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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 11-14-1990CITY Or PLYMOUTH PLANNING COM41SSION 14INUTES NOVEMBER 14, 1950 Tiee Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. MMI PRESET. Chairman Plufka, Commissioners Wire, Pierce, Zylla, Tierney, Mart.,)fsky, and Stulberg. MEMBERS ABSENT! None. STAFF PRESEIN'Tt Coordinator Charles Di 11 erud, City Engineer Dan Faulkner, and Planning Secretary Jackie Watson. Motion by Comimissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Pierce to approve the minutes for October 24, 1990 with a change to the last paragraph on page 189, changing the words "storage area" to "overhead garage doors." Vote. 5 Aves, Commissioners Wire and Tierney abstained. VOTE - 140TION CARRIED Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Orville and ORVILLE AND JOYCE Joyce Miller for Rezoning, Preliminary Plat and Variance MILLER (90081) for "Kingsway Estates" loc ted at the northeast corner of County Road 6 and. Xanthus Lane. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the October 25, 1.990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Greg Frank of McCombs, Frank, Roos representing the petitioners. Mr. Frank stated that the petitioners were only in favor of dedicating 25 feet of their property for a public Xanthus Lane. He said that the remainder of land required for a public road should come from the property owners to the west. Mr. Frink stated that he understood that the Miller property extends to the center of the existing private road, Xanthus Lane. Planning Commission Minutes Nove)mber 14, 1990 Page 196 Commissioner Marofsky asked where the closest fire hydrants are located. City E'tigineer Faulkner stated that the closest •sire hydrant is located on County Road 6.. City Engineer Faulkner stated that he thought there was a separate easement along Xanthus Lane that is 600 feet long. Mr. Frank stated that mesa of the property owners along Xanthus Lan, are not interested in developing their property; are against having City sewer; and would not be fble to develop their property without sewer. He said that many of the sires would not meet the standards for lot sizes if divided. He showed pictures of the area and discussed the loss of significant trees and privacy that would be destroyed if the public road were installed on the Xanthus Lane center line.. He stated that it is a hardship for the petitioners to have to pay for the entire street adjacent to their property simply because they are the first to develop in this area.. Mr. Frank discussed. the access from the proposed lots and stated that in his discussion with the County, Lots 3 and 4 could have direct access onto County Road 6. He said Lots 1 and 2 would have access onto Xanthus. Lane.. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the letter he has from the County states that access from all four lots should be onto Xanthus Lane and not onto County Road 6, using a 90 d4gree east cul-de-sac from the Xanthus intersection with County Road 6. Chairman Plufka introduced. Mrs. Joyce Miller of 18630 County Road 6, the petitioner. Mrs. Miler stated that she wanted to see Xanthus Lane remain as a private road. She said that the residents maintain the lane and that a 50 foot public road would destroy the aesthetics of the area.. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Bill Griffith of the Larkin Hoffman law fir: - Mr. ir°- Mr. Griffitn stated that hp was representing Gary field, owner (,,fhe property to No north of the Miller site. He stated that there is currently a dispute over the property line betAeen the two sites. He r°k-ported that the Helds are agains+ the rezoning and higher density proposed for the area. ;fie said that the Helds are concerned cver the additional ria; off that would occur if the Miller site were Plaiining Commission Minutes November 14, 1990 Page 197 developed, and they feel the alteration of the neighborhood would decrease the value of their property. Mr. Griffith stated that although the City staff viewed the PRD zoning as a holding zone, some cities do have estate" zones, and, the City should leave it as PRD to preserve the "estate" quality of the neighborhood. Chairman Plufka stated that the City ordinance does not provide for estate zones. Chairrian Plufka introduced Mr. Date Ladwig of 18540 County Road, 6. Mr. Ladwig stated that he is against the rezoning and any access from the Miller site onto County Road 6. Chairman Plufka -introduced Mr. William Ogden. Mr, Ogden stated that his property notice received in the mail did not specifically state the plans to tranform Xanthus Lane into a public street and the division of the Miller site. He said he preferred to see the Miller sate divided into two parcels rather than four so that the lots would be larger in size. toCoord;-ator Dillerud stated that lot size in the R -IA District has remained at 18,500 square feat for at least the past 16 years. Commissioner Marofsky observed that the Miller site could be divided into as many as six or seven lots because of its size. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Dave Romaess of 1520 Xanthus Lane. Mr. Romness stated that he wanted Xanthus Lane to remain a private road and that he was against the division of the Miller site. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr, George Steiner of 1520 Xanthus Lane. Mr. Steirer stated that be was against the rezoning of the Miller site; against Xanthus Lane becoming a public road; and in favor of only two lots being created if the division was approved. Chairman Plufka introduced Ms. Missy Staples Thompson of 1640 Xanthus Lane. its. Thompson stated that she was representing her mother who is the owner of the Staples site. She said that her M Planning Commission Minutes NovembJ 14, 1990 Page 198 mother was against the division of the Miller site and the change in Xanthus Lane to a public road. Commissioner Marofsky stated that existing easements that were granted to the Millers would continue in effect for all future property owners. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Orville Miller, the petitioner. Mr. Miller stated that he would like to see Xanthus Lane remain a private road so that the aesthetics of the neighborhood aia not destroyed. He said he did not want to see egress from the new lots created through his existing driveway. Chairman Plufka read a letter rece!ved from Mr. Joseph Kaziny which stated he was against the division of the Miller site and the change in Xanthus Lane to a public road. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. Commissioner Wire questionedthe procedure of creating a public road by normally going down the center of the existing road. Coordinator Dillerud stated that under normal circumstances thi's would be done. Chairman Plufka expressed his view that property owners have the right to divide their property. He stated that he felt Xanthus Lane should not be changed into a public road until all the neighbors are agreeable, and at that time half of the land needed for the road should be taken from the adjoining properties on each side. Commissioner Marofsky suggested that the portion of the Miller site needed for the public road be designated as an outlot 4q anticipation of the need in the future. Commissioner Tierney asked Mr. Miller to explain the history of his previous petition to rezone this site in 1987. Mr. Miller responded that in 1987 City sewer was not available to the site and the petition to divide -the parcel into two lots with a septic system was denied. Commissioner Pierce asked for irformation regarding the extension from Lot 4 to the lake. Coordinator Dillerud stated that this extension was once proposed as an outlot providing access to the lake to all lots, Planning Commission Minutes November 14, 1990 Page 199 MOTION by C..-Alssioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Stulberg to recommend approval of the petition by Orville and Joyce Miller for Rezoning property from FRD (Future Restricted Development) to R -1A (Single Family Residential) located, in Kingsway Estates at the northeast corner of County Road 6 and Xanthus Lane. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, secoaded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Wire to recommend approval of the Preliminary Plat and Variance for Orville and Joyce Miller. MOTION to Amend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by MO1ION, TO AMEND Commissioner Pierce to recommend that 1/2 the street right-of-way needed to constrtict a public road be designated as an outlot and tied to Lot I for tax purposes; and be available for future dedication, if needed, for the construction of Xanthus Lane, subject to terms acceptable to the City Attorney. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes, Commissioner Wire, Nay. VOTE -EMOTION CARRIED Commissioner Wire stated that his nay vote reflected his disapproval of the single outlot desiptiation. MOTION to Amend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by MOTION TO AMEND Commissioner Tierney to change the wording of Condition No. 9 of the October 25, 1990 Staff Report for the Approval of the Preliminary Plat and Subdivision Variances from "dedicate a, half street right-of-way" in paragraph I to "access Lot 1 by a private street". Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Zy1la stated that he fav)red staff's recommended denial of the request because he felt there was no hardship and his desire to preserve the existing character of the area. Chairman Plufka stated that staff's denial recommendation was based only on the request f, --r a 50 foot right-of-way easement for the public road. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes, Commissioner ZyM, Mlay. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Chairman Plufka callei a recess at 9:10. The meeting was reconvened at 9:18. Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Greenwalt GREENWALT DEVELOPMENT, Development, Inc. for a Conditional Use Permit to allow TLNC. (90085) 1automobile minor repair/service related the "The Wholesale 46- Club,' located at the northeast corner of Nathan Lane and 56th Avenue North. Planning Commission Minutes November 14, 1990 Page 204 Chairman Plufka statedthat the original hearing for Greenwalt Development, Inc. for a Site Plan did not contain the Conditional Use Penait request_. Chairman Plufka waved the review of the November 8, 1990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka opened. the Public Hearing. There being no one present to speak on the subject, Chairman Plufka cloned the Public Hearing. MOTION by Commissioner Aire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO DEFER Stul'berg to defer the request by Greenwalt Development, Inc. for a Conditional Use Permit to a later date to be discussed at the same time as the request for the Site . Plan. Rohl Call Vote. 7 Ayes, MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CAPRIED Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Marshall Masko MARSHALL MASKO (90097) for a Preliminary Plat, Final Plat and Rezoning for Masko Addition located at the north side of the 18400 Block of County Road 6. Chairman Plufka waived: the review of the review of the October 25, 1990 Staff Report.. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Greg Frank who represented the petitioner.. Mr. Frank stated that he was in agreement with the October 25, 1994 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There being no one present to speak on the issue, Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Wire MOTION T4 APPROVE to recommend approval of the request by Marshall Masko for a Preliminary Pla., Final Plat and Rezoning for Masko Addition located at the north side of ,the 18400 Block of County Road 5 subject to the condirions ofthe October 25, 1990 Staff Report. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried -unanimously. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Chairman Plufka introduced the request of U.S. Homes.S. HOMES CORP./THOMP- Corporation/Thompson Land Development Division for u RPUD SON LAND DEVELOPMENT Preliminary Plan/Plat, Conditional Use Permit and Rezoning (10028) for the "Mitchell -Pearson property located at the southeast quadrant of the West City Limits and Medina Road. Plann.ing Commission Minutes November 14, 1.990 Page, 201 Commissioner Marofsky observed that the previous mass grading plan would have preserved 30 percent of the trees while the current plan will preserve 59 percent of the trees: He asked how much additional loss of trees would occur when house plans were fixed. Coordinator Dillerud stated that approximately 45 percent of the trees will be preserved after the grading and house locations are fixed. Commissioner Wire questioned whether the cost to save trees is more expensive than grading the site and planting new trees - Mir. Greg Frank, representing the petitioner, stated that it is expensive to save existing trees, but saving good trees is worth the cost. Commissioner Zylla stated that if the of sizes were held to the larger lot size in the R -1A zoae, more trees could be saved. Mr.. Bill Pritchard, the petitioner, stated that plans for the site include planting additional. trees along Medina Road to improve the appearance of the development but these are not a requirement nor are they on the plans. Chairman Plufka introduced Ms. Pat Paskob .of --.2-562 Holyname, Wayzata. Ms. Rascob stated that she was present to reinforce her previous concerns about the runoff from the development and to be reassured that runoff would not be any greater than it is at the present time. She also gave Chairman Plufka a copy of the Minnehaha Creek Watershed Permit stating that runoff could not be increased. City Engineer Faulkner stated that runoff leaving the site will be equal to or less than it currently is. Mr. Frank stated that three watershed districts are located on the site and they will comment once the preliminary plat is approved. Commissioner Pierce asked whether the City would be upgrading the flow and if there will be an impact. City Engineer Faulkner stated that the City is in the process of looking at compeosatory storage -for the runoff from the site. Commissioner Zylla stated that he felt there was a higher quality in developments in the LA -1 zone when developed as a conventional plat rather than as a PUD. Planning Commission Minutes November 14, 1990 Page 9-02 Mr. Frank responded that the attributes for PhDs provided more open space, ponding, private trails and amenities for the homeowners than a conventional plat,. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the PUD attributes would be discussed at a `Future meeting. Commissioner Stulberg stated that he felt PVDs create consistent neighborhoods instead of spot developments.. Chairman Plufka stated that one of the original intents of the PUD was to provide more affordable housing. Commissioner Pierce stated that the City may be too liberal with bonus points for the PUDs. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Wire to recommend approval of the request by U.S. Homes Corporation/Thompson land Development Division for a RPUD Preliminary Plan/Plat, Conditional Use Permit and Rezoning for the "Mitchell -Pearson" property located at the southeast quadrant of the West City Limits and Medina Road subject to conditions listed in the November 6, 1990 Staff Report, Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes, Commissioner Zylla, Nay. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED The Commissioners agreed to attend the December 7, 1990 Government Training Service Workshop on Planned Unit Developments as a group. The Planning Commission agreed unanimously to change the meeting dates in December to be December 5, and December 19, Chairman Plufka told the Commissioner that the next Wetlands Task Force meeting will be held on November 27, 1990 at 6:00 p.m. Coordinator Dillerud gave the Commissioners a status report on the Comprehensive Plan. Meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m. 2