HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-13-1989CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 13, 1989
The Regular Meeting of the City of Plymouth Planning Commission
was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
14EMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Richard Plufka, Commissioners Joy
Tierney,. Larry 114jarofsky, Michael Stulberg
Dennis Zyl a, Hal Pierce and john Wire.
MEMBERS ABSENT: done
STAFF PRESENT: Coordinator Charles Dillerud, City Engineer
Dan Faulkner and Planning Secretary Jackie
Watson.
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg to approve the minutes from the August 23, 1989
meeting with the following corrections:
I. On Page 211 the (notion to approve the August 9, 1989
minutes was made by Commissioner Marofsky instead of Comm.i-
sioner Stulb rg.
2. On page 222 the motion regarding Area 39 was for "denial"
instead of "approval:".
VOTE. 6 Ayes. Chairman Plufka abstained. MOTION carried, VOTE -- MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Independed School INDEPENDENT SCHOOL
District 284 for an ' Amended Site. Plan and Conditional Use DISTRICT 284 (88035)
Permit to eliminate screening of roof top mechanical units on
Plymouth Creek School located southwest of County Road 9 and
Vicksburg Larne.
Coordinator Dillerud reviewed the recommendation of staff in
the August 25, 1989 Staff Report.
Chairman Plufka introduced Mr. Stam Tikkanern, representing the
petitioner.
Mr, T7kkanen stated that he took issue with the staff
recommendation that the rooftop units be screened to buffer the
noise from the units. .le said that the screening would not
change the aesthetics of the building. He also reported. that
testing the school district had cions did not exceed the MPGA
levels.
Coordinator Dillerud stated that the visual effect is not an
issue for staff but that the Ordinance is specific and states
that perceptible noise is the issue.
Scott Rudy, ,a consultari ,, -he school district, stated that
none of the compre,.3sors wound be r1inning when the building is
unocckipied, He d so said that oniy the one fan in the
gymnasium will run intermittently at night
SteveDe Oster, EOS Corporation, explained host many of the - heareas" areas surrounding ve school were buffered from the noise by
the architecture of the building
hal, Man luka,stated that he lived n the neighborhood andhad
not heard any noise from the rooftop unit,
omrlssJoner Irofy asked; if the original plans included the
screening of fire rooftop units.
Mr., De oster stated that they did.
Chair -ran Plufka opened the Public Hearing.
There was no one present to speak on the Issue.
Chairman Plufka closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner dire stated that since there was not full
information on the noise levels under varying conditions, the
Pl;ann ng comtl.nssion most he consistent with the Zoning.
Ordinance reguli rement..
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Stulberg MOTION TO APPROVE
to recommend denial of the request of Independent School
rstr ct 284 for an Amended Site Plan and Conditional Use
Permit to eliminate screening of roof top equipment on PImouth
Creek School
Commissioner Stu l berg stated he fel t the Commission must be,
Consistent with the standards applied to other devel prent ..
Commissioner M rofsky stated that the proponent needed to prove
that it meets the criteria with test data if they, want to
xclude the sceenng of the rooftop units.
Commissioner Pierce asked if the school district 'would need to
apply' for an amendment to exclude the screens if they could`
prove that the met the Ordinance requirements for noise.,
oordlnator Dillerud said that they would have to core back. to
the Coul"11ss Ton i th anamendment to ,he Site Plan.
Commissioner Z, lla stated that noise levels need to be enforced.
but staff' could rely on enforcement by waiting to see if
problem e ists
doll Call Vote. 6 Ayes', Chairman Pl of a , Nay. MOTION carried. VOTE MOTION CARRIED
Chairman. P l of a introduced the request of Hazelden Foundation HAZELDEN FOUNDATION
for a,, Amended Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan located at
11.505 36th Avenue North,
89 70
Coordinator Oillerud reviewed the August 25, 1989 Staff deport ,
Chairman Pluf a introduced Mike Schiks, Program girector,
represeot* g the p titioner
Vote.7 rr A VOTE MOTION CARRIM
Chairman Plvfka introduced the reque tofenn plin Coonty for'a HENNEEPIN COUNTY" (89074)
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completed there world no longer A need U Ingfortherot
stat i"on.
Commissioner "Stulberg asked if a traf fie, study badbeen done.
Engineer a"rrr a traffic study was not donoity>
because the impact of 20,trucks per day wo It e min "mal
Chairman Plufka opened the Public -Hearing.
ha,r. P lufk Fii 3 oi,44+4:i. 3 f' .C?oyr i a i"l i.3a 3 of '"`Y S 23rd
Avr nue North
Mr.'Palmer stated that he owns two buildings adjoin, fng 1's
sIt* He said he had no opposition to th's petition at Ire
presenttime', and would be observing the operation for six.
months before he would be, able to make a final Judgment.
Chairman I uf ka o I osed bo` Public hearing;
OTreIOCommissionernnmisserulber , r Wasecondedborrsr n MOTION TO APPROVE
to ro o rmi nd approval (if this petition of H nno in County for a.
rrrr I for ## n; r rrr iicroi4rg sus ioi ,
subject, to the conditions listed in the August 21, 1989 Staff
Report.
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OTIO4 by COMM sslonor Marofsky, seconded by Coa)mission r
Pianos to add` a condition that states that the site gust b
kept free of all debris and deposits.
Roll Call Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION oarr'od QCTE MOTION CA PI O
Commissioner Stulberg stated that he voted for approval of this
i an only, because "h felt a negative vote etas not fbo gay to
stop thli5 situation
commissioner Marofsky stated that be would rro -e against: the
reran motion for this, potition
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because be objects to, the,
excessive waste of taxpayer money beim Used' for this proecil
He said that taxpayers should call the County Commissioners and
state their objection.
Commissioner Wlire, said be agreed with the a gesticin by
Commis s I oner Marofs ky that they contact, the Cour'ity.
C: if they feel taxpayer 'dollars are be1nfg wasted or.
this subject,
Commissioner Pierce stated be wou Id support the petition mainly
as a one '*en e for the trucks In the. Plymouth area.
Poll Call Vote. 6 Ayes, Commissioner Marofs y, Nay# MOTION VOTE MOTION CARRIED.
carried,.
Chas rman P Uflka introduced the request of Lily E., Po :c eman for LILY GEM (890 7";
a Lot Division located north of C I Place, and east of
Zachary Lane .
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Vice ChaIrman Stulberg introduced Zoning Ordinance Amendment ZONING ORDINANCE AMEND -
ox 4. NO. 4
Conislon members diad no ges°tions for staff on thislissuex
Vice Chairman Stulberg opened the public hearing
There was no one present to speak on the issues,,
Chairman Stulberg closed the public hearing.
OTO by Comm s ner Miro, seconded by Commissioner Zyl la, i{ TION' TO APPROVE
o recommend approval of Zoning Ordinance Amendment No. 1,
as recommended by staff
Roll Call Vote. 0 Ayes:. MOTION carried. VOTE MOTION CARRIED
MOTION by,Commissioner arofsky, eLonded by Com is ion r 0T IOO APPROVE
Zyl 1 a o stable Zen i nq Ordinance Amendment o 2 f or
redrafting by staff ,tate that windownae nod
exceed 30 Percent of tie window; and total signage,
including ,window,signage, shall not ex0ed 8 percent of the
wall area.
Director Tremere cautiloned the Commissioners that they wool d
be setting up the potential !-)f inequality, even within a
shopping center.
Roll Call Vote* b Ayes. MOHON carried. VOTE MOIT OtlCARR ILO
mmissryner it e, seconded CommissionerMOTIONbyCommissioner MS;ION.OPROVE
Tierney, o recommend approval of Zoning Ordinance Amendment
o, 3, as recommended by staff subject to the rewording in
new i emnumber to road. 1' garage" not "nc e r b i l di n "
p i e
Roll Cal 11 Vote. Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE MOTI(N CARRIED
flOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
arofs y, to recommend approval of Zoning Ordinance
Amendment No. 4, as recommended by staff.
Roll Call Vote, b Ayes, MOTION carried. VOTE MOTION, CARRIED
Vice Chas rr an Stul berg introduced the request of L.A. Laukka LAUKKA.%PARY R LA ,,.
Development Company for a P00 final plan amendment ADDITION (8906 7)
Vice Chas -man tulberg waived the overview of the August 14,
1989, staff report.,.
Vice Chairman Stulberg introduced Peter Jarvis, representing
the petitioner.
Mr. ary 1. s stated he was in agreement w1 t,.h the August 14,
I89, s4,aff report and had no comments
MCATION by Covoisslonertulherg,seconded by Commissioner Wire MOTION TO APPROVE
to recommend approval of the petition of K & it Construction for
a Lotdivision subject to the conditions listed in the August.
089 Stat Report=
Vote, Ayes,,,,Commissioner Marofsky. abstained, MOTION VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
carried
Cha introduced t request o Trammell Crow for a T AMMELL W -R," Y-
ite Plan, tot Division and Lot Consolidation °dor Building F" INDUSTRIAL PARK BUILD11fi
located east of Xenivnj -Lane and aortli of 6th Avenue. F (89073)
coordinator Dillerud reviewed the August 1, 1989 Staff Report*
Chairman Plu ' a introduced lair. Bohn Griffith and Ms., Linda
Fisher representing the petitioner,
Ms. fisher stated that the petitioners agreed with the August
1., 1989 Staff Report.
Dar rman pl ufa introduced Mr. Arlan Ashbaugh of 795 Sycamore
Lane,
Mr. Ashbaugh, stated that he owned a home to 1,he east of t s
property and his concern. was that a buffer, be created o si,ieid
hx.; property from his site. lie also .asked what he building
would he used for.
r i airman pluf a asked the peti, Io -ter the ,b I ht of the proposed
bu A Id }TRS
Mr. Griffith responded that the buildinLg would he 28-29 reef,
and would he used for Light manufacturing.
Chairman pl u a nt rod paced Mr. Chris Ea l ers of 6.15 Sycamore.
Lame
Cir. Lilers started that he felt more aesthetics needed to be
applied to the east side of the building to make it .pleasing
from; Sycamore Fane, and,be 'was concerned about the lighting on
the east side of the building,.
Mr* Griffith stated that there would be no I i g1l,"7ng on the east
side of the hu^ilditig.
Mr. Erlers a;k,d if any of the existing trees could he removed
froju the 300 tool. easement
Coordinator Villerud stated that only development was
prohihted, If trees become damaged or diseased they. could he
removed.,
omoiissiover Marofs y stated that he would have difficulty
voting on the petition because of the pending vacation of
easements
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Chairman, Pluf a stated that vacation of easements was not an
ap.propriate review item for the Planning Commission' and is
handled by the City CoupdL
otmitissioner, Zylla stated his concern for the east elevation of
the project, and :Wld he would like, to see more Colorado spruce
trees used on this side of the, building.
Commissioner Wire stayed he concurred with Commissioner Zylla
for more buffering and the use of coniferous gees on the east
side of the building for buffering
MOTION by Commissioner WAm, seconded by Commission Stulberg to MOTION TO A11PROVE
recowumend approval of the Ito Plan, Lot Division acrd Lot
on Sol lda ion for Tra ipel l Cr=ow "Building " subject, to -the
C on li ions listed inr the August ; 1, 1989 'Staff Report,
OTION b airman P ufka, seconded by om issioner tulber MOTIONTO AMEND
o add a. condition to the recommendation that the developer
4 111 substitute coniferous, trees for deciduous gees along the
east :side of the structure and a reasonable attempt be made,
along with the natural terrarn, to buffer the pro er nes that
lie o hr 3Aea
Roll Call Vote. 7,Ayes, MOMON carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Vote on Main Motion. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE° - MOTION CARRIED,
hairran Pluf a again introduced item 6 A,
No one was prmesent, to represent the petitioner on,, herrn 6A#
MOTION by Commissioner . t lherg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Tierney to carry forward the pet 1 1on of L,ly ,, Roggeman t
the September 27, 1989 Planning CoMmISSIo" Me Arte
ote. 7 Ayes MOTION carried. YOU M MO`L CARRIED
Coordinator D711er ud told the Commissioners that ;the Pares and
I%ory Igsepar went has requested a me ting , it the PlanningRecreation
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Chairman Pluf a, with Comm 5s i on approval, stated thea the
Planning Commissioniwould <meet i h Lb ar lis d
Department after the next Planning Coiwnissicn meet rr on
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19895 at 9:00 p.m.
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be discussed at the stud secs non will ire A SU f Pr Wn tri 1a
and resolutions; the Metropolitan Cow 11, Staged Gr o*ih Are=.
the hiring of a consultaot t `pork ort tile ;
and other Items of concern, or., Imre pe
meet #"nom+ q : ,u ne : t 10* k@ ,:, om.
Mr. 8ehlrer stated that he felt the 10 foot easement could have'
a negative impact ori the structures to be bui It on the lots.
City Engineer Fainkner stated that if the easement would be
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needed it was normally required from the parlay that first seeks
o develop property in an area.
MOTIOU by, Commissioner Marofsky, seconded to Commissioner MOTION, TO A14END
Stulberg to amend the Motionof Susan Tippets for a Lot
Division and Variance that the easewent be, 16 1/12 feet on the
southerly edge of the propert'v,on 23rd Avenue North instead of
10 feet.
Roll Call Vote on the Mot =r on to Amend. 4 Ayes, Commissioners VOTE- MOTION CARIE
Wire,; Pierce and Ohalrman PIufka, stay. MOTION carried on a
vote of 4-8 r
I Vote- on Main 'Motionion as once amended, 7Ayes MOTlOti carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Paul and Gladys, PAUL GLADYS KARINIEMI
Kari rrir emi , for a Lot Division ; and Variance located at 508 89071)
Pi rrev i ew .Nano North.
Chairman Plufka waived the overview of the Augusts 25, 1389
Staff Report,,
hairman Pl of a i ntroduced the petitioner Mr, Paul Karl, n i ead ,.
ir on Yr ar asked the petitioner why e r efittom P
1i1:: proposed
division id not extend the division line straight bacl;
Mr., Karin4eml stated ghat the east end of the property was open
and would make a nice buildin-9 site.
MOTION by Cotta is loner Stulbergi seconded by Coni is s i on er W I re MOTION O APPROVE
o recommend` approval of the petition of Paul and Gladys
ariniemi for a Lo Oivisio arra Variance subject to conditions
l is ted in, the August 2, 1:989 Staff Report,
Vote 7 Ayes.: MOTION carri ed r VOTE- MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Plufka introduced the request of Dons rut ion K & D CONSTRUCTION
for a Eo Division Variance located a % Zinnia Caney 89072
Ohalrmao Plufka waived the overview of the August 21, 19a9_
Staff Report
Chairman Plufka, introduced Mr. Daval d Kosmecki of 505 North
fghway 169, Suite 108, representing the petitioner.
Mr. Xosmecki stated that^ be was in full agreement yoith the
August 1, 1988 Staff Report and that a new survey, had been
subm t1ted that el im nates the variance,