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CITY' OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMLSSION MINUTES
JULY 29, 1993
MMMERS PRESENT: Chairman Mike Stolberg, Commissioners Barb Stimson,
Julie Witt, Mike Wigley, and Dennis 7..ylla.
MEMBERS ABSENT, Commissioners Scott Syverson and Ed Albin:
STAFF PRESENT: Acting Director Joe Ryan, City Engineer Dan Faulkner, a!
Associate Planner John Keho, and Planning Secretary r
Jackie Watson. y,
MINUTES:
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MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Witt to approve the
July )4, 1993 Planning Commission Minutes. N
Vote. 4 Eyes. Motion Carried.
QUANTUM DEVELOPMENT (93064)
Chairman StolMrg introduced the inquest by Quantum Development for a Conditional
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Use Permit for Wayzata Public School use of the gymnasium and equipment storage at f
the Beacon Heights School at 1232S.Staid Highway 55.
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Chairman Stolbe introduced Mr. Clint Carlson grePrg representing the petitioner. 1
Mr. Carlson introduced Dr. Jim Brandle of ISD 284.
Mr. Brandle stated that the school district has had an increased demand for school
sports facilities, especially for succer.
Chairman Stulberg opened the Public Hearing; 4
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr, Al Mjomd, of 12:00 -12th Avenue North.
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Mr. Mjorud stated that he was in favor of ibis zequest with a condition that the fire
hazard of a pile of tires being stored on the site be removed. He said there have beensomefiresonthesite.
Mr. Carlson stated that these tires have been a'nuisance since they occupied the
building. He said there had been mart, fires inside the building while it was
unoccupied. He said the tires had been used for playground equipment, and it is their
intent to dispose of the tires. He said it is difficult to get rid of these large tires, but
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that they would fence them in until they can find a way to dispose of them. He said
there are 1l big tires.
Chairman Stulberg closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by CommissionerZylla, seconded by Commissioner Wigiey to recgmmend
approval of the request by Quantum Development for a Conditional Use Permit for
Wayzata Public School use of the gymnasium and equipment storage at the Beacon
Heights School at 12325 State Highway 55, amending Condition 3 stating that the tires
be removed from the site before the Conditional Use Permit is issued.
MOTION to Amend by Chairman Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to
amend Condition 3 stating that the tires must be removed before the request goes to the
Council for approval.
Mr. Carlson requested that the removal of the tires be required prior to school district
occupancy of the site.
Roll Call Vote on Amend. 5 Ayes. Motion carried.
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion without the amending clause. S Ayes. Motion carried
on an uns aimous vote.
Commissioner Wigley commended the petitioner on the outstanding job they are doing
at this site. He said that their ability to work with the neighbors has resulted in no
opposition to this request.
MID ANIMCA'OIT UENMENT COMPANY (93066)
Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Mid America Entertainment Co. for an
Amended PUD Preliminary Plan, PUD Final Site Plan and Lot Division for a
Blockbuster Vid, Store at 4175 Viewed Lane.
Associate Planner Keho reviewed the July 21, 1993 staff report. He said he had not
found any requests in City fides for parcels below the 1;acre standard in Mixed Planned
Unit Developments.
Commissioner Zylla asked if Condition 10 be clarified as to rear yard setback.
Associate Planner Kelio stated that the 10 feet was a typo and will be corrected to read
13 feet as stated in the narrtitive'of the staff report.
Commissioner Witt asked if the land behind the Texaco Station could be developed..
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Associate Planner Keho replied that this was State Highway Department property and
cannot be developed.
Chairman Stulberg introduced W. Vince Driessen, representing 1lhe petitioner.
M. Driessen presented a.letter from Target acknowledging their awareness of the lost
parking spaces on their site which will result from this request.
Mr. Driessen introduced Mr.. Chuck Habiger, also representing the petitioner
Mr. Habinger stated that to bring this parcel up to 1 acre would only increase the
driveway surface around the building. He said Target does not want to sell any
additional land to the petitioner, plus there is an economic issue if more land were
needed to be purcbased. He said that there could be some design issues related to the
engineer's memo, but they would be worked out with the Cit r
Mr. Habiger introduced Mr. Peter Hilger, representing the petitioner.
Mr. Hilger described the exterior design of the store, which will be similar to the
Target store.
Commissioner Wigley asked fora discussion of drive access to the store.
Mr. Habinger described the drive pattern.
Commissioner Wigley stated that layout and access seemed awkward,
Mr. Habiger stated they worked with staff on the layout and access for the site. He
said the building will only be 20 feet high, and would generate possibly 15 cars per
hour.
Mr. Driessen stated that peak hours will generate more traffic. He said there will be
43 parking spaces on the site.
City Engineer Paulimer stated a traffic study was not done for this specific use. He
stated that the proposed access could create a problem for traffic in the Target parking
lot.
Commissioner Wigley stated that it seemed that an additional street was being created
within the parking lot,
W. Driessen stated staff did not feel a traffic study Was needed;
Commissioner Witt asked if stop lights would eventually be installed in the Rockford
Road Shopping Center.
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City Engineer Faulkner replied that this would be up to owners.
Mr. Iiabiger stated that the traffic does not warrant stop lights at this time.
Mr. Driessen stated they would be willing to install yield or stop signs if the traffic
warrants it.
Chairman Stolberg Opened and closed the Public Hearing as there was no one present to
speak on the issue.
Commissioner Wigley asked if the petitioner had considered blocking a parking aisle to
force trafticto Aisle 3, and the installation of some stop signs. He stated that shopping
for videos is a quick in and out process compared to other types of shopping.
Mr. Driessen replied that they had not considered using a parking aisle fora drive
aisle.
Chairman Stulberg stated that he did not sw a difference in a shopping experience
between shopping at Target or shopping for a rental videotape.
Commissioner Stimson stated that we should not require stop signs if they are not
needed.
Mr. Driessen stated that. they would let staff determine if stop signs were needed.
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Stimson, to
recommend approval of the inquest by Mid America Entertainment Co. for an
Amended PUD Preliminary Plan, PUD Final Site Plan and Lot Division for a
Blockbuster Video Store at 4175 Vinewood Lane, subject to all conditions fisted in the
July 21, 1993 staff report.
MOTION to Amend by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Zyfia to
amend Condition 11 to Wow the 0.866 acre size lot, as requested by the petitioner.
Roll Call Vote on Motion to Amend. 5 Ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION to Amend by Wigley to add a condition stating that subject to staff's review
Aisles 1 and 2 be blocked and stop signs be installed at the entrance and at the 3rd
aisle.
Motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioner Witt asked. how this site could be monitored to see if stop signs were -
needed.
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Chairman Stulberg stated that thought the two stores would correct the drive pattem on
the site if they receive complaints from their customers.
Commissioner Zylla stated that a stop sign be placed off the north aisle, and suggested
a right tum in lane only.
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Witt to table this
request until a design for better ingress was proposed.
Roll Call Vote. 2 ayes, Commissioners Zylla„Stimson and Chairman Stulberg voted
Nay. Motion failed.
Commissioner Zylla asked staff if a right tum only lane would be appropriate.
Both City Engineer Faulkner and Associate Planner Keho stated that this would create a
pretty tight tum.
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MOTION to Amend by CommissionerZylia, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to
recommend that staff do an analysis for a right tum in only lane to see if it would work
geometrically; and if this is possible, amend the Site Plan for the entrance only, with
the agreement by the developer and staff.
Roll Call Vote on Motion to Amend. 5 Ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Witt to recommend
that the petitioner and staff analyze an exit to the north and look at installing a stop sign
and blocking off an aisle for workability.
Roll Call Vote. 2 Ayes, Commissioners Zylla, and Stimson and Chairman Stulbetg
voted Nay. Motion failed.
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion as twice amended. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Witt voted'
Nay. Motion carried on a 4-1 vote. -
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DALHSTROM'COMPANIES (93069)
Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Dahlstrom Companies for a Thoroughfare
Guide Plan Amendmentto remove the minor collector designation from 43rd Avenue
North to Berkshire Lane located northeast of the intersection of County Road 9 and
Fembrook Lane.
Associate Planner Keho reviewed the July 20, 1993 staff report.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Terry Dahlstrom, the petitioner.
141x. Dahlstrom introduced Mr. Steve Johnston, their Engineer from Loucks and
Associates.
Mr. Johnston discussed future development in this area that will hinge on this current
application as related to the steep slopes and the wetlands that would be impacted if the
street was connected as a minor thoroughfare. He also descritvd how a development
would be designed if the street were connected. The traffic study slated that only 5 %
of the traffic would be diverted if the connection were made.
Commissioner Zylla asked what the total acreage the future proposal would be.
Mr. Johnston replied that there are 27 acres for development.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Rod Krass, an Attorney representing the petitioner.
Mr. Kmss stated that if the minor collector street was built through the site there would
be some loss: in the property value of some lots, plus the increased costs related to
constructing the minor collector, which is a significant economic issue. He said that
the timing for approval of this item and the future development request is important to
the developer because there are several land owners involved in this development. He
commented on a lawsuit involving adjacent property owners.
Mr. Krass stated that the City's decision to move the intersection to 43rd Avenue North
and Fembrook Lane several years ago is what has impacted this future development
and the request for the removal of the minor collector.
Chairman Stulberg opened the public Bearings
Chairman Stulberg entered two letters of opposition into the record; one from Kevin
Begin and one from Randy Nord.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr, Ron Weber, of 4340 Harbor Lane.
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Mr. Weber gated he favors the removal of the minor collector because his home faces
the Ord Avenue North intersection.
Chairman Stulberg introduced W. Fred Steller, of 14505 -43rd Avenue North.
Mr.'Stelter, stated he -is the KingsviewHeights HOA President. He stated that the.
Homeowners major concern is the intersection of Fernbmok Lane and County Road 9.
He said they wanted to know what impact the impact would be on this intersection N
the minor collector were removed.
Chaim= Stulberg introduced Mr. Karl Keller, of Roseville.
Mr. Keller stated that he owns 12 acres in this furore -proposed development. He said a
PUD would not ivork on his site, and that this future plan of Dahlstrom's is thf, first
good plan for his land as combined with the other sites.
Chairman Stulboag introduced Mry Grant Heim.
Mr. Heino stated he lives in Kingsview Heights and is concerned with making a left
hand tum onto ktngsview lane. He asked Mr. "Dahlstrom to visit with the
homeowners and'expLvn his plan. He asked if the 1988 traffic study was done to
incorporate the Pembrook Townhomes development.
City Engineer Faulkner stated that when a tradfie study is done it incorporates all future
development in tie area.
Mr. Heino asked if Fembrook Lane would be the only egress from this development.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Kevin Begin, of 4300 Pembmok Lane.
Mr. Begin stated he was in favor of the retention of the minor collector. He stated that
he is doing an audition his site because there had been statements made that part of his ;
land is contaminated. He said the elimination of the minor collector would restrict
some development in the arra, and easy access for police and tire. He presented a
petition of approximately. 100 homeownt r asking that this request be denied, that the
minor collector was a necessity. He;saiid that the 1988 traffic atudy was outdates).
He discussed the lawsuit currently in the courts and the property which would be
landlocked without the minor collector. He said he would be. willing to grant an
easement to the landlocked property. He asked if the City would be eligible for State
funds for the County Road 9 intersection. He asked if this proposal would qualify as a
hardship.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. 1lewey Peterson, of 11085 -56th Avenue North.
ikr. Peterson stated be is in favor of the Dahlstrom inquest,
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Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Lonny Thimjon, of 4275 Ithaca Iane.
Mr. Thirajon stated he had signed the Begin petition, but now after listening to the
discussion, he wants his name removed. He said he is in favor of the Dahlstrom
proposal and feels the DaWstrom plan will preserve the property values in the area and
will compliment the Yingsview Heights Addition.
Chairman Stulberg closed the Public Hearing.
Associate Planner Keho responded to questions raised during the Public Hearing stating
thatthe only egress from the site would be onto Fembrook Lane, and that there could
be two egress points. He said that emergency vehicle maneuvering on We site would
be studied at the Preliminary Plat stage.
City Engineer Faulkner stated no State funds are used for maintenance of roads; and no
State funds will be lost if this minor collector is eliminated. He said that staff will have
to do some redesignation of roads, but he cannot relate any hardship to this request.
Commissioner Wigley asked if there were any plans to improve the Fembrook Lane
and County Road 9 intersection.
City Engineer'Faulkner stated that this intersection scheduled on the 1995 CIP for
County, but is currently under County discussion and may be done earlier than 1995.
He said they are aware of the problems and they will be taken care of in the future.
Chairman Stulberg recognized Mr. Heino'a second time.
Mr. Hemo asked where a second exit onto Fembrook Lane would be.
Associate Planner Keho stated that a second "-.t could be south of the Northwestern
Bell site, but it would only be about 260 feet from County Road 9.
Commissioner Wigley asked staff to review the approval for the Fembrook
Townhomes to see what type of exterior finish was approved. He said he thought an
exterior of wood and brick was the approved finish.
Associate Planner Keho stated that the City still holds a performance bond for the
development and he will check it out.
Commissioner Wigley asked if there could be a street connection from Berkshire Lane
to the future proposed cut de sac.
Mr. Johnston responded that he does not: want aBerkshire Lane connection, that he
prefers to beep the industrial traffic from the east away from the proposed residential
development.
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Commissioner Zylla asked if this request is approved, should it be conditioned on the
future proposal for the development of this site.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to
approval of the request by Dahlstrom Company Dahlstrom Companies for a
Thoroughfare Guide Plan Amendment to remove the minor collector designation from
43rd Avenue North to Berkshire lane locatednortheast of the intersection of County
Road 9 and Fembrook Lane; and, to tie the approval of this request not only to the
approval by the Metropolitan Council, but also to condition the approval on the
approval and filing of the Final Plat with Hennepin County by Dahlstrom Companies {; s
for this site. h
MOTION to Amend by Commissioner1Vigley, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to
strike the condition stating that unless the Final Plat is approved and filed with
Hennepin County, the approval of the deletion of the minor collector becomes null and y
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void.
Roll Call Vote on Motion to Amend. 3 Ayes, Commissioner Zylla and Chairman
Stulberg voted Nay. Motion carried on a 3-2 vote.
Commissioner Wigley stated that his main concern is that the developer give the City a
nice development and that improvements are done, to the County Road 9 and Fembrook
lane intersection.
Roll Call Vote on the Main Motion as once amender.. 3, Ayes, Commissioner Witt and
Chairman Stulberg voted Nay.
Chairman Stulberg and Commissioner Witt stated that thea reason for voting nay was
not that they opposed the request but that they wanted th. approval tied to the Final
Plat approval and filing of the Final Plat with Hennepin County.
Chairman Stulberg called a recess at 9:20 p.m., the meeting reconvened at 9:2.1 P.M.
PARKVIEW RIDGE TOWNHOME ASSOCIATION (93070)
Chaimfan Stulberg introduced the request the Parkview Ridge Townbome Association
fora RPUD Preliminary Plan Amendment and Conditional Use Permit for Parkview
Ridge 2nd Addition located' northwest of 38th Avenue North at Minnesota lane.
Associate Planner Keho reviewed the July 16, 1993 staff report. '
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Doug Hallen, of 3815 Minnesota Iane, representing
the Parkview Ridge Townhome homeowners.
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Air. Wien stated that the Parkview Ridge TownhomeAssociation homeowners are not
interested in the basketball court or the insurance costs involved to cover this type of
Wen space.
Chairman Stulberg opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Jeff Gray, of 1482539th Avenue North.
Mr. Grey stated that he was in favor of the basketball court being retained. r
Mr. Hallen stated that Mr. Gray does not live in the Parkview Ridge Townhome
development.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Mark Basco, of 14835 -39th Avenue North.
Mr. Basco stated that he was in favor of the basketball court being retained although he
does not live in the Parkview Ridge Townhome development. He said that the City
needs to have more basketball courts for residents to use.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Ms. Alice Shea, of 3801 Minnesota Lane.
Ms. Shea stated that the homeowners in Parkvie'A dge Townhome development are
not in favor of maintaining and insuring a basketball court for non-residents to use.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Jon Gowan, of 3933 Niagara Lane.
Mr. Gown stated he is a resident of t:v Parkview Ridge Townhome development. He
stated that there are trails to the City park in this area and that the City should install a -
basketball court in the park for residents of adjoining properties.
Chairman Stulberg closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to
recommend approval of the request by the Parkview Ridge Townhome Association for
a RPUD Preliminary Plan Amendment and Conditional Use Permit for Parkview Ridge
2nd Addition, located northwest of 38th Avenue North at Minnesota Lane, subject to
all conditions listed in the July 16,1993staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote.
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SKYLINE DESIGN, INC. (93071)
Chairman Stulberg introduced the requestby Skyline Design, Inc. for an Amended
Planned Unit Development and Conditional Use Permit fora 3 -season porch in
Cimarron Ponds at 1040 Yuma lane.
Chairman Stulberg waived the review of the July 16, 1993 staff report.
Cbairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Bill Splett, representing the petitioner.
Chairman Stulberg opened and closed the Public Hearing as there was no one present to
speak on the issue.
MOTION by Commissioner Stimson, seconded by Commissioa r Wigley to
recommend approval of the request by Skyline Design, Inc. foram Amended Planned
Unit Development and Conditional Use Permit for a 3 -season porch in Cimarron Ponds
at 1040 Yuma lane, subject to all conditions listed in the July 16,A993 staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote.
SINCLAIR, MARKETING OF MINNESOTA (93073)
Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by SinclairMmketing of Minnesota for a
Conditional Use Permit for a gasoline service station and propane gas dispensing at,
9605 -36th Avenue North.
Chairman Stulberg waived the review of the July 16, 1993 staff report
Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. John Labatt, representing the petitioner.
Chairman Stulberg opened and closed the Public hearing as there was no one present to
speak on the issue.
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to
recommend approval of the inquest by Sinclair Marketing of Minnesota fora
Conditional Use Permit fora gasoline service station and propane gas dispensing at
9605 -36th Avenue North, subject to all conditions listed in the July 16, 1993 staff
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Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
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