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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COVaMISSION MINUTES,
JULY 25, 1990
The Regular Meeting of the City of Pliiouth Plaming
txirAiission was called to order at 7.100 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT -4 Coiw,iissioners John Wire: Dennis Zylla
ar,'4ed at 7.-3G p.m.)Joy Tiertaev,
Marofsky, and Acting k'hairman
Micnael Stulberg.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Comdssioaer Hal Picrce and thaimaN
Richard Plufka.
STAFF PRESENT, Coordinator Charles Dillerud, City
Engineer Dan Faulkner, and Sr,,
Clerk/Typist Denise Lanth4er.
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MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney, to approve the Minutes for the July 11, 1990,
Planning Commission Meeting, subject to the following
change:
On Page 111, paragraph 7, the first sentence should be
changed to state, "Commissioner Tierney stated she
initially did not like the concept of a fast ftad
restaurant at this location."
Vote. 3 Ayes. Commissioner hire abstained. MOTION VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
carried.
MOTION by Chairman Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Marofsky, to amend the Minutes for the June 19, 1990,
Planning Commission Meeting to include reference to a
letter from Jerry Theis of Dundee Nursery in the Public
nearing Minutes and made a formal part of the Minutes.
Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Vern Reynolds VERN REYNOLDS
Construction for a Preliminary Plat and rezoning fiom FRD CONSTRUCTION (90050)
Aft to R-2 for "Bass Lake Terrace" located at the northeast
W quadrant of the Soo Line Track-, and Northwest Boulevard.
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July 25, 1990
Page 121
0 Commissioner Marofs y excused himself frot the table=
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview olf the duly 19,
1990,staff report
City Engineer Faulkner noted that the word "paved" should.
be inserted after the ward "temporary" in Condition 10 of
the approving resolution.
Commissioner Tierney asked staff what the length is of the
cul-de-sac on 54th Avenue North.
Coord*nator Dillerud responded that it is approximately
500 feet
Chairman Stulberg introduced :tike Gair, representing the
pet i ti oyer.
Mr. Oair stated that they would like to begin phasing with
the north end of the property immediately; He stared that
the entire site will be graded at once, but that they will
plat only the north end because the utilities are readily
available on that portion of the site. Mr. Lair added
that the remaining property would, be one large outlot
instead of manv small outlots. Mr. flair also stated that
they will provide a tamporary drive access through the
site from lest Medicine Lake Drive..
Chairman Stul'berg opened: the Public. Hearing. There was no
one present to speak €n the issue.
Chairman Stulberg closed the Public Nearing-.
MOTION by CoRnissioner Tierney, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Wire, to recommend approval of the request by Vern
Reynolds Construction for a f°rel minary Plan and reznnin?
for "Bass Lake Terrace's located at the northwest quadrant
of the Soo Line Tracks and northwest Boulevard, subject to
the conditions set forth by staff in their July 19, 1990,
staff report, but. amending Condition 10 by adding the word
kpaved" after ,he word "temporary" in the approving
resolution,
Poll Call Vote. 3 eyes.: MOTION-arriee. VOTE - MOIION CARRIES}
Chairman Stulberc requested the minutes reflect a request
by the Planning Ccimission to the City Co jncil to expedite
Metropolitan Council's decision on the Land Use Guide
Plan;,
Commissioner Marofsky took his position at the table..
Chairman Stulberq introduced the request by Ryan RYAN CONSTRUCTION
Construction Company for an amended. Mixed Planned Unit COMPANY (90052)
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July 25, 1990
Page 12
Development Preliminary Plan/Plat/Conditional Use Permit
and Final Site Plan/Plat for "Waterford Park Plaza 2nd
Addition' located at the northeast quadrant of 6th Avenue
North (Highway 55 North Service Drive) and Revere Lane.
The former "D , eVac" site).
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the July 20,
1990, staff report.
Commissioner Zylla arrived at 7t30 p.m.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Pat Ryan, representing the
petitioner.
Mr. Ryan stated that the lot for the "Arby's" site is of a
sufficient size for the use.. He stated he feels their
request conforms with the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Ayan
added that he does not feel Arby's should have to purchase
additional land for setback requirements. Mr. Ryan stated
they will agree to have a minimum 4 foot setback on the
other side which will result in 8 feet of greenery.
Commissioner Marofsky asked Mr. Ryan if the parking lot
adjacent in Lot 2 will be constructed at this time,
Mr. Ryan responded negatively.
Commissioner Marofsky asked Mr. Ryan if there is a
possibility that a use for Lot 2 might develop where the
office building might be located in such a way as it would
prevent combined parking lots with Lot 1.
Mr. Ryan responded negatively and stated that they have
private coverants in their Rainbow lease as to the
location of the office building.
Commissioner Marofsky asked Mr. Ryan if they would be
agreeatile to setting up a covenant that would state when
the office building is built on Lot 2, 15 feet can be used
of Lot I in the forn, of reversion back.
Mr. Ryan stated he woul-I be agreeable to that.
Commissioner Zylla iskea staff if they are interpreting a
20 -foot setback because the parking lot on Lot 2 does not
yet physica-l?y,exist.
Coordinator Dillerud responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Marofsky asked if the landscaping on the berm
exiting from Rainbow Foods obstructs view for traffic: from
the west and if the building obstructs view for traffic
from the east.
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July 25, 1990
Page 123
Greg Kopischke, representing the petitioner, responded
that the site triangle ratios mee+ all City requirements
and added that the berm will be adjusted when the road
alignment is completed.
Chairman Stulberg opened the Public Hearing. There was no
one present to speak on the issue.
Chairman Stulberg closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Conunissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner 'OTION TO APPROVE
Tierney, to recommend approval of the request by Ryan
Construction Company for an amended Mixed Planned Veit.
Development Preliminary Plan/Plat/Conditional Use Permit
for "Waterford Park Plaza" located at the northeast
quadrant of 6th Avenue North (Highway 55 North Service
Drive) and Revere Lane, subject to the conditions set
forth by staff in the July 20, 1990, staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes, MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Marofsky stated that his vote in favor of
this motion does not conflict with his previous, vote on
the Land Use Guide, Plan amendment.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded i Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Wire, to recommend approval of the request by Ryan
Construction Company for a Mixed Planned Unit Development
Final Site Plan for "Waterford Park Plaza 2nd Addition"
located at the northeast quadrant of 6th Avenue North
Highway 55 North Service Drive) and Revere Lane, subject
to the conditions set forth by staff i -i their July 20,
1990, staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes, MIOTION carried. VOTE - MOTIG PARRIED
Chairman Stulberg introduced the request by Joseph Strait JOSEPH STRAIT (90053)
for a Conditional Use Permit for a Home Occtipation to
operate a saw mill located at 16845 12th Avenue North.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the July 18,
1990, staff report.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Joseph Strait, the
petitioner.
Mr. Strait stated he was confused as to why he must apply
fot a Conditional Use Permit to continue his hobby of saw
milling on his property. He stated he oid not provide a
list of property owners to City staff because he telt the
90 fee li, submitted to make application would cover the
costs of everything. He was under the impression City
staff was to take care of everything.
Commis-ioner Tierney asked Mr. Strait if he is employed.
Mr. Strait responded he is retired.
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July 25, 1990
rage 124
Commissioner Tierney asked Mr. Strait if he makes any
money from his saw mill operation.
Mr. Strait responded that he, did not make much money from
his saw mill operation. He stated that it is more of a
hobby than an occupation. He added that most of his work
has been for his daughter.
Chairman St-ilberg opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Stulberg noted the Planning Commission's receipt
of a petition from the neighbors of Mr. Strait opposing
the proposed Conditional Use Permit for a Home Occupation
to operate a saw mill.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Sandra Vrooman of 16705 12th
Avenue North.
Ms. Vrooman stated that her property is located east of
Mr. Strait's property, and stated that she is not opposed,
of his saw mill operation. She stated that a majority of
her waighbors, are conducting a business in their home of
some sort, whether for profit or for hobby, and she cannot
understand why they are all opposing of Mr. Strait's
operations,. Ms. Vrooman asked if denial of a Conditional
Use Permit for a Home Occupation would. prevent Mr. Strait
from cutting wood for his own use, i.e., for heating his
home. Ms. Vrooman also stated she would be willing to
help Mr. Strait obtain a property owner's list from
Hennepin County if he wishes to pursue this.
Chairman Stulberg responded that Mr., Strait will be able
to saw for his own personal use as lon- as it does not
cause a nuisance.
Commissioner Tierney asked. Ms. Vrooman if she has ever
heard the saw.
Ms.. Vrooman stated that she has heard much machinery
noises from her other neighbors, but has not heard Mr..
Strait's saw.
Chairman Stulberg continued the Public Hearing until
another date when all property owners have been notified.
Mr. Strait stated that his biggest job was a while back
for Plymouth Village, cutting diseased Elms for retaining
walls. He was paid for that work.
Commissioner Tierney asked Mr. Strait if he owns a chain
saw.
Mr. Strait responded affirmatively.
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Page 125
Commissioner Tierney asked staff why a Conditional Use
Permit is necessary for Mr. Strait.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that Mr. Strait h 3
admitted to being paid from his operations. If he is
being paid, he must have a Conditional Use Permit per the
Zoning Ordinance.
Commissioner Marofsky asked staff if Mr. Strait operates
his saw for his own personal use and as a hobby, would
there be a need for a Conditional Use Permit.
Coordinator Dillerud responded negatively.
Commissioner Stulberg advised Mr. Strait that if he wants
to continue with his application for a Conditional Use
Permit, he must, by law, provide the City with a list of
property owners within 500 feet of his property.
Commissioner Stulberg introduced the request by Lowry Pill
Development Company for an amendment to the Sanitary Sewer
Element of the Comprehensive Plan to permit relocation of
a parcel of property from one Sewer District to another
located at the northeast corner of Holly Lane and County
Road 9.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the July 18,
1990, staff report.
Chairman Stulberg asked staff if the Metropolitan Waste
Control Commission would approve this amendment if the
City approves it.
City Engineer Faulkner responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Marofsky asked staff if this proposal is
different from the Northfork hookup.
City Engineer Faulkner responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Zylla risked staff when sewer would be
available to this site if their proposal is denied.
Coordinator Dilleruc responded it was not in the 1990-1994
Capital Improvements Program.
Commissioner Zylla asked staff who pays for the connection
to the sewer to tf, east in the future if this is
approved.
Coordinator Dillerud. responded the petitioner is
responsible for the cost.
LOWRY HILL DEVELOPMENT
COMPANY (50056)
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July 25, 1990
Page 126
Amb,
Commissioner marofsky a- ed staff whether any other
development boundaries in this sewer district had been
changed.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that there have been no
changes in sewer district boundaries in this area.
CAmmissioner Wire asked staff if the Lowry Hill site could
get sewer from the Medina Interceptor.
City Engineer Faulkner responded. that the Metropolitan
Waste Control Commission monitors and approves sewer
hookup to that pipe.
Commissioner Zylla asked staff if it is likely that there
will be more amendments in the future to move between
Sewer Districts.
City Engineer Faulkner responded tFat he does not foresee
much development to cause more amendments.
Coordinator Dillerud stated he feels approval of this
proposal would set precedent for land 411-19 Sewer District
that is adjacent to County Road 9.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Rick Sathre, representing the
petitioner.
Mr. Sathr- stated that there are 7 families who are co-
owners 0 this land and would like to develop the
property. He stated it was logical to switch Sewer
Districts, find there would be no cost to the City to
switch to easterly trunk line in the future. Mr. Sathre
added that the flow out of this site would be a small part
of the Metropolitan Waste Control Commission's sewer
capacity in the Medina. Interceptor.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Bernard Barr, one of the
petitioners .
Mr. Barr stated he is having business relation problems,
with Cityy staff. He expressed his frustration of fighting
with the City for so many years to get sewer a0 water
hookup.
Chairman Stulberg opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Karla Blevins of 16440 Old
Rockford Road.
Ms. Blevins asked where the sewer would hookup and how it
will effect her property.
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Page 127
Coordinator Dillerud showed her on the map the point of
hookup.
Ms. Uievins asked if she would be assessed for the hookup.
Mr. Sathre rasponded that the sewer would be built by
private money, and she would not be assessed.
Ms. Blevins -stated the City should bear in mind the tax
burdens to property owners who do not benefit fropi the
service.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Dorothy Krekelberg of 61E
Hemlock Lane North,
Ms. Krekelberg asked if the Arne and Northfork properties
had to amend the Comprehensive Plan in order to obtain
sewer to their site also.
Coordinator Dillerud responded negatively and stated that
it was because they were connected with t1,e City trunk
sewer system rather than a Metropolitan Waste Control
Commission pipe,
Mr. Sathre added that the Artie and Nforthfork properties
da did need to amend the Staged Growth Element of the
1W Comprehensive Plan.
Chairman Stulberg introduced Gary Schet-ber of Box 181,
Rogers.
Mr. Scherber expressed his concern that if this is
approved, all the other land owners to the west will
petition for the same thing, which will result in the
opening of the land to the west.
Chairman Stulber,,° closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Wire asked staff if this proposal would over
tax the capacity to the City's pipes.
Coordinator Dillerud stated it is ino
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re of a timing issue.
Commissioner Marofsky asked staff whether the future
proposed trunk sewer east of this parcel will serve the
Hollydale property also..
Coordinator Dillerud responded that it will serve up to
the MOSA line, and that Lowry Hill will not be the only
property to be serviced.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner
Wire, to recommend approval of the request by Lowry Hill
Development Company for an amendment to the -Sanitary Sewer
MOTION TO APPROVE
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July 25, 1990
Page 128
Elemeit of the Comprehensive Plan to permit relocation of
Parcel 17-12-0001 from Sewer District N01-17 to Sewer
District V-18 located at the northeast corner of Holly
Lane dnd County Road 9, subject to the conditions set
Barth by staff in thei- July 18, 1990, staff report, but
deleting Condition 3 of the approving resolution.
Mr. Sathre noted that the name "Lowry Hill Construction
ipany(( should be changed to "Lowry, Hill Development
Company" in the approving resolution.
Commissioner Zylla stated that he feels this is more of an
issue of staging, and that the City will see reasonable
plans -For development.
Conmiissioner Wire stated he feels the pipe capacity is
sufficient to service this site.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that be is in favor of this
proposal, and that it is not the job of the Plaoning
Commission to moniter competition. He stated that this
land is part of the 1,800 acres the City opened up with
the expansion of the MUSA line, and therefore the owners
should be 61y to develop their land.
Roll Ca'l' Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Chairman Stulberg stated the Public Hearings for
amendments to the Zoning Ordinance is continued until
August 8, 1990.
Chairman Stulberg adjourned the meeting at 9:30 pm,
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VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
ZONING ORDINANCE
AMENDMENTS