HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 08-23-1989CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
AUGUST 23, 1989
The g r gee- ng o the Cay Ply ou h i l annl n
MCommts,.%ion, Meetingwas called to order at 7:30 p r
MEMBE S P S NT*-, Commissioners Joy Tierney, harry Marofsky,
Dennis Zyl1a, Hal Pierce, and John Wire..
Commissioner Michael Stulb-erg. arrived at
r3 P.
MEMBERS ABSE 1'* Chairman Plufka
STAFF PR S NT$* Coovdi nater Charles Di 1 l er od, City
nrai neer Dan Faulkner, Corou111-y
Development Director Blair Tremere and
Senior Clerk/Typist Denise >t angrier
MOTION by Commissioner Marof sky, seconded by Cor mi's-sioner MOTION T(" APPROVE
Tierney, to approve, the minutes for the August ' , 1989,
Planning Co m ssion Mee ing subject to the following Change:
On page 204,paragraph i, the MOTION by Commissioner
Marofsky that: only one secondary ;; monument be allowed on
Northwest Boulevard for Sign Consultants was seconded by
Commissioner Aire.
Vote S Ayes Commi sioner ylla abstained. OTIO VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
carried,.
Acting Chairman Wire introduced the request of Pump and PUMP AND METER SERVICE,
leererS Ice, Inc., for an amended Co;adr tonal ase Permit INC. (89040)
and. Site °Plan, to, relocate the plump aslaad, dispensing diesel
fuel o the west; side of the property located at 10910
Highway '55F
t.cord rra o f I er+td i. an over i *. w of the 'ml s 1,
staff report,.
Coord*nator llerud noted the receipt o a w* bd al
letter by the pet ; i over and the verbal request by the
petitioner to withdraw that. letter*
C l ssioner Zylla asked; staff what the distance was, f rom
Ankh
1 h Avenue o the north access point o South Short Privp.
Coordinator 0111erud responded several t.
s
Mr.'Giebenhain responded that built the rip fAirther
because of the ,slope In the back,
T by Commissioner ar f, y to recur Arend denial anMOTION
amended PUD Plan and Conditional Use Permit for .A.G.
builders for, a garage addition located at'3375 Rosewood
Lane
action fail ed for rack of a second. MOTION FAILED N
COV9
MOTION by onimissioner Zyl a, seconded by A:tirr Cha rrr an MOTION' TO APPROVE
ire, , to reee mend appre al an atrren ed RPUD Plan and
nd tT enal Use Permit for ARA > , Builders for a garage
ddition located at 7*5 Rosewood Lane.
l Call Vote. 4 Ayes. .oMMi s`si over far f day, MOTION t VOT MOTION CARRIED
yL y yr [
aj carr ied.
Commissioner Zylla stated that he did net feel good voting
An favor and that(the[ Plannin Comtjris 'err exercisessub
ystated
eetilvtty cin a case-b -case basis.
Actin Char r ran ire introduced the request O the ty of P# YMOU H CENTER "
Plymouth for a Mixed Planned Unit Development Prelimin ry ADDITION (89063)
Plan and Conditional Use Permit amendment, Preliminary Plat,
ezan ng, PUD Penal }plan, and Penal Plat
Cbordlnater Dillerud gave an overview of the August 14t
1989, staff report
Commissioner Marofsky asked staff why they are proposing the-
publac 11bary
Coordinator Diller d responded it is being proposed as a PUD
Concept and General Development Plan element, not a Si; e
Plan.,
Acting Chairman Wire introduced Pied Moore,, Director of
Public Works, representing the Petitioner.
ommo si cher l arof ky asked M=r-,' oore why l-ots and '4 are,
broken up into parcels of odd ,configuration.
r .. Macre stated they propose to ncorpe ate all lits n
what was thought to be a general development plan. Tie
Mated the lot d r vis' ns of the preliminary rm nary plat andf rral
plat wasdue tothe school district and sewer district
bouadarip
Commissioner Karefsky asked Mr, Mooreif it would be
l e t classify those lots l#
f
poss / Vc t( " r r'.
s.t.angrrer stated drat, she felt the property owner's notice
fiNas misleading she thought the Community Center building
wo lr( cover tehe e t re sI e acrd was concerned about the
heavy wooded area,, She asked staff why they did not mention
anything abort zoning.
oord nater i l erud slated that they are only deal i ng wi ter
Platting and not zoning except for a sma.lI "housekeeping"
zoning grange.
r Martin overy f ear of the l andscap '.ng, plan. He
stated there would be a connecting path between the City
Hall and the Community ,Center. He stated their plan way to
retain most of the trees whi cb will create buffer to the
north. Mr. Martin stated they would plank tiixture of
plants and wildflowers for seasonal uses,
Acting Chairman Wire close( the public bearing.
omrm"ssioner Marofs y questioned Mr.. Moore on tyre reduction
of sower capacity as the resulj t of the use change proposed
and plans for a fire lane.
Mr. Moore responded that the ommun ty Center will generate
less sewage flow, but there will be sizeable utility foes.
e further stated that the, fire lane will not extend to the
back of the building due to, the grades and free preservation
efforts, but there will be stand pipes and a, sprinkler
system'.
Commissioner Zylla _,mmented that this fire lane plan is the
best he has .seen in o8dor a year,
MOTION by 'Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
tulberg, to recommend approval for the 'City of Plymouth for
a Maxed Planned Unit Development Prel lminary Plan and
Conditional Use Permit amendment, Prelitrrirrary I Plat,
Rezoning, MPU Final Plan and Final Plat subject to the
staff recommended conditions modified as follows.- 1" Amend
Condition i to read comp l ance w1 t , the Tree Preservatl on
Policy and 2,' Add Condition g to delete the public library
from the site plan
Mr. Moore stated that the proposed. library1 to snow
H"Wepin County that the City of Plymouth does :have a place
to build a public library,
hryiµpan {i y.Mtoamend the main of i on IA.O# Wl by Acting Chairman MOTION TO AMEND deleting
proposed Condition gs Motion
failed or ac4 o a second, MOTION FAILED. SECOND
MOTION by, Cormpissioner Marofsky, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
to l berg, to amend the platting r omm nd icin to shin lots
end 4 as outlots
Roll Call vote to amend. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE TO AMENDD MOTIi
CARRIED
Roll Call Vote on main motion as amended Ayes, MOTION.' VOTE N MAIN MOTION
carried. AMENDED - MOTION CART
Acting Tr i rm n r recessed th inq 9 p,m. ,
Vice Chairman Stulberg reconvened the meetingat 9,038 p.mo
Vice Chairman Stulberg introduced the request of Howard and HOWARD AND t3 OLY OLSON
D solyn Olson for a Planned Unit Development- Pian and 9066
Conditional Uc.,o Parma amendment to Cimarron Ponds for
three season perch 10 feet by 14 feat,
Vice Chairman Stulrq waived the overview of the August 101,
19891 sad report:
ce hairm t0b rq introduced floward, and es ],n 0144
the petitioners.
Vice Chairman stu berg introduced Zoo -Ing Ordinance Amendment ZONING ORDINANCEM ND -
M tnT NO I
Commissioner Zy1ia asked staff if this amendment applies to
only the RUD or to ai I PUDE,
rector Tremere responded it applies to all'.
Ice Chairman S-tulberg ntroduced Zoning rdinance Amendment ZONING ORDINA AM g
no.# f M x t@0
Commissioner Wire requested clarification of the tear
window signage".
Coordinator gilierud responded anything oriented to the
outside is considered window signage.,
commissioner Zyila stated that this amendment was Council
mated and seems ie goes beyond what they were
soaking for., They were looking to control temporary signage
4id staff has created a permanent signage conditior).
Director Tremere responded that that was true to an extent,
He stated that the Counci lme rbers that raised the s were
concerned about signs 'n windows which can bebe
temporary because they often go up and core dawn.
vice Chairman Stulberg introduced Zoning Ordinance Amendment ZONING ORDINAN Ate U-
oM,missioner Zyll,a regvested confirmation of t1lre word
faces" on page 2, , number 24
Dl , °c or Tremere responded that the word "faces" refers to
any side of a structure.
Comml---*over Wre asked staff what other type of accessory
building or structure would there be, if it was not a garage..
Director fr=eirmere responded utility building, storage, porch,
gazebo. He stated the problem is that the, setback for
garages most be the sane as the principal hrr'iding arra the
case before the Commissioners is If the . mance should
allow. garages , e{ accessory buildings) to he closer than
50 feet.
COmmi ss' over Marofsky asked staff` what wr 1 be done along
restricted access streets as far as setbacks for fencing,
Director Tremere responded that if restricted access e 'Sts,
the part' rrray, have afoot high fence 7n that yard - ardotherwiseotherwise, it would not be allowed.
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MOTIOR by Commissioner dire, seconded by Commissioner ?ylla, MOTION TO APPROVE
to recommend approval of L.A. Lapkka Development Company for
a IPQ Final Plan amendment subject to the conditions
propo Sed by staTT,
ommissloner, Tierney questioned staff regarding the
precedent.
Coord tn.ator Dillerud referred her t acomment he had made
err the staff report with respect to number 2 where he
addressed the, issue of precedent.
Cotr1atis"t x;nner Mfarofshy asked staff if the only fence that
wcuid aot be conforming to the entire pian would be the
fence along 17th Avenue, Lot 9 to be 7 feet 4 incites versus
the 6 feet that staff is proposing on the other lots.
Mr. Jarvis resp nded that that was correct.
Vote. 5 Ayes, Commissicner Pierce abstained. MOTION VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
carried*
Vice Chairman Stulberq introduced the Land Use Guide Plan LAND USC GUIDE PLAN. MAP
Map Amendment No. 39, AMENDMENT 'NO 39
Coordinator Di l eruct gave an 'overview of the staff report.
fie noted receipt of letters from Russel Bouley and the
Missouri, Synod opposing the proposed. amendment
f OTI N by Commissioner Wi re, seconded by Comnti s over MOTION TO APPROVE
Pierce, to recommend denial of the Land Use Guide, Plan Map
Amendment No. 39.
Commissioner Marofsky stated that no erre ran anticipate
i ndostri al lard use. He stated LAR leaves It open.
Coordinator DiT1eruct stated that the lumber company is a
nonconfor r ncl use whir eth.r guiding.
Commissioner Zylla stated he supported Marofsky's,statement.
He stated that the lumber company can be a transitional use
and that the church would not be affected by the proposed
amendment.
Roll Call Vete, 3 Ayes i;ommi ssioners Zyl l a and Marofsky VOTE MOTION FAILS
and Chairman Stulberg. May. MOTION failed because of a tie SIE VOTE
vote-,
MOTION, by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Vice Chairman MOTION T0APPROV
Stulberg, to recommend approval o LAP for the Laird Use
Guide plan Map Amendment No. 39.
i3 Call Voce Ayes, Commi sioners Wire fierce `and. fZ l l y , VOTf - MOTION PAIL
Tierney May. MOTION failed because of a tie vote. TIE VOTE
Planning ommiss ion Plinates
August 23, 1
Pige 223
Vice hairy an tulber intro uced .and ase Guide plan Mai GbPLAN MAP
Amend inn No #1 .. AMENDMENT N { 31.
Coordinator Dillerod gave an overvi,ew of the staff report.,
MOTION by Commissioner Zyll a, seconded by Vice; Chairman MOTION TO APPROVE
to ber , to recommend approval of the Land Use Guide Plan
Map'Amendment No. 31.
Cowerii*ssioner Tierney access hand north cid this *
area will became difficult with tbis amendment, and that
dere' coin d be 'Pn e r1l t for IP on that basis.
C",ommissloner Wire stated he agreed with commissioner
Tierney's'statement.
Commi ss i one, taro s y stated that Peony Lane and
1ut -
ty Road
47 are major ccs' lector streets servicing the ai a Le the
north
Yate 5 Ayes. Gomori ssi crner Ti erney Nay. MOTION carried, VOTE MOTION CARRIED
I'
Choi rman .+ Stu tber introduced Land Use Guide Man Ma LAND U$r GNI A .PIP
w
Amendment No. 32, AMENDMENT NO.32,
Coordinator Di`lerud gave on overview of` the staff report
D-'{ry e cf y.
or Tremere sated that staff is net in suppur of this
amendment
MOTION by, Commissioner i ora s y seconded by Commi ss i oner MOTION TO, APPROVE
y'I l a, to ecommend approval of the Land Use Guide plan Map
Amendment for Area 32.
Commissioner Wire stated that if staff would define CS, he
would, be in agreement with this amendment.
Ra 11, Cal l Nate. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Wire Nay. MOTION VOTE Ql to A D
carried.
Vice Chairman Stulber introduced 'Land Use Guide purr 'flap LAND USE GU I DE PLAN MAS
Amendment N . 34. AM 140MENT NO. 34
oordinatorerud have an overview L be<sta report.
Com iss1oner .ylla questioned staff as to its
recomirendatien.
Criord n er crud responded that 34th Aveput* North and
Annapolis is the recommended boundary between -p an(] .. -.
Mr,, Griffith Avenue North ,and :Annapolis
Lane would not be a _good delineator. He stated it would
resu=lt in maxed traffic-. The sale of Plymouth Creek would
be a better delineator.
Commissioner Marxofsky stated that the best guiding for this
area 1 s 'based on deve 1 op en design,, Any ,changea s
inappropriat ltholq that design, The owner should file a
et,i o t re u based { on e1 men plan .
vice Chairman Stulberg introduced John Star: of 345O
ernbrodk Lane,.
MrAl Stark stated that he is a resident within this LA -3, and
P would come up to the back of his property, 1'le stated his
back yard would be a natural barrier because it is heavily
W oded, but it is still, LA -3 to Ili.
MOTIOR by Commissioner Zylla,,seconded by Commissioner Wire, MOTION TO POPROVL
to recommend approval of Land Use Guide. Plan Map Amendment
o Area 34, subject to a clear definition of the demarcation
between 11-1 and LA -3.
Rol T, dal I Vote 2 Ayes i'nlssi OT MOTION 'FAILED
Marafsky, and Vice Chairman Stulberg Nay. MOTION failed,
MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Tee Chairman MOTION TO RETAIN,
tulberg, o recd mend retaining the existing guiding in
Area 3
Vice Chairman 'Stulberg stated the' reason for this motion is
until they have the proposal in front of them, they cannot
decide what guiding is best.,
doll Call Vote. 5 Ayes, Commissioner Zyl la Nay. MOTION VOT - MOTION CARRIED
carried.
Vice hairnan tulberg introduoed Land Use Guide Plan LAND 03C GUIDE L94
Amendment No, 35a AMENDMENT NO 3
Coordinator Oillerud gave an overview of the staff report,
Comttnzssioner Pierce asked staff what the ;surrounding guiding
is at present.
Coordinator Diller«ud respondO thatit is currently LA -3,
but proposed to be regu7ded tc LA -Z*
Vice Chairman Stulbera introduced John. Griffith, of Trammell
Crow Company.
Roll Call vote I Aye* Commissioners Wire, Pierce, jTE NOTIOX FAILED
Tierney, Zyl l a, and Vice Chairman Stulberg Nay, MOTION
fal led.
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Vice airman MOTION TO APPROVE
tulberg, to recommend regu ding of Area 3 from CL to IP. "
Roll Call Vote, 5 A ,s..omrcr ss over Marofs y Nay. MOTION YOTE MU1ICN CARRIED
carried,.
No'action was required regarding, she Sign Consultants agenda
item,
MOTION by Comm ss-1 ones Zyl I.a, seconded by Cornrni ssi oner MOTIONJO REAFFIRM
Marofs y, to reaffirm the recommendation to the City Council
on Land Use GuidePlan, Map Amendment No. 1 to reguide north
of 24th Avenue and west of Dunks r from LA-2 to LA-1.
Vote. 5 Ayes, MUTTON, carried.. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
The meeting was adjourned at 11.::17 p.m,,