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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 04-25-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING COMISSION MINUTES APRIL 25, 1990 The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order at 7zOO p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Plufka, Commissioners John Wire, Hal Pierce (arrived at 7.-55 p.m.), Dennis Zylla, Joy Tierney, Larry Marofsky, and Michael Stulberg, MEMBERS ABSENT: None. STAFF PRESENT: Coordinator Charles Dillerud. Citv, Enqineer Dan Faulkner, and Sr. Clerk/Typist Denise Lanthier. MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Stulberg, to re=irtend approval of the request by Ryan Construction Company of Minnesota, Inc. for a. Site Plan and parking deferral for, Computer Parts & Services, Inc. located approximately 1/4 mile west of Nathan Lane, south of 51st Avenue, subject to the conditions set forth by staff in the memorandum, of April 12, 1990. Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Stulberg, to approve the Minutes for the April 11, 1990, Planning Commission Meeting, subject to the following change. - On Page 58, paragraph 14, the words "drying facilities" should be substituted for the words "automatic air dryer". Vote. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Zylla tabstained. MOTION carried. Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Laukka-Williams Parkers Lake for a Mixed Use Planned Unlit Development Preliminary Plan/Plat, Conditional Use Permit, and Subdivision Ordinance variances for Parkers Lake North 6th Addition located at the northwest corner of 18th Avenue North and Shenandoah Lane. MOTION TO APPROVE - RYAN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY OF MINNESOTA, INC. (90017) VOTE - MOTION CARRIED MOTION TO APPROVE - MINUTES VOTE - MOTION, CARRIED LAUKKA-WILLIAMS PARKERS LAKE (90014) Planning Commission Minutes April 25, 1990 Page bl Coordinator Oillerud gave an overview of the April 12, 1990, staff report. Chairman Plufka asked. staff how many buildable acres there are on OuOnt A. He expressed concern about the future density of Ov of Ay _... Commissioner Marofsky commented that the Preliminary Phan shows the lot lines going beyond the setbacks, which, he stated, should match. Commissioner Marofsky also commented that Laukka-Williams should submit all future Homeowner Association documents to the City Attorney for approval. Commissioner Stulberg asked staff how much time is needed R for Public Works to evaluate the traffic islands proposed. for this project.. City Engineer Faulkner stated that a "normal" winter season would be necessary in order to make a complete evaluation. He stated that, generally, traffic islands are more difficult to maintain during the winter. Chairman Plufka introduced Miles Lindberg of BRW, Inc.,: representing the petitioner. Mr. Lindberg responded to Chairman Plufka`s earlier question regarding the number of buildable acres for Outlot A He stated there are approximately 1.9,6 acres in Outlot J, 12.61 acres are iii proposed Outlot A, and 4 acres of that is ponding area. The net result is approximately 8 acres of buildable land in Outlot A. He stated the pond was developed naturally in the 4th addition to provide storm water storage for Outlot J. Mr. tin&arg presented arguments in. support of the p-oposed traffic islands. He stated the islands provide landscape relief; act as a delineator bet -ween the neighborhoods; and provide symbolic entrance features He stated there would be no public safety issues relating to the proposed traFfic islands Chairman Plufka introduced Lawry Laukka, the petitioner. Mr. Laukka stated that the original plan was developed in conjunction with: the City. He stated the property is split into parts --the east side is high density housing and industrial development and the west side is mid density housing and: commercial development. fir. Laukka stated that Gutlot J. is too big to develop at one time because of the dost to extend Shenandoah Lane and. 22nd Avenue. Mr. Laukxa expressed his support of the traffic islands. He stated they, add a nice touch to the community, and assured the Commisslan they would be teken care of properly. Planning Commission Minutes kori l 25, 1990 Page 62 Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one present to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed the Public bearing. Commissioner Wire aske4 staff if they have observed how well traffic islands in other communities have been maintained. City Engineer Faulkner responded negatively. Commissioner Marofsky stated that he has seen other traffic islands poorly maintained* He stated that the smaller -the traffic island, the harder they are to maintain physically and econor ti:cally. He stated that medians need to be addressed as to maintenance by the Homeowner Association documents. MOTION by Chairman. Plufka, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Stulberg, to recommend approval of the request by Laukka- Williams Parkers Lai.e for a Mixed Use Planned Unit Development Preliminary, Plan/Plat, Conditional Use Permit, and Subdivision Ordinance variances for Parkers Lake North 6th Addition located at the northwest corner of 18th, Avenue, Horth and Shenandoah Lane, subject to the conditions set forth by staff in the memorandum of April 12, 1990. MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND Wire, to attend the main motion by adding a condition stating that all lot lines are to b4 within the setbacks. Roll Call Vote., 6 Ayes. MOTIONto amend carried, VOTE MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AME?ff Tierney, to amend the main motion by adding a condition stating that all Homeowner Association documents are to be submitted to the Cite Attorney for appro€,al and are to include reference to maintenance of Outlot A and the medians, if otherwise approved. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION to amend carried. VOTE - MOTION TO AHEM CARRIED MOTION, by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Chairman Plufka, MOTION TO AMEND to amend the main motion by amending Condition 1 to allow for traffic islands as proposed by the developer. Commissioner Wire stated he was in general agreement with the Engineer's Memorandum, but felt that the traffic islands would be aesthetically more pleasing. 10 Commissioner Marofsky stated that the entrance traffic island: could become a problem with people putting up signs, which could cause traffic problems. Commissioner Pierce arrived at 7;55 p.m.. Planning Commission Minutes April 25, 1990 Page 63 CommissionWr Wire asked staff if the City would have recourse to keep the proposed traffic islands maintained if they were City -owned, but privately maintained. Coordinator Dillerud responded affirmatively and stated that the City would have the authority to take action against anyone who would inproperly use the traffic islands, or create a hazard to traffic. Cotmissione,r Stulberg stated that he will su port the motion because he would like to see the traffic is anes. developed. He also agreed that aesthetically they would look better, but was otherwise in support of the Engineer's findings. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes, Commissioner Pierce abstained, VOTE - MOTION TO AMEtT MOTION to amend carried. CARRIED Roll Call Vote on main motion. 6 Ayes. Commissiotter Pierce VOTE - MAIN MOTICH abstained, MOTION carried. CARRIED IMOTIONbyCommissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Wire, to recommend to the City Councill that Laukka-Will,,;rs be allowed to develop only a portion of the pond ltu*lutlot J as proposed. , 111 Vote. 5 Ayes, Commissioner Pierce abstained and VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Marofsky opposed. MOTION carried. Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Stuart Corpovetion STUART CORPORA11,110N, for a Planned Unit Development Plan and Conditional Use (90016) Permit amendment for signage located at the southeast quadrant of Rockford Road and Plymouth Boulevard. Coordinator Dillerad gave an overview of the April 12, 1990, staff report. Chairman Plufka introduced Stuart Nolan, the petitioner Mr. Nolan stated, he was inopposition with staff's recommendations. He stated his only intention is to conduct his business and advertise it. He assured the Commission that he would not put anything demeaning on the buildings that would turn the customers away. He stated that SuwerPlace Apartments are difficult to see because it is not on a major thoroughfare. Therefore he expressed that approval of the sign for SummerPlace Apartments would be most important to him. He further added that many people were sent property notice of his propusal and not one person has expressed opposition to such signage. Mr. Nolan referred to off-site signs existing for the Stonehill and Mallard Pointe Apartment projects, and said the director told him those were permitted by variance. He stated he is only asking the same consideration that has been accorded to those competing projects. Planning Coniission Minutes April 25, 1990 Page- 64 Commissioner Plufka asked Mr. Nolan if a phone number would be printed on the signs. Mr. Nolan responded that mostly likel., there will be a phone number, but added that he would be flexible enough to put on the signs what the Planning Commission recommend,-,.,,, Commissioner Zylla asked*. Nolan if the vinyl signs would be permanent. I Mr. Nolan responded that his business is losing money and either temporary or permanent signage would help his business. He said he would agree with a recommendation from the Planning Cow.ission to have a deadline for temporary signage. Commissioner Zylla asked staff if the City could do an annual review of the Conditional Use Permit. Coordinator Dillerud responded affirmatively. Commissioner Marofsky asked staff what the Zoning Ordinance regulations are for real estate signs. Coordinator Dillerud stated that the City does not regulate signs below a certain size. He stated the City allows for temporary identification signage until three years after a project is finished. Mr. Nolan stated that SummerPlace Apartments was completed. in the fall of 1987 and therefore their three years are rot up yet, but he still would like to have permanent or temporary signage beyond the "three year rule." Chairman Plufka.opened the Public Hearing. Chairman Plufka noted receipt of a letter from Frank Freels of 15115 38th Avenue North, stating the was in opposition of the proposed signage. Chairman Plufka introduced Jim Guddal of 4465 Vicksburg Lane North. Mr. Guddal stated that he is a resident of Plymouth and would someday like to be the owner of a business in Downtown Plymouth." He stated signage would be a very important part of his business, and stated he is in support of -the proposed signage for Stuart Corporation. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. 40 Commissioner Pierce asked staff if the City regulates the size of directional signage. Coordinator Dillerud responded affirmatively. 4 Planning Commission Minutes April 25, 1990 Page 5 MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Wire, to recorxiend denial of the request by Stuart Corporation for a Planned Unit Development Plan and ConditionalUse Pe,wmit amendment located at the southeast quadrant of Rockford Road and Plymouth Boulevard, subject to the findings set forth by staff in the memorandum dated April 12, 1990. Commissioner Marofsky did not think it was appropriate adopting such: a proposal on a case-by-case basis. He stated it would set precedent for all rental units and suggested the Commission review the Ordinanc: as a whole. Comtmission:r Pierce recommended setting up a study meeting to discuss signage such as the one proposed. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner, lire, seconded by Commissioner Pierce, to add to the next Planning Commission agenda dis:,ussion of rental signage.. Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes-. Commissioners Marofsky and Stulberg Nay. MOTION carried. isCommissioner Stulberg stated that his reason for voting against this motion was because he felt the Commission should look at the Ordinance as a whole and not just rental unit signage.. Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Arnold; Haugdahl for a Planned unit Development Plan and Conditional Use e-,nit amendment for a three season porch located at 4064 uantaco Lane. Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the April 12, 19903, staff report. Chairman Plufka introduced Arnold Haugdahl, the petitioner. Mr. Haugdahl stated that he bougkt his present home in 1983 and there was an existing 12' x 10' deck encroaching over the lot line. He stated he is proposing to construct a porch above the deck which would encroach 5 feet into the common grounds of the Association. He stated the Homeowner's Association has granted him an easement for the property, Mr. Haugdahl further stated that the proposed porch would not create a hardship for any other residents by blocking their view. Commissioner Zylla asked Mr. Haugdahl if the encroaching parcel was 68 square feet. MOTION TO DENS` VOTE - MOTION ARRIEU MOTION TO APPROVE VOTE - MOTION CARRIED ARNOLD HAM ° WL (900 i:8) Planning Commission Minutes April 25, 1990 Page 66 Mr. Haugdahl responded affirmatively and added that the Homeowner's Associaticn. granted him the easement because the existing deck and proposed porch coincide with E-ach otfier., Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one present to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner Pierce, to recommend aoproval of the request by Arnold Haugdahl for a Planned Unit Development Plan and Conditional Use Permit amendment for a three season porch located at 4064 Quantico Lane, subject to the conditions set forth by staff In the memorandum of April 12, 1990. C%imiss-loner Stulberg stated that he feels a hardship exits Iforthepetitioner because the deck was existing when he purchased the home. He stated lie felt it was not the fault of the present homeowner for the encroachment of the existing deck. Commissioner Pierce stated he agreed with Commissioner Stulberg's, comment about the hardship of the homeowner. Commiss -, r Marofsky stated that the Planning Commission would fine in favor of proposals of similar situations whenl hardships such as this exist. Commissioner Wire stated the proposal meets all of the standards o°k the Zoning. Ordinance for a Conditional lis( Permit. Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes., MOTION carried.. Chairman Plefka introduced the request by Holiday Plus for a Conditional Use Permit for seasonal outdoor display of merchandise located at 4445 Nathan Lane. Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the Api-il 12, 1990, staff report. Commissioner Wire as Ked Commissioner Marofsky if this proposal is related to the Outside Storage and Display Task Force. Commissioner Marafsky responded affirmatively and stated Mr. So'larz, the petitioner, is a part of that study group and at last week's meeting, they discussed the teu,)orary di;play of outdoor merchandise. Chairman Plufka introduced. Craig Solarz, the petitio'ner. MOTION TO APPROVE VOTE - MOTION CARRIED HOLIDAY PLUS (90021) Planniag Comission Minutes April e5, 1990 Page 67 Mr. Solarz stated that Holiday Plus is proposing to hold a plant sale during the months of May and, ,lune, and they are requesting the Commission to recommend approval to display the plants outside during the sale. He stated many customer's in previous years have suggested Holiday Plus display the plants outside during the sale, but the Ordinance would not allow for this. He stated that now that theOrdinance has changed, they have decided to apply for a Conditional Use Permit to store their bedding plants outside during the sale. Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no rine present to speak on the issue. Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing. MOTION by Commissioner 7ylla, sec6aded by Commissioner Tierney, to recommendapproval of the request by Holiday Plus for a Conditional Use Permit for seasonal outdoor display of merchandise located at 4445 Nathan Lane, subject to the conditions set: forth by staff in the memorandum of April 12, 1990, MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION, by Commissioner Marc ;econded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND ulberg, to amend the main . by adding a condition acing that no other outside display of merchandise shall` Le allowed unless specifically allowed by a new or amended Conditional Use Permit. Commissioner Stulberg stated he would vote against the motion to amend because the petitioner should be allowed whatever a future City licensing program would provide him regardless of this existing Conditional Use Permit. Roll Will Vete, b Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg Nay. MO`f1ON VOTE _ MOTIi N TO AMEND to amend. carried'. CARRIED Roll Cali Vote on main motion. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. V0 . - MAIN MOTICN' CARRi ll Chairman Plufka adjourned the meeting at 9:10 p.m. OTHER BUSINESS 0