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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-26-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING C%f4ISSIOX MINUTES JUNE 26, 1990 The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Richard Plufka, Coininissioners John Wire, Dennis Zvlla, Joy Tiez%iey, Larry Marofsky, and Michael Stulberg. MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Hal Pierce, STAFF PRESENT: Coordinator Charles Dillerud, city Engineer Dan Faulkriei . and Sr. Clerk/Typist Denise Larthier. ItUTE MOTIOR by Co=..issioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner Wire. MOTION TO APPROVE to approve the Minutes for the June B, 199U, Planning Amok mmission Meeting. W Vote. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Marofsky abstained for those VOTE - MOTION CARRIED items discussed' without his presence. M021710N carried. Chairi,nan Plufka introduced the request by Geoffrey Gage for GEOFFREY GAGE (90047) a Conditional Use Permit amendment to the Residential Planned Unit Devel.9pment for Kingsview Heights 2nd Addition located at the southeast quadrant o Avenue; Nnrth and Ithaca Lane (west of 14515 44th Avenve Nort',) . Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the June 19,, 1990, staff report. Chairman Plufka introduced John Nagel, representing the petitioner.. Mr. Nagel, stated he was in agreement with the Juni, 1990, staff report. Commissioner Tierney asked M-. Nagel what material the proposed fence is to be made of. Mr. Nagel responded that the fence will be built with cedar. gairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Plufka introduced Dave Dahl of 4255 Kingsview Lane North. Planning colmuission Minutes June 26, 1990 Page 97 Dahl expressed concern that the property notice he Ueived stated t;"e fence was to be built as a "chain link" Fence, He stated the Homeowner's Association has guidelines for not allowing the architectural structure of chain link fencing. Mr. Dahl stated he has no objections of a cedar fence being: built as proposed, Chairman Plufka introduced: Craig Miller of 14530 43rd Place North. Mr. Miller also expressed concern of a chain: link fence, but stated: he has no objections to a cedar fence-, Chairman Rlufka introduced Barry Wightman of 14520 43rd Place North, Mr. Wightman stated he has no objections to a cedar fence,. but he did have concerns about fencing in a heavily wooded lot. He noted that he was also to voice an opinior for his neighbor, T. W. Johnson, who was unable to attend the Public Hearing. Mr. Wightman stated that Mr,. Johnson submitted a letter to the Planning Commission voicing his objections toward a chain link fence. Mr. Wightman stated that Mr. Johnson would €lave no objections to a cedar fence. Weeiptissioner Stulberg noted the Planning Commission"s of a letter by T.W. Johnson of 14510 43rd Place Horth, Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing MOTIC1 by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Tierney, to recommend approval of the request Ly Geoffrey Gage for a Conditional Use Permit amendment to the Residential Planned Unit Development for Kingsview Heights. 2nd Addition to build a cedar fence located: at the southeast quadrant of 44th Avenue Borth and Ithaca Lane (-vest of 14515 44th Avenue North), subject to the condi,+ions of the June 19, 1990, s=taff report. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. ;jTION carried, Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Sit. Marg of the Lake Church for a Conditional Use Permit amendment to change the operator of the e4isting dray care center at St. Mary of the Lake Church located at 105 Forestview Lane. Chairman Plufka waived an overview of the June 21, 1990" staff report.. i airma" Plufka introduced Dale Pederson, representing the tit. oner. MOTION TO APPROVE VOTE - MOTION CARRIER ST. MARY OF THE LAKE CHURCH (90049) Planning Commission Mirutes June 26 , 199` Page 98 WPederson stated he was in agreement with the June 21, iO, staff repoiz. Mr. Pederson noted that the nasi* of the proposed day care was misspelled is the approving resolution, and asked the Planning Commission to change the misspelied name from "St. Ma- ofof the Lake Church'* to 'St. Mari of the Lake Church." Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearirj. There was no one present to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. MOTION by Counissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Wire, to recommend approval of the request by St. Mary of the Lake Church for a Conditional Use Permit amendment to change the operator of the existing day care center at St. Mary of the Lake Church located at 105 Forestview Lane trom Childress Learning Center" to "St., Mary of the Lake Church", amending the approving resolution by changing the misspelled name of St. Mary of the Lake Church. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried., MOT'1ON -W APPROVE VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Hans Hagen TANS HAGEN HOMES/WESTAR- Ho,-%esjestar-Rome Partners for an MPUD Concept Plan, ROME PARTNhRS (90029) 01 6 Permit and Rezoning , iminary Plan/plat/Conditional Us, m wr property located at the southwest and southeast quadrants of Medina Road and County Road 24. Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the June 21, 1990, staff report. Commissioner Stulberg abstained from discussici of this item. Coniissioner Marofsky asked staff what the City's recommendations are for the realignment of Holly Lane and Jewel Lane. City Engineer FauRner responded that they are recommending a cul-de-sac at the south ends of those streets, but provide an access for emergency purposes. Commissioner Lylla asked staff if there were any Site Plans for the commercial site. Coordinator Dillerud responded that what is now being proposed is the Concept Plan and Preliminary Plan, not a Final Site Plan. mmissioner Zylla asked staff how this plan compares to the eviously approved plan. Coordinator Dillerud responded that it is very similar. Planning Commission, Minutes dune 26, 1990 Page gg Muni ss inner Zyl l a asked staff if Cutl of t west of fir. hl`s property requires a new access to County Road 24. Cite Engineer Faulkner stated that he would revicd the specific situation Commissioner Zylla expressed concern that it is very costly to guild a single -loaded street,. He asked staff if there were any other alternatives. Coordinator Cillerud res,)ondedthat the Development Review Cortnit.tee felt that this was tate best alternative. He added that the street prop sed preserves the wictlands and that the developer is responsible for the costs. Commissioner Marofsky asked staff if the extension of Carlgnd Lane into the commercial site was a request of staff, Coordinator Dillerud responded that tte City does not recommend direct private access into the Lommercial site. Chairman Plufka introduced dike Lair of McCombs, Frank, Roos and Assoc., representing the petitioner. F Cair gave a slide presentation of their proposal. He fphasized that they are preserving most of the wetlands.: He stated that the best solution to serve the res*dents is by providing access to their homes by building a singles loaded street (Holly Lane). He added that the commercial site will have a convenience store, gas: station and restaurants. Commissioner Marofsky asked qtr. Car if Oudot A and H are speculative as to what types of uses will be developed. Mr. Cair responded affirtttatively. Con issionep Marofsky stated, and Mr. Cair concurred, that it is not necessary at this time to figure in/out access to the commercial site. Commissioner Zylla asked' fir. Cair if the4.- filan to provide access to the one home directly cuff County Road 24 after the realignment of that road. Mr. Lair responded that they would look into that. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Wearing. haivman Plufka introduced dean Grtqq of 3180 Queensland ne North. NIM Planning Comaission Minutes June 26, 1990 Page 100 Grigg- stated that he has been a resident of Plymouth for 4Years an,4 he cherishes the woodlands and wetlands the CIt7Y has. he stated he feels the wildlife in Plymouth is bei"g destroy -d by 81 the development that occurs. He expressed a concern that there will be new taxes assessed because of the proposed development. Mr. Grigo. stated that fie does not think there are enough Deople to 6uy the hcymes and expressed his objections, to the proposed plan. Chairman Plufka introduced Michael Halbach of 3189, Kimberly Lane North., Mr. Halbach asked what types of homes are proposed to be developed. Mr, fair responded that they will be large i-,omes with an estimated value of up to one half million doilars. Chairman Plufka introduced Steve Jacobitz of 3520 Urbandale Lane North, Mr. Jacobitz stated he was in opposition of the proposed plan. Chairman Plufka int,,roduced Wayne Menge of 3190 Kimberly Lane Trth Mr. Menge stated that he was in support of the proposed development and stated that it loo nice, but is concerned about the interface of Mr. Hagen's property to Mr. Scherber's property to the west. He added that he would like to see an evor or underpass built to ease the traffic flows on County Road M Chairman Plufrka introduced Arvin Olson of 17310 32nd Avenue North, Mr. Olson stated that his property is located , the cul-de- sac of 32nd Avenue North not 31st Avenue North as the City map shows. He stated that the pond in the back of his property provides very good natural drainage, and he expressed a desire to keep the pond as it is. Chairman Plufka closed the Public 'tearing,. Commissioner Marofsky asked Mr. Gair if Outlot E is intended for public amenity. Mr. Lair stated that 2/10 of an acre is intended for public amenity and added that access favors the south side. 1 pHagen stated that Outlot F will be deeded to the1roertyownertothesouthunlesstheCitywantsit. Planning Commission Minutes Oune 25, 1:990 Page 101 ASMTION by Commissioner giro, seconded by Comrmisttioner rofsky, to recommend approval of the request by Hans Ngen Homes/Westar-Rome Partners for an MPUD Concept Plan fcr property located at the southwest and southeast quadrants of Medina Road and County Road 24, consistent with conditions of the June 21, 1990, staff report. MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Wire, to amend the male motion by adding a condition statim haat alignment of County Road 24 and Medina Road shall be per City Council agreement. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Martafsky, seconded by Commissioner Wire, to amend the main motion by adding a condition stating that dolly lane be made into a cul-de-sac. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried., MOTION by Conk-tissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Verney, to amend the main motion by changing Condition 5 to read, "No private drive access shall be permittedto Kadina Road and County Road 24 from any residential unit, all private drives shall be provided by internal' public streets. o position is taken with respect to commercial or dustrial site access to County Road 24 and Medina Road." Mr. Oair asked the Commission if Outlof C would be precluded or if there could be a public right -of -gray in to Outlet C from Medina Road.. Commissioner Marofsky stated that the reason for his motion was to only preclude private drive access. Rolf Call Vote. 5 Ayes, MOTION carried:, MOTION by Commissiuner Marofsky, secondeu by Commissioner Zylla, to amend the main motion by changing Condition 10 to state that lots, adjacent to Medina. Road, east of 24th Aynue North shall have garage setbacks of 35 feet and living area setbacks of 50 feet.. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Dire, to amend the main motion by adding a condition stating that. Outlots A and, g and the proposed private street be plotted as single outlots Commissioner Marofsky stated that the County Road Zak road eignnient may change and tae would not like to see it parated. MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO AMENl VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED LOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO AMEND Planning Commission Minutes' June 26, 1990 Page 102 11 Call 4ote, I Ayes. Cowimissioners Wire, Zylla, Tierney VOTE - MOTION FAILED d Chairman Plufka Nay. MOTION failed. MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner Wire, MOTION TO AMEND to amend the main motion by adding a condition stating that the owner shall be responsible for the maintenance of Owlot E. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Zylla stated that the street names should be looked at. Coordinator Dillerud responded that street naming is done at the time of th,4. Final Plan by the Building 3fficial Roll Call Vote oit main motion. 5 Anes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MAIN MOTION CARRIED Chairman Plufka called for a 10 minute recess at 9:30 p,m. Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting at 9:40 p.m. Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Craig Scherber for CRAIG SCHERBER (90037) an RPUD Concept Plan, Preliminary Plan/Plat/Conditional Use rmit and Rezoning for property located at the northeast49-rner of Coun.xy Road 24 and County Road 101. Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the June 21, 1990, staff report. Chairman Plufka introduced Tom Loucks, representing the petitioner. Mr. Loucks stated that the proposed site contains a substantial amount of open space (30 percent) consisting of much park, wetland, and ponding areas. He stated that the twinhomes will aesthetically combine well with the single family neighborhood. Mr. Loucks emphasized that the transition between the twinhomes and single family homes meets the Zoning Ordinance guidelines. He stated that there is a 100 foot distance between the residents of Hans Hagen's development and Craig Scherber's development with a trail and extensive screening buffering between the two developments. Chairman Plufka asked Mr. Loucks how much open space is dedici,,ted to the City above the 100 Year Water Elevation. Mr. Loucks responded 5.23 acres, all of ahich is in the park area. Planning Commission Minutes June 26, 1990 Page 103 lAsh"Orman Plufka introduced Kathleen Burk, representing the Wefitioner, Ms. Burk stated she is a representative of County Home B-jilders which will be the builders for the proposed twinhomes. Ms. Burk stated their market is centered at people aged 55 years or older and families with no children. She stated that the Country Homes concept is a hybrid between the single family homes and the twinhomes. She stated eaco Q7untry Home will be between 1,400 to 3,300 square feet. Ms. Burk gave a slide preseiitation of the Country Homes. Chairmaii, Plufka asked Ms. Burk if there will be one common open space area. Ms. Burk responded that there will be 10 feet of private yard around the structure and the balance is owned by the Homeowner's Association. Com-missioner Marofsky asked Ms. Burk if, by law, County Home Builders must sell to families with children if the family so desired to purchase the twinhome. Ms. Burk responded affirmatively, Ask IWairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. Chairm,.an Plufka introduced Joe Domagala of 17705 County Road 24. Mr. Domagala stated he was concerned the City of Plymouth has gone through degradation of standards. He stated that the setbacks and lot sizes are too low. Mr. Domagala stated he was not against the proposal in whole, and 'did not favor the proposed twinhomes. He stated the whole development should be single family units, Chairman Plufka introduced John Grigg of 3130 Queensland Lane North. Mr. Grigg submitt-ed a petition to the Planning Commission in oppositI-XII. Chairman Plufka noted the Planning Commission's 6receipt such a petition. Mr. Grigg stated he was inIi opposition of the proposed twinhomes. i Chairman Rlufka introduced Michael Halbach of 3185 Kimberly Lane North, My*. Halbach stated he was concerned about the addition of landscaping between his property and Craig Scherbers t velopment. lie stated lie was in opposition of the proposed inhomes. it Planning Commission Minutes June 26, 1990 Page 104 AWairman Plufka introduced Sieve Jacobitz of 3520 Urbandale qFane North. Mr. Jacobitz stated he is in opposition of the proposed twinhomes. He stated the nature of the existing development is single family homes. He stated he is concerned with the Sunday morning traffic of County Road 101 for the proposed church site. Chairman Plufka introduced Mary Letter of 17435 Medina Road, Ms. Lever stated she would like to keep access from her property to Medina Road. Chairman Plufka introduced Wayne Menge of 3190 Kimberly Lane North Mr, Menge stated he is in opposition of the proposed twinhomes. He stated the twinhomes will devalue the properties of the single family homes. He s,,.ted that he was also concerned about the density. Chairman Plufka introduced Peter 'ergine of 18010 31st Avenue North. 4,r-. Perrine stated he is in opposition of -the proposed Winhomes. Chairman Plufka introduced Jim Stavros of 17430 Co4nty Road 24. Mr. Stavros stated he was in opposition of the proposed twinhomes. Chairman Plufka introduced Duane Hibben of 3170 Queensland Lane North. Mr. Hibben stated he was in opposition of the proposed twinhomes. Mr. Hibben asked Mr.. Loucks what the value of the proposed homes would be. Mr. Loucks responded $172,000 to $250,000 for the s"Ingle family homes and $140,000 for the twinhomes. Mr. Hibben asked staff what guarantee is there for a time line to finish the project. Coordinator Dillerud responded that the development of the homes is not guaranteed, but completion -of public improvements on the site is. 4iairman lufka introduced Rancy Speaker of 3180 Queensland ne North. Planninn rnilimit-,qinn Minute- Planning Commission Minutes June 26, 1990 Page 105 Speaker stated she was concerned that the twinhomes will ve-ntoally turn into reriLial units, Mr. Loucks stated that the Homeowner's Association documents would preclude the twinhomes from becoming rental units. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. Commissioner Stulberg asked Mr. Loucks to address the PUD attributes. Mr. Loucks responded that theye is much passive open space and that the wildlife not be affected by the development. Commissioner Marofsky asked Mr. toicks if they have provided any recreational facilities. Mr. Loucks responded negatively. Chairman Plqfka asked where they plan to provide public active space for the single family residents., 1 Mr. Loucks responded that most of the lots are over 18,500 squAre feet. With 600 feet of neighborhood pirk frontage, IAVALA feels they have dedicatedmuch park. W MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg:, seconded by Chairman Plufka to recommend denial of the request by Craig Schlerber for an RPUD Concept Plan for property located at the northeast corner of County Road 24 and founty Road 101, used on the finding that the pi-oposad pluat, fails to meet CoK1ition 4 of the PUD Attributes. Commissioner Stulberg stated he was not opposed coif the mixed use and lot size. MOTION TO DENY I MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by C1 issioner MOTION TO AMENDQ'U Wire, to amend the main motion by adding' staff's recommendations from the staff report of Julie 21, `1990, with the finding of the main motion becoming number one. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Ccmmissioner Stulberg, Nay. MOTION carried. Roll Call Vote on main motion, 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. Commissioner Zylla stated he was not in support of the twinhomes anywhere on the site. ANk W, mmissioner Wire stated he feels the petitioner has not adequately buffered the twinhames, from the single family homes. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED VOTE - MAIN MOTION, CARRIED Planning Commission Minutes June 26, 1990 Page 1.05 airman Plufka introduced the request by Ryan Construction RYAN CONSTRUCTION mpany for a Mixed Planned Unit Development Preliminary COMPANY (90051) Plan, Conditional Use Permit amendment. and Final Site Pians 2) for Lot 1, Lot 2 and Lot 3, Block 2 of "Rockford Road Plaza" located at the northwest quadrant, of 1-494 and County Road 9 (east of Vinewood Lane) Chairman Plufka waived an overview of the dune 21, 1990, staff report. Chairman Plufka introduced Dill McHale, representing the petitioner. Mr. McHale stated that the architectural design of Rainbow Foods ties into the architectural design of Target with the exception of a darker face brick. He expressed concern of the importance of staying on schedule with the utilities proposed fcr the 1990 Capital; Improvements Program Par. McHale stat=d that the proposed Bakers Square will look aesthetically different than the rest of the project.. Commissioner Zylla asked Mr. McHale if there was, any reason for not proposing to landscape some of the islands in the parking lot. t r. McHale responded; that some of the islands are proposed be landscaped and some of the islands are proposed to be painted. Commissioner Marofskv noted that the proposed parking lot lights are higher than the proposed buildings and asked Mr. McHale if this height is standard. 3 Mr. ;McHale onded affirmatiue"yr and stated that the standard height fora parking lot light is 52 feet, which they are proposing. Commissioner Marofsky expressed concern that the residents surrounding the proposed site would be affected by the extensive lighting of the parking lot.: Mr. McHale stated that the lights proposed are of a `doon glow", which means that the lights will glow, but thay will not be offensive to the su—ounding neighborhood. i Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one present to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed the Public: Hearing. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Chairman MOTION TOIAPPROVE lufka, to recommend approval of the request by Ryan onstruction Company for a Mixed Planned Emit Development Prel4tainary Plan, Conditional Use Permit amendment, and Final i Planning Commission Minutes June 26, 1990 Page 107 Wte Plans (2) for Lot 1, Lot 2 and Lot 3, Block 2 of lockford Road Plaza" located at the northwest quadrant of 1-494 and County Road 9 (East of Vinewood Lane), consistent with the conditions of the June 21, 1990, staff report. MOTION by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner Wire, to amend the main motion by adding a condition stating that landscaping shall be added on the parking lot islands on Lot 2, Block 2, south to County Road 9. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg Nay. MOTION to amend carried. MOTION by Commissioner Wire to amend the main motion by adding a condition stating that landscaping shall be added to the slope on the south end of the parking lot. Motion failed for lack of a second. Commissioner Stulberg stated that the reason he voted against the motion to amend was because be believes the landscape plan is adequate as proposed, Roll Call Vote on main motion. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. Chairman Plufka introduced a continuation of the Public Hearing that was opened at the June 13, 1990, Planning Commission Meeting concerning six Zoning Ordinance Text Amendments that were proposed by staff: 1 - Flood Plain Regulations; 2 - Residential Facilities; 3 - Shoreland Private Recreation Facilities; 4 - Planned Unit Development Attributes,* 5 - Private Streets; and, 6 - Temporary Real Estate and Other Signs. Chairman Plufka announced each of the Text Amendments under consideration and asked if any member of the public desired to address the Planning Commission at the Public Hearing concerning these amendments. No members of the public requested to be heard. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing regarding No. 2, No. 3 and No 5; and continued the Public Hearing regarding No. 1, No. 4 and No. 6 to the meeting of July 11, 1990 C,jumissioner Tierney inquired as to whether the proposed Text Amendment No. 3 - Shoreland Private Rrcreation Facilities - related to a recent Board of Zoning Adjustments and Appeals' petition involving a picnic shelter =,djacent to Pomerleau Lake. Roordinator Dillerud stated that the Council direction to consider a Zoning Ordinance Amendment rega,ding Private 0 MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION 11- ARRIOV, MOTION TO AMEND MOTION FAILED FOR LAC"k OF A SECIOND I VOTE - MAIN MOTION CARRIED I Plapning Commission Mirutes June 26, 1990 Page 108 4oreland Recreation '1 acilities resulted frori the City 1oluncil deliberation of that Zoning Ordinance variance action. NOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE - TEXT Tisrney, to recommend approval of the Zoning Ordinance Text AtIENDMENT NO.. 2 Amendment No. 2** concerning Residential Facilities. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIEU MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Zylla, MOTION TO APPROVE - TEXT to recomend approval of the Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment AMENDMENT NO. 3 No. 3 concerning Shoreland Private Recreation Facilities. Roll Call Vote., 3 Ayes. Commissioner Tierney and Chairman VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Plufka Nay, Commissioner Marofsky abstained. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE - TEXT Marofsky, to recommend approval of Zoning Ordinance Text AMENDMENT NO. 5 Amendment No. 5 concerning Private Streets. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Mr. Loucks asked the Planning Commission to have the oposal by 'Craig Scherber put back on the table for scussion in order to ask for a deferral. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissiorte'r MOTION TO REOPEN THE Tierney, to reopen the Public Hearing for Craig Scherber PUBLIC HEARING FOR CRAIG SCHERBER (90037) Roll Call Vote., 3 Ayes. Commissioners Marofsky, Stulberg, VOTE - INIOTIOR FAILED and Chairman Plufka Nay. MOTION failed. Chairman Plufka adjourned the meeting at 12:10 a.m.