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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-09-1993CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES TONE 9, 1993 MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Mike Stulberg, Commissioners Pd Albro, Scott Syverson, Barb Stimson, Julie Witt, Mike Wigley, and Dennis Zylla. MEMBERS ABSENT. None. STAFF PRESENT: Acting Director Joe Ryan, City Engineer Dan Faulkner, Associate Planner John Keho, and Planning Secretary Jackie Watson. MINUTES: MOTION by Commissioner Zy)la, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to approve theMay19, 1993 Planning Commission Minutes. Vote. 7,Ayes. Motion carried. CONSMW AGENDA: METROPOLITAN LIFE (91.071) MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner Stimson to recommend approval of the request by Metropolitan Life for an Amendment to the Landscaping Plan to reduce the number of plantings adjacent to a proposed parking lot at 15700 Rockford Road, subject to all conditions listed in the May 27, 1993 staff report. Vote. 7 Ayes. Motion carried. RODD AND JEAN JOHNSON (93040) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Rodd and Jean Johnson for an Amended PUD Plan and Conditional Use Permit for a;3rd garage stall at 14835 -41st Avenue North. Chairman Stulberg waived the review of the May 17, 1993 staff report. Chairman Stulberg opened and closed the Public Hearing as there Was no one present tospeakontheissue. D Planning Commission Minutes June 9, 1993 Page 90 MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Zylla, to recommend approval of the request by Rodd and Jean Johnson for an Amended PUD Plan and Conditional Use Permit for a 3rd garage stall at 14835 -41st Avenue North, subject to all conditions listed in the May 17, 1993 staff raport. Roll Can Vote. 7 Ayes. Motion carried on a unanimous vote. JAMES LEONHARDT (93041) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by James Leonhardt for a Conditional Use Permit for a Home Occupation to operate a printing equipment and machinery repaircompany, at 9620 -28th Avenue North. Associate Planner John Keho reviewed the May 17, 1993 staff report. Commissioner Zylla asked what type of vehicle made deliveries to the home. Associate Planner Keho stated that he thought it was a UPS vehicle. The petitioner, W. sLeonhardt was not present. Chairman Stulberg opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Stulberg introduced Ms. Donna Leonhardt, of 9640 28th Avenue North Ms. Leonhardt stated that she lived adiacent to the site and said that there is dangerous equipment in the garage. She said she is concerned about the danger to the children in the area from the delivery trucks and the possibility of children going into the garage. She said that Mr. Leonhardt uses the garage for this business and parks his vehicles in the driveway. Commissioner Wigley asked Ms, Lconhardt if she Was related to the petitioner. Ms. Leonbardt stated that she was married to the pefit oner 10 years ago. Chairman 8tulbere closed the Public Hearing, Wigley stated that this seemed to be an industrial business and should be'located awayfromtheresidentialma, MOTION by Chairman Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Albto to table this item toJune23, ,1993 Planning CommissionAgenda. M Planning Commission Minutes June 9, 1993 Page 91 Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. Motion to table carried on an unanimous vote. GOFF HOMES (93008) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Goff Homes for a RPUD Preliminary PhuVPlat and Conditional Use Permit for 60 single family attached units; and, Rezoning of the property from FRD to R4, located west of Xenium Lane. at 36th Avenue North. Associate Planner Keho reviewed the May 18, 1993 staff report. Commissioner Zylla asked that the petitioner discuss elevation of the proposal units. t Commissioner Albro stated that the City Council tabled this request previously because they did not have a majority to approve the 415 vote needed for the rezonLig part of the application. Commissioner Wigley asked if the public streets design were slightly narrower than usual. Associate Planner Keho responded that the narrower public street design was approved by the City Council at the Concept Plan stage to encourage the design of public streets rather than private drives in die development. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Pat Goff, the petitioner. Mr. Goff reviewed the previous plans for this development and the new changes in this request. He said that this request is for public streets, that the east side of the site has been beefed up with evergreen trees and a berm to buffer the development from the neighborhood across the street. Chairman Stulberg opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr, Carl Hedberg of 13420 -36th Avenue North. Mr. Hedberg stated that this plan has come a long way, He asked about the walkway along Xenium Lane and recommended that the landscaping be done all at onetime at the start of the project. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr, Leo Timmerman of 3630 Wedgewood Lane, Mr. Timmerman stated that Ids concern was in regard to the price of these homes, and the thought that lower priced hooses would be located near their neighborhood and 7 PlanningCo n nissionMinutes June 9, 1993 Page 92 affect theirpmperty, values. He said he felt these homes would not be benefit to Plymouth. He said this ai% would be an excellent place for a park, not low income housing. Chairman Stulberg closed the Public Hearing. Commissioner Wigley asked the petitioner to discuss the timing for the berm and landscaping portion of the plan. Mr. Goff stated that all grading and the street side of the berm would be completed during the fust phase, hopefully by this fall. He sair, the landscaping would be completed from the south portion up to 37th Avenue North. Commissioner Wigley asked Mr. Goff if lie wished to discuss the market value of the proposed homes. Mr. Goff described the amenities of the 1,495 square foot homes, and said the starting price would be $119,900. MOTION by Chairman Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Wigley, t recommend approval of the request by Goff Homes, Inc. for a RPUD Preliminary Plan/Plat and Conditional Use Permit for 60 single family attached units; and, Rezoning of the. property from FRD to R4, located west of Xenium Lane at 36th Avenue North, subject to all conditions listed in the May 18, 1993 staff report. 140TION to Amend by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Albro to add a condition stating that an be.nning and landscaping be competed during the fust phase of the project. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. Motion to Amend carried on an unanimous vote. ` Commissioner Albroasked if abond would be required from the developer to guarantee the landscaping, Associate Planner Keho stated that a bond is normally inquired. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes, Motion carried on an unanimous vote. Chairman Stulberg called a recess at 7:42 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 7:52 p.m, 6 a Planning Commission Minutes June 9, 1993 Page 93 CARLSON REAL ESTATE COMPANY, INC. (93019) Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Carlson Real Estate Company, Inc. for reconsideration of the Land Use Guide Plan Amendment from IP to CR -2; Rezoning from I-1 to B-2; General Development Plan Amendment; a Site Plan for a 124,996 square foot Wal-Mart Discount Store; Condiflonal Use Permit for outside storage and automotive repair; a Variance for signage; and a Preliminary Plat to create five lots; located at the southeast comer of Carlson Parkway and I-494. Associate Planner Keho reviewed the new materials received by the petit ones regarding a noise study and baffic study dimussed in the June 2, 1993 staff report. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Robert Hoffman, representing Carlson Real Estate Company, Inc. Mr. Hoffman discussed the advantages of this proposed development to the City of Plymouth. Mr. Rick Nan reviewed the new Noise Study. He stated that 3 decibels is the smallest noise level that is perceptible. He said that this proposed project will cause a 1 decibel change in the noise level during the P.M. peak hours. He said that in the off peak hours the decibel change in noise levels were within the State standards. He saidthat the testing was done at the east side of Cheshire Lane. He stated that the decibel level varied between 0 and 2 decibels during the week day period, and up to 3 decibels during the weekend. Commissioner Wigley asked Mr. Nan if the decibel change is considered a logarithmic change. Mr. Nan responded that 3 decibels would be related to noise resulting from a dotibling of the traffic. Mr. Dick Wolsfeld discussed the new traffic study. He said they analyzed weekday afternoons, weekday evenings and Saturdays, and compared these estimates to estimates of the approved land use. He stated that all the projected traffic levels we better than or equal to.the'traffic which would be generated front the currently approved land use. Commissioner Wigley asked if level A is the bestlevel. He said some of the levels were degrading such as on I-394 & Horn Drive which is now a B and would degrade to a C. He said he thought that Nu, Wolsfeld stated that traffic levels would be better. Mr. Wolsfeld responded that he meant that traffic levels would be better than or above the State standards, 4 Planning Commission Minutes June9,1993 Page 94 Mr. Hoffman discussed the noise study comparing no development with the proposed development. chairman Stulberg opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Stulberg introduced Ms, Sharon Carrington, of 415 Berkshire lane. Ms. Carrington stated that her home looks out over this site. She asked what type of traffic levels could be expected on Sundays. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Edwin Johnson, of 255 Berkshire lane. Mr. Johnson stated he looked at the Wal-Mart hours and traffic at the Brooklyn Park site, and discussed Ids thoughts on how many cars could be traveling to this proposed site. He also discussed hearing a burglar alarm go off in a car in the parking lot and said he felt there would be continuous noise that would affect Iris home. He said that this proposal would depreciate the value of the homes in the area, and that an industrial, use would be more compatible with the neighborhood. He discussed the affect of headlights from cars departing from the site during the evening hours which would disturb the people in the existing homes. Mr. Johnson stated that he felt this development proposes a serious threat to the homeowners in this area. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Jerry Leininger; of 13624 -5th Avenue North. Mr. Leudnger stated that Le felt the noise from the traffic generated from this proposal would be very disturbing to the homeowners in the area. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. Chris Mosentine, of 13735 Sunset Trail. Mr. Mosentine stated that there is a Target and P & M Store close by and that traffic levels would increase because of comparison shoppers comparing prices between the thrre businesses. He staled that because his property sits at such a high elevation he will have a full view of the parking lot. He said that Carlson Real Estate should have to stay with their original approved plan for this site. Chairman Stulberg introduced Mr. David Nygren, of 420 Berkshire Lane. Mr. Nygren stated that he did not see any improvement in the projected traffic noise levels in the newly presented traffic study. He said that traffic noise is the most offensive noise to humans. Chairman Stulbcrg closed the Public Hearing. C Planning Commission Minutes June 9, 1993 Page 95 Mr. Wolsfeld stated that Sunday afternoon traffic would be lower than Saturday aftemoon traffic, which is the heaviest traffic time.. He discussed the Levels Of Service in the Gaffic,study. Mr. Nau stated that Saturday and Sunday noise levels were comparable. He said that more traffic is generated at Wal-Mart Stores on Saturdays than on Sundays, and that is why Saturdays were used in the comparisons.. Chairman Stulberg asked if comparison shopping was weighed for the traffic study. Mr. Wolsfeld stated that when there is competition in the area there is generally less trip generation, and this is taken into account for a traffic study. Chairman Stulberg asked what could be done about headlight disruption from the site. Mr. Hoffman discussed the proposed landscaping for the site, fencing, and proposed landscaping on the rear lots of neighbors if they would want this screening. He said some of theproperty across from these neighbors is already zoned commercial retail. Commissioner Zylla stated that any industrial use developed on this site would have to meet the State standards, and that they are numerous industrial type businesses that could be developed on the site besides a food distribution warehouse, as was used in the comparison analysis for the traffic and noise studies. He said that most of the information discussed regarding noise and traffic was very technical. He said that cumulative impacts were not discussed. Commissioner Zylla stated that the thought of increasedtrafficbecomes cverwhehning, and he did not see any significant changes in the new information which was submitted. He commanted that this is a nice project but in the wrong place, and he felt the Commission should abide by the previously approved plan for the industrial use of this site. MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner Wigley to stand by the Planning Commission's previous recommendation to deny the Land Use Guide Plan. Amendment for this site. Chairman Stulberg stated that we are reaffirming the past decision, and that the new information does not change the Commission's previcus decision, nor the scope of their decision: Commissioner Zylla commented that he was appreciative of the way the homeowners who opposed this application prepared and organized their testimony. He said he felt there was excellent planning for the public hearing held jointly by Minnetonka and 0 Planning: Commission Nnutes June 9,1993 Page 96 Plymouth, which offend the Commissions a look at the impact of the project as a whole. Commissioner Ogley commented that the fundamental issue of this request was to change the guiding, which changes the "game" for a great number of people. Chairman Stulberg said that he viewed this inquest as a land use issue and that this project was not an appropriate use in this location. He also stated that his comments and those of Commissioner Zylla were personal views and did not rcpr>sent the views of the entire Planning Commission. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote.. W. Hoffman requested that this proposal not go to Council until July 19 1993. The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. 0