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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 08-12-1987Pana commission Hutes Ct. ha"r an Steiverwald oommenioe6 the aq,Ada ",,s s 'i to s cit 0',P. ijad Bos s e s he hear " p r the i Hea s. ire pion bere TIWW'S haanSteierwadtreteed the arAl anee request % F a aid ; ea Pc e ee : t t ` aee ss r in VM",_'_E 7 t 3 thtt 4, p.r a 1n C3 ' a -Readn cif the " ,t $ 1987 to report was . wa. and Hr . Pveel had", no qiistlons or, Qom eats Thi i imensiOns of the aocessory-buil4ing, WVe. ad.nfirmUfob` Com, ilssioner Wire C, mmissio er, g arn. sk oaf med that the ae sser building,. led to the Puce, s p,r u a yea , dehoe at 7 5 er reen E ane nd tliat 1f the lot "cr" the a , 4y, s not sold n th the eW_enot, _h ht 1 t would k eSy T OF } yL r^ s yy.} cty9y+ jod" c? r ' fit aob ,f` 000 t e Com / * l ; tinea + y 4o, recotrl!.fkS,+±.A app if t.E m" L.¢ },k# art H., TR A - (7!4%Y accessory ao 111ding, an, a pct w thou pr ind pal ase c an s ant in B s"s i.a"kej tb ye+ e, to the i dit is sted. in the VOTE 7 Ayes. OTO carried* MOTION, CARRI, Pm_TC h mar to e wa I adUeed the request bar t B r;a as ; Al N AS u her-, an h? rch , for, a Condit cna Hse Pex r xt , the iplcntes ora cheo c 1 ay ata day. cad cF the a us 5y 198 ste epee was wazved Wan Peterson 38195 Harbor Lane, lIT qi represell the e turch had no qt este n cor ctomme0ts SS 1. t;gwa d sped tie Ph Hearnq.' :a.s. them was no one preset e s ak on this e the Pub a'c.Hearing was ' cod` Kp0miss on r- P a sae az d y - e AW!E a s """ ^etr;m app dYa,;, the h ina .e Pe t ; fo.the 14o-1 W,z a ,sat ee e the condItj`ons" U.te In the August 57,1987 staff repott. flVote:,: " " yes* fi .TiON aarr: ed", VOTE - STT t tee wa . ,nt d ced the r . u st h the, Hiannep, najraq lE #"ITN' CQl1 TY 'tRiC CoqrvtyPark, err ro VE DITRICT an, Cure"'t lona 'Herm c r 1 ase the "deve3'cpjner t STS , # ; ssione Plu g: n p rod if ., Orono end her neighbors wereamenably o the strut being posted "No, Parking1l page,, 176 n comm* 164 Minutes, r131f t4d stat:.`sb6',' "Mf" 75 4'11 a p' ' to t o ,residents sn that home a td their guests on t" a gM.R'c;_•eet-s': Mrs Gaylord. Th rmodsgard. 3610 Fore t e' concurred with Ms. Crape, stating.,he lbas tal k, ed with Fred Room,, the Pol loer chief, he , re e v nc no sat s action. re ap dJ n t tt there very hea traffic and he ` to a be path or at least a nsta-11 d for Utti, Av nueA" Cobert cC nd,iennep n bounty, staked the '.t maps nd.- ref1e0t their, trail, -36th Avenue North, and.- hat the County ans a trail. -prem Maple roav through thehat deg rn.al Pari In ymoot:h, 3-ntc o den ? The exact ocat on the County trail has not been confirmed at th-i p P chairman Steigerwald advised Mr Thormodsgard to, contact ri0 clan arksk an ecreation r a dinc theD j. jeot+ ar j(of yi systm o Pu Hearl. omtids$lop $,tulf erg) s'{econ]dj eco; by Com Idn r t i i 4 I R4}! m, 140TION ,} uf lan and Gond*t.* nal tse #permit for the Hennepin bounty Park deserve st ct o fthe,_patkinq p ms_" an quest inse a d ng the 'City bLAd County r a sy tejJVs ''as c lscus ec for the reoord, arid$ subjeot to the con .tions A .51, In the August ; 1987 staf f report. n oner tare` s yn u red 'abOut the , ttcr:' d,atcd Ac ast 1 1967 and, s.obm .tted by Do ber « M er, Land .A, qu sition Officer for ,Hennepin Parks -1- an, the q esti bn on no a me ' , o asssmnts ' bete Crsnsdaton cad ;land card occur, hairman t zgerwa d explained tfi t the, letter wad Iwded the C mmis a on 's. nformatIon, . end he fty. c cru oil should 'cdns .der any, aettdn required, OAj the is'su *,of asses meat, . and rind onsbdat ion. o f `Ga Voto , % Ayes,. MOTION, carried * , iTZtNNthalr44tt3.4!>„T. `iCj-dtb. t.i Ss' -que , YYR-M s, P)#7!-$ - 5/3r nJ EW Id P1, , Marcus `} y ev{o-p±men/tyw{oXrpoyrato}ny a} gan? Q C'L#/., DEY t jr uyl. of L, Y',,. S.n 4 tA,.Le t 4 4'-, r .: 1 4 '. 4i i ,lam i.+ J »M r - D R 7 J PLMN. was prov,de ; by Coordin, for Anderton. M N1WNT870-06 owi slorver 3' w+,= x"a t i u Z. 4•M#: fi.b , t tJ .. ooat tr . '. i..= ` n telghbornoo s in relation to the He has' a problem agree:ng.. w. to tt e' st-aff nd oa din that the S*te not at; an . Iny t yer+ eyet9 on y a thou{ h son A no, f ' L ya; ptemso tiv yea, 41 'N'I d e.53 tf x4ri' ,4 ..t 3'+k r.i l ,L'+,.R .,/ '}+1wd 0, n, t .+' Pape ' Pj nng, toTi3i Aur: u , 1967 nye n bout the raff, and theQ1'Yif [e e fed CCS es on of installing a 4e- 4 _. N i ` re ned he k will be 140 , e Allen an t fie' re I yand, there w need ' >000rd na1on between the y ennep noy and I nT r _,led VOTE MOTON. EDICAM Niceha 3,. tdiS.i.n, Pa ba, ' 'm 4.111 r Re, e Lt 't1 'C` Vice had man a,uba n roduo d the eques nrbenson k RY" M .. 14 1' eve oprnon corporation for the Edina. Read b In XPLM rM, eadlnq' o A qu . X987, pi nna ng repo axed 0*Mr" At., USE PERMIT .18-1 ;. ft. +fry y q, i y } yr qty +.p @ i y yn p 11 Yoe .eJ. a;#t,:6kJ's#A :544 l-Vl'1, '7#4F 4+r:P r.P A,.rn+% Development,orpor on fan Hduseo bowed erg arG eobureI render .ng of the bu d nq and e«Cpla;i ed the plan . for their"lo-ok touer1 e e cp1eined _ the bu .d g - ala would e two. olor brink, us Ing qua a, in glass, and the us'—of masonry -throughout the building,,'. Vice. a ma pau a opened tete uol q ear ng: A there a no orae present to speak, on this item, the Dublin Hearing. was ' b.sed r inini# .. fC become non_.op6r blq-* MOTION, Cor s a:oner s u oerg, seec n ed by ot ma ss onor ' 10 ,10". TO AP, o recommend o prova dor n Revised Site p an and Conditional Use; Permit for or )Qhson Devolo den 'otpora: on, chebo bhe ponds asene.gu 8 staff,report. MOTION: by omr ss. over 1aro s y, ` se onde 'by' ommissione ' JJOTM TV AWND 1' d a to Amend aha talo on b arida n and ti `fin. '10 that: n ` s g age sha,lR exdeed the Ordin-anoe height regulation' of' ft*,A Cowioner Stu, ,erg, s dated that even ° these were s age on ane ow , ha"t signage would be'required to meet the O rd na ee and rd for he h end sizes ; the; an Ener art_-nr the' b l _ 1 fan csed:y tae to tbtdn a` In on h dower, gn will be low level ar d wi thin, Ordinance standards, oll all ' Vote on Amondment-Ay-6s,.,.'Co mallssioner VOT : ° GARI ED t l.be Nagy, * tom s inner yl'la ab.s aied. fl g l all V e .on .Maw; o. on r oe Amended,, Ayes Q7° 7I{3N CAW0 Col ol.one y.a; obsned P afth commission Minutes, Au us h l a n f u t Kenneth Streeter Streeter lnves men #- An ore view of 'h a u's ; 111EEC,,R 1918 sta vort was pro i. ed t ordina r Anderson. , SII , - XW PLAT BITE MAR Commissioner Plufka ;:inquired about the three lots as prev- 8708) io sly platted and lr rhes as rev ed » The In layout wr con's rmt d halrman Pa e, introduced 1r* Kenneth 8tree er, ter, In os' men , who sated he would answer anyuoes" flans end indicated the width of sidewalks should be -f . rather an t as shown. The - 3 width a s der the q yy g {{+ ownt wn ide: alk Flan..: Corw issioner Zylla lnquire0 about building. materials,: MrA ree.er stated, they would use brick, however they have no I selected the oo.ors.. I Commissioner "Inquired. a3bou y the - wc7},Ish`i e }pyla#nom" JiP1Vf '{ a Y % L.i i..S is : 1t y$w ik signs 4f. Plaoe' d to i ce , {S 4R"fh. d- 34 a Avenue11oh Streeter stated they will be ou sns na ereram h staff wh ch Avill hediscuss drdo }lanrvin o mi sL,t-e ;'brVh Public HearindicelChairmanPaubeopenedthe. 40 &,ba-sso Court, 5 rev!Iew- mu saes he ,. owns the, property to the west. He I was aware of the three restaurant sates-, but was not notified of these changes to the Planned Unit D.evelopent* Dire for Tremere stated that prior to the Pubic Hear n are din the planned n e e oilmen Pia - :. pro aer y "IyAers were notified. The Amendment was approved or, June 1 987. t° r . erril stated; he was "shocked". by this chancde as, he vals. bought his property based on the =Ural pUn, approvals" ffe; s" 00acerned about :uses such s tho$e propt -,,ed by, Streeter* ' i4e as re that sai :heck the; i.eo;' see why they were not notlfled of this: pdD. chane Director- Uerrtete a,ised :Mr Nerill, that a N tie was mailed to the plyaouh .ssocat on a 8 Genra Avenue.. Minne poo t r;;Merrill 0onfi °mei this was, his business address: t r. Streeter stated, there are tw,o sites 'dor, rOte ra t development and those who have Interest, i those s ' s have Ivenmno,ide that they want the shcpp n pouter In that. area, J Page 180: nues AmOst 1,2$ J987 r ,er stated s ruc ura o ago or en "'a top4nt' l AW and requirements and cry the fact that the site has 00r of where ecrreeiens noe""tied,. These dictated ocatiOft the huA d ngs and.. par-Ung areas d the, _ *itmendall« ink. a e ye ear ( my k/ j } a.n ythe ( t `{f lr d'A w 7N.t t 4`r.',;A . k }t th r, *.3+:f . dul 4t : 1, U 1, e^' cr en a on; and, ha the es qn ° ' + a sur her'Would, be acs he e . back s-1, de' . to his b f jLd!nr,* om ssditer y a, inquire there iau d be any chance aera ,s prem the frtn `to the ba ac of .she building, et r stated the materials vould not bdifferent., ommiss over Marofsky s ated he uAders- ands the, , concern abcu the soils eorrec jon, ,needed howevery evett turhiOq the center- a "quarter" Of: a turn would open I toward the ar cbyty d r Ieocould,',wrap,,to x .g[, Thj cW, e, y. s y} se/ y}{ }hq{ j jat interiorwould #-EI! ' i'1„tt# ¢ {il.3i 1.e a%m ii r4n ks;+ 3w',34*dL. •U 1k.4Lr' . mr nq ay features, and the plans for be m n . ccmmjssinner Mar+Y sky, stated he unders'tand's the n er s descned to, ..have t no back8 de" j bow-vier, his basic concern s r.ema n e Mar MO.t e a Ayes,,YQT R 1 9 eye`' 7 end d Rary }}[ he y / ycS ViFI#ddtl".1. ,'A.7 v:4Jdk VA3;'+ N W MOTION 1 f GiL+Fa ,/ `+"e.kA ++Y^ VLR C#.F 3nti+Lldk ..k 'Fa +J A 1.7 X?Y 4 Lr {W ,. .i,.aw 4.: b R16h .14 Lig d11 /N!Y .a :!ORr teslund car' a Preliminary Plat der s u-1-ra,m ly presidential iM Y PW hour nc An overview cif the August 5 1987 sstef report :gas 87069 rQv ded b erd: ator Anders Coordlna cr Anderson ex that he name e ' the plat was te be T_ '. e halratauba .ntraduded, r.. Gerry Nuar,oebs- n t sc'n Assbela es " epresen ing. he e -Itl aner . hir.. Heuer imm ntS, and staffed h wo.0 I d answer a.nyquestioA$. ern,a ssdner it e noted that the sitehas some ew land and et n ds aid inquired ha.t.type of struetu es mould, he 1 Mr . a:i exp a .ed 16 layeu' t luJ 3 T1 der l In s= as well, ,s a.n i dust ,ial bu d ng, they, be is44 Viable prb- ee Aod thelr lari$ 'take the,,"OX terrain Into aeuount. cus on en about the dot rt and; hylar clan Oh e sem t lines. ` shown an he r a c; she ' l it onl,aons dere :confirmed._ Pae 182, Pla ,hq mm5 3 4 1 lit August, 1 9 Vice (hairman-,0auba, Introduoed tb e request by Ryan,, ons rud 1YANCONSTRUCTIM CO. r y . C d s,. Pore'' o dDer ,tonyr. n om f [ 0 Ute .: ritnes center one stal carwash rack- and sandwich PEST ,0 shop in the T.T. BuildIng'at 505 County Road 18* Reading. of the August 3,,1987 staff report was wa ve. vie Chair Pauba in 'o7ducd Pat Ryan*. Mr. Ryan had o questions or cements* ceChaIrma.n Pauba, epenod tjze Pubic Nearing, as there was 00 pr <? speak cn this item, the Pubic Nearing, was closed, MOTION by, Commissioner lvlre seconded by Commissioner Pluft a MOTION TORcivJE ec m need a.pprn a fqr the c ndit nna . rise Permit for Ryan Construdtion Company, subjectn e ccndit. io s s listed- In 'the August 5$ 1987 staff, r epor alc e. e 40 ca ried. V 1T ED ice chair Pauea In Frceu.ced # cues by Ryan Cori ru tY 4N, T T . . t cn: npany a , .an ase Guid Pian amendment and f an ed LANs USE W. IDE PSN namen r ncep P an. An nyerewof ie Augst 51 tN7`N P staff report,was, provided by Coordinator A dersenx UNIT O"C Ps NT COPT PLAN (87027 ci ssJ enexNSarofs y ,questi -ed the area in }1e o ,eft, handypq ery0 of of th}e@y/ sgraykph y o, be or ps.^ de yYg a pr} ib c*}s+eem}s 1;-! Aed .i, \/ 7ti #d.. Sr ti#M, L TA. et1 e ,s +GItL+*+4 '.Rhiix i1 }%. .i.t iy.k .4'. M n the graphic was hand nc new awned theetib s n e it is r,* ht-•ef-way* Mr2 Ryan; explained that, with, the, redostgn cf the ren age road, this area will be inciudac wthin the punned area. Mr.Ryan explained -the' riot-cif -way*` ands that they do own, approximately, half Of the site i-al q, s on* rec tor Tr mere abed that the, goometries and dimensions . would no be known untilthe platting stage; the area can 'he ncluded In the requidin , consideration., sR.s J+ iAe : y .la Inquired if sta ff eV :ro .uf I4/ V1i5.'e request for , reguiding to .,the CS s c va ce rbusxngess} c assiiMa f n' Director-, " i .. ,' .S.r ' kit that the C `gu..i h I .4 Ppropx The'staff concerns center cn the commercial en, erprises the deepe4r is Seng per the PiP apt; and un%eeicr C;om ss one y is nguiir d. ,about, any nan o . WIt the guidth 9' Direct- Tremer sta" e z ' ta e Cli rf l ;iia uses. and ' designs ' are in.' the on%ng rdihanoe The iassif a on is he bass s for k Zoning which a vs re a i end her ccmmerola uses. He,, e,viewed the Canoept e._, ;..... _. _ __,. _ _ _.._...., ,. , . ... A J STTTd Tl Com aissaoner Plufkay seconded' by Com WOSTITUIE ST C ssioner deny the Land Use Guide Platz. Amend- rOR merits with a statement to the City Cour eil that h e D service b si,ness} idint, oprie i?or this areal ; the amount ' ins excessive given the ropo ed development .plan - lateand1and1mostofthesiteshouldbeguidedC (limited business) Disicussi,on, ensued reg ar ! aite naives for the proposal and t min o uses itti the development. CommissionerPlufka expl toed his recommendation takes into account the existing CL,guiding for the .Groves Gffloe, Perk Planned Unit evelopment,. Corm i;ssa,oneriia .asked if the sense of the Commission Is to- recommend denial,, why be oonoerned about the CL ol<as it Ication i i Roll. Call Vote., 4 Ayes. Commi ssi,oners dire and tul.ber Ski UTUTE MOTION: Nay. MOTION'carried. VOTE MOTHft'CARRM Motion by Commissioner Zll.a, ; seconded by Coni,ssioner Stulberg to Amend the Substitute Motion by adding that the, Piannin Commission ` recommends reguidin to CL lis i.ted business) if there I's a requested change from, the IP (pian- nod industrial After brief*' da,scussion, the Motion to amend was -withdrawn. MOTIOR by C m' siooer $tolberqt seconded by Commissioner 140TTO AWW y .ia to Arend the Substitute Motion to reco n denim o . the Laad Ajse. CedePlan. Amendment as submitted,: based on the f irtdincfs. in the 'August 5 1967 staff' report» Coissiooer tulberc stated the reasons were the proposal Yas cot consistent with the Comprehensive Pian and the site 5nou d! remain IP. Commissioner InVire Mated his nay vote reflects his, opinion that service business is 'needed within this development Pail Call tote ' on Amendment to tho Substitute 'Motion. 5 COTE AMEND", T Ades Comta ssoner ire z ray iCi iC carr led . MOTION. CARRIED MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, see onded by Vloe Chairman OTTU TO D Psavba denial of the Planned Vni b(Development POO c "T PLAtit jreoommer aj j C}ncep+r +-t t C J,.r1Ya. Yt, txli findings listed ,ki s t' .. staff report., The plan is cot consi$tent with the IP73} adin.g* ol,l Call Vote. ` ' Ayes. MOTION cerr ed 1 UT - ?TT t CARRXD Commi sioner Stulberq observed that some service bu!Iness. This Was the oohsensk$ of, the Commission, PlannintCom€ission Minutes August12, 1,987 Vice Cha_rraan Pauba calked a Recess at 12_.15 A.M. RECESS W MSTNESs Vice Chairman pauba introduced the request by Twin City TWIN7 CTT! OPTICAL optical. Reading of the August 51 1987' staff report was SITE PLAN At MMT waived. AND VARIANCES Vice Chairman Pauba introduced Mr. Roger Sjobeck, 901 <Jef- ferson, St.. Paul,, who explained the Twin City Optical opera- tion. They employ 90 people, and have a night shift with 15 employeo . ' He noted that while the staff' report indicates they may have outgrown the building, "they moved intothe problem." They have been at the limits of the parking capacity since the day they moved into the building. The requested variances will allow them to avoid on -street park- arkMg. Mg.The solution to part of the problem is to add the 74 parking spades at the east end of the property. Mr. 5jobeck stated this would not set a. precedent, as other buildings in the area have parking at the front; and, the parking stalls they propose, would line, up with existing parking lets. He stated., problems arise when there are snow ,accumulations, and special meetings. He said the use is wholesale i distribution, and is not retail* Commissioner Stulberg noted that the parking spaces fall. short of the required number needed for 90 or more employees. He inquired what the next step would be, for Twin City Opti cal? Further discussion of the parking disparity ensued. Director Tremere stated the building cannot support tiie use; per City standards. He explained the; regui.ding of the land: j to CL (limited business.) and the intent: for development and redevelopment in this area. He stated that the City would like to see them secure another site inPly mouth that would meet their 'needs, and particularly their growth,,, I Mr. S jobeok explained that the number of employees will be increased during the night shift to alleviate the parking J requir iaent5 during day, time hours, fir t Qary Threl.keld, ; Twin. City Optical, confirmed the company's plan to add employees to -the night ` shift, to give their customers a j competitive edge .with the "one-hour wonders" (rapid service' retail" stores) • 1 z,. Page 1,90. planning Commission 'Minutes. August 12, 1,987 Commissioner Mar ofsky stated concern regarding adequate snow t v rage on this site and, a,nquired where can the site they p an provide for this storage? Mrs SJobeck stated the boule- vard areas and " edge of the parking lot would be adequate areas ;four snow storage,, Commission Stulberg noted that future' improvement to the frontage road could reduce' the areas now used for: snow storage. City Engineer Goldberg stated' the City- has no ;immediate plans to improve- the street: Mr.. Sjobeok commented that when Tarin City Optical had a` facility downtown,. the employees used bus service to a higher degree; he believes that this may became thecase at this f ac i.l ity as well. . Motion by Commissioner Wire to recommend approval ' for the Site Plan Amendment and Variances for Twin City Qpt calf subject to the conditions listed in the August 5, 1987 staff report, and that the variances be granted due to the fact that this is not, a new development site; the variances will not have a negative impact on surroundincq properties-. and, the drive aisle widths are adequate The Motion died for lack ` of a second MOTION by Commissioner Stul berg,; seconded by Commissioner LOTION TO, DENY Marefsky to recommend denial of the Site Plan Amendment and Yaranees for- Twin 'City' Optical, for the reasons that the Variance Criteria have not been met; and, the available parking can support the reasonable use of this. site and building. Commissioner Stulberg stated he could reconsider this if -a' public improvement project impaotcd the situ by reducing parking space Vote. Ayes. Commissioner Wire, Nay. MOTION oarried.' VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Yice Chairman tlauba introduced the request by Welsh WELSN COMPANIES Companies `for a Sign Variance. heading of 'the August 5, SIGN V ASE' (SigBU) 1987 staff ,report was waived. Vice + hai,rman Padba introdvaed. Mr. Paul Dunn; Welsh Companies,: Dunn explained 't=hat 1:.1ha variance requestis dictated by "ttnant needs for signage. He further explained the requests for signage made by the medical offices in the building; and, that per staff assurance during the initial: site plan review regar fync the allowable signage,. they promised that tenants would have the desired signage... fearHestatedthatonsubmittingtheirsecondapplication wall :signage they were denied a permit. They relied on staff for information; the information was in error; and z,. Planning s -Qmmis4 :cin Mlautes August 12, 198.7' Vice Chairman Pauba introduced the request by Johnson JOMSON SCHROEDER Schroeder arty ership for variances from; the Policy Resole- PARTI 'RSA IP tion No. 75-664 and from the platting and street frontage VARIANCES FROM THE requirements of the Subdivision Code. Reading of the August POLICY RESOLUTION 5 1987 staff report was waived. 75.4664 AND PLATTING REQUIREMENTS OF THE The petitioners were not present. though they had been SUBDIVISION CODE present earlier. Engineer Goldberg explained the circum- 87077) stances of the :request. Motion by =Commissioner ' Wire to recommend approval for the variances from Policy Resolution No 75-664- a.nd from the platting and street frontage requirements to allow division of 'Land for O ;hnson & Schroeder Partnership, subject to the conditions as listed in the August, 1987 staff ream. The Motion: died for lack of second., Commissioner Marofsky stated his concern that this property will be ".land locked'. Engineer Goldberg explained that this property cannot develop until after the Year 2000, as it is, within the Metropolitan Urban Service Area* In res- ponse- to questions, Engineer Goldberg confirmed that a single family home might be construotpd on the prop;erty. bireetor r mere explained the circumstances surrounding this request were unique and granting this variance would not set a precedent. MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner` NOTION TO APPROVE Marofsky to recommend approval of the variances from Policy Resolution, No. 75.664 and from the platting and street frontage requirements of the Subdivision Code for 3ohnson . Schroeder Partnership, subject to the conditions listed in the August 5, 1987 staff report. Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED AD""MEN7 The meeting adjourned at 1.07 A.M. I