HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 07-11-19900 CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
JULY 11, 1990
The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning
Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners
Dennis Zylla, Joy Tierney, Larry
Marofsky,, and Michael Stulberg.
MEMBERS ABSENTZ, Commissioners Hal Pierce and John Wire.
STAFF PRESENT. Coordinator Charles Dillerud, City
Engineer ban Faulkner, and Planning
Secretary Jackie Watson.
Coordinator Dillerud introduced the Planning Cormitissioners
to the new Community 'evelopment Department Associate
Planner David Gurss.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that a correction in the June
26, 1990 minutes needed to bo made on Page 105, Firagraph
10 and 12,* change the MOTION TQ APPROVE to MOTION TO DENY
on the "side bar" related to Paragraph 10; and in
Paragraph 12, the Nay vote was by Commissioner Stulberg.
Comm,4's!,,A*oner Marofsky stated tlOt a correction in the June
26, 1g9Q minutes needed to be rade on Page 99, Paragraph
inse,tiog the word "not" in' the third line after "it
is
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, ;seconded by Commissioner
Marofsky to approve the 3une 26, '1,990 Planning Commission
minutes as corrected.
Vote. 5 Ayes. NOTION carried.
Chairman Plufta introduced the reque5_t of Bradley H. White
for an A%t:ndcd Conditional Use PerKit and Site rian, Lot
Division/Consol idai ion and Zoning 6,dinance Variance for
property located at 1271 and 1.273 Blkck Oaks Court,
Coordinatc- Dillerud reviewed the July 2, 1990 Staff
Report.
MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
BRADLEY H. WHITE
90040)
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July 11, 1990
Pate 110
Chainpan Plufka introduced Bradley '.Ihlte of 12400 Marion
Lane, Minnetonka,
Mr. White stated that he agreed with the conditions of the
July 2, Staff Report.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Merle Flaata of 1277 Black
Oaks Court.
Mr. Flaata stated that lie was Presideat of the Gleason
North Homeowner's Association and he was there to express
support for the petition.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Marofsky to reconiend approval for the request of Bradley
H. White for an Amended Conditional Use Permit and Site
Plant Lot Division/Consolidation and Zoniri Ordinance
Variance for property located at 1271 and 12--k Black Oaks
Court subject to all conditions listed in the July 2, 1O
Staff Report.
MOTION by Coinissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND46ZyllatoaddaconditiontotheResolutionSetting
Conditions to Met Prior to the Filing of the Lot
Division/Consolidation stating than. the approval is
subjE,,ct to the appropriate title transfer of the property
for Lots 13 and 14 from the Homeowner's Association, and
must be approved ky the City Attorney.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTIOR carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion as once amended. 5 Ayes. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Ryan RYAN CONSTRUCTION
Construction Company for a Land Use Guide Plan Amendment, COMPANY (90052)
Rezoning, Conditional Use Permit, MPUD Prel iminary
Plan/Plat, MPUD Final Plan!Plat for "Arbys" located at
101.30 State Higliviky 55.
Coordinator Dilleruct rev ieiiej the July 6, 1990 Staff
Report.
Chairman Plufka introduced 11r. Rill McHale representing
the petitioner.
Mr. McHale rev i eoiled the history of the proposed
49 development on this parcel, explaining that the previous
zoning was Industrial before Ryan Construction Company
received approval for, the reguiding to CS and CL.
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July 11, 1990
Page III
Mr. McHale stated that a new design for the projert had
been submitted to the City this afternoon. He, presented
the Commissioners with a petition signed by people working
in the area of the proposed Arb,.N,!s Restaurant who, desired
to have this type of structure rear by, and indicated
there was a need for a Class Z.1 restaurant. He also
showed the Commission a picture of the new Arbys building
design that they would be building on this site.
Chairman Plufka asked whether thE, earlier intent for an
80,000 square foot office building would continue if a
portion of the parcel is approved for reguiding to CS.
Mr. McHale stated that it is the intent of the petitioner
to scale down the size of the office structure to be
between 54,000 to 60,000 square feet if -the reguid`nq is
approved.
Chairman Plufk-a opened the Public Hearing. Thete was no
one present to speak on the issue, Chairman Plufia cloy -d
the Public Hearing.
Commissioner 7y1la, stated that he felt ttie Land Use Guide
Plan should be used strictly as 4 guide, and he felt the
plans for this parcel would be beneficial to the area,,
Commissioner Marofsky questioned whether the recent PUD
Plan for the Waterford Park site would. have been approved
if the size of the office structure was smaller and a
Class 11 restaurant had been part of the plan. He said
that he did not feel the fast food restaurant wa,
appropriate,, and he did not like the idea of changing an
approved plan "piecemeal".
Coiimiissioner Tierney stated she initially did not like the
concept of a fast food restaurant at this location but had
to admit that fast food restaurants are convenient. She
said that she thought it would take several years to fill
the originally proposed office building.
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Commissioner Zylla, stated that he felt Class IT
restaurants are becoming more the eat in type restaurants
with less carry out occurring. He stated that he felt the
design, of the Arbys building was architecturally
acceptable.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that he would be more
agreeable to the plan if the Arbys restaurant was built
within the office building structure with a drive in
window. He said he did not feel that CS guiding was
appropriate to the site.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky to deny the request by MOTION TO DENY
Ryan Construction Company for a Land Use Guide Plan
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July 11, 1990
page 112
Amendment to reguide the property located at 10130 State
Highway 55 from CL to CS.
MOTION died for " ack of asecond.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner
Zylla to recommend approval of the Land Use Guide Plan
Amendment to reclassify 1.2 acres from CL to CS for Ryan
Construction Company, subject to an added :ondition to the
July 6, 1990 Staff Report stating that the regUiding 'would
be contingent upon the approval of the PUD Plan/Plat
chanes proposed concurrently for the parcel. If the PUD
Plan Plat changes are not approved, the reguiding will be
not e valid.
Chairman Plufka stated that successful office parks today
are surrounded by restaurants, fast food places, retail,
etc.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Marofsky, Nay.
MOTION carried on a 4-1 vote.
Mr. McHale reviewed some of the changes in the Preliminary
Plan for this site stating that he felt the plan complied
with the Zoning Ordinance with regard to buffering
requirements and setbacks. He stated that the revised
plan would alter the location of Arbys on the site and
this was done because of the proposedchange to a 6th
Avenue North roadway entrance into the site,
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner
Maraisky to continue discussion of the MPOO Preliminary
Plan/Plat, Conditional Use Pe ;i t, and MPUD Final
Plan/Plat for kyan Construction Company for "Arbys' until
the July 25, 1990 Planning Commission meeting so that
staff would have time to review the revised plans.
Chairman Plufka reopened the Public Hearing and continued
it until, the July 25, 1990 meeting.
loll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION rarried.
Chairman Plufka called recess at. 8:17 poli.
Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting at 8:27 p.m.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK Cr
A SECOND
MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO CONTINUE
VOTE - MOTION CIAXh ED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of CSM Corporation CSM CORPORATION (90054)
for an Amended RPUD Preliminary Plan, Conditional Use
Permit and Final Site Plan to build a tennis court in
Bass Lake Hills" located at the southeast quadrant of
County Road 47 and 1-494.
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July 11, 1990
Page 113
Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the July 3, 1990 Staff
Report,
Chairman Plit-fka introduced Mr. Charles Schatz representing
the petitioner.
Mr. Schatz stated that he was in agreement with the July
3, 1990 Staff Report.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no
One present to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed
the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner
T;erney to recommend approval of the request by CSM
Corporation for an Amended RPUD Preliminary Plan, t
Conditional Use Permit and Final Site Plan to build a
tennis court in "Bass Lake Hills" located at the southeast
quadrant of County Road 47 and 1-494.,
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Chairman Niufka introduced the request of the City of
Plymouth for a,Land Use Guide Plan Amendment to reclassify
approximately twenty acres from existing CL (Limited
Business) to til -1 (Low Density Residential) located north
of State Highway 55 and east of the 41st Avenue North cul-
de-sac at approximately Kimberly Lane (extended).
Coordinator Dillerud i-eviewed the Staff Report e.' July 3,
1990.
C-ommiss'oner Marofs',y asked were the access to theI
southern area aloe; Highway 55 would be oriented.
Coordinatc, Dillerud stated that access to this parcel
would have to be from the East, and it was not accessible
to Highway 55.
Citiaiman Plufka opened the Public Hearing,
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Mervin Swigart of 3324
Aquila Avenue South,
Mr. Swigart stated that he owned Lthe parcel of land at the
southerly end, and he wanted to see that parcel remain
guided as CL.
Commissioner Narofsky asked Mr Swigart if he would be
agreeable if his parcel were guided as CS.
40 Mr. Swigart said he was agreeable to CS guiding also for
his parcel (-f land.
Chairman PlLfka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION TO APPROVE
OTE - MOTION CARRIED
LAND USE GUIDE PLAN
AMENDMENT
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July 11, 1990
Page 114
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION it APPROVE
Tierney to recommend approval for the City of Plymouth to
reclassify the southern part of the school site to LA -1,
and to reclassify the parcels of land south of the school
site to CS.
Cemmissioner Stulberg questioned the reasons for reguiding
tEe southern part of the school site. He said that this
area may never be developed and could be reguided later if
there were development pikans for the site.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that the reason for the
reguiding was, because a school cannot be built on land
that is guided as commercial property.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Stulberg, Nay. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTTO carried ou a 4-1 vote.
Chai nm -mi Plufka continued 0 e Public Hearing for
Amendments to the Zonlag Ordinance from the June 26, 1990
meeting until the next Planning Commission meeting of July
25, 1990.
Chairman Plufka intt oduced the request of Richard RICHARD CHOUINARD
Chouinard for a Lot Division and. Zoning Ordinance (90048)
Variances for property within Medicine Lake Park 3rd
Addition located at 2120 Lancaster Lane North.
Chairman Plufka, waived the review of the July 5, 1.990
Staff Report,
Chairman Pluf"Ka Introduced Mr. Richard Chouinard of 2120
Lancaster Lane.
Mr. Chouinard stated that he was in agreement with the
July 5, 1990 Staff Report.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Zylla to recommend approval of the petition by Richard
Chouinard for a Lot Division and Zoning Ordinance
Variances for property within Medicine Lake Park 3rd
Addition located at 2120 Lancaster Lane North subject to
all conditions in the July 5, 1990 Staff Report..
Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously, VOTE - MOTION. CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Joanne Schuler JOANNE SCHULER (90055)
for a Lot Division and Zoiting Variances for pi--perty
located at the southeast corner of Vicksburg ane and 36th
Avenue North.
Chairman Plufka waived the review of the July 5, 1.990
Staff Report.
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July 11, 1990
Page 115
Chairman Plufka introduced Ms. Joanne Schuler of 2355
North Hemlock.
Ms. Schuler stated that she was in agreement with the July
5, 1990 Stal`f Report.
MOTION by Comtaissioner Stulberg, seconded. by Commissioner
Tierney to recommend approval of the request. by Joanne
Schuler for a Lot D,*vision and Zoning Variances for
property located at the southeast corner of Vicksburg Lane
and 36th Ayenue North subject to all conditions listed in
the July 5, 1990 Staff Report.
Vote, 5 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Super Valu
Stores, Inc., for a MPUD Final Site Plan to construct a
67,600 souare foot "Cub Foods" and attached "future"
retail areas of 12,600 square feet and 24,300 square feet
on Lot 1, !.`lock 3, Plymouth Hills Addition located at the
southeast cirner of Vicksburg Lane and 36th Avenue North.
Coordinator Dillerud presented an overview of the Jvly 5,
1990 Staff Report.
Commissioner Zylla asked staff if a right turn lane wasisrequiredtobeconstructedalongVicksburgLane
immediately.
City Engineer Faulkner responded that the right turn lane
would be constructed concurrent with the construction of
this project.
Chairman Plufka introduced Rick Sathre of Sathre-
Bergquist, representing Super Value Stores, Inc.
Mr. Sathre indicated that he had reviewed the Staff Report
and was familiar with the issues that were raised by staff
that may require amendment to the PUD Plan. He noted that
this Planned Unit Development was approved 12 years
previously, and certain features of the PUD, such as the
sidewalk plan, may no, longer be valid.
With particular reference to sidewalks Mr. Sathre noted
that the end use of the easterly portion of Lot I had not
as yet been determined. There may be a need to create
additional curb cuts to Plymouth Road which would require
alterations to any sidewalk that would be installL-d at
this time. He stated that Super Valu Stores, Inc. did not
object to the ultimate construction of sidewalks along
rlymouth Boulevard but desired to wait until such tome as
there was either an end use for the easterly part of the
site, or until sidewalks were constructed north and south
of this site along Plymouth Boulevard. Mr. Sathre stated
MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
SUPER VALU STORES, INC.
90057)
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July 11, 19901
Page 115
FF that Super Valu did not believe there was a need for
sidewalk along 35th Avenue North.
Mr. Sathre stated that Super Valu believed the combination
of topographic relief on the site to the east and the
building design effectively screened the trash compactors.
He noted that the trash compactors proposed were self-
contained units that attached directly to the buiidings.
No trash would be outside of the building in storage or in
transit.
Mr. Sathre stated that Super Valu was agreeable to the
concept of painting the rooftop :nits in a manner
suggested by staff.
Mr. Sathre stated: that Super Valu felt the issue of
signage to be critical to this project. He noted that the
wall signs proposed for the north and south ends of the
building would be lowered to comply with the definition of
a wall sign of the Plymouth Zoning Ordinance, but that the
sign proposed for the west side of the building is
required to be of the size and design now proposed. He
stated that if it was necessary for Super Valu to request
an amendment to the PUD Plan to construct the west wall
sign they planned on taking that approach.
He noted also that the park=ing shown on the Site Plan. was
well; in excess of Ordinance requirements, and that it was
their intention to, at this time, only construct as much
of the space as needed to meet Ordinance requirements, and
to sod the balance of the area.. He noted that he had not
advised staff of this intention previous to this meeting.
Commissioner xylla asked Mr. Sathre if in his professional
opinion a right turn lane of the length now proposed for
Vicksburg lane was necessary.
Mr. Sathre responded that he had not studied the
requirement carefully but that the existence of a slight
hill at the approach to 36th Avenue North was a safety
concern, and he believed that the right turn lane of the
length proposed was appropriate.
Chairman Plufka observed that
proposed effectively "turned
Soul'-e+ard, and disassociates
North He stated that he
orientation away from the core
toward Vicksburg Lane could be
Plymouth" concept.
Mr. Sathre stated that a meed
and to create a parking lot of
contributed to the decision to
the Site Plan orientation
its back" on Plymouth
itself from 35th Avenue
was concerned with an
of "Downtown Plymouth and
damaging to the "Downtown
to preserve on site trees
greater depth than width
orient the building west
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July 11, 1990
Page 117
rather than north, as the Downtown Plymouth plan would
suggest.
Commissioner Marofsky observed that only 12 trees were
shown on the plan as being saved on the east part of the
site.
Mr. Sathre noted that there were additional trees, that
would be saved that were not of -.*.,he size that was required
to be specified on their plans.
Chairman Plufka introduced Ms. Pat Moen reptesenting Super
Valu.
11s. Moen noted that the orientation of -%.-he retail facility
on Lot 1, Block 3 may be more of an historic circumstance
thatt current reality. She noted that it was the intention
of Super Valu to interest Hennepin County in placing a
library on the easterly portion of the site and that there
was no better way to orient the store on the site to make
the parking arrangement required for such a store function
properly.
Chairman Plufka introduced Bob Guth, 2925 Holly Lane,
Mr. Guth indicated that he owns the struc,1,;ure that exists
on 35th Avenue North in which the liquor store is located,
as well as other retailers. He stated that he was in
support of the plan proposed and that he was most anxious
for the plan to be executed as early as possible. He
noted that the existing and planned retail activity for
Downtown Plymouth" is almost all located south of the
proposed Cub Foods site. On that basis he observed that
the best orientation would be southerly, e. -A that a good
compromise is the westerly orientation that is proposed.
Chairman Plufka introduced Ken Streeter, 13100 35th Avenue
North.
Mr. Streeter indicated his concurrence with the plan that
was proposed and his interest it an early approval and
stare for construction. He stated his concern wi"Lh the
delay that may be associated with a need to amend the PUD
Plan to accommodate the design mat-.ers that have
previously discussed. Ae .,jpqested the Commission develop
a creative approach to acc=,iiodating tho needs of Super
Valu in this regarc.
tommissioner Marofsky Gbserved that it could be difficult
to reconfigure this site with a bettor orientation but
that the site needs better access to 3yth Avenue North.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner.
Stulberg to approve tte MPUD Final Sate Plan for Super
MOTION TCS ,APPROVE
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Valu on Lot 1, Block 3, Plymouth Hills subject to the 1.4
conditions noted in the July 5, 1990 Staff Report.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Chairman
Plufka to add a condition to amend the Site 21 an to
require a cess directly from the parking 'lot to the 35th
Avenue -North cul-de-sac.
City Engineer Faulkner stated that the City's Traffic
Engineer has recommended against direct access from the
35th Avenue North cul-de-sac to the parking lot to avoid
bass through traffic and to avoid confusion of multiple
a -.cess points.
Commissioner Stulberg noted that the change advocated by
the Motion to Amend would create a traffic hazard and he
therefore did not support the motion.
Roll, Call Vote. 2 Ayes, Commissioners Tierney, Zylla and
Siuberg, Nay. Motion to Amend failed,
VOTE. 5 Ayes. Main Motion carried.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Chairman
Plufka that it be the consensus of the Planning Commission
that should an application be made for amendment to the
PUD Plan by the petitioner a measure of flexibility from
the dimensional standards of the Zoning ordinance would be
considered with respect to issues involving screening of
trash facilities, design of wall signs, and
location/timing of sidewalk facilities witli respect to the
PUB Plan for the "Plymouth Hills", and the related MPUD
Site Plan for "Cub Foods"..
VOTE. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Chairman introduces the topic of Reconsideration of Zoning
Ordinance Amendment for Freestanding Identification Signs
in Business Zones.
Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the Draft Zoning Ordinance
Amendment responsive to direction given by the Planning
Commission at its May 9, 1990 meeting.
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION FAILED
vOTE - M610 CARRIED
MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
ZONING ORDINANCE AMEWD-
MENT FOR FREESTANDIiG
IDENTIFICATION SIGNS
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commission Tierney MOTION. TO APPROVE
to, schedule a Public Hearing 'for the Zoning Ordinance
Amendment regarding Freestanding Identification Signs in
Business Zones, adding a new paragraph to Section 10,
Subdivision A, which would be Paragraph 3.b.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Tierney to amend the Draft Zoning Ordinance Amendment
changing the word "adjoining" to "abutting" in. line 3, and
adding the words "Conditional Use" at the end of the word
permitted"" in line 5.
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July 11, 1990
Page 119
Commissioner Marofsky statad that adding the words
Conditional Use" in line 5 would require a petitioner to
submit an application for Conditional Use Permit which
would include a sign plan., This, qould require review by
the Planning Commission and approval by the City Council.
Vote., 5 Ayes. MOTION to amend carried unanimously.
Vote on Main Motion. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission discussed a joint meeting with the
Task Force for Outside Storage, Display and Sales. The
Commission agreed to meet on August 8, 1990 at 5,.00 p.m.
for a joint supper meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
0
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
VOTE - MOTION 'CARRIED.
SCHEDULE JOINT MEETIXG
WITH TASK FORCE FCR
OUTSIDE STORAGE, DIS-
PLAY AND SALES