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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 01-27-1988CITY OF PLYMOUTH PLANK COWISS10H KNOTES- JANUARY 272 198 hp Regaor 19eetinq of the Plymouth Planning Commissionn war. called to order at h 0 .P.M. MEMBERS PR SENT,: Chairman Stelgerwa].d, Commissioners, Stlberg, %yla, Pltfa, Marofsky and Pa bc h046CF15 ASSENT. Commissioner Wire STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Director Blair Tremere Associate Planner Al Cottingham Assistant City Englneet John Sweeney Planning Secretary Carate Wineman CONSE v AGENDA PRIME DEVELOPMENT MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner CORPORATION., REZONING Stu)berg to recommend adoption of the Consent Agead. AND PRELIMINARY PLAT 7Z VOTE.. 6 Ayes. ` MOTION carried,, VTHOTIOR CARRIED MINUTES. MOTION by Commil.ssioner Pauba. seCc t dect by Cammi s ones Stvlberg to approve the Minutes, of January 13',, 1988 with the following correctionst mage31 second paragraph, statement by Commissioner Wire, rather than Commissioner Stulberg and, Paq,, typographical 'error, corrected as stated by Planning Secretary, VOTE, S Ayes. Commissioner Plufka abstained. VOTE* 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. PUBLIC HEARING Chair -in Steigerwold introduced the request by the ; Plymouth PLYMOUTH HXSTO JCAL Historical S4ciety. Readiiig of the 3anuary 12, 1988 staff SOCIETY. SITE 9,1.E report was waived.LITTONA . USE Chairman Stei e.rwal.d introduced Mr R Haryey Schlebe$ representit' q 'Che Plymouth Histor ccal $ocl etyi Mr. s,?oieb.' had no questions or colnuerts` Commissioner Pauba inquired abort the location aF the build- uildi"g1.,9on the site, it was explained it would be slightly to ther rear and south of the existIng building. 14- Planning 'Comm tissIon Minu es January Z78,. 198 Chair art Steigerwald- Opened the Public Rearina €. as there was tea cr,,te Prr sent weak on this item, the Public Hearing wad closed. OTION by Commissioner- Zv11d, seconded by Commissioner MTTON TG :ROVE Marofsky to recom eod. ` approval o" the Site Plank and Conditional Use Permit for the Plymouth Historical Society, to allow the construction of ft. accessory storage bu ldir q, subject to the conditions listed in the j'i-ruiary 1?1 198a staff report Roll Call. Vote, 65 Ayes. MOTION carried VOTE MfflJON C44RRIED Chairman Stelgerwald Introduced the request by Richard RICHARD BRtIWKE Brokke, Powell Lincoln Mercury for Site Plan and,Conditional POWELL LINCCOL. Use Permit Amendment, heading bi the January 12, 1988 staff" W-RCURY, SITE PLAN report was, waly d» AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AME -ND ENT Chairman St igerwald introdm ed Mr. Richard Brokke; who h -3,d 87127) no aommerrts or concerns regarding the stai'f report. Commissioner t arofsky inquired if the petitioner would oppose his ` sitting for this item, as he is counsel for property Interests of adjacent property. 144. Brokke stated no; Commissioner tiarof ks.y inquired about tine landsdaping. Mrs Brokke stated that the b1tumirtous parking area would be Installed to tie- perimeter of the pond- additional trees will be placed around the pond to enhance the existing maple tref;s3' Commissioner Pauba inquired if the site circulation was working well he rioted that with the recent ,snowralrv,l , there seemed to be a need for snow removal, to improve parking and f eiroulation on-site., r. Brokke stated that snow. storage has impeded site el.rou ,on -_nmewhat and plans are underway for snow ri=oval , Chairman Steiqerwald opened the Public Heariftg,,. as there wasfa . no cne present to speak on the item, the Puolit Nearing was closed* MOTION by Corn ni ssioner Plu ka, seconded by Commissioner 01104 TO APPROVE Stul.berq to recommend approval: for the Site Pl4n and Conditional' Ilse Permit Amendment for Richard Brokke, Powell Lincoln Mercu; y, to expand the parking and vehicle storage lot, sobleat to the conditions a lasted in the January 1Z, 1988 staff report.. t Roll Call Vo te,: 6 Ayes. MOTION, carried. f VOTE -- MOTION CARRIED Page 1 Plas nlnq Comtri.ssio,i Minutes Oanuary 17 198 j Chairman Steligervtald Rn ot[uii`ed i hG^ requesti?a cl PatL t t'3ff i4 ' tL:i '(,vv i' a ij i-14 td Goff Homes fcr "Fernbrook Matior'", a '€plat for two lots for PRELIMINARY PLAT AM multi--fewi.ly dwellings gnu City park. An overview of the REZONING (87128) Oanuary 13, 1986 staff report was provided by Planner Cottingham,. Chairman ottinhat- Chairman Steigerwald, introduced Mr. Pat Goff,: Goff Homes'. I, who discussed the bar,,ground of the development. He state ne has built comparable units on the north and east side of St. Paul. He explained : that the units will, be marketed as owner -occupied, ThC major market. for "hese units will be single career people, and so-called 'empty-neStersil, with fewer family units they estimate 4 children per 1,00 households. He stated that In their experience, this ;typo- of homeowner would sel.e^t this Vnit- style and would choose to have passive' parkland close -by. The units are 940 sq. ft, to 1,100 sg fit.,, two-tedroom with private entry. The homeowner can gaia tantr, t'trough the garage The units have patios and/or decks and the buildings have aluminum and 'brick siding. ` Mr. Goff noted their com,,any has been selected for, builder awards. Commis i oner Marofsky inquired about the open, land area to be left in`' its natural state. Mr.. Coff stated they plan minimal grading -and the area will ha>>e an open field appearance. He stated the Parks and Recreation Department recommended a walkway through the wooded area that will connect to the C " t:y parkland. Commissioner Marofsky suggested that the units could' be, realigned to open up the development area..: Mr, Goff stated that the building layout is constrained by the 10 grades and by the area to the -east which would require extensive fill. He noted that further ]Go the east is land in the Post -1990 Service area. For these reasons, the building Layout is concen gated at- the west end Commissioner Plufka inquired if it is the developer's intent to, leave the open area to the east in ,its natural, "wild" state, ter, Goff answered affirmatively. Comrtti.ssioner Pl.ufka. ` inquired i,f there would be' a formal Homeowners 4Assooiation and would they own this natural area. Mr. Goff stated this would be the case. Commissioner Plufka stated concern about maintenance for this area and explained the } enforcement of the City's weed ordinance. He suggested that the developer submit something mere definitive at the time of 'final plat .submittal, such as some ;seeding and grading of the area... Coalrman St i9prwald opened the Public Hearing. pl.anninq Commission Nmutes, 3anuary 27, 1988 that ill set the tone and have a nonative impact on the values of all the homes in this area. Mr. Sevey ; stated he has hc_,. )ffers on his property and has turned then down. He docsn' t want to develop his .land at this time. He asked the Commission to carefully consider approval for a development which oouV "set the tans for low income housing". Chairman Steigerwald noted there are developments in the City where townhomes and more expensi.ve single family dwellingsto-exist in attractive planned ,pit developments Commissioner Pluf<ka explained that the land use quidincl, for the proposed dev elvpmeri t Is LA-3 (high medium density resident-.al.) to be rezoned to the pproprl.-te zoning designation of f1- (medium density multiple residence District. The undeveloped property to the south i 5'also quided LA-3. Discussion egsued regarding devel:opmeit alternatives within this guiding and zonirig designation, noting that development of tiro-family homes to 12-unit buildings are appropriate within the R-3 zoninq classification. Mr, Daae-Yunker, 4400 Glacier Lane, noted his special concern regardingproperly val ie H dares not Dela et=u this development plan fits into the neighborhood. He is concerned with 'traffic and noise; and; that the lot rsectian of Fernbrook Lane and County rjoad 9, is dangerous because o the present traffic levels. hairman Stelgerwald, asked Mr. Goff to respon-l. Mx, Goff stated that the cast of a unit would be approximately 60CCf He reviewed t` e names and locations of develop- ments th..-Y have completed that are similar to "Fernbroofc Manor".rhes>e are basically the same units and are 'open for viewin s Tn response to fir. Fischer's concern about drainage and transIti.otil her. Cofr stated they could propose cutting the hilly areal maintain a 30 ft setback from the north property line; and, :install berm nq fie had no Obser tl.o to placing. `over—story trees for screen,inq , 'the ponding', as proposed„ contai s the drainage on-site Chairman teagerwald inquired I„f,. Mr. Doff~ could imeet with Or, Fischer to resolve the concerns expressed. fir. "Goff answered affirmatively. f i a Page 1 a Planning Commission t-linutes 1 Janudry 27 IM C-ommissiarwr Plufka iixpired if the berm might upset the drainage plan. n lneer Sweeney stated he would need to review this to assure proper drainage ma ntenance and on- site storage. In respor e to the concern about public access. to the Gita park, Planner Cottingham explained the access from future Berkshire lane and the trail planned: from Lhe cul-de-sac to Vie park Mr. Robert. Sevey inquired abouts the current access to his property. Chairman Steigerwal.d inquired about the grading plans L, the south of the 5evey property, Mr. Hoff explained the area exol.oded from the gradinq plsartr they will out away from that area; they will maintain a 3t.1 slope - And, a 'retaininq wall will not be needed Mr,- -ny inquired if there would be some way to prevent p&, -pie usinq the park from cominq onto his propertyk Commissioner Plufka ,suggested he discuss this concern with the Parks and Recreation Department and/or the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission. Gayle Jones Inquired i ut the nature of development around hose areas devel,oned by Mr. Gaff in St. Paul. tai . Gaff stated 'that one development consisting of manor homes, h&a , a roadway, to the east to: the west is Department of Natural Resources Pretested. Wetland; to the north are single family resi.dential dwellings; and, the price. range of the single family dwellings is up to $150,000. North of another, are single famly homes- to the gest are townh mes to the south there is open space and ponding; and, to the east are single family homes.. Hr4 Jerry Fischer statod'he believes the City may have made an: error in judgment concerning the land use guiding for this area, He .inquired how a "mistake like this could be corrected." The City's. LandUse Guide Plan was displayed and: discussion ensued regarding changes to the Plan; the purpose' of the flan; and, the division of land uses with buffering provided from major roadways Director Tremere confirmed that the City's Land. Use Guide Plan 4 :fist, established in 1072 , and was reviewed again ten year~- later and found to be pproprlate. Residents have depended upon this information to ascertain future development '' and have relied` on the fact ` that development wil i be, consistent with the guiding and zoning.' Commissioner Zylla, inquired if the topographical features of the site dictate t:he l.avout. file believes, the plan could be more creative and would make the development more inviting. Pl:a; 1tlhg`omision hilutes January 27, 198 Planner Cottingham. exp4,ined th 4 plans would provide more detail with the rew-j.'red Sits plan'` and Conditional, Use Permit applications For this development Proposal MOTION by Comrisslzwarner € Lufka, secdht 4y Commissioner MOTION TO TABLE Zy.11d, to tab"- -f**Js; item v-J th direction that the applicant provide those -itIv, ',ions and mod.,i f lca tions to the plan, as discussed, pf for to ;approval of the preliminary plat,. Commissioner Zylla explained that his second relates to his desire that the ,)etitioner address the building layout prier to Site Plan review, Mr.. Goff stated that he has acquired the services of professi.ogal engineers dol architects a.n the preparation of the site layout and the landscape plans. They have provided a_ Layout that is appropriate for this site and for the opugraphy of the site. The development plan retains the timbered area to the east; the open area can be maintained l,n a natural state; the ;; pads will allow an easy lifestyle for the hog eownem The building layout takes advt 'itage of he topography of the , site. The use of berming and; over-story trees will provide transition and screening. Chairman Steigerwal.d- stated the Comp i is.:ioh will expect- the petitioner to provide through-sections for their review of the formal, site plan. Commissioner Marofsky concurred: adding that a detailed landscape and grading {clan should be provided; znd,,. revised plane should" reflect the direction fr^ Commiss.i.on regarding site design (utilization of the area and better building. layout) . Roll Call Vote on V40TION ' to Table this item. VOTE -- NOTION TO TABLE Nays. Commissioner Pluf ka, Ayes HO i --t0N fails. l ION- 6 AILS Dire^tor Tremere eyplained that the Conditio,na.t. Use Permit to be con$ldered with tt'.e Site Plan requires a Public Hering so tihat property owners will be notified at the time ore d(A.81 Led plans are submitted for review. Roll Call Vote on the Hain Motion, 5 Aye,,,. Commissioner VOTE -- MAIN MOTION Pl.ufka, N-ay. OTI011 carried. TION CIE' Chairman Stelgerwald called a 5-miriut.e recess at 6*55 P.M. RECESS lanninq Commission Minutes 3anuary 27, 198 Chairman Steigerwalu i §," ,-oduced the request by Beverly_ BEVERLY KOTTAS Sottas, t raterpr° Inc..Readingyin of the ivar t 13a T I 1968 staff report was wa ved f LAW, USE Wlff. PLAN NT 07125) Chairman Stelgerwald Introduced Linda Fisher,, Attorney, represer}tang the applicant. Ms. Fisher presented c,apies of an Outline Summary of the applioantls presentation-, and,, art Outline oP the B arton-Aschman t.raffis* presentation. These were made part of the record of the proceedings. j t s« Fist - explained this would be a two-part presentation i with Mr, Rosa 3ackscn, 13arton-Aschman, presenting traffic Information. Ms. Fisher provided the background for t:he application; that the principals are Plymouth residents, they own two busines- ses In Golden Valley and seek this Amendment so they m« have a similar business in Plymouth, She assureu they would provide long-term utnership SK~ explained a previous General: Development Mara from the 19701s; noting that though tKis is not a forow, for discussion of a developrCmetiL plan, it is important for the Commission to know that the petitioner would prof)ose the development of a con\eoience store with gasoline and automobile t*re and service center, if the request dor requiding is deemed appropriate. She explained this bi-i.ness woul a be a 17 -hour operation. Mss. Fisher eMphabd ed that the; applicagts are not speculators., they,; believe the reguiding of this prtoperty has merit for the coma unity. Ms Fisher reviewed the lard uses in , the area, noting that the development factors are -important to this discussion. Analysis of the area Should be gone on a case-by-case basis. She, stated haat an office "gateway" has not occurred w ;,ere, and, the ariea is not conducive to this; the area does show a mix of use and the applicant believes this site is, appropriate for their business-,. and. that their business would compliment the community strucl ure ` and would ar to the grouping of boniness s. already in the area., Ms. Fisher, havi ag reviewed the traffic studies for this area, believes there is no notable` impact -to the City's roadway system, which has been the main concern expressed by City staff. the introduced Mr. Ron 3acks€ana Barton-Asohman Associates,_ Inc, ter¢ Jackson described tragi fi(a studies dope in May,, 1987, November, 1987: and,, December, 1987 Their studies reflect no major` Impact to the intersection; and, the Ci.'ty's traffic consultant pointed out that Chez{e was no impact to peak" traffic hours L i a 1 Pl.annInq Commis lon Minutes actuary 27, 198 withinwithin..the current ostinq/lal structure would be for the: fee owner to place a covenant on the property l imitinq the land use Chairman Steigerwal.d read Vie ` !tter ;from Perkins Restaur- ants, a n lgnborinq lend owner, who supported the request. There was continued discussion concerning traffic generation and the other sites throughout the City which could accom- modate ccom modate this use. Dix\,: tear Tremere commented that the pro- 11 posed use would generate a level of new traps and vven if the percentaoe seems relatively laws the additional traffic from this site and ' potentially from area sites, if also. requided .in the future, would be detrimental: The traffic consideration should not be the sole determinant of;. the proposed amendment.; He said tba t. staff does not question the pet tioner r s ability to operate a suocessf`ul and desirable service business* The City made a conscious planni.r=q decision which has kept such land uses from the norttwest : uadrant of 1-494' - and Highway 55 the lack of such servic,. ` cili.ties in this i area is (Wdue to an oversight or to _::,ect of community nee Is, Mid; Linda Fisher stated I her client indicated they wculd b ! amenable 'to covenants which would prohibit crMrtain land 1 uses, such as Class 11 restaurants; ands that the ri.gt-i.n only access from Fernbrook Lane was acceptable. Site doubted tha t the requiding would resin t in an undesirable precedent and would not necessarily obligate the City to requi.de other land in the area. MOTION by Commissioner Plufka j seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMIEND Harofsky to Amend the Main 4oti,on to specify thatf the requid ng is conditioned upon the following consi,deratlons whzoh must be satisfied within the indicated temp frame;` a) Covenants limiting 'land uses to only the B-3 uses proposed, and to those B-3 uses which are also allowed ire the B-1 District-, b..) Access < from Fe nbrevk dam-, should be limited to right -in only and, 01*1 hours, of operation shall be limited to those indicated. discussion ensued regarding the Amendment. Chairman te1gea a1d ,said that the Matters of access and hours were more appropriately cnnsldr:r>3d at Site Plan retitit,-w, I, l_ . Page 24, Planning Commission Minutes lanuary 27, 198 Roll Call XMte on Amendment., 6 Ayes. MOT.IOR carried. VOTE ON WMMENT W i TON i ARRIED Roll Call Vote on Ma.n Motion as Amended. Commissioners VOTE - K_ ;N MOTIO Stulberg, Pauba, Marofsky,. and Plufka, Nay, Commissioner MOTION AILED Z y1la acid Chairman Stel(erYtal.d, Aye. MOTION failed_ MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky, seconded by Comm, issioner WJTIO 1 TQ DENY Stulberg to recommend denial of the Land Use i3ulde pian Amendment for Reasons fids. I - and No. 6 Cited in the anuary 15, 1953 staff report. Rolll Call Vote. Commissioners tulberg, Pauba, Marofsky, COTE - MOTION TO DE and Plufka, Aye. Commisslpner Zyl:ta ' and _ Chairman MOTION CARRII Stelgerwald, Nay. MOTION carried, Commissi.oger Plufka stated that if there were to be a requid, ng in this area, the City ,should study this quadrant as to hether CS guiding is appropriate and what the i apact, of the`' traffic generation from the area nould bp. C a,irmdn Steigerwald introduced the request by 1501 Partner- 1501 PARTNERSHIP shifor a. Site Plan and. Variance. Reading of t), -ie 3rtinuary SITE PLAN AND 131"-1988 stcaff report was waived., WLTANICE (87132-) Cha-.rm n Ste l erwald introduced Bruce Schmitt, Archltect,. representing the petitioner, He ` had no questions or 140T CN by, Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Chairman MITIW44 TO APPROVE Steigerwal.d, to recommend approval for the Site Plan and Variance to construct a 13,920 sq. ft.' office building,` subject to the conditions as listed ?n `the 3anuary 13, 198$ staff report. VOTE. 5 ryes. Commissioner Marofsky, abstained. MOTION VOTE - MOTION' CARR -TED carried BUSINESS PRIME IDEVELOPWNT MOTION ` by Commissioner P auba, seconded, by Commissioner CORPORATION Stulberg to recommend approval, subject to the cdndt ions. REZONING AND 1astd' In the JanuaryC 1$$ ;taf' report. PRELIMINARY PLAT MOTION TO APPROVE Vote. 6 Ayes. ' MOTION oarried. I VOTE - NOTION CARRIED The meeting adjou'rned a lOq3O P.M. .