand34thAvenue, Senior Planner Keho gave an overview of tho December 4, 1995 staff report, noting thatStaterequirementsdonotapply, as this is a private school, a a Planning Commission.Miinutes December 13, 1995 Page 4228 Commissioner Spigner questioned why a fire lane was not required for the west side of the building. Senior Planner Keho responded that the fire lane was not required as this is a future building expansion site and the building will be sprinkled. Commissioner Black asked if there is a trail system available near the proposed project. Senior Planner Keho clarified that there is an existing trail along both the west side of Fembrook Iane and the north side of 34th Avenue North. Commissioner Black wanted to know if park dedication was an issue for this proposal, as it was for Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church. Senior Planner Keho stated that Condition #71 of the approving resolution allows for payment of park dedication fees-in4ieu of dedicationand credit if the City is allowed to use the playfield and gym, Commissioner Oja asked if on -street parking is allowed along HarborLane. Senior Planner Keho replied affirmatively, but that the proposal has more than adequate parking available on-site. Commissioner Ola asked about the possibility of the City using the proposed sports field and gymnasium. Senior Planner Keho rep;ied that it would be possible, but the applicant would need to work with the Park and Recreation Department. Chairmanintroduced Ken Meyer, representing the petitioner. Mr, Meyer stated his concern with staffs recommendation that the building facades shown on sheet A3 be revised to include the use of burnished block on all exterior facades including the gymnasium, The neighboring buildings consist of Park Place Apartments which is brick on the bottom and wood of top; Family Hope Services which is stucco; and the telephone office building which is burnished block, He commented that the precast was chosen because of energy efficiency and low maintenance. Mr. Meyer added that the BlaineHigh School and Hennepin Technical College are precast buildings, Chairman Stulberg introduced Wayne Jeske, the petitioner. Mr. Jeske commented that he had been working with the City to improve the top band of the gymnasium to soften the look of precast. There will be ample landscaping and 0 Planning Commission Minutes December 13, 1995 Page #229 foundation plantings. Iie commented they would prefer to use precast as is it energy efficient and low maintenance. A precast building takes on a three dimensional look and does not need to take on an industrial look. If required to use decorative block for the majority of the exterior material, it would be less energy efficient and more costly. They would have to fury outthe inside surfance and use insulation with gypsum wall. Mr. Jeske stated that approximately 74% of the trees on site would be removed. The trees to be removed consist of box elders, cottonwoods and willows. Mr. Jeske presented a letter from Family Hope Services stating their approval of the proposed High School. Commissioner Oja questioned why the building is being built to hold 290 students, when the City is limiting the enrollment to 150 students. Mr. Jeske replied that there will be 10 classrooms, ideally with 24 students per class. They will have the room if needed for additional students, Commissioner Oja asked where the burnished block would be on the current proposal, and for examples of what the petitioner could do to fulfill staffs recommendation, for a more aesthetically pleasing building. Mr. Jeske replied that there would be burnished block along the front entryway. He added that they could add a design around the top band and add wood soffits. Commissioner qjaasked if the petitioner would consider adding color detail to the precast. W. Jeske responded that they would not recommend a color, as natural color would blend better into the surrounding neighbahood. Commissioner Oja questioned if the parking is adequate. Mr, Jeske explained that most students are dropped off by parents or carpool. There are only about 50 students that drive, so the parking lot is more than adequate, They hope to share parking with Family Hope Services for any night-time events. W. Jeskt commented that would not recommend any on -street parking for safety reasons. They also hope to work with the Plymouth Parks and Recreations Department to share their sports filed and gymnasium. Commissioner Oja asked if there would be my bleachers or lights on the playfields, Mr. Jeske confirmed that there would be no lights or bleachers. 0 Planning Commission Minutes December 13, 1995 Page #230 Chairman Stulberg introduced Dennis Simpson, representing the petitioner. Mr. Simpson stated that they have talked with Family Hope Services about shared parking and also the neighbor to the south may be a potential parking source. Chairman Stulberg asked how many staff would be on-site at one time. Mr. Simpson stated that there would be 10 staff people on site, Commissioner Oja commented that the proposed landscaping looks good, but it should be continued along the 34th Avenue and Harbor Lane sides to soften the look of the precast- building, Commissioner Ribbe stated that the resolution states staffs' recommendation of burnished brick instead of block, Senior Planner Keho confirmed that the brick was;a typographical error, rather it should state burnished block. Mr. Jeske stated that awhole building of burnished block is too much, and should only be used as an accent. Commissioner Preus asked what the difference is between what the petitioner is proposing and "what staff is recommending. Mr. Jeske replied that if precast is not used, there would be the need to ferr out the walls and use sheetrock, which is not energy efficient and is high maintenance. Chairman Stulberg commented that staff is recommending burnished block because of the surrounding aesthetics, He asked if there are other treatments for precast. Mr. Jeske replied affirmatively. Chairman Stulberg opened and closed the public hearing as there was no one present to speak on the issue., MOTION by Commissioner Slack, seconded by Commissioner Preus recommendingapprovaloftherequestbyWayneJeskeAssociatesforaLotConsolidationforWest Lutheran High School located at the southeast corner of Harbor Lane and 34th Avenue North. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. Planning Commission Minutes December 13, 1995 Page #231 Motion by Commissioner Black, seconded by Commissioner. Preus recommending approval of the request by Wayne Jeske Associates for a Conditional Use Permit, Site Plan and Variance for West Lutheran I-Egh School for property located at the southeast corner of Harbor Lane and 34th Avenue North. MOTION by Commissioner Preus, seconded by Commissioner Ribbe to amend Condition 4 of the approving resolution to state "Prior to issuance of building permits, architectural detailing shall be added along the roofline of the gymnasium". Roll Call Vote on MOTION to Amend. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried on a 6-1 Vote, Chairman Stulberg voted nay;) MOTION by Commissioner Oja, seconded by Commissioner Spigner to amend Condition. 6 adding the requirement of foundation plantings along the west and north side of the building. Commissioner Stimson commented that she would vote against the motion as it would be an added expense for the petitioner and they plan to expand in the near future. Roll Call Vote on MOTION to Amend. 2 Ayes. MOTION failed on a 2-5 Vote, Commissioners Stimson, Black, Preus, Ribbe and Chairman Stulberg voted nay.) Roll Call Vote on Main Motion as amended. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously, B. DAVANNPS, INC. (95119) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Davanni's Inc, for a Lot Division, Variance, Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan for construction of a restaurant located north of Highway 55 and south of Harbor Lane, about 700 feet west ofFernbrook Lane, Planner Shawn Drill gave an overview of the December 1, 1995 staff report. Chairman Stulberg introduced Roger Schelper, representing the petitioner, Mr, Schelper presented pictures of the most recent Davanni's store that was built on Vernon Avenue and Highway 100. Mr, Schelper concurred with conditions listed in the staff report: Chairman Stulberg opened the public hearing, Chairman Stulberg introduced AI Winter of 14705 31 st Avenue North. a Planning Commission Minutes December 13, 1995 Page #232 Mr. Winter stated his concern with the utilities and suggested that NSP, US West and the Cable company be involved in the planning process. He commented that the cables are not underground and that the utility poles are sagging. He also encouraged a requriementforadditionaltreesinthearea. He stated he thought the proposal would fit into the surrounding neighborhood. Chairman Stulberg closed the public hearing. City Engineer Faulkner stated that the City cannot require the utility company to burytheirlines, but that the request to notify the utilities of the plan could be carried forward. MOTION by Commissioner Stinson, seconded by Commissioner Black recommendingapprovaloftherequestbyDavanni's; Inc, for a Lot Division and Variance for propertylocatednorthofHighway55andsouthofHarborLane, about 700 feet west ofFernbrook Lane. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried on a 6-1 Vote. (Commissioner Oja voted nay.) MOTION by Commissioner Stimson, seconded by Commissioner Spigner recommendingapprovaloftherequestbyDavannis, Inc, for a Site Plan and Conditional Use Permit forpropertylocatednorthofHighway55andsouthofHarborLane, about 700 feet )vest of Fembrook Lane. Commissioner Stimson commented that the proposal is a nice project and a good fit for the area. Roll Call Vote; 7 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. C. THOMAS AeBARBEAU (95124) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Thomas A. Barbeau for a Conditional UsePermitAmendmentandSitePlan. Amendment for construction of a building addition at Walser Chevrolet located at 9625 56th Avenue North, Planner Drill gave an overview of the December 4, 1995 staff report. Commissioner Black commented that there is potential for a regional NM pond and suggested it be looked at in the future, Chairman 5tulberg introduced Tom Barbeau, representing the petitioner,. Mr, Barbeau stated that he concurs with the staff report, a I Planning Commission Minutes December 13, 1995 Page 11233 i Chairman Stulberg asked if additional signage would be needed, or if the customers would still enter at sameplace. i Mr. Barbeau stated 'the same entrance would be used, but they may need additional signage to direct to the service addition. Chairman Stulberg introduced Pat Ringold, co-owner ofWalser Chevrolet. Mr. Ringold reiterated that the same entrance would be used for the additional services area. Chairman Stulberg opened and closed the public hearing as no one was present t r speak on this issue. MOTION by Commissioner Preus, seconded by Commissioner Black to recommend approval of the request by Thomas A• Barbeau for a Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan Amendment for construction of a building addition at Walser Chevrolet located at 9825- 56th Avenue North. Based on Commissioner Black's previous comment, Commissioner Oja asked if staff could require aNURP'pond at this time. Director Hurlburt replied that staff can ask, but cannot require a NURP pond. When the Water Quality Pian is tinished it would there be required, but there is no plan yet. City Engineer Faulkner commented that staff is not concerned with flooding as there are adequate ponding areas. Director Hurlburt stated that the runoff is taken care of by the ponding areas, but the quality of the water is still an issue, Roll Call Vote, 7 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. Chairman Stulberg called a recess at 8:24 pan, and reconvened the meeting at 8:37 p.m, D. CITY OF PLYMOUTH (95125) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by the City of Plymouth for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the Land Use Guide Plan Element for Plymouth City Center located east of Vicksburg Lade between County Road 9 and Highway 55, Director Hurlburt gave an overview of the December 7, 1995 staff reports 0 Planning Commission Minutes December 13, 1995 . Page#234 Michael Schroeder of Hoisington Koegler Group, Inc, ,gave an overview of the Concept Plan and Design Guidelines for City Center. Chairman Stulberg opened the public hearing. Chairman Stulberg introduced John Day of 4625 Drew Avenue North, Robbinsdale. Mr. Day commented that the proposed concept plan and design guidelines adversely impact the two lots that he owns. The proposal would change his property to Office -Tech classification and he would not get the land valde as he could under the present retail classification. He asked if the classification change was approved, would there be flexibility to allow retail. Chairman Stulberg introduced Ken Streeter of 13100 35th Avenue North. Mr. Streeter stated that he has not found one landowner in downtown Plymouth that likes the proposed Concept Plan and Design Guidelines. He stated that the Concept Pan should help the landowner develop the property owned, not hinder them, He stated that the City needs to look at what is good for Plymouth. 1 Mr. Streeter stated that he has submitted a proposal to the City and the proposed Concept ! Plan would cause denial of the proposal. According to the proposed Concept Plan, it would change the classification of his property to entertainment retail Mr. Streeter asked what entertainment retail means. Mr. Streeter stated that he received a commitment from the City Council that nothing would deter him from selling; his property. He added with the proposed roadway changes his property would be negatively impacted. Mr. Streeter requested that the Concept Plan be denied or his property be encluded from the plan, Chairman Stulberg introduced Robert Guth of2925 Holly Lane North. Mr. Guth stated that no one has mentioned his property, He stated that if the Concept Plan is adopted, it could rezone him out of business, Mr. Guth asked if something happened with his building, could it be rebuilt with the current uses? W. Guth wanted to know the procedure on adopting the guidelines, Chairman Stulberg introduced James Guddal of 3085 Harbor Lane North, Mr. Guddal stated that the landowners do not all have deep packets. Mr. Guddal commented that this is the third revision of the Concept Plan for the downtown area, He was concerned that the ordinance that will affect the downtown area is not yet available 0 Planning Commission Mnutes December 13,1995 Page #235 for review. He added that the Concept Plan lacks the market research that should be mandatory. He requested that the hearing be continued for 30 days, as the landowners have not yet had a chance to do their own market research. Chairman Stulberg introduced Brad Us of Carlson Real Estate, 45 S. 7th Street, 2222 Plaza III, Minneapolis. Mr. Lis stated that he would prefer the area directly south of the Cub Foods property to be retail/service type businesses that would compliment the Cub Food Store. The proposed street would make this difficult. Mr. Lis asked how the shared NURP ponding requirements would be handled. Chairman Stulberg stated that he could not guarantee that the Commissioners would agree to continue the hearing for 30 days. Chairman Stulberg introduced Bill Cavanaugh of 13020 37th Avenue North. W. Cavanaugh stated that he donated land for the library which was not used for the library site and now is owned by the City. He commented that parcel should revert back to him. Mr. Cavanaugh stated he likes the idea of atheater for the downtown area., In response to the questions posed, Director Hurlburt stated that the Concept Plan could be amended frcm Office -Tech to Retail It will be easier to understand Office -tech when the language for the Zoning Ordinance is complete. It will list what uses would fit under the Office -Tech classification, Chairman Stulberg stated that the proposal Mr. Streeter referred to has not yet been reviewed by the Planning Commission, so he could not comment on the issue. Director Hurlburt stated that staff has received W. Streeter's proposal and it has not gone to Planning Commission yet, per advice of the City Attorney, Chairman Stulberg stated that he could not comment on any commitment that the City Council may or may not have made to Mr, Streeter, He added that if there are condemnation issues that result from the proposed Concept Plan, it would be addressed by the City Council, Director Hurlburt stated that a condemnation would take place only if the Concept Plan takes away all viable uses of the land, which would not be the case with the proposal. She added that when the zoning ordinance language is complete, landowners should have more comfort that viable uses are not being eliminated r a Planning Commission Minutes December 13,1995 Page #236 Mr. Schroeder stated that Mr. Guth's property and other buildings are not reflected in the Concept Plan. He added that the uses are viable uses for the plan, but the.building is not. Director Hurlburt stated that if for any reason the City changes the zoning, that would not change the current uses of Mr. Guth's property. The use could continue even if the ownership of the liquor store changes. Commissioner Preus stated that the Concept Plan looks good, but he could understand how the landowners are unsure since they don't know how it would affect their property. He asked if it would be possible to open the public hearing on the zoning ordinance so the owners have time to review it and become more comfortable. Director Huriburt explained that the first Council action is to only authorize the plan to go to the Metropolitan Council and changes could be made up to the time of adoption. When the City Council adopts the plan, they can also adopt the zoning ordinance to implement, the plan Commissioner Preus asked if a sports facility were to be added would it have to go back to the Metropolitan Council for review. Director Hurlburt replied that a sportsfacility is currently shown on the plan, but that minor changes could be made without the Concept Plan having to ,go back to the Metropolitan Council for review. The earliest time that the City Council could adopt the Concept Plan would be in February and the zoning language will be well under discussion or ready to adopt. Chairman Stulberg stated that the zoning changes over the hist three years occurred to help development of the property. He voiced his concern that more market research should be done before all steps are completed City Engineer Faulkner stated that community NURP ponds may be assessed by contributing areas, but that has yet to be decided. Commissioner Stimson was concerned that the intersection proposed at 35th Avenue would cause similar problems to the frontage road along County Road 9 west of Highway 169. Mr. Schroeder replied that the intersections would have a minimum 550 foot separation. Director Hurlburt stated that this intersection would not be comparable to the. Nathan Lane and County Road 9 intersection. a Planning Commissumminutes December 13, 1995 Page #237 Director Hurlbutt stated that the City completed condemnation of Mr. CaVanaugks former property and it does not revel to him. The City now owns the parcel. Mr. Guddal stated that Office -Tech classification should be used in an industrial area and is not appropriate in downtown Plymouth. MOTION by Chairman Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Black to continue thehearingontheComprehensivePlanAmendmenttotheLandUseGuidePlanElementfor Plymouth City Center to January 10, 1995. Vote. 7 Ayes, MOTION cameo unanimously. Chairman Stulberg noted that any written comments pertaining to the Comprehensive PlanAmendmenttotheLandUseGuidePlanElementshouldbesubmittedtostaffbyJanuary 3, 1996. MOTION by Commissioner Preus, seconded by Commissioner Black to adjourn. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 9:43 p.m: a