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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-22-1994CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JUNE 22, 1994 The regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Acting Chairman Bali Stimson, MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Barb Stimson, Ed Albin, Jack Hill, Virginia Black, Linda Oja and Allen Kibbe. MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Mike Stulberg STAFF PRESENT; Director Anne Hurlburt, City Engineer Dan Faulkner, Planning Supervisor Barbara Senness, Associate Planner John KPho, and Planning Secretary Jackie Watson MOTION by Commissioner Black, seconded by Commissioner Hill to approve they, agenda. Vote. 6 Ayes: Motion carried; MINUTES: MOTION by Commissioner Stimson, seconded by Commissioner Hill to approve the May 25,1994 Planning Commission minutes, with a change on page 97, paragraph 8, changing Stimson to'Senness Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion carried. MOTION by Commissioner Hill, seconded by Commissioner Black to approve the June S, 1994 Planning Commission minutes. Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion carried. ORM N THOMPSON'HOMES(94046) Acting Chairman Stimson introduced the request by Orrin Thompson Homes for a PUD Preliminary Plan Amendment, Conditional Use Permit and Variance for propertylocatedeastofDunkirkLaneat40thAvenueNorth. Associate Planner Keho reviewed the June 15, 1994 staff report. Commissioner Albin, asked where the affected lots would be relocated. a Planning Commission Minutes June 22, 1993 Page 112 Associate Planner Keho explained the plan and said that some lots were eliminated from the plan. Commissioner Hill asked how the 500 foot maximum length for a cul-de-sac was arrived at in the Zoning Ordinance. Associate Planner Keho responded that he was not sure, but it was probably for safetyandfirerelatedissues, and the length was arbitrary. Acting Chairman Stimson introduced Mr. Bill Pritchard, representing the petitioner. Mr. Pritchard explained that the Yuma Lane area is conceptual and would be part of the Sugar Hills development He said that the wetlands are more pronounced in this area and that they will remain as a wetland area. He said they are reducing the number of proposed lots and creating more wetland. In most cases the homes around the wetland will be set -back 20 feet except for Lot 14 which will be 5 feet: Due to an ash tree in middle of a lot, he was asking for a 10 -foot real; yard setback to preserve the tree. Acting Chairman Stimson opened and closed the Public Hearing as there was no one present to speak on the subject., MOTION by Commissioner Albro, seconded by Commission Oja to recommend approval of the request by Orrin Thompson Homes for a PUD Preliminary Plan Amendment, Conditional Use Permit and Variance for property located east of Dunkirk Lane at 90th Avenue North, subject to the conditions listed in the June 15, 1994 staff revolt. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. VOLP MANAGING (94052) Acting Chairman Stimson introduced the request by Volp Managing for a Site Plan Amendment, Conditional Use Permit and Variance for expansion of the outside storageareaat14100and1402523rdAvenue -North. Associate Planner Keho reviewed the June 15, 1994 staff report. Acting Chairman Stimson introduced Mr. Jim Volp, representing the petitioner. Mr. Volp explained the reason for the request. a i Planning Comrrussion Mantes June 22, 1994 Page 113 Acting Chairnan Stimson opened and closed the Public Hearing as there was no one present to speak on the request. MOTION by Acting Chairman Stimson, seconded by Commissioner Black to recommend approval of the request by Volp Managing for a Site Plan Amendment, Conditional Use Permit and Variance for expansion of the outside storage area at 14100 and 14025 23rd Avenue North. Roll Call Vote. b Ayes. Motion carried on a unanimous vote. CIMARRON EAST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION (94064) Acting Chairman Stimson introduced the request by the Cimarron East Homeowners Association for an Amended PUD Plan and Conditional Use Permit to allow homeowners to construct 3 -season porches onto their homes. Associate Planner Keho reviewed the June 14, 1994 staffreport. Acting Chairman Stimson introduced Mr. Earl Peterson representing the Homeowners Association. Mr. Peterson stated that he agreed with the staff report and conditions in the resolution. - Acting Chairman Stimson opened and closed the Public Hearing as thele was no one present to speak on the request. MOTION by Commissioner Black, seconded by Commissioner Ribbe to recommend approval of the request by the Cimarron Bast Homeowners Association for an Amended PUD Plan and Conditional Use Permit to allow homeowners to construct 3 -season porches onto their homes, subject to the conditions listed in the June 14, 1994 staff art, Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion carried on a unanimous vote. CITY OF PLYMOUTH. AMENDMENTS TO ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING SHORELAND MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS (94059) Director Hurlburt reviewed the lune 17, 1994 staff report. She introduced Mr. Blair Tremere, the City's Consultant, and Ms. Cell Strauss from the Department of Natural Resources as being available for questions. Ii Planning Commission Monies June 22,1994 Page 114 Mr. Tremere stated the changes are responsive to State Law. He said that tables will be included in the now ordinance to simplify the information for users, and the map is now officially referenced in the ordinance. He explained the two requests for flexibility regarding allowing the maximum height to remain at 35 feet versus the DNR requirement of 25 feet. He said that any provisions to exceed this height would require a Conditional Use Permit, He said the other request for flexibility was in regard to Planned Unit Developments in that some of the State's PUD requirements conflicted with the City's and the City's requirements are more stringent than theState'S. Commissioner Albro said that there seemed to be a word missing at the top of Page 17. He said he did not see any buffer zone requirements. Mr. Tremere responded that the setback requirements for the setback of structures has the buffer built in, and in the shorehmd structures are meant to be setback further than normal zoning. Ms. Strauss explained the shore impact zone. She said it half the structure setback; where if the structure setback is 50 feet then the shore impact zone would be half or 25 feet. She said that no removal of vegetation is allowed in the shore impact zone and it should be left in a more natural state. Commissioner Albre said he thought No. 9.a.(1), did not prohibit much in the shore and bluff impact zones, Ms. Strauss stated that there are other regulations in the Zoning Ordinance that restrict structures in this arra. Mr. Tremere stated that the shoreland regulations prohi5its clearcutting "except: where plans are approved by the City". He said that persons living in cther parts of the City do not need permission to clearcut on their own land. Ms. Strauss stated that a possible reason the City would approve clearing would be to allow a view of a lake: Commissioner Black asked why page 8 did not include a definition of bluff and shoreland impact zone. Mr. Tremere responded that those definitions are in the current zoning ordinance. Comir9ssionerBlack asked why on page 9 f,(1) the words ponds and flowages were struck. Mr. Tremere 'responded that those words were struck and then added in.No. 2, a Planning: Commission Minutes June 22, 1994 Page 115 Commissioner Albro asked if public waters would be included in the definition of wetlands. Mr. Tmmere explained that there are public protected water; and wetlands and you could also have shorehmd which are not wetlands. Director Hurlburt asked if all public waters were also wetlands. Ms. Strauss responded that they are wetlands in the fact that they are protected by the DNR. Director Hurlburt asked if tributary streams were considered wetlands. Ms. Strauss responded that all protected waters are wetlands. Commissioner Albro stated that this does not prevent the City from adding buffer zones and non -conforming uses to the ordinance. Mr. Tremere stated that page 18 defines non -conforming uses. He said that most undeveloped land left is in the northwest portion of the City and the remainder is already developed so that there will be no hardship on the existing developments. Commissioner Albro asked if a parcel that was a non conforming use would be allowed to increase size of an existing home. Mr. Tremere responded that the language regarding this is already in the ordinance. Director Hurlburt stated that if house homed down ora non -conforming parcel the owners would have to apply for a Variance. Commissioner Albro asked if the wetland ordinance were to address non -conforming structures would the City be able to be less restrictive than the Shoreland Ordinance. Director Hurlburt responded that the City must adhere to the Shorekmd regulations. Acting Chairman Stimson opened the Public Hearing, Acting Chairman Stimson introduced Mr. Marc Anderson of 420 Merrimac lane. Mr. Anderson stated that he did not have any questions. Acting Chairman Stimson closed the Public Hearing. a Planning Commission Minutes lune 22, 1994 Page 116 MOTION by Commissioner Albin, seconded by Commissioner Black to recommend approval the Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance regarding Shoreland Management Regulations. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion carried on a unanimous vote. BRIEFING ON WETLAND INVENTORY AND ORDINANCE WORK Planning Supervisor Senness introduced John Shardlow of Dahlgren, Shardlow, and Uban, Inc. Mr. John shardlow introduced Ms. Lynn Rabuse who will be doing the analysis work. and Mr. Ron Peterson of Peterson Environmental Consulting, Inc. who will be doing the mapping and inventory work. Mr. Shardlow reviewed the plan for developing the wetland ordinance. He said their role will be that of facilitators to provide information and implications and that the decisions will be made by the City Council. Ms. Rabuse described the work program as three phases which include research, refinement and finalizing the ordinance. She said they will use a data base and plan to have several workshops with the public and the Planning Commission. Commissioner Albro stated that he thought stage 105 regarag a public meeting might be premature and that buffer zones should be defined before that meeting. Ms. Rabuse stated that different scenarios will be looked at as options as well as what other communities are doing. This public meeting will help answer questions raised at earlier meetings. Commissioner Albro asked how the different scenarios would be expressed. He asked f lost developable lots would be. discussed. He said this should be done at the meeting. Ms. Rabuse stated that they will display graphic examples of different scenarios. The subject of lost lots will be discussed at a later meeting. Commissioner Ribbe asked what the time line would be for Phase 1. Ms. Rabuse responded that Phase I would be ongoing throughout the project. She stated that information will be forwarded to staff as it is completed. Commissioner Ribbe asked when fust public meeting would be held. 0 Planning Commission Minutes June 22, 1993 Page 117 Ms. Rabuse stated that they will be meeting with staff tomorrow to discuss dates for meetings. Commissioner Black stated she was concerned about expressing changes in zoning as losses and said this should be expressed in a way which incorporates the values of preserving wetlands. Mr. Peterson explained wetland mapping and inventory. He said that an inventory wuuld be done first, then field reviewing and then input on ordinance as to being consistent with regulations. He said they will field review all wetlands in the undeveloped portion of the City, plus 50 wetlands in the developed portion of the City. He said that approximately 212 wetlands will get this intensive treatment. Commissioner Ribbe asked if this review would star: with existing photography. Mr. Peterson responded that this would be the start, part of the data can be developed in the office; and the information will be digitized onto the maps as it is developed. Commissioner Albro asked Mr. Peterson to explain function and values. Mr. Peterson stated that values were what they apply to wetlands as humans, also values are a function of a wetland for habitat and other, things. He said they would use four different categories. Commissioner Albro stated that his major concern is water quality and lakes should be considered as a part of the inventory for wetlands. Mr. Peterson said the lakes would be mapped. He said they will try to find all wetlands regardless of time, but will focus on the northwest quadrant. CommissionerHill asked if the function or value assigned would be subjective or would it be digitized. . Mr. Peterson stated they will be as objective as possible Commissioner Black asked for a discussion regarding the Wisconsin methodology and stated she wanted copies of the assessment sheets. She asked the consultants to discuss their background as consultants. Each consultant discussed their credentials. Mr. Shardlow stated they will give the Planning Commission many options to consider. Planning Commission Meares Julie 22, 1994 Page 118 Director Hurlbmt discussed the process used to determine which consultants the Citywouldhire. Commissioner Albm stated that it took the City of Chanhassen 21/2 years to do their wetland study and asked if something would be lost in doing this project in such a short time since we have twice as many wetlands. Planning Supervisor Senness stated that Chanhassen also did a surface waterplan, and comprehensive plan along with the wetlands study which took a longer time. Director Hurlburt stated that eventually there; will still be a'surface water plan to dooncethewetlandstudyiscomplete. Commissioner Stimson stated that she liked the plan presented by the consultants. Planning Supervisor Senness stated that staff will communicate the schedule to theCommissionasitevolves. Director Hurlburt stated that this study will involve additional meetings on WednesdaysforthePlanningCommission. She said that staff would also involve the Water QualityBoardandtheCityCouncilinthemeetings. Commissioner Oja gave a report on her attendance at the Park and Recreation AdvisoryCommissionmeeting. She discussed the new City park called Heather Run, open space, available land the City would like to purchase for parks, and problems of totlots. Discussion ensued on tot lots/open space. MOTION by Commission Hill, seconded by Acting Chairman Stimson to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 9:oo p.m. a