HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-05-1993CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MAY 5,1993
EMWERS PRESENT: Acting Chairman Dennis Zylla, Commissioners Fd Albro,
Scott Syverson, Barb Stimson, Julie Witt; and Mike
Wigley.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Mike Stulberg.
STAFF PRESENT; Director ChuckDillentd, City Engineer Dan Faulkner,
and Planning Secretary Jackie Watson.
WAYNE LYNCH (93027)
Acting Chairman Zylla introduced the request by Wayne Lynch for a Home Occupation
to operate a perfume -cologne dikiibutorship at 14310 -18th Avenue North.
Director Dillemd reviewed the April 19, 1993 staff report.
Arg Chairman Zylla introduced Mr. Wayne Lynch, the petitioner.
Mr. Lynch stated that he was in agreement with the April 19, 1993 staff report.
Acting Chairman Zylla opened and closed the Public Hearing as there was no one
present to speak on the issue.
MOTION by Commissioner Albro, seconded by Commissioner Wigley, to recommend
approval of the request by Wayne Lynch for a Home Occupation to operate a perfume -
cologne distributorship at 14310 -18th Avenue North, subject to all conditions listed in
the April 19, 1993 staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote.
LAUKKA-WILLMMS PARSERS LAKE (93028)
Acting Chairman Zylla introduced the request by Laukka: Williams Parkers Lake fora
MPUD Preliminary Plan/Plat and Conditional Use Permit for .-Parkers Lake IQorth 9th
Addition" located northeast and southeast of the intersection of Shenandoah Lane and
Vicksburg Lane.
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Director Dillenrd reviewed the April 19, 1993 staff report. Director Dillerod statedthatallreferencetounitsproposedinOutiotBshouldbecorrectedto34units (not 35) throughout the entire staff report.
Acting Chairman zylla introduced Mr. Larry Loukka, the petitioner,
Mr. Laukka reviewed some of the history of this site in regards to density; and, the1,147 housing units that were to be the maximum number of units on the entire
development. Mr. laukka stated that he has continually strived to maximize the use ofthesewersystemsinstalledonthesiteforthemaximumdensity. He discussed the
situation with outiot P, which is now owned by the City of Minneapolis, and his desiretobeableto, at some in the future, transfer some of the density from Outlot P toOutlotBatthenorthernportionofthesite. Mr. Laukka stated that he is unable topurchaseOutlotP, but he hopes that if it is developed by the City;of Minneapolis orsoldtoanotherdeveloper, that this transfer of density can be accomplished.
Mr. Laukka discussed the wetland mitigation issue. He said that the Parkers Lake
North 7th Addition development was designed and approved according to the wetland
preservation rules in place at the time of approval. He stated that the 1991 WeilandConservationActhaschangedthemitigationrequirementsonthissite, and he now hastomitigatemorewetlandfilling.
Mr. Laukka discussed the use of a portion ofthe City of Plymouth park land to
mitigate the amount of wetland needed since the new regulations went into effect. HesaidthathewasnotawareofanypromisetotheCitybyhiscompanytobuildatrailaroundtheCityparkareainreturnforusingaportionoftheparksiteformitigaiionPurposes. He explained that the project engineers had made this agreement with theCityandhadfailedtoinformhimofit. He said that he is not willing to stand theexpenseofbuildingatrailaroundtheCitypark.
Acting chairman zylta introduced Mr, Miles Lindberg of BRW, project engineers forthisproposal.
Mr, Lindberg discussed the changes in the law regarding the wetlands on the severalLaukkasites. He said that they had talked with the City of Minneapolis about
mitigating the wetlands on its site but they were not successful in reaching anyagreementwiththeCityofMinneapolis. He said he understood that the City ofPlymouthParkDepartmenthadagreedtothemitigationintheparkareainreturn forthedeveloperconstructingapatharoundthewetlandarea. He said this was understoodbyBRWbutitwasneverputinwriting.
Mr. Lindberg stated that Laukka-Williams was not the only developer that Wouldbenefitfromthemitigationplan. He said that the City park neighborhood play areaandtheMinneapolisCommunityDevelopmentAuthority (MCDA) property would
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benefit from the roads for which miti}•ation is required and he would like to revisit the
discussion of the trail with those that, cendit from it.
Mr. Lindberg stated that if the mitigation can not be accomplished on the site of the
City Park without doing the trail, the only other option for the mitigation would be at
the southeast comer of Outlet B.
Mr. Lindberg described the homes to be built on the site, and stated that they will not
be asking for any reduced setbacks along Vicksburg Lane. He described the 8 foot
high berm with landscaping along Vicksburg Lane. He said that the units proposed for
Outlet R will be smaller, more compressed and compact units with 3 stories. These
units will be adjacentto the industrial park. He said the average setbacks along
Shenandoah Lane will be 35 to 44 feet.
Mr. Lindberg stated that they ars not agreement with the staff report regarding the
density transfer to Outlot B; and they would like the installation of B612 curb and
gutters waived throughout the interior streets of the site.
Director Dillered stated that a condition regarding the wetland issue could be added to
Condition No. 13 in the staff report. City Engineer Faulkner stated that this is covered
in the Engineer's Memo as well.
Mr. ;Lindberg described the trail that is desired by the City :Park and Recreation
Department.
Commissioner Wigley asked Mr. Lindberg to discuss the timing of the changes
regarding wetland mitigation.
Mr. Lindberg responded that the Army Corps of Engineers started making changes in
application of wetland rules in 1988. He stated that an EIS had been done for the site
and permits had been received stating that they would not have to make any
adjustments. He stated that when the rules were changed, commitments had already
been made for the development of Parkers Lake 7th Addition and they could not be
delayed, so they agreed to the increase in wetland mitigation elsewhere -the City -Park
site.
Mr. Laukka staled that he continued with the site development according to the original
approved plan. The MCDA refused to participate in this effort. He said that the relief
is for I of an acre for this mitigation, at great cost. He said the trail around the park
area is estimated to cost $37,000. He said he has already spent $100,000 on the
mitigation problem.
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Mr. Laukka discussed the curb issue, stating the all prior development on the site has
been done without the B612 curb and gutter and he wants to be consistent 'with the
prior development.
City Engineer Faulkner stated that the Engineering Department had requested B612'
curb and gutter during previous phases of this development but this requirement Was
waived by City Council action.
Mr. l:aukka stated that they ate building the 7 ton roadways but do not want to install
the B612 curb and gutters.
Acting Chairman Zylla asked Mr. Laukka if they would come back with a request for
more units than the 34, requested in this application for Outlot B.
Mr. Laukka stated that he would not ask for more units on this site unless he was able
to transfer them from the City of Minneapolis site. He said that if he is unable to reach
an agreement on mitigation with the other property owners he will have to use a portion
of Outlot B for the mitigation. He said he understood that the City of Minneapolis was
trying to sell their site, and possibly downgrade the density on it.
Acting Chairman Zylla stated that the main concom from the beginning of this
development was not exceed the maximum density on the site. He said he seesno
problem with less density. He said that the trail issue should be in noted in the
conditions, of approval resolution.
Commissioner Wigley stated that the agreement between BRW and the City Park and
Recreation Department was probably an implicit agreement. He said that he felt this
agreement with Park Department was a benefit to the developer for the mitigatioh
necessary.
Mr. Laukka responded that he did not feel the trail plan to encircle OutlotA was
reasonable.
Acting Chairman Zylla opened the public Hearing.
Acting Chairman Zylla introduced Ms. Mary Alice Reynolds, 15720 -26th Avenue
North.
Ms. Reynolds stated that she is against the high density proposed adjacent to the
Timberton Development, which is north of Outlot B. She suggested that the high
density be kept away from the outer edges of the .development, She said she was
concerned that there would be more development on Outlot B at a later time.
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Acting Chairman ZYHa stated that this request for 34 units will have less impact on thesitethantheoriginalplan, but that more units could be shifted to this site in the future.
Director Dillemd stated that he received a telephone call from Mr. Jim Driscol whostatedhewasconcernedaboutthelandscapingalongVicksburgLane. DirectorDillemddescribedthelandscapingplannedforthesiteandsaiditisconsistentwith theplan. He said Mr. Driscol stated that the lights from the softball fields were also afoncemofhis.
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Acting Chairman Zylla closed the Public Hearing,
Commission Wigley stated that the B612 curb and gutter did not seem reasonable andprovidedverylittlebenefittothedeveloper. He said that he felt the agreement to
construct the trail was an implicit deal, and he said he felt the trail should be built bythedeveloper.
Commissioner Albro asked if density increased beyond 34 units in Outlot B whether thedensitycouldexceedtherange .
Director Dillerud stated that apublic hearing would be required if there was a inquesttotransferadditionalunitstothesite. He said that any additional units could exceedthespotdensity, but not the range approval.
Commissioner Albro asked why the Engineering Department was requiring B612 curbonthisportionofthedevelopment.
City Engineer Faulkner stated that they have always asked for the B612 curb and gutterbutithasalwaysbeeneliminatedfromtheplanduringapprovalprocess.
Acting Chairman Zylla suggested that the trail issue should be handled at City Council level. .
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Stimson, to
recommend approval of the inquest by Iaukka-Williams packers lake for a MixedPlannedUnitDevelopmentPreliminaryPlan/Plat and Conditional Use Permit for
Parkers Lake North 9th Addition" located northeast and southeast of the intersectionofShenandoahLaneandVicksburgLane, subject to all conditions listed in the April j19, 1993 staff report.
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley to amend Condition No. 13 stating that publictrailaroundthewetlandisrequiredasaresultofanimplicitagreementandcanonly beremovedbytheCityCouncil.
Motion died for lack of a second.
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MOTION to Amendby Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Albro to
remove requirement of B612 curb and gutter from Item 25. A. in the Bigincers'
Memo, and add a condition to the resolution stating that B612 curb and gutter am
waived for the interior streets on the site.
Roll Call Vote on Motion to Amend. 6 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote.
MOTION to Amend by Commis inner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Albro, to
correct all references in the staff report and resolutions of 35 units to 34 units for
Oudot B, and 183 total units for this application to 182 units.
Roll Call Vote on Motion to Amend. 6 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote.
Roll Call `dote on Main Motion. 6 Ayes. Motion carried on an unanimous vote;
NEDEGAARD CONSTRUCTION (93034)
Acting Chairman Zylla introduced the request by Nedegaard Construction for a
Residential Planned Unit Development Final Plan and Site Plan Amendment for
property located southwest of Rockford Road and larch Lane.
Acting Chairman Zylla waived the review of the April 26, 1993 staff report.
Acting Chairman ZyOa introduced Mr. Mike Gair, representing he petitioner.
Mr. Gair stated that a problem was inherited from the previous engineering firm which
necessitated the amendment of this application. 71.e resulting loss of 27,000 square
feet on the site resulted in this redesign amendment to the amount of guest parking on
the site (all homes will have at least 2 or 3 stall garages); the extension of bay windows
into the side yards, and, an increase in open space.
Mr. Gair stated that the reduction from 37 guest parking spaces to 12 eliminates some
blacktop and still averages 4 parking spaces per unit. He described their plan to
increase the number of plantings on the site. He said that the plan is to add a fence
along the north side of the site facing County Road 9,
Acting Chairman Zylla stated that he commended staff in bringing these changes back
to the Planning Commission to discuss the fact of whether the changes presented were
major or minor in nature.
Acting Chairman Zylla asked if the lot sizes were consistent with the original proposal.
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Mr. Gairstated that lot size, lot coverage, and setbacks all remain the same as the
original plan.
Commissioner Wigley asked Mr. Gair to discuss the east side landscaping plan.
Mr. Gain stated that the original plan was for 36 plantings. This has been increased to F
48 plantings. He said that the south side grading will not alter the existing woodland.
MOTION by Commissioner Wigley, seconded by Commissioner Syverson to
recommend approval of the request by Nedegaard Constriction for a Residential 1
Planned Unit Development Final Plan and Site Plan ,Amendment for property located i
southwest of Rockford Road and Larch Lane.
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Acting Chairman Zylla stated that these changes are reasonablefor the total plan, and i
do not constitute a major amendment to the plan, subject to all conditions listed in the
April 26, 1993 staff report
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Vote 6 Ayes. MOTIO14 carried. j
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Meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
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