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Home My WebLink AboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-14-1988BIW " SEMMR 14, 1988 Meeting Planning,Ca mission was called to order at 7-:30 - IV Ca ua `r ,_ Tierney and Wire MIFF PM Harri zcxart -g neer` Cwt e L.]rR:k,,.lAg i~r+iM. TaTW Ti y#.4 M){TI ? `' Jy mass..o# neo seconded b{' z( jCj({ i ,.i ner WrX ` 'P Stu . r. yv.. rg, V,? bbt > r M minutes '".fiX +fKX is M/ MiW^ ' y{^ At .` urrka't jor jj asfoWa, changeMeetngw correctionst par motion d.L:'+}{. On M 'Camdss{... Yg, n 2 Li tion,r. ': that, .e 4 ,kA. .t e(vire 4.,iFthe 16ming Commission roke alinding that the officess ate with the In st:dal. district and at this mint in. omuld bef the P11zx gt! ; without kna Ag 1 Co sio old.' delegating to tyle r the do .en tio `of the compatibility of use, of r a. ' ° .. .. Tll . abstained :. FOTION Q t Q a reading f the )tewber I j q CC)RM ON PREL Repo wa I.7o i., 0%y.f8, 0M 3 AN (88,057) e':Ker'2a 'ordaienue, $,Ouths idem f h I his brother Jerry as owners - V..pmu h $hopp+ ing Cand enter em'" 7tt w hey aCent ;d a a X X l a!. g:5+; L.i that ..t 1r.7. .* d r t t Pry r oc t b the r at ( tO P iP . act, w41th t ' f! 'rte aA P i w, A k P Aw . i 1R wI M N ' M pp W N A M 10 IMF a t laming Carm ssion Minutes Set iiber 14, 19 Page 227, Inns are all built the sari way. i e ons y exception is sc-Tie are 2 stories an ethers am 3 stories Copra ssioner Yerofs y inquired of B'u'ff if anyone had checked with the Qua ,ily Tnn 1.rFqple to determine t ix percentage of en y an be herthperceive- anyy problems coordinator indicated that they have not. He added the in s ig tion was to check the Radisson. Im file for cor ditions for deferred paj::king, and no evidence of a deferral wan found. t m .ssioner ,%wfsky inquired if there were any problem With on street parking. Coordinator Dill.erud advised that the Staff was not advised of any problraiis r Cha:-rmn Pauba opened the Public Hearing. t. Stephan. Morar, 1 300 39th Avenue Wirth representing Flywouth Place, previously known: as ite Quality Inn, indicated that occupancy bels are down and that currently one of the nearby hotels is filing ba icruptcy. lieadded that the supply of hotel romans is far greater than the derend., 1 , Moran. indicated that adding. another 119 hotel r0 ms to tiie area would be detrimental to the existing hotels i Hr 14oran stated that they have one of the largest signs n the City and people st. ill have difficulty locating their hotel# Mr. bran requested that the Coinu .scion consider the ecoriorW to determine wether Plymouth really needs another bo el. a Chairnen Pauba advised Mr. moran, that the Ce mission does not get involved in econanicSr nor does the City Chairman Pauba closed the Public Herring 11ON by Cot"I'' dssionezr St .l berg r Seconded by CcoidSsiover WrIOK TO . P)P= Wire to approve, the hot Consolidation, Conditional. Use P *fit and Site Paan for Rei Pboof Inns. Inc . subject ` to the 8 Conditions as Listed by Staf f it natneer. Harrison suggested that the Camission add the zoxvdition Unt, the emergency access be provided BION by commissioner Plu ka, seconded by Comissior Wa-e VIOTION TO AMEND o add a Condition No,,, 9 requiringfiring Pied Roc f . Iffl1s to provide the temporary or ",knock dogm" access for e ergency vehicles rCA11 26th Avenue North. Roll Call Foto on Anendment to Main, Motion. 6 ,- yes . 2,DTJM NM ; TION G -ACarried, y,. Nkui X)TIO - :i.?i. PFOW T Planning Camiission Minutes Septbe 14, 1988 ago 228 Roll . Call vote on Main Notion as Amended Once. 6 Ayes. Ift I'M 1.37 ON is rioN carried. l M -- BOTION CARRI Chairman Pauba introduced the request by DLK Builders Inc. DIX BtxIME IM The reading. of the epte ber 2, 1988 Staff Report was MEDME,W TO P.PLD waivc:d.CCMITIMM USE PERW Chainnar Pauba introduced Dale Kemal, 9,756 Valley Forge lane, who indicated that they have read the Staff Report and agree to the conditions listed. Xr.. Keppel stated that they have a. letter from, the Jamestown Hcmeovmers Association that recc Gln. is the garage be allow, chairman Pauba opened the Public Hearing. There eras no rine present to speak on this item. Chairman Pauba closed the Public Hearing WrION by Comnissioner Wire, seconded by Co.ssioner Plufka 1=Iai 10 APPROVE to approve the amendment to the Residential Planned Unit Development Conditional Uze Permit, subject to the 3 conditions listed in,the staff W -.port. Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. k=ION carried.. VOTE, - W111GN CARED 1J3,4a i.'...116. n Pauba introduced eh -request .by meliin .R 3.4 %Sc.) s MELVIN SCBM1. The reading of the September 2, 1988 Staff Report was CONDITICML ME PERKITr waived. SITE FIANT AND VART 88102 ) Chairman Pau)a introduced melvin. Scbmid,, 1620 W 63rd Street, txce1siQr, M. Mr. Scud stated that he had read the Staff Report and agreed with the CoWi tions listed., Chairman Pauba opened the Public Bearl.n . There was no one present to Speak on the item. Cha mean Pauba closed, the Public Hearing. f MCN by Commissioner ;P.ufka, seconded by Ca missioner Wire IWIONI TO ApProVE to approve the Conditional Use Permit;, subject to the 9 C>ndltzanss sted inthe Septa"r 2, 1.988 Staff Report,, Com ss.aoner larofsky indicate- that even though i is getting tight Can parking at this location, the understanding is that the hours of the shops, other than restaurants, differs frCmn the theatres= Therefore, this center will not havequite tip sa p: bl s s ether' sites , Theshams parking with ether uses ,makes this different than perhaps other proposals, due to the different characteristics of theatres Planning C aud.ssion, Minutes Septeuber 14 r 1.988 Paces 22 OTIO i by Con-raissioner Ma .ofsky, seconded by Contiss%ner WTIODT W, AMEND, Stu: erg to Amend the Main Motion to include as a Condition MION the hours of operation set forth by the petitioner into the proposal. The hours will be Monday through Friday, 10:00 A.M. until 9.00 P.M., Saturday 10:00 A.M, until 8:00 P.M and Sunday 12100 P.M. until 6:00 P.M.. Roll Gall Vote. 6 Ayes. Motion Carried, V= TO AST MD yyWrI^a Rolf. ;. Call Vote on Main Motion as Amended. 6 Ayes. BION VOM ON MUN 140TION AS Carried.. AMENDED Wri(N Chairman Pe-.uba called: a 5 mute Recess at 8:54, SSS The Meed ngrsum at 9-00. F _ Cha?sman Pauba introduced: the request by Gory Begin. GREGORY BEGIN,- Comm ssi.oner mvfsky stepped down from the Commission on CONDITIONAL 1E PERM this item. The reading of the September 2, 1988 Staff FOR COTTON CUB report was waived ;r AMUSOVU CENTER R CUrIONWOOD PLA2At SHOPPIM CES ( 88099 ) Chain '' Pauba introduced ` the petitioner, Gerry Begin.. far. Begin: indicated that he had read the Staff Report and that he agreed to the 12 Conditions as listed. Connissioner Stulberg inquired about the hogs of operation. Mr. Began ,indicated that the ,hours are Monday through Thursday P.X. until 12--00 A.M., Friday 7 P.M. 12,fl t,/ ( y12: 0 until 1#00 .. Saturday 12»00 .C".'° , uXlt..,l J.:O{) CA.w and Sp ay 2:00 P.M. until 11:00 P.M. Coordinator Dillerud advised that the licensing specifies the lyours the es tablish not can be open Chairman Pain orx--nett the Salic Hearuig. There was no one present to spew on the item. Cha pan Pauba closed, th Public Bearing. CoiCmisvioner Plufka inquired if Mr. Begin felt that they had adequate staf f . n.. Beginindicated that they always have two people on and sometimes them: are 3 or 4 on. kends Commissioner, Plufka i,ng a red if Mr. Begin would fell responsible for it ona,.toring the parking lot when the other shops would he close . Mr Begin indicted that his father, v&a awms the shop °,tng center, Maashired 4 security company rho Will be present from 10 R 00 P .14. until .6:00 A.M. Plan ng Com€ni:ssion mutes September 14, 1988 Page 230 WMVION by Cos issioner Pauba, - econyled b Camdssior= r WrICN TO .APP ;: St d ,,rg to approve the Conditional Use J?ejmiit subject to the 12 Condition as listed in the September 2,r 198E Staff Report, Rola. Cali 'Vote. J- Ayes- - WrION Carried. V= - 1,=1C CARRIED. chairman Rtiuba introduced the rest by h1fred 14. ALS'REa M C ?,US' I'DI Clausnitzer, Coordinator Dillerud provided a. brief overvie,4 CONDITIUM USE PEMM of the Septeuber 2, 1988 Staff Report. MR, C A.SS 11 RE MUA ' AT SWPP i:NG CENM( 8$104). Commissioner Pl ufka incTain-'gid about the calculations used for the parking standards CoDrdi.nator Dillerud explained the formula which was used. Ccazmissioner Pl.ufka inquired if the length of stay"` was considered in the calculations. Coo motor Dillerud _ i-ndicate-d that it was not, but that such considerations wvre a part of the Ordinance prescribed parking ratios, Com is s loner Pluf3ka stated that it -: is d ff icult to +comms a place where you would sit _ and eat for 1 1./ hours with an ice crea n shop where you would sit for 5 or 10 udnutes . Chairman- Pau)a introduced the pe-t-ItIoner, fir. Alfred Clausni lung ccomission M3 njite September 14, 198 page ' 23 shop should be considered a xestauraat. Corrmissioner Wire emhasized that; this is what he too had stated S'd-ve-n lie had 1.3 de the MUon, Commissioner rofsky indicated that .he ,hay the same problem as Canissioner Stulberg with the regard to the Class 11 estaurant. Mat is the differer. 1:estween a Class 1 Mr.onalds Restaurant and. th L ice cream sho cnz ssioner Tierney irOicat d that she .did not want to deny n item on an assn. mon that there will be a parking problem Roll Call Vote. 3 Aye; Cawdsslone s Mam sk, Stulberg and I ON )FAIM QI Pau.ba, Nay. X)TION fails. Tiz IAM Wri(INComm ss on :r ,1'tulhb rg, seconded '` g.liitka to deny ENYTO11 the Con tlagal Use Peiatt t subject to the findings ; listed in the Staff Psport. Roll Call dote. 3 Ayes. ssione Plufta,r `,erney and VOM - IMION FlUTIS GI Wire Pay. TXE Wal: MON by Ccxwdssioner Marofs; y, seconded C=t s ior 10MON TO APPAM Wire to xecmrrend the Council any-nd the Zoning Ordinance AIXIINISTRM7M regarding restaurants in S2 and B3 Zoning districts to REMOMMATIW egp re a. Conditional Use Pejadt for any class restaurants in the shopping center, WHOM try Caa ssioner Plufka, secor4ed by Cc)nwisuioner Wire MTTON TO TABLE to table this item until a later date so that the a tim to think trough all of theCoodssionershave' ramif ications Roll Call "dote. 6 Ad s ;, )TION Carried # Chainran Pau3 a .ntrod=!ed the rest by Y'Ui Wang May. The M, reading of the September 2, 1988 Staff por was waived. Ly' CON ?U E ydµ¢ 1 88,1 I Chairman Pauba introduced 13 *111 Sievers, 21U6 Bradt St t, representing _the petitio rs, and Ms. :fax. Chu,. Ms. Chu indicated that thel glad read the report and they age to the Conditions .as listed t _,, appxovad, action. Chu added that: ehe bas a similar relstaurant, in den. Praixie and thexe are no parkal- qg PrOble-yrs, there; cotm,ssioner Wixe inquired what the peak hours at that restaurant. Ivis s Chu indicated the peak fx or for lunch were t 1: 0 .M. an may d te Y Xrhaure 4 , Q P . X. until12:00 gp yJw Pt4.. 1 Planning Conic ssion Minutes September 14, 198 Page 233 Caudssioner Phil a inquiredwbat percentage was consumed on the praase: ar d what percentage was carxy out. Ms. Chu catedd app oxiztely 40was consumed at ' the restaurant and 60% was carry out, Chairman Paula opened thm Public Hearing, There was no one present to speak on this item, Chairman Pam closed the Public Hearing. Vr1al by Coninissioner Stulbk;;rg, secondr.d by Caffriissioner kMIGN TO DENY arofs-ky frcr dsnzial of they, )nditional '(Ise Pett, subject to the findings l meted In the Statf Report. Poll Call vote. 3 Ayes, Cc unissioners 'Tie neyy Flufka a . VOT-r, - 4MI(A r7 WNay* TIM Wz Commissioner Wire indicated that he could not vot<-? to &-)ny s he d1dd, not feel that this use would generate pa Ojpo Hr. Sievers ir&!ated to the Cc rmzssz& ."4 that the Vk)y's have already* stared const ict o -a =,. .c;Wf had indi--cated that there ,,,,as ample parking. Com issi-Dnex' Stulberg advised der. rSievers to notify Counc."Ll regarding this Mr. Clausnitzer indicated that he had been told the same t1ungby staff. Commissioner Wire stated that these people are serious and there nessds to be a quick resolut ion . Oiairrran Pauba introduced the'request by Gary Pk- t 'auxe. GARY` M.alrman Pauba advised that this was a result of enforcementC MONA L USE PERKEr action and noted. that Mr, 8erthiaume was not present. FM HWE OCCUPATION' Chai ren 'Pauba. owned the Public Hearing. There was no one resent to speak on this item. Chair—n. Pauba closed, the Public Hearing. YOTION I by -Co rami stoner Wire, seconded Commissionermissioner WriON DAY Tierney, to xecoi nd. denial of the conditional Use Peri t subject to the findings in the Staff Re-tWx 011 Call. 'Vote 6 Ayes, WrI Carried. C= CCN C ED M BUSINESS Chax man Pauba introduced the request by Gene Paulson. The GENE PA.t./MMAIr la reading of the September 2, 1988 Staff Report was waived. D 1I$ ICV ` P, il call vote. yep AWOURAMEM to 4 07 P.M. g