HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 04-11-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
APRIL 11, 1990
The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning Commission
was called to order at 7:00 poR.
MEMBERS PRESENT-, Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners
Michael Stulberg, Larry Marofsky, Joy
Tierney, John, Wire (arrived at 7:20), and Hal
Pierce (arrived at 7:18).
MEMBERS ASSENI't Commissioner Dennis Zylla.
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator Charles
Dillerud, City Engineer Dan Faulkner and
Planning Secretary Jackie Watson.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Marofsky to approve the minutes of March 28, 1990.
Vote. 3 Ayes MOTION carried. Commissioner Tierney MOTION CARRIED
abstained.
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Hoyt Development HOYT DEVELOPMENT COMPAW
Company for a Site Plan Amendment, Parking Deferral, and (90002)
Conditional Use Permit for office/warehouse located at the
southeast coma -w of County Road 6 and County Road 61,
Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the March 27, 1990 Staff Report.
Commissioner Marofsky stated he wished to reaffini that the
driveway would be shared by the two buildings,- and also that if
parking became a problem, regardless of the percent of office
space in the building, that the proof -of --parking structure
would be required to be built.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that Commissioner Marofsky was
correct in his statement.
Coivmissione,.- Plufka introduced Mr. Mike Gair and Mr. Russ
Saulon representing the petitioner.
Mr., Lair reiterated that the petitioner agreed with the
provision of the March 2"7, 1990 Staff Report establi5hirg a
covenant on the property which may require the construction of
a parking ramp should additional parking space be needed.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing,
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr., Clayton Anderson of 3131
Fernbrook Lane.
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40 Mr. Anderson stated that lie was not in favor of an increase in
the office use in this area. He also wanted reassurance that a
parking ramp would be built if there was a need for additional
parking space on the property.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney to recommend approval of the petition of Hoyt
Development Company for a Site Plan Amendment, Parking
Deferral, and Conditional Use Permit for office/warehouse
located at the southeast corner of County Road 6 and County
Road 61 subject to all conditions listed in the March 27, 1990
Staff Report..
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Wire abstained as he was VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
not present for the discussion. Motion carried.
Chairman 'Plufka introduced the request of Vern Reynolds VERN REYNOLDS CONSTRUE
Construction Company for a Land Use Guide Plan Amendment and TION COMPANY (90012)
RPUD Concept Plan for Bass Lake Terrace located northeast of
West Medicine Lake Drive and the Soo Line Railroad.
Commissioner Marofsky advised the Chairman that he would not
participate in deliberation of this agenda item. The Chairman
excused Commissioner Marofsky from the table.
Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the March 30, 1990 Staff Report.
Commissioner Tiemey asked who would own the large ponding
area.,
Coordinator Dillerud stated that the ponding area is owned by
the lots that abut, and, there would be a pondin easement to
the City.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Mike Gair, Mr. Ron Halverson and
Mr. Vern Reynolds, the petitioner.
Mr. Gair passed out an outline to the Commissioners to aid them
in following his presentation.
Mr. Gair stated that the only reason the petitioner had for
requesting the reguiding from LA -2 to LA -1 was because their
plan was for two units per acre rather than three units p6r
acre that, is the LA -2 minimum denisty. Mr. Gair discussed the
other developments in the area that also have a lower density
than the three units per acre required in a LA -2 area. He said
that the desire of the developer was to be compatible with the
surrounding developments.
Mr. Gair stated that the developer wished to preserve the
physical featum of the property such as the uplands, lowlands
and 90 foot grade differential within the site. He said that
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the request for LA -I guiding is driven by the nature of the
land and that 9,9 acres, would be preserved as part of the PUD
plan.
Chairman Plufka asked if the petition were proposed as a LA -2
conventional development rather than a PUD would they be
required to meet the LA -2 minimum density standard.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that if the petition were a
conventional LA -2/R-2 development there would be no requirement
to meet density numbers.. tie said that Zoning Ordinance lot
dimension standards would be the density ccntrol.
Commissioner Tierney asked whether the new pond area in the
center of the plat would be usable.
Mr. Gair stated that the pond would not hold water year round,
and would be a passive recreation area.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. David A. Barstad of 12915 54th
Avenue Ncrth.
Mr. Barstad stated that he was in fLivor of the development as
presented by the petitioner, and also favored the petitioner's
plan to preserve the slopes in the development.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Mike Boen of '12945 55th Avenue
North.
Mr. Boen stated that his concern was the increase in traffic at
the 55th Avenue entrance to the devel opulent. He asked for an
explanation of an alternative for the development.
Chairman Plufka stated that if the development was left as LA -2
it could be developed as a conventional single family detached
plat with a minimum of 15,000 square feet per dwelling, or as a
Planned Unit Development with mixed types of housing.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that a PUD in LA -2 could have any
type of housing. He expanded on the PUD and conventional plat
methods of development.
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City Engineer Faulkner stated that traffic on existing 55th
Avenue North should not be excessive because most traffic iv4uld
use Schmidt Lake Road or Northwest Boulevard.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. John Coyne of 5515 Sycamore
Lane,
Mr. Coyne stated that he wanted to know if any noise abatement
was planned for the east side of Northwest Boulevard for the
existing homes. He said he was also concerned about the
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elevation of the northeast corner of the site and toe resulting
drainage from that area. Mr. Coyne stated ti at he was
concerned about the traffic for, those people wanting access to
the park located southeast of the site on the east side of
Northwest Boulevard.
Mr. Gair stated that Hennepin County has approved the proposed
access points to Northwest Boulevard (County Road 61) including
55th Avenue North.
Chairman P'lufka introduced Mr. Chuck Langer of 12935 55th
Avenue North.
Mr. Langer stated his concernt7 were the traffic at the 55th
Avenue North access and the access to the park planned east of
County Road 61.
Mr. Gair discussed access to the park located southeast of the
site.
Coordinator-Dillerud stated that park access alternatives would
be addressed by the Park and Recreation Department during
design of the park this. year.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing*
MOTION by Commissioner SL'tulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO DENY
Nerce to recommend denial of the petition for Vern Reynolds
Construction Company for a, LaQ.0. Use -!G,Uide Plan 'Amendment, to
reguide the site from LA -2 to LA -1 for BaysLake Terrace
located northeast of West Medicine Lake Drive and the Soo Line
Railroad, cons i ste nT wJth the Staff Report recommendations of
March 30, 1990 but 'ilf-leting Condition # 4, which refers to
street and utility assessments.
Commissioner Wire stated th..-L' he did not think that, three units
per acre would be possible on this site and that the area east
of the proposed plat is compatible with this petition. He said
that be favored the LA -1 guiding to give balance, to the area
and to keep the density down. He said he did not want to take
the risk of having twinhomes developed on the site.
Chairman Plufka stated that if the property were developed as a
conventional LA -2 plat it could be below three units per acre.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that the proposed LA -1 guiding
would result in a "spot" guiding when viewed in the proper
context of the Land Use Guide Plan stragegy in the 1-494
corridor --particularly the g-q dn north and south of the site.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Wire, Nay. Motion VOTE - MOTION TO DEW
carried for Denial of the Land Use Guide Plan Amendment to CARRIED
reguide the site from LA -2 to LA -1.
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MOTION by Commissioner Stalberg, seconded by Chairman Plufka to MOTION TO DENY
recommend denial of the RPUD Concept Plan for Bass Lake Terrace
subject to the findings listed in the March 30, 1990 Staff
Report.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Cotmaissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Tierney to delete, finding #3 related to the RPUD Concept Plan.,
Commissioner Stulberg stated that the Concept Plan fails on PUD
attributes alone.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Chairman Plufka to MOTION TO AMEND
delete the last part of finding #4 after the word "district".
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE MOTION CARRIED
Roll Call Vote of 'Main Motion as twice amended. 5 Ayes. VOTE MOTION TO DEW
MOTION for denial carried. CARRIED
rhairman Plufka stated the Concept Plan proposed did not have
Afficient usable common open space to qualify as a PUD.
frairman Plufka called a 5 minuted recess at 9:00 p m.
Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
Ch.irman Plufka introduced the request of H. I. Enterprises, H.T.- ENTERPRISES, INC`.
Inc. for a Site 'Plan, Rezoning, Conditional Use Permit and (90015)
Variance for a gas/convenience station located at the southeast
corner of Fernbrook Lane and Harbor Lane.
Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the March 29, 1990 Staff Report.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that he wanted to reiterate that
the rezoning of this property is in agreement with the
reguiding recommended by the Planning Commission, approved by
the city Council, and currently before the Metropolitan Council
for concurrence.
Chairman Plufka introduced +ir. Da4d Davenport, Mr. Rick,
Sathre, Mr. Charles Radlofl and Ms. Bev Kottas all representing
the petitioner. -
Mr. Davenport stated that the exterior of the structure will be
brick on all sides and not stucco as depicted on the graphic.
He stated that the deferred parking will soften site and
make it more pleasing. He said he waware of petition
presented to the Commissioners reque- ,g traffic signals at
the intersecticn of Fernbrook Lane anti i Xbor Lane. He stated
that the traffic studies done report that there would be no
change in the traffic impact at this intersection.
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Mr. Sathre addressed the escape lane on Fernbrook Lane and
asked why the developer would be required to complete that part
of Fernbrook Lane. He said he thought Fernbrook Lane was on
the apital Improvements Program and therefore questioned title
private sector's responsibility.
City Engineer Faulkner explained that plaris for Fernbrook Lane
widening to three lanes. The time to initiate this
updating is when development occurs.
Commissioner Pierce asked if two right turn lanes on Fernbrook
would be better than one continuous right lane.
City Engineer Faulkner stated that one continuous right lane
would be best.
Mr. Sathre stated that the additional easame t required for
this right lane would be restrictive to the site.
Commission Pierce asked how many pumps would be located on the
site and whether there would be service available for trucks.
Ms,, Kottas stated that the plan is to have eight multi -product
pumps (16 -dispensers). She said that if diesel fuel is not
marketable in the future, then there will be six pumps. She
stated there will be no truck service available.
Commissioner Pierce asked where the gasoline tanks would be
located.
Ms. Kottas stated that the tanks would be located on the south
side of the site. She said the hturs of operation would be
6:00 a,m. to 11-.00 p.m. and until 12:00 midnight during the
summer months.
Commissioner Pierce asked, if the car wash would be a full
service car wash.
Ms. Kottas stated that the car wash would be full service
including a sophisticated air drying system which will dry the
vehicles. There will also be band dry touch up within an
enclosed area,
Commissioner Pierce asked if vehicles would be stored overnight
outside the service bays.
Ms. Kottas stated that the auto repair f In of the site
would include pick Lip and delivery of vu. s and that no
outside storage was intended. if overnight storage was needed
in an unusual situation, the indoor stalls would be used.
Chaliiiian Plufka questioned what size pylon sign would be used
since it was not depicted on the graphic.
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IV Ms. Kottas stated that there would be one pylon sign 20 feet
high,
Chairluan Plufka opened the Public Rearing.
Chairman Plufka entered into the record a petition received
fi,= Patrons of the Children's World Learning Center noting
their revert that a traffic signal be installed at the corner
of Fernbrook Lane and harbor Lane.
City Engineer Faulkner stated that traffic signals are
installed when the traffic volume warra-,-rt's them.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. (Ja,ton Anderson of 3131
Fernbrook Lane.
Mr. Anderson stated that his concerns included overnight
parking on the site; the heavy traffic at the corner of
Fernbrook Lane and Harbor Lane and the need for traffic
signals; and the effect on neighborhood security during the
evening operations on the site.
Chairman Plufka introduced Ms, Donna Kilpatrick of 3000
F rnbrook Lane.
Ms Kilpatrick stated that she was the manager of the Norwest
Batik Building near the site and she was concerned about the
traffic at the Birt' rsection and the peril it presented for both
the bank customers and the daycare patrons.
Mr. Davenport stated that the Strgar-Roscoe-Fausch traffic
study was done in 1985.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner hire stated he was concerned about any overnight
parking on the site.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that outside storage regulations
are currently in the process of being discussed by the Task
Force on Outside Storage, Display and Sales, and that the
proposals, recommended from the Task Force, once adopted, will
apply to all service stations.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded. by Commissioner Wire
to recommend approval of the petition by R.I. Enterprises, Inc.
for a Site Plan, Rezoning, Conditional Use Permit and Variance
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for a gas/convenictice station located at the southeast corner
of Fernbrook Lane and Harbor Lane, subject to all conditions in
the March 29, 1.990 Staff Report.
H.I. ENTERPRISES, INC.
90015)
is MOTION to a -mend by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by MOTION TO AME7ND
C7 iiissioner Wire to add a condition to the motion stating that
the car wash must include an automatic air dryer to be used on
all vehicles.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VGTE - MOTION ARRIEO
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NC'T1IONto amend by Commissioner Wire to add a condition stating
that outside storage of vehicles not be allowed for more than
five ddvs.
MOTION failed for lack of a second.
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion as once amended. 6 Ayes. MOTION
carried.
Commission Marofsky explained what the Task Force on Outside
Storage, Display and Sales has discussed in the area of outside
storage for service stations.
Commissioner Pierce stated that he felt that outside storage of
vehicles should be governed by licensing.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that a representative from the
PI-Anning Commission was needed on the Task Force for Wetlands
Protection.
Chairman Plufka volunteered to be a member of the Task Force
for Wetlands Protection.
Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the status of the Comprehensive
Plan for the Coinissioners.
0 The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
MOTION TO AMEND
MOTION FAILED
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED