HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 11-28-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING CO11MISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 23, 14990
The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning
Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT. Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners
John Wire, dial Pierce, Dennis Zylla, Joy
Tierney, Larry Marofsky, and Michael
Stulberg.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
STAFF PRESENT: Coordinator Charles Dillerud, Director
Blair Tremere, Assistant City Engineer
John Sweeney, and Sr. Clerk/Typist
Denise '_anthier..
MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg, to approve the minutes for the: November 14,
1990, Planning Commission meetir:g, subject to the
following changes:
On Page 196:, paragraph 2, the ti:Ie of Chairman Marofsky
should be changed to Co,mnissioner Marofsky.
On Page 196, paragraph 10 shuld be charged to read,
Commissioner Tierney asked Mr Miller to exp'ain the
history of his previous petition to rezone thi- site in
1967.11
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Robert and ROBERT AND ANDREA
Andrea Nichols for a Planned Unit De eiopment Plan and NICHOLS (90096)
Conditional Use Permit amendment, to Cimarron Ponds RPUD to
construct a three season porch for property located at
1090 Weston Lane North
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the November 14,
1990, staff report.
Commissioner Wire .sked if the street grade is higher than
if the property.
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Novembe,,- 28, 1990
Page 204
Commissioner Pierce asked if there is a berm on the
property.
Chainitan Plufka introduced Bill Chenvert, the builder
representing Robert and Andrea Nichols.
Mr. Chenvert stated that he has built three other three
eason porches for residents in the Cimarron Ponds
development. He stated that one of the porches he buOt
fronts Vicksburg Lane and is very similar in appearc-nce
and setbacks to the porch proposed. Mr. !.*henvert stated
that the petitioners have conformed to ail of Cimarron
Ponds Homeowner Association's requirements by reducing the
size of the porch to 10' x 18' and by using the same
materials for the brick and windows as the other porches
built within the development.
Chairman Plufka opened the public hearing,
Chairman Plufka introduced Tony Lubow-t.-, representative
of the Cimarron Ponds Homeowner Association.
Mr. Lubowitz stated that the petitioners are, with the
revised plans, in conformance with the Homeowner
Association's requirements for building a three season
porch, but stated that the Homeowner Association has not
formally approved it yet. Mr. Lubowitz stated he is upset
to see the foundation in before final approval. He added
that the street grade is 5' to 6' above the level of the
house and that there is berming along the street.
Commissioner Pierce asked how many other applications for
three season porches has Cimarron Ponds Homeowner
Association approved.
Mr, Lubowitz respondad that they have approved 6 or 7
applications.
Commissioner Pier.e suggested the Cimarron Ponds Homeownet
Association request a blanket approval, for building three
season porches.
Mr. Luhowitz stated that a blanket approval might get lost
or misconstrued, and the Homeowner Association could lose
control.
Commissioner Zylla asked how the Homeowner Association
feels about the setback proposed.
Mr. Lubowitz responded that the Homeowner Association
prefers an 8' setback, but that they are satisfied with a
6' setback as proposed since there are no neighbors across
the street.
Chairman Plufka closed the public hearing.
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Page 205
Commissioner Stulberg asked Mr. Chenvert what has already
been started as far as the building process for this
proposal.
Mr. Chenvert responded that the cement pad and footings
are in place.
Commissioner Pierce asked staff if the proposed reduction
in porch size would make a difference in staff's current
recommendation.,
Coordinator Dillerud responded affirmatively, stating
staff would then recommend approval.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner
Wire, to recommend approval of the request by Robert and
Andrea Nichols for a Planned Unit Development Plan and
Conditional Use Permit amendment to Cimarron Ponds RPUD to
construct a three season porch for property located at
1090 Weston Lane North, subject to the conditions set
forth by staff in the approving resolution, but amending
the introduction paragraph to state the size of the porch
as 101 x 18'.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Chairman
Plufka, to amend the main motion by adding a fourth
condition stating that approval is conditioned upon the
formal approval by Cimarron Ponds Homeowner Association.
Roll Call Vote on Amending Notion. 7 Ayes,. MOTION
Carried.
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Dwight Larson
Yor a Conditional Use Permit, Site Plan, and variances to
improve and operate a car wash for property "located at
11318, Highway 55.
Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the November 15,
1990, staff report.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that staff received amended
plans that afternoon, but they have not had an opportunity
to review them.
Chairman Pllsfka introduced Del Erickson, the architect
representing the petitioner.
Mr. Erickson stated that the petitioner wants to reopen
this car wash business. He stated that there will be no
major changes to the site except for some upgrading
landscaping, curbing, etc.). Mr. Erickson expressed a
MOTION TO APPROVE
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION TO AMEND
CARRIED
VOTE - MAIN MOTION
CARRIED
DWIGHT LARSON (90099)
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November 2E, 1990
Page 206
concern about being set back in time due to a tabling
action as recommended by staff. He asked the Commission
for another alternative.
Chairman Plufka introduced Dwight Larson, the petitioner.
Mr. Larson stated than, we wants to use the existing
driveway to Test Medicine Lake Drive, and the service
drive. He stated that he does not want to improve the
west portion of the site where the exi.stin.g service
station is located until his plans for a new service
station are complete.
Chairman Plufka opened the public hearing.. There was no
one present to speak on the issue.
Commissioner Pierce asl-ed staff why a Conditional Use
Permit is required for the station.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that 4he station itself is
a legal nonconforming use, butt the car wash vacuum
apparatus will be lucaied on the service station site, and
that new use requires a Conditional Use Permit.
Commissioner Pierce asked if the petitioner could amend
the Conditional Use Permit for a joint use, but keep the
parcels separate.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that another option could be
having no car wash activity off the car wash site.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner MOTIGN TO CONTINUE
Pierce, to continue the public hearing for the request by PUBLIC NEARING
Dwight Larson to the December 5, 1990, Planning Commission
meeting.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg and VOTE _ MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka Nay. Commissioner Marofsky Abstained.
MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Davey Tree DAVEY TREE EXPERT
Expert Company for a Conditional Use Permit and Sitie Plan COMPANY (90101)
for property located at 2500 Eernbrook Lane North.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the November 15,
1990, staff report.
Chairman Plufka introduced James Parker, the engineer
representing the petitioner.
Mr.. Parker stated that he had no comments, but would be
available to answer questions,
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November 28, 1990
Page 207
Chairman Plufka opened the public hearing. There was no
one present to speak on the issue.
Chairman Plufka closedthe public. hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded bt Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Mire, to recommend approval of the request by Davey Tree
Expert Company for a Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan
for property locat& at 2500 Fernbrook Lane -North, subject
to conditions set forth by staff in the approving
resolution.
Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes.. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Clarence and CLARENCE AND MARILYN
Marilyn Gordon for a Conditional Use Permit and General GORDON (90102)
Development Plan amendment for property located' at 410
Zinnia Lane North.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the November 15,
1990, staff report...
Commissioner Marofsky asked if the existing General
Development Plan specifies a dupl'ax or two-family
residence for the other non• -single family lots.
Coordinator Dillerud responded duplex.
Commissioner^ Marofsky asked if parking would be
ufficent.
Coordinator Dillerud responded affirmatively, stating that
the existing drivew,y was lengthy.
Commissioner Marofsky asked if staff has inspected the
house to verify that the proper facilities are there a
make this house into a duplex.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that the City has verified
this by "as -bunts, but that they could also physically
inspect the house if the Commission so desired.
Chairman Plufka introduced Marilyn Gordon, the petitioner..
Ms. Gordon stated that the house was built six years ago.
She expressed her frustration over the high fees the City
charges utilities and parks when the house is converted to
a duplex.
Commis-' ~ner Pierce asked if there is a separate
exit/entrance for the lower duplex.
Ms. Gordon responded affirmatively and added that there is
adequate parking space.
Chairman Plufka opened the public heari;g.
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November 28, 1990
Page 208
Chairman Plufka introduced
Wedgewood Lane North..
Tracy Kochenderfer of 321
Ms. Kochendorfer stated that she has no concerns ever the
Plufka
proposed plan.
a recess at
Chairman Plufka closed the public hearing..
Chairman
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney, to recommend approval of the request by Clarence
at 8:10 p.m.
and Marilyn Gordon. for a Conditional Use Permit and
General Development Plan amendment for property located at
410 zinnia Lane North, subject to the conditions set forth
by staff in the approving resolution.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Pierce, to amend the main motion by addition a condition
stating that the petitioners must secure a Certificate of
Occupancy for a two-family dwelling unit.
Roll Call, Vote on Motion to Amend. 6 Ayes. Commissioner VOTE- MOTION TO AMEND
Wire Nay. MOTION carried. CARRIED
Roll Call Vote on Moin Motion. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried:. VOTE - MAIN MOTION
CARRIED
Chairman Plufka called for a recess at 8*05 p.m.
Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting at 8:10 p.m.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Union City UNION CITY MISSION
Mission for a Condit-, aal Use Permit amendment for (90 07)
property located at the southwest corner of East Medicine
Lake Boulevard and 36th Avenue North..
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the November 15,
1990, staff report.
Chairman Plufka introduced Pat Neils, member of the Board
of Directors for the union City Mission. Ms. Neils
introduced other board members and staff of the Union City
Mission (Pat: Murphy, Lawrence Wilz, and Wayne Ward). Ms..
Neils stated that she had no comments, but that she would
be available for questions.
Commissioner Marofsky asked if the changer will adjust the
total number of residents.
Coordinator Dillerud responded affirmatively, stating that
the change will increase the number of residents by 19
Commissioner Marofsky stated there seems to be space
available, other than this facility, in the Union City
Mission.
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Page 209
Commissioner Marofsky asked what the exact use will be of
the facility.
Ms. Murphy, Executive Director for the Union City Mission,
responded that they are proposing, to extend the same
program as now in the Mission Lodge, providing, a longer
program stay for the residents (up to one year).
Commissioner Marofsky asked if Union City Mission will
provide security to keep their residents on the premises.
Ms. Murphy responded that they are staffed 24 hours a day,
and that they have a 10:30 p.m. curfew.
Chairman Plufka opened the public hearing. U
Chairman Plufka noted the Planning Commission's receipt of
a letter from Norbert and Carol Herby and a letter from
Robert and Pat Katzmarek, both in opposition to the
application.
Chairman Plufka introduced Norbert Herby of 3430 East
Medicine Lake Boulevard.
Mr. Herby expressed concern over the safety of the
neighborhood due to the drinking and loittering from
residents of the Union City Mission, Mr. Herby asked that
the following questions be addressed: 1) What percent of
the Union City Mission residents are residents of
Plymouth? 2) Are all of Union City Mission's facilities
staffed? 3) How many police and emergency calls has the
City of Plymouth responded to in this area?
Chairman Plufka introduced Pat K4tzmarek of 3520 East
Medi.-ine Lake Boulevard.
Ms. Katzmarek stated that she resides directly across from
the Hazelden facility. She stated the proposed plan will
have a negative impact on the neighborhood and that there
is currently a lot of unrestricted activity which upsets
the neighborhood. She stated that there were already
several residential treatment facilities in this
neighborhood, and she heard that the existing
detoxification facility at Hazeldon is pmposed to double
in size. She asked for a moratorium on all residential
treatment failities of any cype in this neighborhood.
Ms. Murphy addressed the questions and concerns of Mr.
Herby and Ms. Katzmarek. Ms. Murphy stated that all of
their facilities have separate staff, but the Smith Lodge
and Mission Lodge would be served by the same staff group.
Ms. Murphy stated that these two facilities are not
defined as treatment program facilities. She stated the
residents are allowed to select the programs they wish to
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November 28, 1990
Page 210
eAftkngagein. Ms. Murphy stated that drinking is not allowed
on the premises, and that most of the people found
wandering are from the nursing home, and not from the
Mission Lodge. tis. Murphy added' that there are no plans
to expand the Union City Mission Detoxification Center.
The Mazelden facility is not part of the ?inion City
Mission.
Commissioner Pierce asked if transportation is-ovided to
the residents of Union City Mission.
Ms Murphy responded affi,rmativety, stating that
transportation is provided twice a day to downtown
Minneapolis..
Chairman Plufka asked how long Union City Mission has been
at this site..
Ms. Murphy responded that it has been in existence since
the 1920s, with approximately 2,000 residents at its.
largest, but it has since then reduced to approximately
250 residents.
Commissioner Wire stated he is concerned about what he has
heard from the residents of the neighborhood regarding the
drinking and loitering problems.
Ms. Murphy stated that they were not notified of any
drinking or 1:ering problems by residents of the Union
City Mission, and suggested the neighborhood notify the
Union City Mission immediately of any future concerns they
have..
Chairman Plufka introduced Walter Schulz of 3530 east
Medicine Lake Boulevard.
Mr. Schulz stated he resides across from the property and
expressed his concern for safety in that area of the
neighborhood clue to tiie drinking and loitering problems.
Chairman Plufka introduced Gary Fedo of 10910 34th Avenue
North.
Mr. Fedo stated that he has resided in this neighborhood
for 12 years and the drinking by the residents of Union
City Mission within the neighborhood has decreased ove.
the years.. He did express a concern, though, that people
are walking dangerously in the middle of the streets.
Chairman Plufka closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Wire asked if the proposed 19 beds would
replace the woodworking shop.
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November 28, 1990
Page 211
Ms. Murphy responded negatively, stating that the
woodworking shop is in the basement of the facility.
Commissioner Wire asked how Union City Mission plans to
handle the current drinking and loitering problems.
Ms. Murphy stated that generally the problem lies with the
elderly residents in the nursing home. She suggested that
Union City Mission will make sure the residents use the
bus stop on their premises instead of the one on 36th
Avenue North.
Comatissiuner Zylla asked if the Union 'ity Mission
maintains a 24 hour a day telephone service.
Ms. Murphy responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Zylla asked if residents are provided
transportation when they are discharged.
Ms. Murphy responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that he resides in this
neighborhood and feels that the residents of Union City
Mission have every right to walk freely. Commissioner
Marofsky stated that Union City Mission has not shown a
need to expand their total residential population. He
noted that the Master Plan for the Union City Mission
shows other facilities scheduled for expansion in beds in
the future, and he questioned why that capacity would not
be used for this need. He added that a mixed use
situation such as this is bound to create some problems.
Commissioner Wire stated that there has been a gradual
increase in population at Union City Mission, and that
Union City Mission should 'lirst assess the problems they
currently have and fix them before expanding.
Chairman Plufka stated that he does not feel this is a new
use and added that it exists legally and within the
Ordinance standards. Chairman Plufka also stated that the
City does not have control over how Union City Mission
conducts their programming which is licensed by other
agencies.
LOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney, to recommend approval of the request by Union
City Mission for a Conditional Use Permit for property
located at the southwest corner of East Medicine Lake
Boulevard and 36th Avenue North, subject to the conditions
set forth by staff in the approving resolution.
isCommissioner Pierce asked what the site amenities are and
if there are any marked paths for the residents to walk
on.
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November 28, 1990
Page 212
Eis. Murphy responded that there are paths and plenty of
walking space.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that he is not in favor of
the proposed Conditional Use Permit because he feeds there
should be a limit to the number of beds in the Master
Plat?.. Commissioner Stulberg noted, thought that he feels
the transitionalhousing: program * good.
Comwissioner Mire stated that he is not in favor of the
proposed Conditional Use Permit because he feels Union
Cit; Mission has not effectively worked with or cooperated'
with the neighborhood in order to correct the current
drinking and loitering problems.
Commissioner Stulberg noted that there are no police
reports submitted at this public hearing to verify the
fact that there are problems.
Director Tremere stated that one of the conditions for
approval of the Conditional Use Permit is to have it
reviewed annually. He stated that if there are problems
the City of Plymouth has the right to review the
Conditional Use Permit, and either renew it or not. He
advised that the focus should be on the proposed use as an
amendment to the Conditional Use Permit, and that problems
with other aspects of the facility can be addressed once
the facts and concerns have been identified.
Commissioner Zylla stated he feels it is good. to have the
Conditional Use Permit reviewed annually.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes, Commissioners Mire, Marofsky, VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
and Stulberg flay. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the Zoning Ordinance amendment ZONIWG ORDINANCE
regarding minimum side yards in R -IA Districts, citing the AMENDMENT (5-E. 1)
staff memorandum.
Chairman Plufka opened the public hearing.
Commissioner Marofsky stated he does not agree with the
10 -foot minimum side yard as proposed for the R -1A
District.
ommissioner Pierce stated he was in favor of the 10 -foot
minimum side yard for on -living areas itt the R -IA
District.
Chairman Plufka closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commiss oner Zylla, MOTION TO DENY
to not recommend approval of the Zoning Ordinance
amendment regarding minimum side yard in R -1A District.
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November 28, 1990
Page 213
Director Tremere stated that the Board of Zoning
Adjustments and Appeals are being faced with more appeals
from residents desiring to add garages to older homes.
The amendment was drafted at Council d=irection.
Roll Call. Vote. 7 ,Ayes. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the Zoning Ordinance amendment
regarding Planned Unit Development monument signs and
perimeter landscape improvements, Citing the staff
memorandum.
Chairman. Plufka opened the public h.;aring. There was no
one to speak on the issue.
Chairman Plufka closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberq, seconded by Commissioner
Marofsky, to recommend approval of the Zoning Ordinance
amendment regardira Planned Unit development monument
signs and perimeter landscape improvements..
Commissioner [lire asked what the reasoning is, by this
amendment, for requiring developers to put in all the
perimeter landscaping in Phase I.
Ah Directcr Tremere responded that under the current Zoning
Ordinance, developers are not required to put in all the
perimeter landscaping and monument signs by a certain
time, and some have wait,d 4:,*il the last phase of a
project. A related problem with this is that developers
are selling the PUD lots befo,,e the landscaping is
complete, and downstream performance is a problem with the
original developer almost "out" of the project.
Commissioner Wire stated that he agrees with this Zoning
Ordinance amendment in principle, but believes there are
other options.
Roll Call Vote. b Ayes. Commissioner Vire Nay. MOTION
carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the Zoning Ordinance amendment
regarding minimum parking for multiple family dwellings,
citing the staff memorandum.
Chairman Plufka opened tllv tublic hearing..
Commissioner Marofsky stated he is concerned that the
proposed 1 space per 300 square feet covering potential
guests is only related to recreational facilities, and
some apartment complexes dR not have such facilities..
40Commissioner Marofsky sugges`ed it-mizing and specifying
now the parking spaces per unit are to be used for guest
purposes.
Chairman Plufka closed the public hearing.
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
ZONING ORDINANCE
AMENDMENT (5.F. 2)
MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE MOTION CARRIED
ZONING ORDINANCE
AMENDMENT (5.F. 3)
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November 23, 1990
Page 214
MOTION by Cowissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner :,LOTION TO APPROVE
Wire, to recommend approval of the Zoning Oru nance
amendment regarding minimum parking for multiple family
dwellings, subject to the following changer
The minimum parking shall be 2 parking spaces per unit,
with 1k spaces (one of which shall be a garage space) for
the base unit, exterior space for guest parking, plus I
additional space per 300 square feet of floor area for
party room or recreational parking, with the pr)vision
that the driveways into garages and garage aprons shall
not be counted as guest parking areas.
Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the Zoning Ordinance amendment ZONING ORDINANCE
regarding temporary sign provisions in all districts, AMENDMENT (5.F. 4)
citing the staff report.
Chairman Plufka opened the public hearing.
Director Tremere stated the Council directed that staff
and the Commission consider revisi%lig the sign regulations
relative to temporary real estate signs. Enforcement
efforts led tc, the observation that these signs may not be
contrary to current community standards.
Chairman Plufka stated that he does not want to
selectively enforce only what the resideits of Plymouth
may desire.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that the City may want to
provide continuity in the size of signs.
Commissioner Wire stated he feels the size and location of
smaller signs need to be enforced.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Coatmissioner MOTION TO 0PROVE
Wire, to recommend approval of the Zoning Ordinance
amendment for Section 10, Subdivision A, paragraph 2d, 1
1), subject to the following change. In the firs--
sentence, irstsentence, strike the word "and/" before the words "one
temporary."
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
lire, to recommend approval of the Zoning Ordinance
amendment for Section 10, Subdivision A, paragraph 2d, 1
2), as reflected in the staff report sub.,ect to the
following changes:
In the first senterce, retain the word "one" before the
word "temporary" and strike the words "real estate` before
the word "signs."
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Page 215
Following the last sentence, add, another sentence stating
40 that "No other temporary signs shall be permitted."
Commissioner Marofsky stated that by this action, there is
aclear statement that only one temporary sign can be
permitted at a time.
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg, to recommend approval of tile Zoning Ordinance
amendment for Section 10, Subdivision A, paragraphs 3c,
4c, 5d, and 6d (1) and (2), as reflected in the staff
report subject to the following change:
In the first sentence of paragraph (1), strike the word
construction" before the word "sign."
In the first sentence of paragraph (2). strike the words
real estate" before the word "sign."
Following the last sentence of paragraph (2), add another
sentence stating that "No other temporary signs shall be
Perm fitted.
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg, to recommend approval of the remaining Zoning
Ordinance amendments reflected in the staff report
regarding temporary sign provisions in all districts.
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried.
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner
Marofsky, to recommend adoption of the real estate sign
ordinance provisions of the City of St. Louis Park.
Commissioner Marofsky suggested the Commission review the
real estate sign ordinance of St, Louis Park before
voting.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Chairman
Plufta, to table the motion recommending approval of
adopting the real estate sign ordinance of St. Louis Park
until the Commission has had time to review the ordinance.
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION to table carried.
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO APPROVE
MOTION TO TABLE
VOTE - MOTION TO TABLE
CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO DCFER
Wire, to defer the public hearing concerning the Zoning
Ordinance amendment regarding Planned Unit Development
Attributes until the December 19, 1990, Planning
Commission meeting.
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRED
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Chairman Plufka introduced the Zoning Ordinance amendment ZONING ORDINANCE
regarding standards for outside display, storage and s --le AMENDMENT (S.F. 5))
of merchandise citing the stal'*f report and the report of
the Task Force.
Chairmnan Plufka opened the public hearing.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that if the area for outside
display were considered retail space,, additional parking
would be required, but with a Conditional Use Permit
additional parking would not be required.
Chairman Plufka noted the Planning Commission's receipt of
a letter from Jerry Theis of Dun ^e Nursery,
Chairman Plufka recognized Jerry Theis of Dundee Nursery.
Mr. Theis stated that he does not want aspects of his
nursery operation to be closed or illegal because of an
inadvertent Zoning Ordinance change. He statod he
believes his nursery is an asset to the community.
Chairman Plufka stated that he does not feel it is fair
that a retail store may obtain an administrative permit to
store bedding plants outside and a nursery must apply for
a Conditional Use Permit.
Mft. ALM
Commissioner Marofsky noted that an administrative permit
is valid for only for 60 days and after 60 days a
Conditional Use Permit is required.
Director Tremere explained he had discussed Mr. Theis'
concerns with him and that the nursery was not in the
business distri-';ts covered by the Ordinance. There
possibly s a need for specific requirements for nurseries
and greenhouses in the urban business districts.
Chairman Plufka continued the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO DEFER
Wire, to defer the Zoning Ordinance amendmUnt regarding
standards for outride display, storage and sale of
merchandise to the December 5, 1990, Planning Commission
meeting in order to notify individuals on the Ad Hoc Task
Force of this proposed amendment.
Vote, All Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka adjourned the meeting at 10:25 p.m.