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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLWING CWtISSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 28, 1990
The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning
Commission was called to order to 7:30 p.m.
IMEMBERS PRESENT,. Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners
John Wire, Hal Pierc,&, Dennis Zylla, Joy
Tierney, and Michael Stulberg.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Larry Marofsky.
STAFF PRESENT. Coordinatir Charles Dillerud, City
ngineer Dan Faulkner, and Sr.
Clerk/Typist Denise Lanthier.
Iltum
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded Ivy Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Pierce, to approve the Minutes for tne February 14, 1990,
Planning Commissio-i Meeting,
Vote, 5 Ayes, Chairman Plofka abstained. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Hans Hagen Homes HANS HAGEN HOMES (89090)
for a Preliminary Plat and Rezoning froill cRD to R -1A and B-3
located at the southwest corner of Dunkirk Lane and County
Road 24.
Commissioner Stulberg excused himself from the discussions
of this item.
Coordinator Dillervid gave an overview of the February 14,
1990, staff report.
Commissioner Zylla asked staff if there is anything east of
Dunkirk that co0d affect the proposed Medina Road
alignment,
Coordinator Dillerud responded negatively and stated that in
the alignpiant through plat on the east end wtaa correct.
Conimis.sionor Zylla asked staff if further analysis was done
to assure it does not interfere.
City Engineer Faulkner resporJ.?d that it would tie in at
Dunkirk Lane.
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Commissioner Zylla stated that the petitioner will need
Medina Road access and asked :staff if the intersection at
County Road 24 and Dunkirk will get closed.
City Engineer Faulkner responded that closing the Countyg
Road 24/Dunkirk Lane intersectl n is part of his
recommendation.
Commissionor. Zylla asked staff what the time frame is for
the prope,'A construction of new Medini Road.
City Engineer Faulkner responded that construction of new
Medina Road is included in the 1990 Capital improvements
Program.
Chairman. Plufka stated that the City will need to preserve
options.
Commissioner Tierney stated she was concerned that the
petitioner does Pot have direct access to their site from
Medina Road.,
City Engineer Faulkner stated that there will be reasonable
access to the site from Dunkirk Lane on the south.
Chairman Plufka stated that from a practical standpoint, no
B-3 business could survive with minimal access as staff has
recommended.
City Ergineeri Faulkner stated that his recommendation was
based on the traffic analysis.
Commissioner Tierney asked staff if the, Dunkirk cul-de-sac
would serve both Hans Hagen and the site to the east.
City Engineer Faulkner responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Pierce asked staff what purpose the "bubble"
wiil serve on proposed Medina Road,
City Engineer Faulkner responded that the "bubble" will
serve ;is a driveway for the proposed residential lots
abutting it, but that staff recommended against this design
feature.
Commissioner Pierce asked staff what the traffic level is
estimated to become.
fhairman Plufka stated that the reason for the proposed
relocation of the Medina Road inte,section to the south is
to stay away from Highway 55.
Commissioner Wire asked staff if the proposed intersection
of County Road 24 with Highway 55 will be of a cloverleaf
design
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City Enj neew Faulkner responded that the intersection will
be of a fo ded diamond design. He further added that
estimated tv.-Ofic on Medina Road in the year 2010 consists
of 13,000 v;,rliicles per day,,
i>airman Plufka introduced Hans Hagen, the petitioner.
Mr. Hagen stated he felt the City should deal with the
Transportation Plan and decide on the location of the
intersection of Medina Road and County Road 24. Re stated
he would be agreeable to dedicate the easements needed For
Medina Road and County Foad 24 to accomplish the alignment
suggested in the Hennepin County sketch design.. He stressed
that Plymouth Meadows will need access to Medina Road as
well.
Commissioner Tierney asked Mr. Hagen why he proposes to have
access onto County Road 24.
Mr. Hagen responded that the rigs t -in and right -out design
would reduce, traffic congestion by eleminating some left
turns to the site. He added that the proposed vacation of
Dunkirk Lane will divide County Road 24 from, Medina Road to
the north.
Chairman Plufka asked Mr. Hagen if it is appropriate to have
is a single family residential lots abut a collector street,
such as proposed by his plat.
Mr. Hagen responded that townhomes would be more
appropriate, and added that the "bubble" would provide
safety for those residents backing out of their driveways.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing.
Chairman Plufka introduced Jerry Theis of 801 Valley Drive,
St. Michael,
Mr., Theis stated he is the owner of Dundee Nursery and he
objects to the realignment of County Road 24 depicted by the
Hennepin County sketch attached to the Engineer's memorandum
on this application. He further stated he was upset. about
the 'lack of notice on the road alignment issue.
Chairman Plufka introduced Richard Bloom of 14600 Woodruff
Road, Wayzata.
Mr. Bloom stated he, is the developer of the property to the
west of Hans Hagen's site. He stated he encourages the City
to quickly resolve the issue of County Road 24 and Medina
Road. He stated he concurs with the construction of Medina
Road this year.
Chairman Plufka introduced Dave Dahi of 4255 Kingsview Lane.
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Mr. Dahl stated he is the developer and owner of Plymouth
Meadows. He stated he is at a standstill until the City
decides on this plat because he needs sanitary sewer that
comes through this plat for his development. He encourages
the City to move ex4ediently. He further added that he is
in favor of the ,-;oposed plan.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Wire stated that it is apparent that the
developers wish 1, - stove ahead quickly; therefore, he felt
the Con-iission s .01move this item onto City Council with
a recommendation vir denial.
Chairman Plufka stated that he felt the City should be able
to make a d.cision about the intersection of Medina Road and
County Road 24, and the County Road 24 alignment south of
that intersection. This would settle design 'Issues for this
and other parcels in this vicinity.
Commissioner Zylla concurred with Chairman Plufka, lie added
he wants to move this proposal forward to the City Council
with the recommendation for approval.
Commissioner Tierney asked staff what the reason was to have
a 90 degree angle at the intersection of proposed County
Ro,.d 24 and Medina Road if, eventually, Medina Road extends
further wast at a different location.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that the City does not know
where County Road 24 will be located --it could reipain in the
current location, He added that the developer needs to
accommodate the intersection as existing since the alignment
of Medina Road would not be physically changed for some
time.
Chairman Plufka stated he does not feel :omfortab'te
recommending approval of this proposal because he feels it
is an inapproprate Preliminary Plat for single family
residential development fronting on Medina Road, a collector
street.
Commissioner Wire stated he also does not feel comfortable..
recommending approval of this proposal because with the
proposed realignment of County Road 24 and Medina Road,
there will be many severed parcels.
Commissioner Zylla stated that he feels Dunkirk is a minor
collector and does not agree with the cul-de-sac concept
recommended by the City staff.
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Chairman Plufka, to MOTION; TO DENY
recommend denial of the Preliminary Plan and Rezoning from
FRD to R -1A and 8-3 for Hans Hagen Homes located at the
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southwest corner of Dunkirk Lane and County Road 24,
deleting all the conditions and replacing them with one
condition stating that the developer has incomplete
knowledge of the Thoroughfa-e Guide Plan changes and is
unable to go ahead with his plans. The motion als, includes
a recommendation to the City, Council that trey 6fine the
location of the County Road 24 and Medina Road intersection
in order to proceed w-ith the 0-_,velopment of that
intersection.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Tierney,
to amend the main motion by restoring Condition I and
deleting the words "Medina. Road" on the second line.
Chairman Plufka stated that the reason he wants to restore
Condition I by deleting the words "Medina Road" is because
he feels Medina Road is an appropriate access poiit. he
s"ated he feels it is inappropriate to -now - have an easy
actalss into a convenience store.
Roll Call Vote. 2 Ayes., Commissioners Wire, Zylla, and
Tierneu- Nay. MOTICq failed.
MOTION Lv Commissioner Tierney, seconded by Commissioner
Pierce, tu amend the main motion by restoring Condition 1.
Commissioner Tierney stated she felt that because of the
unknown location of County Road 24, it would be best to
concur with staff's recommendation regarding limitation of
access to Medina Road.
Roll Call Vote. 3 Ayes. Comniissi,ners Wire and Zylla Nay.
MOTION carried.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Comumissioner Pierce,
to amend the main motion by restoring Condition 3.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes Commissioner Wire Nay. MOTION
carried,
Commissioner Pierce asked staff if the trail dedication
recommended would be in lieu of cash.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that it depends upon how it
is dedicated --easement or outlot. As an oulot it would be
in lieu of cash at least partly.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Tierney,
to amend the main motion by restoring Condition 4 and
deleting the words "fee or" In the list line.
Chairman Plufka stated that his feason for restoring
Condition 4 by deleting the words "fee or" is because it
would be easy vacate an easement if the County Road 24
alignment changes.
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION TO AMEND
FAILED
MIOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - MOTION TO AMEND
CARRIED
MOTION TO AME ilii
VOTE - MOTION TO AMENR
CARRIED
MOTION TO AMEND
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Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Wire Nay. MOTION VOTE - MOTION TO AMEND
carriea. CARRIED
MOTION by Commissioner Tiernzy to amend the main motion by MOTION TO AMEND
restoring Condition 2.
Motion failed for lack of a second,, MOTION TO AMEND FAILED -
NO SECOND
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Tierney, MOTION TO AMEND
to amend the main motion of 'Commissioner Wire by deleting
all verbage except for the denial recommendation,
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION TO AMEND
CARRIED
Roll Call Vote on main motion as amended. 4 Ayes. VOTE - MAIN MOTION
Commissioner Zylla Nay. MOTION carried. CARRIED
Commissioner Zylla stated that the reason for his vote to
deny is becakise the intersection of Medina Road and County
Road 24 is acceptable to the City and he, felt the right-of-
way could be fixed. He further stated he disagrees with the
bubble" on Medina Road to serve Lot 4, and he added that
closure of Dunkirk is not relevant to what the applicant is
Aft proposing.
MOTION by Chairman Plufka, seconded by Commissioner Tierney, MOTION TO ADVISE CITY
to advise the City Council that the Planning Commission COUNCIL
finds that the .etermination of the alignment of County Road
24 and Medina Road is critical to, the orderly development of
th,: property south of Medina Road on either side of proposed
County Road 24, and that the Planning Commission fipds that
the intersection can. be deter; mined without predisposing
where County Road 24 crosses Highway 55; and therefore the
Planning Commission recommends that the, determination of
that intersection be urtitrtaken as part of the study of
Medina Rcad at the earliest possible time.
Roll Call Vote. S Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE MOTION TO AMEND
CARRIED
Chairman Plufka called for a recess at 9--30 p,m,
Chairman Plufka reconvened the meeting A
Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Trammell Crow TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY
Company for a Rezoning, Lot Division/Consolidation, Site (90005)
Plan, and Variance for Plymouth Business Center located at
the noithwest corner of Berkshire Lane and County Road 9.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the February 14,
1990, staff report.
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Chairman Plufka introduced John Griffith, representing the
petitioner.
Mr. Griffith stated he was in agreement with the February
14, 1990, staff report, except with respect to the
recommended condition s to a covenant declaring day care
use of the south parcel. He referred the Planning
Commission to his letter of February 26,, 1990, objecting to
the covenant proposed, by st,ff. ,
Commissioner Stullberg asked Mr. Griffith what the other
options are for other uses in the facility.
Mr. Griffith responded that their main choice would be for a
day care facility.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
to speak on the issue.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Pierce asked staff if the screening from LA -2
Zoning District is a requirement.
Coordinator Dillerud responded that it is a requirement to
screen the parking, but not the structure.
Commissioner Pierce expressed his concerti that the loading
dock would not be screened from the LA -2 Zoning District,
Chairman Plufka asked Mr. Griffith if Trammel) Crow Company
plans to berm on the west side when they grade for
additional screening.
Mr. Griffith responded affirmatively, where enough room
remains.
Commissioner Zylla asked Mr. Griffith if the height of the
proposed structure will be the same as the existing
structure at 6th Avenue North east of Xenium..
Mr. Griffith responded th,zt the, height will be the same, but
the finish will be different. He stated Trammel Crow
Company plans to "break up" the length, of the, building with
columns.
Commissioner Zylla expressed his concern that steps should
be taken to "soften" the building's exterior appearance as
well as to have an adequate Landscape Plan because of the
LA -2 guiding, to the west.
Mr. Griffith siate d" that Trammell Crow Company has hired a
concrete compary out of k1iciiqo who specializes in unique
concrete appetk .kccs. He staled that the shading in the
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grooves of the concrete will be darker, creating a sort of
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Commissioner Zylla asked Mr. Griffith if there was a reason
Trammell Crow Company chose this site instead of the site
across the street.
Mr. Griffith responded that the narrow site made a better
alternative than the one across the street.
MOTION! by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg, to recommend approval of the request by Trammell
Crow Company for a Rezoning, Lot Division/Consolidation,
Site Plan, and Variance to create a lot in the 1-1 district
of less than 2 acres for Plymouth Busirte*,,-s Center located in
the northwest quadrant of Berkshire Lane and County Road 9,
subject to the conditions set forth 'in the staff report of
February 14, 1990.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Zylla, to, amend the main motion by deleting the last
sentence in Condition 10 and replacing it with a sentence
stating that no variances are granted or implied.
Rohl Call Vote on the motion to amend. 6 Ayes. MOTION VOTE - MOTION TO AMEND
carried. CARRIED
Roll Call Vote on the main motion as amended. 6 Ayes.. VOTE - MAIN MOTION
KTION carried. CARRIED
Cha,rman Plufka introduced the request by Eiden EIDEN CONSTRUCTION, INC.
Construction. Inc. for a preliminary Plat for Hawthorne 90006)
Place located west of Highway 101, south of 8th Avenue.
Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the February 13,
1990 staff report.
Chai.,man Plufka introduced Tony Eiden, the petitioner,
Mr. ,-,-iden stated he was in agreement with the February 13,
1990, staff report.
Chairman Plufka opened the Public Hearing,
Chairman Plufka introduced Bill Baxter of 17835 6th Avenue
Nort.h.
Mr. Baxter s+ated he felt Eiden Construction, inc, builds
quality homes, but asked the Commission if 11 houses is too
many to build on the site.
Chairman Plufka responded that their proposal meets all the
City standards and further stated that Eiden Construction,
Inc. is not asking for any variances.
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Conullissioner Stulberg added that the average lot size for
this proposal is approximately 23,000 square feet, and the
City standard is 18,500 square feet.
Mr. Baxter asked staff if the environment will be protected
during, the construction.
Coordinator Dillerud explained the rules for erosion control
and tree preservation.
Mr. Baxter asked staff if they could have the cul-de-sac on
6th Avenue designated.
Coordinator Dillerud recommended he write to the City
Engineer regarding this.
Commissioner Stulberg added that Mr. Baxter should get his
letter to the City Engineer as soon as possible to go aong
with this proposal.
Chairman Plufka introduced Ronald Goltz c' 17615 Rth Avqnae
North.
Mr. Goltz stated that lie is pleased with the quality homes
Eiden 'Construction, inc, builds, but is concerned with the
drainage on the west side of the church parking lot. lie
stated,he would like to see the dittn graded to make it look
better.
City Engineer Faulkner stated that he will need to work with
the church to get an easement, where needed.
Coordinator Dillerud added that the bulk of the ditch is on
the church property and stated that it is part of the storm
water drainage plan on the Fin.l Plan.
Chairman Plufka introduced Bill Kratoska of 6115 Narcissus
Lane,
Mr. Kratoska expressed his concern that the drainage pond
located west of the church parilling lot would be removed.
Coordinator Dillerud stated, ' that the pond will remain the
same according to the grading plan for the plat.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION thy Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Zylla, to recaiimend approval of the request by Eiden
Construction, Inc. for a Preliminary Plat for Haw,hGrne
Placa located west of Highway 101, south of 8th Avenue,
subject to the conditions set forth by staff in the February
13, 1990, staff report, but adding a condition stating that
structures exist on the site in conflict with the plat
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Ehk, design. Removal of those structures should be a condition10oftheplatapproval.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plullka appointed Commissioner Pierce to replace
Commissioner Tierney as the liaison for the Board of Zoning
Adjustment and Appeals.
Chairman Plufka appointed Commissioner Zylla to continue
being the liaison for the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee.
Chairman Plufka stated appointment run to the end of the
year.
The meeting adjourned at 10:45 p.m.
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