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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 01-24-1990CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANNING CONHMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 24, 1990 The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order at 7:30 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT.- Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners John Wire, Hal Pierce, Dennis Zylla, JOY Tierney, Larry Marofsky, and Michael Stulberg. MEMBERS ABSENTk- None. STAFF PRESENT. Coordinator Charles Dillerud. city Engineer Dan Faulkner, and Sr. Clerk/Typist Denise Lanthier. JJMMM MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION T(j APPROVE Zylla, to ;.pprove the Minutes for the January 10, 1990, Pi anning Commission Meeting, subject to tne changes noted by staff in a memorandum dated January 1.9F, 1990, which consist of the following: On Page 2, paragraph 2, the acres stated in the first sentence should be 30, not CO, On Pag-- 2, paragraph 12, the word "Pot" should be inserted after the word "does". Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. Chairman Plufka introduced the request of the City of Plytwouth for a Site Plan and Variance to construct a new Fire Station at the location of the existing Fire Station No, I located at 13?05 County Road 6. Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the January 16, 1990, staff report. Coviissioner Zylla asked Fire Chief Robinson what the size is of the, existing fire station. Fire Chief Robinson responded that the existing Pira station is 4,,000 square feet and the proposed fire station is 8,000 square feet. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED CITY OF PLYMOUTH (89114) Planning Coti'mission Minutes January 24, 1990 Page 11 Commissioner Zylla asked Fire Chief Robinson if the City was improving on a nonconforming situation. fire Chief Robinson responded that the existing fire station is it conformance except for the south side where there is an encroachment of the structure into the street setback. Commissioner Marofsky asked Fire Chief Robinson if ith Avenue South has been vacated, and if it has, does it sht)w it on the Site Plan as a part of the site. Fire Chief Robinson responded affirmatively, and stated that there was no other land availaHe to build another fire station in this area. He further stated that Trossen Wright Architects have done an excellent job fitting the proposed fire station into the existing fire station parcel. Commissioner Marofsky asked why the staff report of January 16 did not address the 6 deferred parking spaces as statr-d in a letter from Trossen Wright Architects. Coordinator Dillerud responded that, physically, more spaces could be added, but that the 6 -space deficiency is better treated as a variance since any additional spaces would be in setback areas. Mr. Mike Trossen of Trossen Wright Architects stated that every fire fighter will have a parking space. Commissioner Pierce asked staff how they came up with the figures for parking. Coordinator Dillerud responded that there is one stall for each 350 square feet of floor area, which is the same as Fire St-ition No. 3. Chairman Plufka asked for public input to this request. Rod Dallin of 12400 50th Avenue North asked what the time frame was be, re the new -fire station would be bullt. Fire Chief Robinson responded that it would be 6-8 months befotse Fire Station No. I will be in operation. MOTION by Dimissioner Zylla, seconded by Cowmission Pierce, IMITIONTO APP:1 VE to recommend approval of the request by the City of Plymouth for a Site Plan and Variances to construct a new fire station at the location of the existing Fire Station No. I located at 13205 County Road 6, subject to the conditions set forth in the staff report of January 16, 1990, including the Variances. 0 Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRI!. Planning Commission Minutes January 24, 1990 Page 12 Chairman Plufka introduced the request by Medicine Lake MEDICINE LAKE L1jTHFRXj Lutheran Church for a Rezoning, Site Plan, Conditional Use CHURCH (89086) Permits, and Variance -%'Io construct a place of worship anu day school located at the southwest corner of Zachary Lane and Old Rockford Road. Coordinator Dillerud gave an overview of the January 16,. 1990, staff report. Chairman Plufka stated to the public that those who wish to speak should speak to the amendments made by Medicine Lake Lutherai, Church sin we their deferral, and refrain from repeating comments made at the last Planning Commission Meeting. Coordinator Dillerud showed a color/texture sample of the proposed fence to the Commissioners. Commissioner Marofsky asked staff how high the proposed fence would be. Coordinator Dillerud responded 8 feet plus the berm height. Chairman Plufka introduced John Rieschl, representing the petitioner. Mr. Rieschl stated that he is the Chairman of Medicine Lake Lutheran Church. He stated that Medicine Lake Lutheran Church is currently renting property in St. Louis Park and that they do not own it. Mr. Rieschl addressed two concerns bro!.ght up at the last Planning Co"pissloo Meeting. The firs -t- issue was the playground location. Mr. Rieschl stated that the recason they plan to locate the playground at the northwest corner of the site is, mainly due to safety reasons. lie stated that they wanted it behind the school off of, Zachary Lane where the teachers would more easily have control of the children. The second issue was the screening on the south end of the site. Mr. Rieschl s' --d that they have taken out about 25- 30 trees due to Dutcn Elm Disease. He stated that their plans are to clean out the dead trees and replace chem with more new trees. Chairman Plufka introduced Mark Baker of 4600 Forestview Lane. Mr. Baker stated he was it favor of the proposed plan. He stated he felt the church would be a positive influence on the neighborhood. Chairman Plufka introduced Lannie Beltrand of 4120 Balsam Lane North. Planning Commission Minutes January 24, 1990 Page 13 Ms. Beltrand stated that she was concerned about the drainage ditch located in her back yard; that the screening from the parking lot was inadequate; and, that the landscaping would be insufficient. Ms. Beltrand then asked if there would be a guarantee that the landscaping will be completed as, proposed. Commissioner Marofsky explained that the City holds a bond for all developers to assure completion of landscaping, and that if they do not do the landscaping as required, the City will take from that bond money to complete the work for them. Ms. Beltrand asked what was going to be done wits the drainage ditch. City Engineer Faulkner explained that a new culvert will be put in under Old Rockford Road, and the drainage will be diverted back to the east to the Zachary Lane ditch. Ms. Beltrand stated she was also concerned about her property value decreasing, and asked if the City can restrict the church from, any other uses besides what is proposed, Coordin,tor Dillerud explained that all other uses besides 142L what is proposed will require a Conditional Use Permit. IV Chairman Plufka introduced Veryl Chihak of 4130 Balsam Lane North. Mr. Chihak did not comment. Chairman Plufka introduced Linda Cramer of 11210 42nd Avenue North. Ms. Cramer submitted a petition to t't,--- Commission opposing the proposed plan, and Chairman Plufka noted for the record that a petition was received by the Commission.. Ms. Cramer stated she was in opposition to the proposed plan, and expressed her concern about an increase in traffic; the size of the structure is incompatible with the, neighborhood; and, the property value and market value of her dome will decrease. Chairman Plufka introduced Duane Cramer of 11210 42nd Avenue North. Mr. Cramer stated that he was in opposition to the proposed plan. He stated he had spoken with four Prominent realtQrs, and they have all given their opinion that his pyoperty value will decrease significantly. He pointed out that the residents across Balsam, Lane will also be visually impacted Planning Commission Minutes January 24, 1990 Page 14 by the proposed structure due to the offset plI,V---ment of their homes. Chairman Plufka asked Mr. Cramer if he had any statistical proof that his home will! lleprecia,. in value. Mr. Cramer stated that he did not have any written facts. Chairman l 'Iuflka introduced Rod Dal lin of 12400 50th Avenue North. Mr. Dallin stated he was in favor of the proposed plan, and he would like to see the project expedited. U'airman Plufka introduced Joan Denis of 5105 Norwood. Mss Denis stated she was, in, favor of the proposed plan, and supports Medicine Lake Lutheran Church. She stated she wou% also like to see the project expedited. Chairmian Plufka introduced Eugene Enderlein of 4600 Hemlock Lane, Mr. Enderlein did not comment. Chairman Plufka introduced Bruce Flessner of 4115 Balsam Lane. Mr. Flessner did riot comment. Chairman Plufka introduced Melanie Flessner of 4115 Balsam Lane. Ms. Flussner did not comment. Chairman Plufka. introduced Paul Jasper of 11140 40th Avenue North. Mr. Jasper expressed his concern about the landscaping and lighting. R, asked what kind of lighting is beir) proposed. Coordinator Dillerud responded that per City practice, no light should leave the site in excess of the .5 -foot candle contour., iNlr. Rieschl stated that the low profile lights will remain on until 10 p.m. or 11 p.m. for safety reasons. Chairman Plufka introduced Jo, Ann Krafft of 4345 Oakview Lane. Ms. Kraft stated that she was in fay or of the proposed plan and would also 'like to see it expedited. 0 Planning Cowission Minutes January 24, 1990 Page 15 Chalrv..an Plufka introduced Len Riley of 11340 47th Avenue W, North Mr. Riley did not comment. Chairman Plufka introduced John Schlenk of 6640 Brunswick Avenue North. Mr. Schlenk did not comment. Chairman Plufka introduced Carol tleh-man of 11625 40th Avenue North. Ms. llehrmaq did not comment. Chairman Plufka introduced Gerald Woessner of 4200 Cottonwocd Lane North. Mr. Woessner stated he was in opposition to the proposed plan. He stated he felt his property value would decrease. Mr. Woessner stated that the screening on the west side is inadequate and that there is 115 fee- of no screeninr on the southwest corner. He stated tliat the proposed berm would allow run, -off water onto the resicents' properties. He added that the staggered fence would not provide security to the site or neighboring properties. Ir. Woessner summarized that the proposed plan and specVic structure is not compatible with the neighborhood. Chairman Plufka introduced Veryl Chihak of 4130 Balsam Lane North. Mr. Chihak stated he was in favor of the proposed plan., He stated he had talked with six prominent realtors, and five of them gave their opinion that the proposed plan would not decrease the value of his home. He stated that the proposed school only goes from grade K to grade 8; therefore, no wild high school students will disrupt the neighborhood. He further stated that there are other accesses to the residents' homes, and added that no matter what is built, their homes will always be at a higher elevation, looking down. Chairman Plufka introduced Bruce Flessner of 4115 Balsam Lane. Mr. Flessner stated he was in opposition to the proposed plan. lie stated it was too large a project 'to out on such a small parcel of land. Chairman Plufka introduced Melanie Flessner of 4115 Balsam 0 Lane. Planning Commission Minutes January 24,, 1990 Page lb Ms. Messner stated she agreed with her husband's statements, and aided that they will: be visually ,impacted by this proposal. Chairman Plufka introduced Len Riley of 11340. 470 Avenue North, Mr. Riley did not comment. Chairman Plufka introduced John Schlenk of 6640 Brunswick Avenue- North. Mr. Schlenk did: not comment. Chairman Plufka introduced Carol Wehrman of 1162,5 40th Avenue 11orth. Ms. Wehrm.an did not comment. Mr. Cvi.ck, the architect, and Mr. Riesehl presented pictures to the Commission of their selective cutting of trees on the ou end; of tine property, Chairman Plufka introduced Beverly Enderlein, the administrator of the proposed day school Ms.. hnderlela stat J that their endeavor is to be good neighbors. She set -ted that the boys and girls and their families have gado many sacrifices to get anis project underway, She stated Medicine Lake Lutheran: Church has gone to great lengths to have: adequate landscaping. She further stated that the proposed plan does not allow for growth, which Pledicine Lake Lutheran Church realizes.. Since there will only be 9 classrooms, Ms. Enderlein stated there will minimal noise on the playground. Chairman Plufka introduced Dennis Holmquist of 1.2648 73rd Avenue north. Mr. Holmquist stated he is a member of Medicine Lake Lutheran Church, and he is in favor of the proposed plan.. Chairman Plufka introduced Stan Nathanson of 116UC 41st Avenue Horth. Mr. Nathanson stated he is the president of the Mission Hills Homeowners Association, and he is in opposition to the proposed plan. He suggested the association continue o woxi, with the church uptil Oey reach agreement on the plan. Commissioner Marofsky esked lir.. Rieschl vvhy they have not changed the roof slope on their Site Plan as suggested at the last Pl&nninr Commission Meeting. NOW Planning Commission M';,.tes January 2, 1990 Page 17 Mr. Rieschl stated tti'aat they have 'xooked into other options, Is but their Building Committee has determined that the sharply angled roof ;iould be in character with the neighborhood. He further ,tzited that turning the building, as -,u tested at the last Planning Commission. Meeting, would pro.tde greater visual impact for the residents to the west than it does as now proposed Commissioner Marofsky asked staff if there was any kind of provision for maintenance of the fence, trees, and berm Coordinator Dillerud responded that there is no provision beyond perservation of the the actual screening to comply with the Zoning Ordinance.. Commissioner Marofsky stated his concern that the fence,. trees, and berm could become an eyesore if not maintained. Coordinator Dillerul responded that it wouldbe possible to require continued maintenance of these items as a condition of the Conditional Use Permit, but that it would be very difficult to administer. MOTION, by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Chairman Plufka, to recommend approval of the request by Medicine Lake Lutheran Church for a Rezoning, Site Pian, Conditional Use Permits, and Variance ,to construct a place of worship and day school located at the southwest corner of Zachary Lane and Old Rockford Road, subject to the conditions set forth in the staff report of January 16, 1990. MOTION by Cor;missioner Zylla, seconded by Chairman Pluftka to amend the main motion by adding a condition that the petitioner must conform with the Zoning Ordinance as to screening at the south side of the proposed site. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. Commissioner Wire abstained. MOTION' carried. MOTION, by Commissioner Zylla, seconded by Commissioner Marofsky, to amend the vain motion by adding a condition that limits the day school enrollment to 175 students, grades K - 8.. Chairman Plufka stated that he was concerned that the Planning Commission would be stepping into State Law if they approved such an amendment, He stated that he does: not see the necessity of such a limitat-*on. Commissioner Tierney asked, the petitioner what would be the maximum number of students proposed. Ms. Enderlein responded that Medicine Lake Lutheran CbUrch has a resolution stating that they shall not exceed 225 MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION. TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION. CARRIED MOTION TO AMEND Planning Commission Minutes January 24, 1990 Page 18 students for enrollment.. She further stated that they presently have 198 students enrolled. Roll Call Vote. I Aye. Commissioners Pierce Tierney, Marofsky, Stulberg, and Chairman Plufka Nay. ;,jmmissioner Wire abstained, MOTION failed. MOTION by Commissioner Zylla seconded ky Chairman Plufka, to amend the main motion by adding a condition that limits the day school enrollment 'to 225 studen-1--,, grades K - 8. Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg and Chairman Plufka Nay. Commissioner Wire abstained, MOTION carried. Commissioner Stulberg statea he will vote in opposition to the proposed plan. because lie felt the petitioner has not fulfilled the requirements of Standard Nu. 3 of the Conditional Use Permit standards because of the massive roof height and the poor landscau!` plan. Commissioner Zylla expressed his concern with the roof structure., He stated it serves n:) purpose except for form, and that the roof line should be broken and lowered. Commissioner Marofsky stated he was in agreement with Commissioner Zylla, and will therefore vote in opposition to the proposed plan. Roll Call Vote on main motion. 3 Ayes Commissioners Pierce, Marofsky, and Stulberg Nay. Commissioner Wire abstained. MOTION failed. Cheirman Plvfka stated that he felt the proposal noes not violate the Zoning Ordinance,...and he does not di --agree with itsuse. 01*11aissioner Marofsky stated that his vote was not against the use, but he felt the site was inappropriate for the building structure. Commissioner Pierce stated he, was in agreement with Commissioner Marofsky, and stated he felt there was too much roff mass. Chairman Plufka called a 5 minute recess at 9:55 p.m., Chairman Plufka resumed the meeting at 10:00 p.m. Chairman Plufka introduced the request by John DeVries for a Lot Division/Lot Consolidation and Variance for Wild Wings Addition located at 4925 Valley Forge Lane, Chai;-man 1'lufka waived the- overview of the January 18, 1990, staff memorandum. VOTE - MOTION FAILED MOTION TO AMEND VOTE - MOTION C tRRIED VOTE - MAIN MOTION FAILED JOHN DEVRIES/WILD WINGS ADDITION (89101) Planning Com rission Minutes January 24, 1990 Page 19 Coordinator Dillerud stated treat the City Council has already approved the street vacation o" 490 Avenue North* MOTION by Oommiss-ones Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner Wire, to recommend ap Yal of the request by Bohn DeVries for a Lot Division/Lot `'onsolidation and Variance for Wild Wings Addition located at 4925 Valley Forge Lane, subject to the conditions set forth in the staff report of December 5 1989. Vote. All Ayes. MOTION carried. Commissioner Tierney discussed with the Planning Commission the staff menorandum that was presented with the agenda which uescribes the sign issue related to Miles Homes; on Nathan !;ane. She noted that Mmes. Homes had requested a second nameplate sign due to the substantial distance between their "main frontage" on Highway .169 and their a-tual entrance on Nathan Lane. It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that no basis existed: to consder wendment to the Zoning Ordinance to accommodate a second nameplate sign for %ices with multiple street frontages. Chairman Plufka, appointed Commissioners. Tierney, Stulberg, Plufka, and Dire to the Task Force Study Committee on the Official Controls Element of the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Wire was appointed Chairman of the Committee. Community Development Director Tremere advised the Cam `.>4ion that the City Council had formed a Task Force to study the issue of oi,+door storage at retail locations, including gasoline service stations. Commissioner Marofsky had been appointed by the Mayor as Chairman of that Committee,. Commissioner Pierce was appointed, and Commissioner Zylla, as requested, wes the alternate. Commissioner Zylla indicated that due to business commitments, he would be unable to participate in meetings of the Official Controls Committee, but that he would desire that his concerns with regard to removing any penalty for a developer to down guide his town p,.opQ,ty, and to what he considers to be excessive Fire Code requirements by ;..a.°*ity of Plymouth be coi.yidered Chairman Plufka adjourned the meeting at 11 p.m. MOTION TO APPROVE VOTE - MOTION CARRIED OTHER BUSINESS