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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 10-24-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING COKMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 24, 1990 The 'Regular Meeting of the City of Plym,-,uth Panning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m.. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners Dennis Zylla, Hal Pierce, Larry Marofsky and Michael Stulberg. MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioners Joy Tierney and John Wire. STAFF PRESENT: Coordinator Charles Dillerud, City Engineer Dan Faulkner, and Planning Secretary Jackie Watson. MINUTES MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE 0 Stulberg to approve the October 10, 1990 minutes with the addition of a sentence on Page 174 following the fifth paragraph stating that Acting Chairman Wire closed the Public Hearing. Vcte., 4 Ayes, Chairman Plufka abstained. MOTIO14 carri.d. Chairman Plufka introduced the requests of Greenwalt Development, Inc./M.G. Astleford Company for a Preliminary Plat, Amended General Development Plan, and Rezoning for Bass Lake Plaza 5th Addition"; and Site Plan, Zoning Ordinance Variances and Final Plat to Constr=ict "The Wholesale Club" and plat "Bass Lake Plaxa 5th Addition,"; located at the Northeast Corner of Nathai-i Lane and 56th Avenue North. The two Tlequests were listed as 5. A. and 5. B. on the agenda and were to be discussed in order but simultaneously. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the October 12, 1990 Staff Report regarding the Preliminary Plat, Amended General Development Plan and Rezoning for Greenwalt Development, Inc. for "Bass Lake Plaza 5th Addition". Commissioner Marofsky stated that paragraph 2 Linder item 1, on page 2, line 2 of the Staff Report should be R-3 rather than R-4. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED GREENWALT DEVELOPMENT INC. (90084 & 90085) Page 187 Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Greg Frank representing the petitioner. Mr. Frank stated that he was in agreement with the October 12, Staff Report. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the October 12, 1990 Staff Report for Greenwalt Development, Inc. for "Bass Like Plaza 5th Addition" regarding the Site Plant Zoning ordinance Variances and Final Plat to construct "The Wholesale Club". Coordinator Dillerud also showed some slides of the Fridley Wholesale Club to show the Commissioners how, brick and some berming enhancec the design of the Fridley site substantiating his recommendation for use of these items on the Plymouth site, Commissioner Marofsky commented that lie felt the pallet storage area constituted outside storage and would require a Conditional Use Permit. Chairman Plufka asked how the storm water from a parking area of this size would be handled. City Engineer Faulkner stated that there on storm water holding basins on the site. Mr. Frank indicated the locations of the ponding areas on the site and. stated. that the storm sewer is already in place along 56th Avenue North. Chairman Plufka requested that Mr. Frank discuss the deferred parking plan for the site. Mr. Frank stated that the deferred parking plan would allow landscape enhancements. He indicated how the creek water on the site would be routed through pipe if the deferred parking was not approved. This method of routing the creek water through pipe has been approved by the DNR and the City of Plymouth. Mr. Frank stated that the design of this site could be accomplished similar to the Fridley site, He said he agreed with Condition 10 of the Staff Report and would redesign the south and west area with, evergreen trees t5 foot on center with staff review of the Landscape Plan. Mr. Frank compared the parking variance request with other sites such as Cub Foods, Target and Holiday Stores who have 6 parking spaces per 1,000 square feet of floor area. He stated that The Wholesale Club would install additional structure parking if it became necessary, but past experience has shown that additional park -MV should not be needed, Planning Commission Minutes October 24, 1990 Page 1;88 AL Mr. Drank introduced Mr. Douglas Harden, the architect for The Wholesale Club. Mr. Harden showed the Commissioners some pictures of other sites which contained 35 percent brick intermixed with the concrete finish of the building. He p-noposed using tite 35 percent formula for the exterior of the building in Plymouth. He also stated that the landscaping will comply with the recommendations of the Staff Report. Chairman Plufka asked if all the inventory is stored on the floor display area of the building. Mr. Harden stated that some inventory is stored away from the display area but that the majority of inventory is in the display area of the store.. Cam ttissioner Pierce asked what hours the loading dock was used to receive new inventory. Mr. Darden stated that most deliveries are completed by Noon each day. Com.,missioner Marofsky asked why the ioading area was not placed on the east side of the buildiig in the design of the site. Mr. Harden stated that the main, entrance to the building is on the east side and that it does rot work from an operational standpoint to have both the m'in entrance and the loading area on the same side of the building. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearings for both 5.A. and 5.8. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Robert Haimnar of 5465 Orleans. Mr. Hammar asked what tie proposed density of the housing area to be located at the westerly area of the site would be if rezoned. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the density for R-3 would be approximately 7 unts per acre. He said this is lower than the current density on the present General Development Plan. Mr. Prank stated that there are no plans for this area at the present inner He said that until a developer is interested in this site it will remain an outiot.. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Allen Rul estein of 5505 Orleans Lane. Planning Commission Minutes October 24, 1990 Page 189 Mr. Rubestein stated that he represented the Cardinal Pidge Homeowners Association and that their concern was the R-3 rezoning district and whether the units would be rental units. Chairman Plufka responded that there is no developer currently interested in the site and that the question would have to wait until a developer was interested in the site. He stated that property owners within 500 feet of the develot.,ment would be notified of a Public Hearing once an application was received. Mr. Ruhest iin asked what the hours of the Wholesale Club would be; what the truck loading hours would be, and whether truck traffic would use Nathan Lane and County Road 10. Mr. Harden stated that hours for the Wholesale Club would be Monday, Wednesday and Fridays from Noon to 8:00 or 8-30 p.m.; Tuesdays and Thursdays from 10:00 a.m. to 8:30 p -m.' Saturdays f-om 11:00 a.m. to 8,00 p.m, and Sundays from boon to 6:0.1 p.m. He stated that truck loading hours would be fro.l 6:00 a.m. to Noon. Coordinator Oillerudstated that truck traffic would most likely use, Nathan Lane and County Road 10 since they are the thoroughfare streets in the area. Chairman-Plufka closed the Public Hearing. MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Zylla MOTION TO APPROVE to recommend vipproval of the Preliminary Plat, Amended General Development Plan, and Rezoning for "Bass Lake Business Plaza" 5th Addition" located at the northeast corner of Nath,n Lane and 56th Avenue North, subject to the conditions listed in the October 12, 1990 Staff Report.. Roll "all Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Zylla MOTION TO APPROVE to recommend approval of the Final Plat and Setting Conditions to be Mat Prior to Filing for the Wholesale Club. Ro-11 Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Coordinator Dillerud asked the Commissioners to cc item 13 of the 5.B. Staff Report changing the numb offstreet parking spaces to 671. Commissioner Marofsky stated that he Would like to see the overhead garage doors moved on the site plan so they do not face the collector street. Planning Commission Minutes October 24, 1990 Page 190 Commission Pierce statedhe agreed with Commissioner Marofsky. Chairman Plufka stated that he did not like th( ;.resign of the west side of the building and parking area. MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Marofsky to recommend approval of the Site Plan, Proof -of Parking Plan and Zoning Ordinance Variance for Greenwalt Development, Inc for "Dass Lake Plaza 5th Addition's located at the northeast corner of Nathan Land and 55th Avenue North subject to the 14 conditions listed in the October 12, 1990 Staff Report, Commissioner Marofs!,y stated that he found it difficult to distinguish between the reg.ulatlins for parking in the different retail zones. MOTION to amend by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner~ Pierce to recommend that the exterior of the structure contain 35 percent brick in the design rather than 50 percent recommended by staff.. Commissioner Marofsky silted that he would like the petitioner to come back to the Planning Commission with a redesign of the building. Commissioner Stulberg stated that if the Site Plan was recommended for deferral that the Commission be specific as to which items they would like addressed.. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes MOTION to amend carried. M0f1ON to amend by Commissioner Marofsky to require that the outside mechanical equipment area be enclosed.. in brick. There was no second to the motion,- the motion died. MOTION to amend' by Commissioner Pierce, seconded by Commissioner Marofsky to require that the mechanical equipment area be enclosed with materials compatible with the design of the building. Mr. Harden stated that the mechanical equipment area could not be enclosed in all brick because the compressor needs to have access to air. Roll Cal' Vote. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Stulberg, Nay. MOTION carried on a 4-1 vote.. Commissioner Zylla stated that he did not feel hardship 0 was proven regarding the proof -of -parking issue. MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO AMEND MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND MOTION TO AMEND VOTE .. MOTION CARRIED. Planning Commission Minutes October 24, 1990 Page 191 Commissioner Marofsky stated that he felt the petitioner did prove the hardship issue for proof -of -parking with the response that many trees and vegetation would be destroyed 0. the full number of parking spaces were required. MOTION by Coimaissioner Marofsky, seconded by Chairman MOTION TO DEFER Plufka to defer the Site Plan,, Proof -of Parking, and Zoning Ordinance Variance to the next Planning Commission meeting for redesign of the site that faces Nathan Lane. Commissioner Pierce stated that screening the site from Nathan Lane was a possibility. Commissioner Marofsky stated that a loading dock area is not a pleasing site to look at from a collector street. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. Chairman Plufka called a 5 minute recess at 8:45 pm. Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting at 8:50 p.m. Chairman Plufka intrejuced the request of John McKee for a Lot Division/Lot Consolidation and Subdivision Ordinance Variance for property located at 1345 Juneau Lane. Chairman Plufka waived the review of the October 16, 1990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Sherman Goldberg representing the pet4tioner. Mr. Goldberg stated that he had no comments and was in agreement with the October 16, 1990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one present to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED JOHN MCKEE (90090) MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Marofsky to recommend approval of the petition by John McKee for a Lot Division/Lot Consolijation and Subdivision Ordinance Variance for property located at 1345 Juneau Lane. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously. VOTE - MOTION CARPIED Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Amoco Oil AMOCO OIL COMPANY Company for an Amended MPUD Preliminary Plan, MPUD (90091) Conditional Use Permit and MPUD Final Site Plan for Service Station/Convenience Store/Car Wash located at the so!jthweS4 corner of Plymouth Boulevard and Rockford Road. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the October 15, 1990 Staff Report. Planning Commission. Minutes October 24, 1990 Page 192 Marofsky asked how the common drivewayCommissioner between the adjoining property was handled. Coordinator Dillerud stated that this was done with cross - easements. City Engineer Faulkner stated that the easements were already in place. Chairman "Plufka asked if the car wash would be open all year. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the car wash would be open all year and that mechanical driers would be used. he said that the Commission could make the r.icha Tical drying mandatory if they included it in the resolution. City Engineer Faulkner stated that there are storm serer catch basins in place also to catch the excess water before the cars exit from the site. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Joe Finley representing the petitioner. Mr. Finley stated that he was in agreement with the October 15, 1:990 Staff Report but he wanted to work with staff on the Landscape plan for screening and berming and IMP be allowed some flexibility as to how this would be accomplished. He said that he would agree to the mandatory requirement for drivers. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Plufka introduced Ms.. Darlene Andreachi of 3850 Plymouth Blvd. Ms. Andreachi stated that she was against this development be, -dose there were already too many service stations close to the site. She felt it wou.d be detrimental to her property value. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Stuart Nolan of 2177 Youngman Avenue, St. Paul, who is the owner of the apartment complex to the east. Mr. Bolan stated that he would like to see the landscaping and berming of the Site done so that it was the type that would screen the site year round. He asked if the station would be open 24 hours day. Mr. Finley stated that the station would be open 24 sours a day.. Planning Commission Minutos October 24, 1990 Page 193 AI A Mr. Nolan stated that he did not feel the signage was IV appropriate for this site because it would be visible from the apartment across the boulevard. He stated that he was limited from using lighted signage, for his site. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the signage proposed was consistent with the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Finley stated that the signage plan and lighting for this site was 60 percent of what the code allowed. Chairman Plufka closed. the Public Hearing. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Zylta to recommend approval of the request by Amoco Oil Company for ar Amended !APUD Preliminary Plan, MPUD Conditional Use Permit and MPUD Final Site Plan for Service Station/Convenience Store/rar Wash located at the southwest corner of Plymouth Boulevard and Rockford Road. MOTION to amend by Commissioner Stulberg to delete the MOTION TO AMEND second paragraph of condition 10. MOTION died for lack of a second. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND J& MOTION to amend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by MOTION TO AMEND VY Chairman Plufka to add the following language at the beginning of the second paragraph of condition 10 stating that "One alternative could be..." Coordinator Dillerud questioned the Commission asking if their intent was that the screening eliminate the view of the commercial use on the site and the vehicle movement of headlights; and whether this decision would be per staff judgment. Commissioner Stulberg stated that that was the intent of the Commission regarding the screening. Commissioner Marofsky stated that the language could be amended stating that "berming could apply." Chairman Plufka stated that the amendment does nog incorporate berming and that language stating that the maximum use of conifers and berming that will elimi.,,ate headlight glare at 90 percent opacity should be added. Roll fall Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Chairman MOTION TO AMEND Plufka to -'ecommend requirement of a drying facility for 46 the car wash and proper elimination of all water on the site. Roll Call Vote. 5',yes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED. 0 Plinning Con, iissior, Minutes October 24, 1990 Page 194 Chair -man Plufka stated that he felt a 35 foot lighted sign at this site was unnecessary and asked Mr. Finley if Amoco could live with a 20 foot sign., Mr. Finley stat) that Amoco had a 21 foot sign and that would be agreeable to him. MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by wamissioner to reduce the signage height from 35 feet to 21 feet. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. Roll Call 'Vote on Main Motion as thrice amended. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Pierce, Ray. MOTION carried on a 4-1 vote. Chair,ian Plufka continued the Public Hearing for item 5.E., the Amendments to the Zoning Ordinance, Chairman Plufka introduced the reqjicst for Terry and Kathleen LeDell for a Lot Division/Lot Consolidation and Subdivision Ordinance Variances located at the northeast corner of Sunset Trail and Pineview Lane. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the October 15, 1990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Terry LeDell of 3106 Manor Drive, Golden Valley. Mr. LeDel I stated that the hardship for another configuration of the lot division/consolidation was that the owners of parcel D were not willing to sell any additional land to the petitioner to increase 'tot size. MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED VOTE - MOTION CARRIED TERRY & KATHLEEN LEDELL 90094) MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Pierce to recommend approval of the October 15, 1990 Staff Report approving the Lot Division/Lot Consolidation and Subdivision Ordinance Variances located at the northeast corner o4 Sunset Trail and Pineview Lane. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. Chairman Plufka reviewed the progress of the Wetlands Task Force for the Commission. Chairman Plufka recommended that the workshop scheduled I or December 7, 1990, sponsored by the Government Training Service on "The Planned Unit Development (PUD) Approach to Lan,; Development" be attended by the Planning C,=mis:ioners as a group. He requested that this item be Placed r -.n tle agenda for discussion at the November 14, 1990 meeting. Meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m. VOTE - MOTiON CARRIED