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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 01-28-1987F77", IT OF PL T PL,PLAMM C SSm 1967 The Regular e n u ann m i : n called o order * * W . RESENT- 5 . wa " c m loners Pawbx t s aner, Plufka STS" " Commun y I)evo m t 0rdinator Sara 4 E«01 yor Shan%. anoinq cr Crane In CWI%l 14T AU MOTION' by mm, n r S x berg a c nd d key om mer TX N APPROVE to adop.Age d as, ubmed VOTE., ,6 Aye MOTION- oarritel, OR -A"IED- 1 by cmma. over Stulb sconded, byamt`n T `tib AQRC)W P,# f2 cEpr vara" t . Q! ' lin t , t s4 .td'.. Poe h irman S rw ln.r du ed the reque by Lundgren L0N W.N BR0Ti_R' t3r th r ConStru _ . ' mp,any and requestedP, an Gverview o CiS'TR TT0t 'C s thet ry . , 1, Planning, Sta day t LAND 'WI yI"; A4 "F L y P n. tin r nu .ngi red about e ncep pan and i P T dto mens review was between theeasy .afts PAR S, dof Woksburg Lane's Ceerd nat r #imstated, the Coin- DE'Et-OPWNT[ I`. p Plan waa , for the. nt d lvela en - the pet soar WST then requ sted lat development re, ew b or, S age," A and R'* She explained h. n a e udad a ae y n` ,housing Styles, Sly corifirmed or nmmiss nner wire that them for ea e.4,, h orh ood sy1 yo '.qng area Planned yt' bed, p,isF4R !.°0*E 1a 0,.i. hose, .4w J.. Yr V A 4 7.a ,, .%:.t i the., A,.£' 3 1 ..* ' : s,o 3wM a4.1.J M {3a .. , d.nan r Sio f r PUD' SS.1a tIXan, S wk {+wald, intrgdw " 41,Vh#1. W r4 &{' lge y'. rn hers Construction P00P, any Mrs pflaum cave the h1story the e e tat.n . they have never ha4 to 'f c ht. for wn e n * and t : h ime I ur a re n residents who died not ylv a f g y m yd{ id,ti 3 +b There T e p} L Q.k ,1. iaF t, y t r i ' with,4 T r,; a.r Cha con wit exp Miss 3anix t Cl •€ roti h 0q •d s us n$. , cin11 apmen the assn need that p• that ne e :and 0, PlaM, aum noted he d. net, See y d seuss nn presented- in the- Minutes of that eo n net read as man Ste-1 Berwald sae de e oilmen sal s• the s ck and needs oprevide I w to odorate 1n oMe I l 6 Vith o0tions,o- ho i t VI here is, the11ng` . - pre de -- d t s ' o 'the wor r In are . sa emetssde rerdr h impact of tax wa she d crease to n:terest rates and market, trends] but the mains that el is to provide., a Peter Pf 1aum staved aka e +pan and t nx ed Ptopt r ies.:own, ' land east Vlok•burg in the Nrkers, Lake WI, and there art mtam deenpmens ,proposed hem eerd nater McC6on stated these eompan s do not own the land n deo e p a nod thy. petitioner is, request bene i from the approved hRUD Plart on the .east side of Vicksh r Lane for aaehed heus..n. this peinnr hay nr enure w, the dasi n or Oon$ideratioft, of amen me :ts car that . and ha rman Ste aer'd- stat e h understands he11 S and, etpah les with the ffieu In 01 t nnla this hu .e' pI' Oe cif, property'A. It been sInIce egin '*l( : ayn-. aha ' (` manyalrs n ra r1 and-many l {%F V - hrJ y yryncha } y jj jy e n C{4;i ' n h e Ri' 3A Y LAK. i'.a4 pit r 45 ,L3. ,.y la. 66-ex.. ofthosewho prooe$$* -flowev, er, the ssien 'cannotn der that mhulcelly may tome n ac cess t e scree- when h.ere ar'O n pans fa.- their, review, at `phis, time. r P arena a ed 1 talked with• the; Cid- of i inneapolis and they a A put-. reQment with du e Properties with certain den Engen .e ' chaill an s e gerw, Id sated they cannot e on bearsa, s hoped that, such a Oevelopme, proposal will-tie in with the PUD Plan nssrne r'e uired ao the fnrmatInn . used by 1,r # Cenha r . 1r* cenhai sated s, based en 688 tu din Perm "tsper dear for Baur years,. pro eeti 11,90 ',available sols, anyd'.:. s .. nq. -ed aheut dew} yn%;; yhtyT ry:; es}'` h n` . g,',j,. a's ' pj+. er pla yE,: 4 i.d C.L k.+r. i.a ' d•fd ` t b r town. opo" f `4 ondoi71, 4A M. O'n' -. the approved :PD, Plan# gn z n thetiterIa-0m relterated the mpertaneo o; pec de and, for singly am ly, homes wh eh maces qh s an a aprepr,., ate developmen prepnsa Where s not a demand far l ltil- I -age 26 Planning tommission Tint es 3,anuary 26, 1987 they had to, wait a long time to find the right home in, the area of their choice. She is in, favor of more single family, residences. Don Smith 16400 15th Avenue Northstated he Is on the Boar4 of-- the Chelsea Home-ownerrs Association an -d they are, ne1qhbors of Lundgren Brothers developments., They have good relations with their neighbors. They have signed tht petitiorts, and are in favor of lower density development He a reed with the premise that there is a large demand for Angle family homes, whereas many townhomes are, for sale including those in Chelsea., He stated, be has be-ert thinkinq of returning to a single; family home. Barry Winston,, '16,005 Uth Avenue North, presented signed, petit? ons noting he Is in favor of d6veloping single family- ho(res, and it is obvious why it took no,great effort to get these signatures.. Peter Pflaupi submitted peti.tions signed by residents in Steeplechase and Fox Run., Chairman Steigerwald closed the PoKic Hearing. MOTION by tommissioner Wire, seoonaed I by Commissioner #40TION TO APPROVE Stulberq to recommend, approval for the Land Use Guide Plan Amon dmentand Re vlI sed PUD Concept Plan) Prelf Im inary Plant Plat for Parkers Lake Development/VicksburgWest, stjbject to the conditions as listed in the January 11% 1987 Planning Staff Report. rCommissionerWirestatedhundo stand the, :51tuat on re gard.Ing the change of density and land use; and, staff concern regarding 'these amendments However,, take informa.- tion regarding 'the potential scarcity' of .and for develop- ment of single -family homes,,- also seems an important consideration. Commissioner Stul!berg stated he dries not have a problem with the proposal, and it is apparent there would be no problem obtaining signatures of those who probably want to see only single family homes, on the east side as.. well. He recalled the residents concern regarding the proposal- for condo- minium./apartment buildings,, Chairman, Stelgerwald state ke,is in, favor, of the Motion. This -is a quality buildezMw,- is, experienced in the market. The point -s, made 4y Ki,, 11flau-0 are very goodosves. Cooinissioner Pauba stated he is opposed, to the Motion, It ts Important,, as a1ways, , 4:o look at the highest and best use for the lan,dj, and downzoning is not nec.essarlly the 'best option. The City needs a good mix of housing for now and, in the future, f F, Page nnnq. t%on -nu ry 87 o a n ga d h'Joh', Th r n ..ua om nl; and the fact iso. an mu"t'i- ml aotts 'Ciannot boonstrued as, a urdh le h0 n H . concern, about the u r caned're areeC.x h the concern and lots,, but the, development,an i `qood,1P1 n rdina ur MoConn stated concern r t and * r the k6tion' Which, Indic-ate', taar e -,dtamd " the ,ta :,q should: andfest r" i a n tine stated that obviously the market Is the undorlyinlgl reason* coordinator PloCon aced, It Is itopopwl tant to the roasons,o base the r ccmmenda len for ` al cuaapprcvl cmtaopen . space has, enter-ale mer Co issioner Ragtivs stated M opposition, -to the Motion. Th enmplee Planned n,' bevccmen and. a span on n-her . areas c ;the - It will ha an effect of the development of areas withl PUD I tsial et . ars not_ a Tare n.u-mber ol mumai,y in,o Uh ou h and he l h sitant to dawn qu de an area n dman stated tncrn -further amntiment on, the ea s- t Ide. Chairman, Sax er a' d a ed ha ace could provide 4 d e n Planned UnitDevelopments, n this proper . the aamn has oranuaa aid ol it 1 h a OU w T a of l u irl annd Pr rin fur ercn ann d nit Vey .apmen would not .ca,W a h:a development doe It Is his opinion-,, that, the roadway, -.Ystem. r handtraflwillbehe , ty of 'al - Vote. A sp Oommi ioers, Magnues and NO t I T 'i ala AM14fiR$$ at wiChairtiI. al hairman teigerwald Introduced tha a ung b r aw4 n 1 h R+ Y; Pi. . and Limited Part shi and requested an overview of the P lt7 9 TP11 ann n Staff epnr b C ordIn,atu d4nuPW L tT taly3,i 4 gt.+(, 4ype yq 0.r4f4 AWH s S• TND 01 n u m<i a 1 r n-- ren.nrraduc.d the fp yann telnnn'' he prised, e e tapme pan willh ah nh ,a emen for the dents and those, `inn the hus%he park.*- This J, Teat a4d th ant i t ig6a ur+ t, The tau. I 1 3 i 'c an.d w e e mpa` h a: nn r e nn n the "tither, phA s it r,qht turnUation: f-ot at Forqbrook-to l onl soul e r 0, less time. QnInUZOSI Coin Via$ OIf-missioner ;. tie, Oast end the mpor ars the rl n and poki b y r r tai 'Conti" ld MAY `neo art stated r q n two a ,a . ; and r and to traffic flows" the Site laywt provide.",tho for": - 1-101 drive aro nd i building . a t Thi' 3 Q t 3prove , OoM r i o`t he- pr; i Flan. 'He expo.,'kqd the oitotlatlonWith r and Ingress each ' d the pr v d g.r d: traff lo.io. mo, Thi rinh'dl Visually "appea-1 ing athe ch ap Sat re,$ deed the Ordinance r chem nt,,4 I + h r fi r ? ; c,x t tislo el Pau T T APPfOW r dmm n { r t n v lopmen° ,pe ent aj Uso Ptrmat for Crow -P ,y et ,and WAted Nr o h-i,I a eo.t tohrtn In them.19,7. e, coditlb ' Stiff r port. 11 Vote.CT VOTE 001,11*'0 Arm : l d h und6r rands staff t . c o- ' gardif over vi d ng" th 'i 1vowe e, i 'w0 r hlv i d " ? t s 'liedev o; ,M n cour .said hairm r teig Wald I r d d t Tr USS Gt1 1 t o ` or r,Ison Center - h Addition 'r c e'st d n` 4C?l.N'T RIEZONll vrvlwanar ilnnlnpr X'A* ar dl z rT,M KA $T F f CARL ia; r tc4 ` lget 4, d' 10 r duc d l ' .« .a n a ' ish " ii . 1 T` r'arnrt' TrattxtxIj r `'tivda?.« trnrn.dd the d v lopm n +'air'... ,Slete, stated she,has r view 4 the staff car c nd nr S a oe able fln n rar y 1 -6th ly .e mei w t rS d ev . v d. e ar.S. h hlS r of th 6,Mixed an i d Ubit D16v to ren a. boy*d: c .P .oma and mto a and he ton_eltal` .' 7 tmt : an . a ° yi a° k3i; 't rii sk Ls, 'dealded i1lo t: pilaft ie:dted Trand d v l _and t r ar _ sed pr' n .a pro Sed land a h n e4 h dovel€ mens request I not a i large a t'hat or9xnal ' aoprov dw d us .ed s of the site* theilStncg, ,,charaoShe }14. y} ils ryl r M 4 w Yi+ , J.I %1:: :L 1:.e ' :l. k .K R L§'?e. kd+?x .i# is TM i L= a-uary li,1987.1 ereiadhisOonoernsaboutthbtiildn n end should 'aQ a a 26, Linda Fisher and o ar d site, io'n where distances' a andi: that b 1 n n ; the marsh a %6 a i d '' study, findings' this pc je t, '1 h reduce: the ..number of a bu€ - d OM; Pment plan* Id and; M, Oustner discussed the exp .annt, b p. toner on the, buin, . Msbaunrtheumms"ln p b c to- h problem And std' i dis ur ex a "Cityand Carlson mpani both stated a one-story bua ding would t n a 34 t 1 rop ` . on dl a r l onn explained the diferanne between qen 'al d npmeAt plan,$,and, d jj d ' $Ro an.., She xp a neo that' he Intent, Of the Landscape nlIcy i to, provide trans tin and u an ra n d s -a- it mean ` the ildl 119 4111 b otall " oft of sighti., been. hy taiitMs,us,fee ing-, hy ay- mlis Ad y r s reiterated, his opinion,that, the building, should , haat the° nw land can e Al proved for bud ding cou'lnn an+ad a - u e airman, to gerWald confirmed thework to. ba nx.,omp ishe as, stated in, the Engineer: emo andum-* the car, l l ht s., from the parklaq, r are 4, p o lexoj will the. City eorne t tho p ubl Chajrman Steigerwald. stated'the City' reviews the, plans 'to- the:d elope n ten the Impaot the parking area mai have on residontial Property near b, ch airman t l a; d ", loped the Publl faa n nm paua ct nd d nmsslnnr, e MOT J` TO,A[*ft anu Vin. -r;d appoal for :thy' Lapp 'l p_ P-tiw,: m ndmant n rad Pt l iminary ' a for ram l rn Y P" . nmpan . sUb -at p t . nn.di- ion n . a p e n ' l ar poll a Votes. 6 :yes* ` O arr d- VOTE Mon ° + u Page Pla n. e s o ,Imes v MOT h o . m . s io , end approval for the1111a1 flat for Trammell M& PLAT crew Company for Carl:scn Center 7t1i Add it I on subject to the n r`, a previa sted in Uhe January 20* staff Reil, Call Vote. 6 Ayes, MOTION arr ed,,, OT;- TY IU) o'm, iss cner Tire sated 'his *n erpreta io , elf the i 'l ars rr t ''inti sot the back of the, building, The c s en gas Mn ar d discussed the site sections, Commissioner C°:ire reiterated, 'his eeneern that there should, he a hotter~ rendering` D the s e to showthe a.et a meas of e e a t o e i n; and proposed*, d ss t ner Wire inquired about tee- acoent lighting, for the bvI' Idi, n The project -architect e p a ned e exterior hdildinc As are at the gathers, of the b dln * Commissioner Wire.noted he would, net wan `' to see a flood light, that would, washthe h d n Steve tendert Trammell, Crew, stated the aeeeAt . Rights. are directed downward, and. till not pure onto she u ltidlnt _ The parking lob , Ugbtin produce noare beyond the- property boundary heightcCmmtssioxiorWireexpressedccneernabc.ut the of,the buildinc and its preilmdt to the residential nei hborhood#" urther, discussion ensued regarding the general development plan and the, present size plan. olmissioner Wire rude a Motion, to,recommend deny a the Site, Plan, the Motion died for Lack of a second., MOTION b cmaiIss. cher her ; see nded cmmiss ane Q 00 TO APPROVE MUe e recommendd apprt val of the Site Placa for Trammell, Gree Companyfor Carlson Center, 7th 'Additionsubject to the 00 as-, I i'sted- In the 0anuary ZO,198F7 staff report MOT, Cil by cm ssxener W1rer seconded by C`o' issioner Patib HOT TO AWNO tc Am nd the Motion, h adding a condition re u r ioA ad -I Aal screeining and b.uf era. g n the tandscape P an'4 Further di -1 ,As' s IJF -ensued and\ j: 41.x was M!4+F l.d .5 ,.fGi A y' l cher C`'ei i, .+f T } J+ve 1 , a '3 C 1t ed a idsrC P6. an . req acrd, sh.u ld I lode the a pe and sI ze of . p aa l nes., Cc rnm ssicner, Wire s ti ed ghat his concern is ha a better .,andscape re en e provided .0r his interface to, the residential r ese Chairman, e gr+ aid s q es khat the cit Forester and Community, Development Ccdrd mitor reylow. the pans pith the pe tJoner thatthe pe g €ger consIftr revs n the ar"rd- P-1 ann-Ing,'Minutes, ail3 4987, soaps an) withirt reason,, with 'vevetatlori 0& good . survi ah1 1 h 'o. . nor . hear - ide, of the, bulfdinq* mm1s1or Wire' sated he would Se Dodo Fisher statedch dwou providethe `1te Plan a csuld' Ii rove forward,'City o n 11with a r o m ndat lu :; for approval Commissl6ner Wireagreed that Coordinator Mocom rid the, City Forester can r IOW -thO plan$,to assure eo pllaac with the-Co 11u rel Roll call Vote; art iia fl so nars a berq, and Mel nj Rays erg arr ed TCARRIM Rc Vote on a r o c ee . t T - M NOTION' nss-mmilereddniicr WINS. r{ aoba o.raar C jW n rome BeginContrar * for the 0ustrut1 OTIE4i a -en 'st theast d ut.0 Vi wo d, Lane and Cgun` T om, , Ai''01tE Road, .ub o he 0th dl funs s t n a gar i" 1Plein. to port'o 6 v, s, MOTION" "". arr:c Vo E NOTI C_ D hair a 1q rwa d introduced rb r qua . b Bo Baer U L c 13 de' for AM d las lqs 1o c ReadIN! of the ars ary AL D, PLASTICS, I 1aringa ep r was wand Sim: AND ha rman tell rwa ld 1ntruduu d r m a i rep `elan n. the petitioner-i, Mr* F a:skl stated the variance, 1s requested pr 'd art e f1 1ept layout or, the building.- andI. becaus '' h pr ,blem cif ero 1 un thI ito h arch sheltering p 1 for the, buildinqj, dgge " e'd by-C` would,urth er explain, th would, 'the eonlyfajb option. f erosion problems and the-reed for an ef feotiveswale* M - s 1 ` V -the- par r ' c' surd' be apprc d. a r` C `, d ` .1 tt; '.ra P.4a .. 0"PI l h , o ' h l r -q re nts Of int ity, t rier inquir d about the posy 1 Of, t r racing the grad qtr. Fake $ a` ed there snot Otough room for rraf' I ' and keep;:an offeative -tan v nnq `ops=n Minutes afti a o6dsslon r r confirmed With, A na N 0 onn ; the Variance request s for 7, fry vet:st.$ 50, ft . for the 4rkiog-s,aI k, t o ,cv Lane, ars. 0' fes. {vsft ta. ftr _ .he _pa t . , _ . L$. 41 - Chairman Stoigerwlald inquired, about t itanlhforma4 q . h40't nq n nq Dopiar m n` n Its Engineer Goldberg t,1404d. ,thatt' ra ,nnaq calculation's are n d d, fns the proper $ Z16 st. m seer. Atid the tion r as hi Sst eB. a.LStl k-4 5.+. 6. 41i4 '# ,ds c l: 'ift. R:- .. ft.ned 0 h'ttin,,q the, building Mr,,ani : aeds ren ', q.nr p.Inq. r p s d for she north side W to , MOTION, mm $ n s : nncf Clomm . $I - n PPROVE wl recommending, app,ovalfor has Site Plan, and ArtaAce for aemc r , uil rs for Alli d ,as xcst. Ines sur d or th e' 0nd ons as ist the anuary ZOO 195 ' report and brased, on the to oq aphical conditions of this TIO h bmmissxoner Stul rqa seconded Orr"ss n r 1OP Raba r mn n( a n ' 1 ndm n fog S"qn P ,W)o Pp to the . .ons a n an a 1967- s a re - 91 4PPi iir 1 o Ayes ig r"' W_ T ; 1 XED h rm nt lq r h nk. Commissioner agnk a ' lis s o va: n tete anrd ma ss nn. ordlnato nn n di tie - of Planning: Com! le, lCity n me q ` a a ;q tin guar ;87 ani will, b dinner meetinq# ftayorL Schn,61xter:added hist anz 't s-or ft grius for . a b.. 1 ine