HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-23-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING C%WSSION MINUTES,
MAY 23t 1990
The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning
Cor, ufission was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
11' IS PRESENTz Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners
John Wre (arrived at 7:40 p.m.), Hal
Pierce, Joy Tierney, Larry Marofsky, and
Michael Stulberg.
MEM8-ERS ABSENT-. Commissioner Dennis Zylla.
STAFF PRESENT -z Coordinator Charles OflIerud and Sr.
Clerk'Typist Denise Lanthier.
MOTION by Commissioner Pierce, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney, to approve the Minutes for the May 9, 1990,
Planning Commission Meeting.
Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CW -119
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by U.S. Homes U.S. HOMES CORPORATION/
Corporation/Thompson Land Development Division for an RPUD THOMPSON LAN- INELOOP-
C.oncept Plan for the "Mitchell -Pearson Property" located at MENT (90035,t
the southeast quadrant of the west City limilus (Brockton
Lane) and Meoina Road.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the May 15, 1990t
staff report.
Chairman Plufka asked staff why the petitioner's failure to
achieve 10 percent open space consistent with the Sketch
Plan approval is not included in the resolution.
Coordinator Di'llerud responded that the failure to provide
10 percent qualifying open space results in the inability to
gain a bonus point in the PUD. The Sketch Plan approval
condition is not the same issue.
Chairman Plufka introduced Bill Pritchard of Orrin Thompson
s& Homes, representing the petitioner.
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Mr. Pritchard stated that Orrin Thompson Homes is an
integral part of the community. He stated they strongly
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believe in (.nstomer satisfaction, and their primary goal is
to co.)peratp, With the City of Plymouth in order to maintain
a long working relationship,. Be stated upon approval of the
Ske-*%:ch Plan, they were directed to create more open space,
ard he feels they meet ov, exceed the 10 percent open space
requirement by making some minor adjustments. Mr. Pritchard
stated that the adjustment of the collector street has
resulted in more lots and less cul-de-sacs. He stated their
trade-off is to create more active and passive open space.
Mr. Pritchard asked for direction from the Planoing
Commission regarding setbacks. He asked for front setback
of 30 feet for garage space and 35 feet for living space.
Mr. Pritchard stated lie agrees with the Ordinance regarding
side yard setbacks with the exception of homes with three
car garages. He stated that the Ordinance allows a setback
of 6 feet for detached garages, and asked the Commissioners
to view a three car garage the same as a detached garage.
Commissioner Wire arrived at 7:40 p.m.
Chairman Plufka introduced Greg Frank of McCombs, Frank,
Roos and Associates, representing the petitioner.
Mr. Frank stated that they have provided much open space for
amenities. He stated that the southwest portion cif the site
is wooded and would be preserved. He stated that the BC -PI
ponding area extends into the rear yards and that there is
no standing water in most of the pond area. Mr. Frank
stated that when they create the ponds, they will be
creating amenity. He stated the trails will be maintained
by an association in order to create a good linear
neighborhood. Mr. Frank stated that the average lot size
would be 12,000 + square feet, and no lots would be less
than 10,000 square feet.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
present to speak on the is.zue.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Heariog.
Commissioner Pierce asked Mr. Pritchard why the trail that
ties into the school adjacent to the "Mitchell -Pearson
Property" jogs as it crosses a collector street.
Mr. Pritchard responded that they will propose to change
that in their Preliminary Plan.
Commissioner Pierce stated he was concerned, that the lots
backing up to Medina Road in Block I were too shallow.
Commissioner Tierney asked staff what the name of one of the
proposed streets would be (Alvarado Lane or Zircon Lane).
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Coordinator DillerLa responeed that the naming of streets is
the decision of t}10 Chief Building Official. Street naming
will be reviewed at later ;Mat stages.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner M10TION TO APPROVE
Stulberg, to recommendapproval of the request by U.S. Homes
Corporation/Thompson Land Development Division for an RPUD
Concept Plan for th• "Mitchell-Pezrson Property" located at
the soutbeas;t quadrant of the west City }imits (Brockton
Lane) and Medina Road, subject t, -v the conditions set forth
by staff in the memorandum of May 15, 1990.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Stulberg, to amend Condition V by stating that the maximum
density shall be 2w5 units per acre resulting in 256 units,
only if the plan meets the 10 percent open space requirement
of the PUD Ordinance.
Chairman Plufka stated he was against the motion to amend
because he finds open space 'deficient. He stated that he
feels the petitioner is "shoehorning" move density than the
property can handle.
Roll Call Vote. 3 Ayes. Commissioners Wire, Pierce, and
Chairman Mufka Nay. MOTION to amend failed.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner
Stulberg.. to add a condition stating that the APUD
Preliminary Plan shall include private trail linkages
southwest, from "Walnut Grove Lane" to "Yellowstone Lane
from "Yellowstone Lane", westerly to the north end of the
pond area of "Outlot E"`, from "Alvarado Lane" west to
Outlot 0" at the north and south ends of "Outlot D" and
southerly from the "Alvarado Lane" cul-de-sac at the
southwest corner of the plan to the "Outlot G" trail
corridor.,
Commissioner Wire asked staff if this Concept Plan has been
reviewed by Parks and Recreation.
Coordinator Dilerud responded that the plan has been
reviewed by the Director of Parks and Recreation, and he had
no co n ents regarding the trails proposed.:
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes.. Commissioners Wire and Tierney
Nay. MOTION to amend carried.
VOTE - MOI ION TO AMEM
FAILED (TIE VOTE)
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION TO AMM
CARRIED
MOTION by Coinuissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION T4 AMEND
Marofsky, to amend Condition #3 by deleting the first
paragraph and assigning another +1 bona- point for qualified
open space in excess of 10 percent of the net site area, if
achieved.
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May 23, 1990
Page 81
Commissioner Stulberg stated he fec1s Condition #3 as it
reads is in conflict with the Zoning Ordinance.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Wt're and Chairman VOTE - MOTION TO AMEW
Plufka Nay. NOTION to amend carried. CARRIED
ChainDan Plufka stated that the reason for his vote against
the ame,,vdment was because he feels. Condition #3 is in
compliancy Ath, the Zoning Ordinance, as drafted.
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion. 5 Ayes. Dairman Plufka VOTE ON MAIN MOTION
Nay4 MOTION carried. MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Trammell Crow TRAMMELL CRO14 COMPAW
Company for a Site Plan and Conditional Use Permit for a day 90030)
care facility located on the west side of Berkshire Lane and
north of County Road 9,
Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the May 15, 1990,
staff report..
Chairme,n Plufka introduced Peter Hilger of Portfolio Design
Services, Inc., representing the petitioner.
Mr. iiilger stated he was in agreement with, the May 15, 1990,
staff report and had -noad , di tional comments.
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Chairinan Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
present to speak on the issue.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner S"L Qlberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney, to rk,ommend approval of the request by Trammell
Crow Comipany for a Site Plan and Conditional Use Permit for
a day care facility located on the west side of Berkshire
Lane and north of Counv:y Road 9, subject to the conditions
set forth by staff in the memorandum of May 15, 1990.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. M01ION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Independent School INDEPENDENT SCHOOL
District 284 (Wayzata) for a Site Plan, Conditional Use DISTRICT 284 (WAYZATA)'
Permit, and rezoning from FRD to R -1A for an eleno2ntary (90031)
school located between County Road 9 and Highway 55, east of
Peony Lane.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the May 15, 1990,
staff report.
Commissioner Pierce asked staff how staff planned to reguide
this area.
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May 23 1990
Page 82
Coordina%tor Dillerud responded that the school site and two
triangular remnants of other parcels now guided CL would be
reouided LA -1.
Chairman. Plufka introduced Stan Tikkanen, representing the
petitioner.
Mr. Tikkanen stated he was in agreemen4- with the May 15,
1490, staff report. He stated that school enrollment is
increasing and they foresee a need for a secondary school in
the near future, but stated that their immediate need is for
another elementary sch)ol.
Conmtissioner Stulberg asked the petitioner A- they were
proposing to build a new elementary school only'l mile from
the Plymouth Creek Elementary school.
Mr. Tikkanen responded tkiat they have deliberated
extensively over the location of a new elementary school.
He stated their primary factor in choosing the proposed site
was the availability for sewer and water.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Plufka introduced Kathy 14awkins of 17525 41st
Avenue Horth.
Ms. Hawkins stated. she resides on the cul-de-sac located
directly to the west of thr proposed site. She asked staff
what will be developed .;v wctly behind the cul-de-sac on
the proposed site adjaceiv o her property.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that there is a ball park
proposedto be built just north and east of her property,
and that it appears the wetlands directly behind the cui-de-
sac wGuld remain undeveloped.
Ms. Hawkins asked staffif sewer and water will be available
to the cul-de-sac when the proposed elementary school is
developed.
Coordinator Dillerud. responded negatively, but stated that
trunk sewer will be extended to this sewer district by 1991.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commnissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner
Pierce, to recommend approval of the request by Independent
School District 284 (Wayzata) for a Site Plan, Conditional
Use Permit, and rezoning from FRD to R -1A fo- ars elementary
aAk school located between County Road 9 and Highway 55, east of
Peony Lane, subject to the conditions set forte by staff 4 n
the memorandum of May 15, 1990,
MOTION TO APPROVE
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May 23, 1990
Page 83
is MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Connaissioner 61`10N TO AMEND
Marofsky, to amend Condition #11 by, adding -a statement that
the rezoning for this property shall be bound to this type
of use (school).
Commissioner Stulberg stated the reason for his motion was
because the wetland'on this property would be fine to count
as open space for an elementary school, but may, not be with
any other use.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION to amend carried.
Roll Call Vote on main motion. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Ryan Construction
Company for an amended MPUD Master Sign Plan for "Waterford
Park" located at 505 and 605 North qtate Highway 169.
Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the May 15, 1990,
stl-,ff report.
Chairman Plufka introduced Al Schackman, the petitioner.
Mr. Schackman stated he was in agreement with the May 15,
1990, staff report. He stated the proposed sign is to
identify a new restaurant called "Yesterdays"..
Commissioner Marofsky asked staff if the City would be
allowed to restrict the verbiage on the sign by adding a
condition to the resolution.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that he would not advise to
such a recotmnendation, due to "freedom of speech" conflict -q.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
present to speak on the issue.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner
Stulberg, to recommend approval of the request by Ryan
Construction Company for an amended MPUD Master Sig', Plan
for "Waterford Park" located at 505 and 605 Nort', -,4,ate
Highway 169, subject to the conditions set forth by - tff in
the memirandum of May 15, 1990.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner
Pierce, to amend the main motion by adding a condition that
restricts the verbiage used to advertise a Class I
restaurant that is a tenant of this MPUD.
VOTE - MOTION TO AMUD
CARRIED
VOTE MAIN MOTICK
CARRIED
RYAN CONSTRUCTION
COMPANY (90039,
MOTION TO APPROVE
MOTION TO AMEND
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May 23, 1990
Page 84
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg and Chairman VOTE - MOTION TO AMENS
Plufka Nay. MOTION to amend carried. CARRIED
Roll fall Vote on main motion. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried,
Cbalman Plufka called for a 5 minute, recess at 9:00 p.m.
Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
Chair,man Plufka introduced the request by Vicksburg 55
Partnership for the division of platted property and "proof
of parking" plan in the 1-1 District located at the
northeast corner of 32nd Avence, North and Vicksburg Lane.
Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the May 15, 1990, Chairman
report.
Commissioner Marofsky asked staff is there were any access
points from the property onto Vicksburg Lane.
Coordinat.-.-, Dillerud respondedthat access onto Vicksburg
Lane would not. be permitted due to the proximity of 32nd
Avenue North.
Chairman Plufka int-oduced Robert Dowden, the petitioner.
Mr. Howden stated he was in agreement with the Ilay 15, 1990,
staff report and had no addiVonal comments.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner
Pierce, to recommend approval of the request by Vicksburg 55
Partnership for the division of platted property and "proof
of parking" plan in the 1-1 District located at the
northeast corner of 32nd Avenue North, and Vicksburg Lane,
subject to the conditions set forth by staff in the
memorandum of May 15, 1990.
Vote, All Ayes. MOTION carried.
VOTE - MAIN MOTION
CARRIED
VICKSBURG 55 PARTNERSHIP
90019)
MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Lon Busch Roses LEN BUSCH ROSES (90038)
for a Site Plan for the construction of a greenhouse
structure on property located north of Medina Road and West
of County Road IGI.
Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the May 15, 1990,
staff report.
Chairman Plufka introduced Len Busch,. the petitioner.
Mr. Busch stated he was in agreement with the May 15, 1990,
staff report and had no additional comments.
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May 2, 1990
Page 85
Commissioner Maroxsky asked qtr. Busch if this proposal
completes construction of the Concept Plan they had
presented to the Board of Zo ging Adjustments and Appeals a
flew years ago,
Pyr. Busch responded affirmatively.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Wire to
recommend approval of the request by Len Busch Roses for a
Site Plan for the construction of a greenhouse structure on
property located north of Medina Road and West. of County
Road 101, subject to the conditions set forth by staff in
the'metnorandum of May 1, 1990.
Vote.. All Ayes.. MOTION carried,
The Commission agreed to a Planning Commmission meeting in
June on Tuesday, June 20, 1990, due to Music in Plymouth
being held on the regularly scheduled meeting date of
Wedne-day, June 27, 1990.
The Commission also agreed to a Planning Commission meeting
in June on Wednesday, June 20, 1990, to hold a Public
Meeting regarding the alignment of County Road 9
Chairman Plufka adjourned the meeting at 9;130 p.m.
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MOTION TO APPROVE
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
OTHER BUSINESS