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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-09-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES W 9t 1.990 The'Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order at 7zOO pm, MEMBERS PRESENT,-* Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissione-s- Michael Stulberg, Larry Marofsky, Joy Tierney, and Hal Pierce. MEMBERS ASSENT: Commissioners Dennis 2ylla and Jlohn Wire, STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator Charles Dillerud, City Engineer Dan Faulkper and Planning Secretary Jackie 11atson. MOTION by Commissioner Tierney, seconded by Co=issioner Pierce MOTION TO APPROVE to approve the minutes of April 25, 1990. Commission Pierce stated that "he word "temporary" should be inserted on Page 65, paragraph 3 before the word "signage." Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried, MOTION CARRIED Chairman Plufka, introduced the request of Dennis Arne for DENNIS ARNE (90022) Rezoning and Preliminary Plat for Arne Addition located at 4435 Vicksburg Lane North. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the May .3, I990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka questioned why a design for road access from the Guddal property was not provided for in the Staff Report. Coordinator Dillerud stated that an effort should be made by the developer to make access to the Guddal property work. Plymouth City staff do not do designing for developers per City Council written policy. Chairman Plufka introduced Dr. Dennis Arne, the petitioner. Dr. Arne stated that lie agreed with the need to provide the Guddals access from the proposed development. He introduced Rick Sathre who is the engineer for the development and stated Mr.. Sathre would discuss the "bubble" (access area into the proposed development for the Guddals), and other pertinent features of the development. Mr. Satlire stated that the Guddal property could be divioed into two or three lots—one lot containing the current homestead of the Guddals,, He said this had been discussed briefly with the Guddals. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. Planning Commission Minutes Mky, 9, 1990 Page 69 Chairman Plufka intrcduced Mr. Jim Guddal of 4465 Vicksburg Lane. Mr. Guddal distributed a handout to the Planning Commissioners, Mr. Guddal stated that his concerns wei,e with the prior easement given to the City on Vicksburg Lane for i n open storm sewer, and the current driveway access onto Vicksburg Lane. He said that if his access to Vicksburg Lane from his current driveway was cut off and he was forced to use an access created info -the, newdevelopment to exit from his home that this would involve a driveway of excessive length. He stated that this Y;ould, create a loss in market value to his home making the front entrance to Ws home his rear yard., Mr. Guddal stated that he fent item 6 in the Staff Report imary Issues and Analysis concerning the creation of a 40 toot outlot, was not in his best interest. Commissioner Marofsky asked Mr., Guddal if the subject of eventual denial of access onto Vicksburg Lane was discussed when he purchased. his home, and whether the storm sewer WaS created before or after he purchased the home. Mr. Guddalstated that the denial of access to Vicksburg Lane was not discussed when he purchased his home and that he has not had the opportunity to explore any options that may be available to him with an engipeer, should the access to Vicksburg Lane be terminated. He said that -the st*.orm sewer was constructed, after iie purchased his home. City Engineer Faulkner stated the open storm sewer could possibly be relocated. This was something that needed to be wf!rked out with the petitioner so that there would not be water standing in this storm sewer drainage ditch. Commissioner Stulberg asked that if the drainage pipe were moved to the property line, woule the easement would still exist as it now does. City 'Engineer Faulkner stated that easements can be restructured, if required. Mr. Guddal stated that he felt the Planning Commissi,)n should defer this item for 60 days until he could consult with an engineer. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Pierce to*recommend approval of the petitijn by Dennis Arne for Rezoning and Preliminary Plat log, Arne Addittion "located at 4435 Vicksb,irg Lane North subject- to the conditions listed in the May 3, 1990 Staff Report. rlannirq Commission Minutes MaY 9, 1990 Pae 70 NvtlOg to amend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded lay Chairman Plufka to add a condition to "hose listed in the Mky 3, 1990L Staff Report stating that access be provided tz Ordinatice standards for subdivis4ons for up to three parcels that may be created in the northeast corner belonging to Jim Guddal. Commissioner Tierney stated that the Coumissioners should look at the street bubble p)ssihility. Cc%idssioner Marofsky stated that there may be a more efficient way to lay out the division of the Guddal property. Roll Call Vote on Mot,= to Amend. 3 Ayes, Commissioner VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Stulberg and Chairman Plufka, Nay. MOTION carried. Roll Call Vote on Main Motion as once amended. 4 Ayes, VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Tierney, Nay. MOTION carried. Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Wiles Homes, Inc. for MILES HOMES, INC. a 'Zotiing Ordin-nce Amendment for signage for property located (90026) 1- in the 6-1 Zoning District. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the Pay 3, 1990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Plufka, introduced Mr. Morris Hartman representing the petitioner. Mr. Hartman stated that the site for Miles Homes, Inc. was 36.2 acres and that their building was barely visible from Nat -hen Lane and Highway 169. He said that a wall sign on the building t,ias not appropriate or effective and his request for a change, in the ordinance would not be precedent setting if the ordinance change was restrictive. Mr. Hartman showed the Commissioners a diagram of the existing sign end site. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. The Commissioners discussed signsns relative to location, size, identfication, effectiveness and the possibility of trade-offs allowing one type of sign for another. MOTIOtA by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Tierney to direct staff to draft language to amend the Ordinance to permit the exchange of wall signage for a freestanding sign in the 8-1 District Wiere, the parcel exceeds 20 acres, and has no access to atA adjoining moor thug Thfare and that the amendment be brought back to the Planning .,ommisslon for recommendation. Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Marofsky, Nay, MOTION VOCE - MOTION CARRIED carried. Mr. McHale stated that the design of all freestanding signage proposed was modified to substitute pylon signage for the previously proposed signage that proposed 100 percent opacity for the full width and height of the freestanding sign. The result of this modification was to substantially reduce the surface area of the freestanding signage proposed when measjre(, consistent with the terms of the Zoning Ordinance, Mr. Mckiate stated that she number of freestanding signs was reuuced from 7 to 6; the sign that was eliminated that would. have been located at the southwest corner of test Medicine Lake Drive (Northwest Boulevard/County Road 61) and 42nd Place North. Mr. McHale stated that they propose the surface area of 4 of the 6 remain ng freestanding signs, be reduced from approximately 200 square feet to a specified maximum of 96 square feet, consistent with .he Zoning Ordinance maximum in the S-2 Zoning Distriyt. Two of the freestanding signs (the one located adjacent to 1-494 for Tar•;,?t, and one at the northeast corner of County Road 9 and Vine.,00d Lane serving the shopping center) are proposed to be 300 square feet each.. Planning Commission Minutes May 9, ;990 Page 71 Chairman Plufka introduced the Zoning Ordinance Textual ZONING' ORDINANCE Amendment on Yard Waste and Composting. AMENDMENT Chairman Plufka waived the review of the Staff Report. Chairman Plufxa opened and closed the Public Nearing as there was no one present to speak on the issue., MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Tierney to recomae` apps^oval of the Zoning Ordinance Textual Amendment on Yard Waste and Composting. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE -MOTION CARRIED Chairman Plufka calleda five minute recess at 8:25. p.m. Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting at 8:30 p.m. Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Ryan Construction RYAN CONSTRUCTION Company of Minnesota, Inc. for a PUD Final Sign Plan for COMPANY OF MINNESOTA Rockford Road P'l'aya for property located at the northeast 89014) corner of 1-494 and County toad 9. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the May 1, 1990 Staff Report.. He stated that Ryan Construction Company would be presenting a revised sign tL-- the Commission this evening. plan Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Dill McHale representing the petit -loner. Mr. McHale stated that the design of all freestanding signage proposed was modified to substitute pylon signage for the previously proposed signage that proposed 100 percent opacity for the full width and height of the freestanding sign. The result of this modification was to substantially reduce the surface area of the freestanding signage proposed when measjre(, consistent with the terms of the Zoning Ordinance, Mr. Mckiate stated that she number of freestanding signs was reuuced from 7 to 6; the sign that was eliminated that would. have been located at the southwest corner of test Medicine Lake Drive (Northwest Boulevard/County Road 61) and 42nd Place North. Mr. McHale stated that they propose the surface area of 4 of the 6 remain ng freestanding signs, be reduced from approximately 200 square feet to a specified maximum of 96 square feet, consistent with .he Zoning Ordinance maximum in the S-2 Zoning Distriyt. Two of the freestanding signs (the one located adjacent to 1-494 for Tar•;,?t, and one at the northeast corner of County Road 9 and Vine.,00d Lane serving the shopping center) are proposed to be 300 square feet each.. Planting Commission Minutes May 9, 1990 Page 72 Jft Chairman Plufka stated his concern with the removal in the sign plan of the identification sign 6n Medicine Lame Road. Mr. McHale stated that the shopping center will be visible from Medicine Lake Road and the sign was not necessary. Commissioner Pierce asked if there would be signage on the East or back side of the shopping center. Coordinator D i llbrud -" siatec'i ^'ha't<' these areas would remain eligible for signage. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Marofsky to recommend approval of the petition for Ryan Construction Company of Minnesota for a PUD Final Sign Plan for Rockford Road P iza located at the northeast corner of 1-494 and County Road 9 per the revised sign plan presented to the Commission and aubjecir to the conditions listed in the May I, 1990 Staff Report..: the total number of freestanding signs would now be 6 and all would be pylon design. The Target sign adjacent- to 1-494 and the Shopping. Center Master Sign on Lot 2, Block 2 adjacent to Count; Road 9 shall each be a maximum 300 square feet area; the 4 additional freestanding signs shall each be a maximum of 96 square feet area; and located on eaLh of the four, platted parcels o the MPUD except Lot 1, Block 1, and Lots I and 2, Block 2. MOTION by Commissioner 0arofsky, seconded by Commissioner Pierce to amend the motion changing the language of condition number I to read;. "Provide the- applicant the option of moving the pylon sign on the Target, site 1.00 feet northerly of the location proposed on the blaster Sign Plan." Also, the approval recommendation shall specify a maximum sign height of 45 feet for the 300 square foot signs and not to exceed the height of the principal building on the parcel for the 96 square 'foot signs Vo.>,w 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. MOTIONto amend by Commissioner Pierce, seconded by Commissioner Marofsiy to amen` :ondition number 3 of the May 1, 1990 Staff Report to eliminate wall signage visible from hest Medicine Lake Drive except for those tenants occupying 15.000 square feet or more of shopping center area --to be limited to the wall surface area facing best Medicine Lake Drive foy those specific tenants. Any shopping center tenant with greater than 15,000 square feet of floor area may have wall signage facing West Medicine Lake Drive but only wall signage equal to 10 percent of the wall surface area of that tenant. 0 Vote. 4 Ayes, Commissioner Stulberg,::>. MOTION carried. MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Vote on blain Motion as twice amended. 5 Aye.- MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED.. Planning Commission Minutes may 91, 1990 Page 73 Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Target Stores for a MPUD Final Site Plan for Rockford Road Plaza located at the northeast corner of 1-494 and County Road 9. Coordinated Dillerud reviewed the May 4, 1990 Staff Report. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Bill McHale representing the developer. Mr. McHale introduced Ms. Raquel Rudquist representing Target Stores. Mr. McHale stated that the trash compactor would not be visible and therefore felt that screening was not necessary.. He said that the roof top units would be screened with planted vegetation. Ms. Rudquist described the roof top units as 3 feet by 7 feet by 7 feet each and 18-20 in number, and said that they would be painted to match the building, This approach would make them less visible than the construction of a wall which would have to be built to screen the units. Commission Marofsky questioned the noise from the roof top units if they were not screened. Ms. Rudquist stated the units produce a maximum of 80 decibels and. said she did not believe the noise would be audible to aurrounding -neighbors, due to distance. C)mmissioner Marofsky asked what would be done if the noise from the roof top units was audible to distant properties. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the Ordinance states that roof top units must be screened to preclude noise discernible beyond the property line in adjoining residential areas. Commissioner Stulberg asked if all the roof top units would be controlled so that they would not -,11 be running at the same time. Ms. Rudquist stated that they would not be all running at the same time. Mr. McHale showed the Commission a diagram of the snack bar, stating that it is generally a place for shoppers to relax and he did not consider it a Class II restaurant that required a conditional use permit. He stated that the snack bar will not involve customers ordering and carry -Ing out food. IsMr. McHale showed the Commissioners some samples of the exterior materials proposed of smooth brick and rock base block. TARGET STORES (90025) Plauniag CommiRsior Minutes May 9, 1990 Page 74 is Coordinator Dillerud asked if th,-- proposed exterior of the tuilding was to be all concrete block and not brick. He said that the exterior materials used on the Target Store will set the tone for the rest of the shopping center.,, Ms. Rudquist stated that the building was proposed to be all concrete block. Mr. McHale stated that the exterior of the Target Store could be done in brick apJ, rock Kase block mix. Commissioner Pierce stated that he thought the roof top units would look better if they we.e painted to coordinate with the building rather than building a wall to screen them. MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Stulberg to MOTION TO APPROVE recommend approval of the petition by Target Stores for an MPUD Finhl Site Plan for Rockford Road Plaza located at the northeast corner of 1-494 and County Road 9 subject to the conditions listed in the May 4, 1990, Staff Report. MOTION to amend by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by MOTION TO AMEND Commissioner Pierce to- change condition 8 stating that the PUD Plan be amended to allow the outdoor trash compactor to be unscreened. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. MOTION to amend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by MOTION TO AMEND CommisiJoner Pierce to amend condition 8 stating that if the outdoor trash compactor and surrounding area are not kept clean and free of debris they can at any time in the future be required to screen the area. Vote., 4 Ayes, Chairman Plufka, Nay. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Pierce to amend condition 10 to allow the roof top units to be screened in the manner proposed by the petitioner's plan and painted to coordinate with the building. If' noise becomes a problem to adjoining residential property the units will be recpired to be screened. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, s!conded by Commissioner Marofsky to delete condition 14 requiring a conditional use permit for the snack bar..,,. Vote. 3 Ayes Counissioner Pierce and Chairman Plufka, Nay. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seunded by Chairman Plufka to add a condition to the May 4, 1990 Staff Report recommended VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION CARRIED AOTION TO AMEND Planning Commission Minutes May 9, 1990 Page 75 toconditions stating that the t xterior of the building must be a combinat-t-ion of brick and decorative block on all fou- walls. Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. Vote on Main Motion as five times amended, 5 Ayes MOTION carried unanimously. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED VOTE - MOTION CARRIED UNANLMOUSLY Chairman Plufka, introduced reconsideration of the request of MEDICINE LAKE LUTHERAI Medicine Lake Lutheran Church for Rezoning, Site Plan, CHURCH (89086) Conditional Use Permits, and Variance to construct a place of worship and elementary school locatedat the southwest corner of Zachary Lane and Old Rockford Road. Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the May 2, 1990 Staff Report stating that the petitioner has Paade changes to the plans, and he plans now meet Ordinance stafidards with respect to parking lot screening. Chairmar Plufka introduced Mr. Jack Ovick and Mr.. Don Obernolte representing the petitioner. Mr. 0vick explained the changes made to the plan by the Medicine Lake Lutheran Church responsive to direction from the City and suggestions of neighbors. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Mark Beltrand of 4120 Balsam Lane North who stated he was concerned about the drainage now running south along the west property line of this site. City Engineer Feulkner stated that a new culvert under Rockford Road on the West ide of Zachary Lane would cause drainage from north to south to be directed east to flow in the west ditch of Lachary Lane, He said that berming would fill in the existing culvert Linder Rockford Road. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Veryl Chihak of 4130 Balsam Lane North., Mr. Chihak stated that bad feelings resulted in discussion of this proposal between the church versus neighbors, and between neighb,-.rs versus neighbors. He applauded the church for handling the situation and for placing stakes on the properti so that the neighbors could vistle-Illy see the location of the proposed development area. He stated that he felt that if the church was not built on this location, something else would, be. He asked the Commission to approve the petition. Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Bruce Flessner of 4115 Balsam Lane North. Mr. Flessner stated that changes made in the elevation for screening of the parking area still did not meet the Ordinance standards. He made specific reference to the southerly 115 feet of the West side of the site. Planning Commission Minutes May 9, I990 Page 76 Coo,-0dinator Dillerud st ited that this new bermi ng proposed to screen the pt-kir;g area does meet the OrJnance standaros in hic opinion, A fence previously was not proposed as part of the e ,,,td this now is part of the new proposal Chairman Plufka introduced fir. GeraldWoessner of 4200 C ttonwood Lan% North. Mr. Woessn,er stated he did not fee' the bermirg on the West side of the development wasadequate, particularly the southerly 11.5 feet. He said he felt the noise, traffic and drainage problems on the -ite would i:pair property values in the adjoining area. He stated that he was opposad to the petition City Engineer Faulkner stated that measures would be taken to prevent erosion in the area. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the berming projected does meet the Ordinance standards for screening offstreet parking and if it does not in actual operation the petitioner will be required to change it so that it does meet Ordinance standards, as applicably:, Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Duane Cramer of 11210 42nd Avenue North= Mr. Cramer stated that -he felt the parking screening on the southwest corner was not adequate. He said that a concern was that the fence proposed was to be eight feet high and the trees proposed against the fence were only to be six feet high initially. Mr. Cramer statedhe was happy with the condition that there be a cap on enrollment for the school but he would also like to see a condition that there be no additional structure expansion on the site, or expansion of the site. He said that there are still several other items he would like to see resolved before he could be in favor of the petition, Commissioner Pierce asked' if expansion was possible on the site. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the petitioner could apply at a later time for a conditional use permit for expansion but they would have to go through the planning process for approval.: He stated that it was questionable as to how much more expansion could be accommodated on site due to impervious surface standards, but there was an: older home immediately west of the site that could be acquired for future expansion, as could any of the homes adjoining the site west or ;ouch,. MOTIOR by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Tierney to approve the petition by Medicine Lake Lutheran Planning Cc- .ssion Minutes May g, 1990 Page 77 Church fo° Rezoning, Sitz Pian, Conditiona, Permits, and Variance to construct a place of worship and etomentary school located at the southwest corner cif Zachary Gane and Old Rockford Road subject to the conditions listed in the May 2, 1990 Staff Report. Roil Call Vote. 4 Ayes;, Commissioner Stulberg, Nair, MOTION VOTE -t MOTION CARRIED. carried on a 4-1 vote. Coordinator Billerud updated the Commission on the Comprehensive Plan Update. Meeting adjourned at 10:50 p.m,. 7