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Home My WebLink AboutPlanning Commission Minutes 12-09-1987f CITY OF PL.YMOUTN PANNING Cell SSl0t4 141INKE, DEER 9,, ,1 987 Tic R alar *eeting of the P ymout Paanning Comms pion was, called to. order at 700 P.M. W EBS P SENT: Chairman Stelgerwal d,, Commissioners Wires Stul.berg, Zyl.la, Pl ufka,. Marofsky and P.a.uba MEMBERS ABSENT»; None STAFF VI RESENTw Community Development Coordinator Ray Anderson Associate Planner Al Cottingham Assistant City Engineer Oohn Sweeney MINE Its MOTION by Com iss.i:oner Stulberg, seconded .by Comriissioner Plufka : to. approve the Minutes of November, ;24, 19 as sLibmi tted .. PUBLIC HEARINGS Chairman Steig rwald introduced the request by: Ro,hert ROBERT "PT'UNGTON' Worthingtoli, Opus Corporation. A representative was. - not OPUS C€ WPORATIOM present` .to speak on this application. ` Thi it+a alyledtED SITE Pl AN until later in the meeting. i ITIONAI USE PERMIT (87119 ) Chairman Steigerw,:4d introduced the request by Midwest Brick MIDWE T BRICK do and Supply Company: Reading; of the December 2, 1987 staff SUPPLY Cowmy' report was waived.: REVISED SITE PLAN AMENDED COWITIONAL Charman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Dan. O'Brien representing USE PERMIT AND Midwest Brick and Supply. Mr. O'Brien reviewed the request VARIANCES (87118) and discussed -the two varlances, one: of whish: would allow paving up try the buildi,rq where four over -mead doors will be installed and thee,.. < will: be storage of materials in this. area. The second variance would allow the storage of bricks on an unpaged surface; arid, o allow a Class V gravel sur face as opposed to a paved surface for the drive. aisle. 0". cc embed that a condition of approval could be that the use of the unpaved surface could .be reviewod lo one year;.nd, if there were problems, thay would ttien be wiling to gave theL areas. Ne further aoted they, had reduced the size of the outside storage area Commissioner Stul.berg inquired if th,;Afy would be '' storing , ter'a als next 1'o the bL.,,ding Mr. O'Brien responded a.tfirmatively f . L S palge, . - Planning Commission Minutes Decmeber 9 198 C .s ner Pl f as!ce shy the brlok would be storedon a gravel surface. Mt. Murphy axplained that during the summex mon ths$ the asphaltmay soften in the heat and tends to break-up r th the cow--tant . urning o' the, fork, 1.ts; ands: the bricks tend to sin into the softened asphalt. CowxssiAvner Marofsky risked if staff had reviewed the s tor age of brick next to the building. Coordinator Anderson stated It, was his understanding that this area would be for laterials other than brick. The petitioner had dest:rlbed the area next to the building as, step -age for firepiaces and cat er me:;chandase sold by tine company which had. not beean described as including- bricks, Discussion ensued regarding 4he storage of materials next to the building and its impact on the site, Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearings as there was Flo one present to speak on the item, the Public Hearing was MOTION by Commissioner Stuloergx_ seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE Plufka fo recommend approval 'of the Revised Site Pian, Amended Conditional Use Permit and _Vara.ancea 'for' Ma.dwest Brick and Supply Company,. Green1;jn(' Investment,,' and changing Condition Vo., & to read. "The drive aisle between the stacked palie-:s for 'brick wi l be paved b May 3'-, f9W -and the ares m.ay o; used until that time with an "unpaved sur. a+ce". Condition No 15 ' was added to read: "Approval of the 100 ft. variance aDowing a 0 ft.. drive aisle setback on the east side of the building." MC?1L0 + by Co ., nissioner Marofsky, to .amend the .Main Motion, adding tao No. 16, to read: "A t., drive aisle shall be striped to shoe the l m.ts of the storage area., MOTION. died for lack .of second. MOTION by Commissioner PlufGca, seconded by ` Commissioner MOTION TO AFS Pauba to ame*.." the Main Motion oy changing Condition No. 6' to; read., "The drive aisle between the stacked pallets shall be gravel -based _and ` used for one, year, at which titme the City will inspect the site pria,` to the renewal a the Cndltional Use Permit",* CQmia si oner SCu bergnoted this amendment allows a gravel surface for approx1mately 1$ months and since any , approval by City Council would not occur until January, 1985, the drive aisles would not be paved until summer. Rolf, Cali. dote. 4 'yes. Chairman Steigerwald and Commis- WE r AMENDMENT alonea*s Stu!berg anrt Marofskv, Nay,Motion carried Y CA Rxk Pace 27 Pl, nninq Commission Minutes December 91 1987 140TION by 'Commis!Ioner Wire., seconded by Commissioner Pauba MOTION TO AMEND to amend the 'Maio Motion by deleting Coodition No. 154 Commissioner Zylla agreed since the request does not meet the variance criteria.» Roil Call Vote.. Ayes. Chairman S tee.; terwal d and: Commis- VQTE „- AW-MMENT si.oners Stulberg and Plufka, Nay. MotioY, ca'Zdried.. MOTION CARRIED Roll.. Cal Vote on Main Motion as twice Amended. 7 Ayes, VOTE - MAIN NOTION' LOTION carried._ MOTION CARRIED 01airman Steiger vvrald introduced the request by Opus Corpora-. ROBERT WORTHINGTOA tion; reading of the November 24, 19V staff report was: OPUS CORPORATION wa lved. REVISED SITE PLAN AND Cc jTIONAL USE Chairman Stelgerwaid introduced fir. Robert Worthington, PERMIT (87119) representing Opvs Corportion. Mr, Worthington had no questions or comments. Chairman Steigerwald ; opened the Public Hearing, as there axa,s no one present to speak on this item, the Public Hearingwas closed.; MOTION 'by Commissioner Pauba , seconded by Comn issiorier ' MOTION TO APPROVE Ptufka to recommend approval of the Revised Site Plan and Conditional Ude Permit dor Robert 4 crthingi:t t ; "Opus Corpor- or or^ ati,on, ation,subject to tate conditions lasted in the November 21+, 1987 staff report. Roil Call Vote. 7 Ages ZION carried.VOTE NOTION CARRIED Chairman Steierwald introduced the request by Thomas- THOMAS BISANZ H,isanz,' Northland Land Company. An overview of the December t4ORTHLANO -LANG CO.' Zc ; 1987 staff reportx, was presented: by Coordinator Anderson., REVISED PLANNED UNIT DE.VEILOPWNT Commissioner Plufka inquired if the propo;5ed number of units ' PRELIMINARY FLAN is the mid point within the range from the original CONDITIONAL USE a.pprova ? Coordinator Anderson stated it was not, however, PERMIT, PUD FINAL. this parcel .had gra wn in size since the Initial approval and PLAN/PLAT < ($7110) a 4..0- vni t increase has been moved from the site on the nort hwest to thi_s ryp l tpe 'th, :concurrent changes.the crp p consistentproperty .r Flo i . i h l 1. l t..a ki4 .i!-points.:arS,e 4tH nsi• Ls.U.li4 1'r.L l.ci E the approval, for a max vm of 18147 dwelling: units in t his- PUD, Mr. Ron Erickson, WE Architects, Inc., reviewed the; approval noting the provosed number of units is -ire exact mid -point for this, land since the adjustment of the lot lines. This is a log} -scale project and, could have more open area I the bU_l.di,ttgs were stacked to 4 - 5 stories In height. He- showud where the' site was in relationship to the Page 27 Planning Commission Minutes December 9x..196 iit Tll3lt by Coni' 1s n --r Wire, se r¢d y aha m TI O APPROVE te%gerwald to recommend approval for the Revised Planned: Unit Development Preliminary Plan, Conditional Use Permit,, PUD Fifal Plan and Plat for "Mallard Pointe", subject to the conditions as listed in tha December 2, 19871 staff report. Commissioner Pl.uVka stated this is, a unique oroject and he would like to, visit similar prodfetts " in the metro area to, see how the problems discussed by the Commission have been handled and/or rest -ad, He believes this item should be deferred,. Commissioner Stulberg inquired how far aping the construction of the project in Maple Grove is. Mr.. Sisan noted that 76 units are leased, with SO units occupied.< Commissioner Stulberg didn' t Believe there would be: a way to adequately det-rmine' how- the traffic works In this type of development witti only a portion of, the development completed' and occupied. MUT IOU by Commissioner Marofsky., seconded by Chai mant` 0-TION TO AMEND Steigerwald° to amend Condition No. 4 to read: Signage shat i omply with the approved PUD,Sig,n Plan, Roll Call. Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE ON AMENDMENT MOTION CARRIED MOTION by Commissioner Marofsky - to 'Table the request for redesign of the plan, changing the location for the clubhouse. MOTION died for" lack of secona . Commissioner Stulberg stated that relocating the clubhouse would provide more useable space, how--ver, - the real issue is to assure that all the Q-menit e-s for the project are accessible 'to tho residents. Commissioner Marofsky agreed .than all the amenities should be brought together as a,whole> NOTION by Cors issioner Marofskyseconded by Commissioner MOTION TO TABLE Stulberg 'to Table the Mo,,tior and: direct redesign -to, devel o more a- ce ssible, amenities. Commissioner Plufka noted that the location; of the amenities were fine, however, his, concern is with the proposed parking. It was his opinion that the Commission should visit a similar project but to not defer 't:his project only on the basis of concern about the aoien;ities. 4r. Bisanz noted that this development is a 11PUD within, a PUD. They initially proposed a trail along Niagara Lane to be ap easement rather than an outl.ot; however, the City You to not aocept this for a residential area., e Z " an osao' December. ssfka stated, h play arca°he, ommiiorter 01u, ot ftp-&,Ivesc .aid'' suq estin.he Ohailge a t t1,1 Flo, ao cpcd: ?ro a adua pat q o" the units a d the olubho4se allea o ta i 'S ( e his, Ooli n pa c and that ou used .as such* He cn. r d about ' e: of hous c. .aid the ac u used a "lc would osd c . drive a svt,wou ? w ' ` h Comm—iss10ft, has had - time to t s m arm p q cc :Al u s e u had jo oofoern with the r , posa ., Chairman., %c. qa a d , a cd, he has he same concerns as pr os c the -oth r mMU-sl nes and a s A a s 0 vUi s n4 s viillar projects.,H c ; r^ thea s sh t 'd centrally 1o0ated ain r ted, Mr Z p c ` £ia ,o ed next l) Groves qqax Shopping "Ce'to et WeaverLateRoad,, u asp a d atto 'COMM thatm c cc Vii# '( lden. V811 yt, 00 he s o ti-, aghwa 5 s w4 •th. eW Rc cb4lrmt 46, tteigerw-Ad rodccd.0there4esba...d by F'SCJ 1001 ifi C p i m, oo d. a or And,,Irs 2A gavea project overview. IM POO, cKVISEDT o seaosy asd aot he 30 gad ','`" R4llY 1 f#i..> p 7 `tr. Q t t1c t7 tCd .x.crt espCttthat,",P.?4, he ' s , a pw -for reduo d,' s acs T`t1 EIR 1,09 frank,t o sso Ato4t Mr. Frank revs oo o p plan that gas app caged in JLAne c h.s year And t '.d1f- roe the proposals, fle n ed ha Ori lflal P1414 e' " unl hu .dl q as g oposed ori hipaw and a" rhaddu new ropes she p;irt heas p on. qf' th s c ec " ved he open spade meas fila `a ?s hat llvt. 's (- . goth r. Y16 noted they, had app oao-h d the w .e s c he c Ctap -b parcel aad ttte p p r bete, , Nathail Lary and th aoptr "su hoh" o those : owners hoo pa ` io pa`:e X33 1 t Y prCl ' 5 . " d Qin+ iii an, newr, We = a ad':had cn add t th pS ctt+ at s-- notedonjm,W 12- aer s. 4 tllCii a t i-PlUfi<a add.`tcn.al oivs.C3 'a aCiQa"" tlt Commissioner Marofsky also had concern with the 108 -unit Roll Call vale. Seven ayes. flattop carried. VOTE - HOTI CRI ission Minutes December 9, 1.987 Cha-Jxman St 1gexwal,d InformedMr. {lander- uamme that staff would notify. hilm when this _, profect. is resch6duled for a Panning Commission meet ng OED BUSINESS Chairman Steigerwa.ld introduced the request- by Xen Str eeter, KE4WTftREETER Streeter in° -.stment Company.Reading of the November 24,` STREETER IWESTWNT 57 staff report was waived. REVISED PUID PREL,T". ITEWARYPLAN/PL AT , SITE Chairman, S eigerwal.d introduced Mr, lien Streeter. Mr* Chairman, PCAs AND VARIARCE Streeter nated that staff was not supporting the re quested 8706,8) variancx, to allow for the gas price signs next to the pump ii.X`ands rather than on the ,pylon si.g t, He stated that if the price signs were located on the pylon sign, it would de raot from the pylon sign and the rest of the building,. Commissioner Plufka agreed with Mr. Streeter. MOTION was made by Commissioner Harofsky, seconded by MOTION TO APPROVE Commissioner Stulherg, to: recommend approval for the preliminary plan/plat, site plan, and variance for Ken` Streeter, changing Condition No. 1.1 to read: "A. variance is graxited to, allow a freestanding price sign on the north side the pumps. All other signage will comply frith the j7o f/ magas x+1+4 `M l ante -. Commissioner P.luflka ,inquired_ about building materials. Mr. Streeter responded th.at ;the boxilding would to brick and that the overhead doors would face west. Vote. Seven ayes. Notion carried. VOTE - HOTIO"'CARRIED ADIOURNMEMT The meeting adJourned at 11.-10 p.m, 1 i