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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-25-1985CITY OF PLY14OUT14 PLANNING S TQN MINUTES. SFPTEM,19 Vkregular Meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order at r .. IRS PRESENT- Chairman Steigerwa .d, Commt5sioners Wire, tulher , tea€Inus, Mellen and paubd WHOERS,BS NTt Commissioner Plufka ST PRESENT**, Community Development Coordinator Sara t4c onn Assistant City Engineer Jahn Sweeney Community D'eveio went Secretary Grace Wii1 man SENT ASG NDAIMI UTES t110TI N by Commissioner Pauhat, seconded by Commissioner Wire MINUTES - SEPTEMBER to approve the September, 1955 Minutes as submitted; and 111 1985 recommend approval for Item No. -A, R. Johnson Construction R. JOHNSON CONST. Company Site plan and item too. to. -B, i". Edward Sheehy, SITE (85087 Site Plan and Variance of the Consent Agenda. C. EDINARD SHEEN SITE PLAN AND VARIANCE 0 OTE. 6 Ayes. ommIssion rs Stulberg and Hellen abstained VOTE MOTION CARRIED frL.ij voting on the Minutes. MOTION carried. Coordinator McConn explained a memorandumaorandum tc the Commission conc.ernin# a condition of approval, to he forwarded requiring that an existing outdoor advertising sign be removed as part of the C. Edward Sheehy .proposed de e opment. It a a5 meted i the petitioner has been advised and concurs with the ream- mendatr.un. The appropriate condition will coo forward to the City Council for their consideration of the rejuest, Commissioner Magnus clarified his concern ar noted can page of the Minutes of September 11, 1955 re ars°din the re- quest by Holiday Station;cores, Inc.): and, red a0ve to the parking areas, and stripinc at the facility at the 3,-xte:rseo- tion of West Medicine La Bled. and Highway 55 (55085). noted than there is azkin , stall striping but there as no striping in front of the store denoting that parking is prohibited. PUBLIC HEARINGS Chairman Stei r al.d introduced the request by Graham evel-- GRAHAM DEVELOPMENT upment Company., Coordinator 6 cConn provided an overview of C - PRELIMINARY the September 16 1985 staff report* PLAT A T . VARIANCES 65089! Page 219 Planning Commission Minutes September $ 1985 ChairmanSteic e Wald introduced Mike Garr, Graham evelnp- ment Compan. r. (.1,air stated he had no coitmentsand wool answer any questions. Chairman telge w4ld opened the pu Elie Hearing. Jim Lassell, 3015 Quaker Lane stated Ive Is concerned with the preservation of the wildlife in and around the ;pond on the site* He noted the number and different species of Will - mals and birds that inhabit the area. He staffed that extending And improving the roadway will produce more traf- fie and tie suggests that the distance e widened a much as pn.s l le, -It. 10,1st 25 ft,; between the roadway and the pntid; screening and shielding .-heuld he pro,0 ,!od alcanci the roadway. f4r. Lair explained the road Alignment as roope ed i ith, an earlier development plan and noted there Is not clot ' of flexibility in the road alignment :fj eacIse of the existing roads In adjoining developments, Mrt ,. Lassell mated that 2fth Avenue will Abet the pond which will require some fill and he doesn$ i. understand why it should be so close to the pnpd, Coordinator McConn reviewed the 1951 Approval by the City Council for the Bo man Development Plan. She noted that this petitioner has 'worked with the Department of Natural. Resources (DNR)and the City Engineers to locate 29th Avenue further to the northwest. She stated that DNR reported there is illegal fill in the santhwest corner of the pond whi.eh will be removed. Jerry ffeI, 1OV5 31st. Avenue North., stated he would like to review the NMR report to see the details of the plan, Coordinator Mc Conn .explained that the current application has been forwarded to DMR for their review and read the, et - ter received from the Regional Waters Office., Appropriate permits will: be required before road construction eould begin. hatrmdn Steiger Wald noted that the Commission will be re- viewing the development at the Final. Plat stage and that the comments and input from those in attendance: Is important. Mr. Coffet stated h shares the concerns regarding the pres- ervation of the witalife and Inquired if the plan preserves the water flow o that it will drain into the pond. He asked about requirements for buildable lot.s as it is diffi- wilt for him to see' how some of these: lots could be built on and yet preserve the setbacks and not enoroich intothe pend area, Page X planning Commission Minutes September 25, 1985 Cr Gai.r stated that the qr ,, ,ng and utility plans are re- viewed by the City Engineers,, that the drainage will be altered by the roadway oo str ctioni and, the water will be discharged to the wetiand area. He stated the DNR will study these plans before issuing a permit will assure that proper eater flow mils be maintained.. He, stated the lots are suitable for development as proposed and meet the Ordift- ance requirements with the exception Of the westerly lot where a variance for '.lob width is quested Engineer Sweeney explained that the Bassett Creek Watershed istri r Will also revise the development plans for this project. Carmen Vethel. 1OZ10 "est Avenue forth, stated he wants the wetland protected. He is In sight of the pond now and it is his opinion that fill will be required and he wants to knot, if DUR is in agreement. He noted that the Notice` he received mentioned variance ` for lot` size. Coordinator NoConn that the plans were modifled to meet the standards so only the variance for lot width for Lot 9, i.& requested. Audrey Freus,, 2925 Quaker Lane, stated that she has talked with Judy Boudreau, DNR, and was told that Graham Develop- ment has applied for a Permit and was told that the devel- oper gust prove there is no alternative for the roadway alignment Mr. Gain stated he has not talked with RNR for several, Meeks so could not respond to tis. Boudr au's most recent cot- ents* He stated that it is Important to note that the roadway for 29th Avenue meets Casty standards and the Layout providess a much .leeway to the pond as possible. He. stated they could possibly pull it -further to the west, but must maintain a ` safe curvature for the roadway, He noted that the removal of the illegal fill will increase the capa i.ty and size of the pond. Commissioner Magnus inqu r,- ., if there is any way to move the roadway and still w-Intaia<gr e curvature. Mr# Cain stated that some slight Adjustments could be made. Coordinator McConn stated that the € NR should not issue per - wits without the development being approved by the City, ;but the developer can make application to DNR. She noted that the development plan responds to the Thoroughfare Guide Plan of the City's Comprehensive pian and meets City requirements. Commissioner pauba inquired about an alternative such as allowing access to Trenton Lane and 31st Avenue North and eliminate ,the connection of 31st Avenue North and 79th Avenue. Pace 221 r iannl.n 1 commission minutes September 25t, '1985 Mr air explained the lei. cn igu ations and roadway arwood e qen 7 Sheridan Aver l€. staffed khatthis is a roan -made, net a natural: pend. He 'stated he has owned the property 1954 and had a quird n on this site. He no=ted that in, most years the area was dry and had no stano n water. lan Stensrud, 3105 Quaker Lane, `,stated that ha wantsh pond and Zetland preserved In response to Mr. Heggen, he stated the pond area has not been dry since V71. He en- couraged placementent df the roadway as far away as possible from the pond and assure that the storm eater syst",10 will provIide flow to the pond. Chairman el e Wald confirmed tit the drainage will be directed to the pend but explained that the pond is not part of the City's Storm eater Drainage Pan. Mr. Vethe stated It would be appreciated if the road ooul.d be planed as far to the west as possible w1iich' would be a reasonable compromise. Mr. Co feZ stated he would likee any alternatives examined to save the wetland, and that running 31st Avenue to Trenton Lane may be appropriate. Further discussion ensued on cul-de-sac's and roadway alignment. Mr. Lassen stated that the concern is the impact of the roadway on the pend and that removing the fill is net a concern.. Slam Held, stated he developed Timber Creek, and that the fill that DNR has Mated is illegal and should be removed was placed by Mr. Dempsey who has been asked for the last two years to remove it. Chairman Steigerwald confirmed that Graham Development'. .-till be required to remove the fill. Chairman Stelgerwald dosed the Public Hearing, MOTION byomm'issioner tulberg) seconded by Chairman el erwal to recd mend approval for the Preliminary Plat and Variance for Craham Development Company for Lake park Heights subject to the 10 conditions as stated in the September 16$ 1985 staff report and adding, Condition No. 11 to direct that the roadway will be aligned ,as far westerly as possible, per approval by the City Enqineer.. Page 222 Planning Commission Minutes September 25, 1985 Commissioner Stulberq stated that it Is the `oraaMlss n's responsibility to follow the Thoroughfare Guide Plan; and, the developer has assured they w ll cove the roadway as far west as possible but will need to provide, smooth traffic floe and assure the curvature;wil.l not be ha:zardous.- nd r- Chairman Steigerwald confirmed with Mr. Gair that he under- stands'the direction to place the roadway, further to thestandsthe crest and that trees should be planted on the east to buffer and screen the pond. Roll `all Vote. es. MOTION carried. tl T ##O Chairman, Stei e wale requested the Commission review the Final Plat ; and ', that staff send notice informing those who spoke this evening of haat meeting date Chairman Stei erwald Introduced the request by PernbyCorp- FERWY CORPORATIOM oration for "Arby's Roast Beef„ restaurant for Conditional FOR " Y"S, ROAST Use Permlt and Site Man Amendment. An overview of the EWFF RESTAURANT September ,1985 staff report was provided by Coordinator CONDITIONAL USE McConn. PERMIT AN ' SITE PLAN, NT (850% hairaaan Steigerwald Introduced Mr. Doug Kennedy, represent- ' in "Arby's" who stated he would respond to any questions Chairman Stei erwald opened the Public' Hearing. rry Sisk$ 14430 28th Place, stated his concern regarding the traffic which on occasion is backed up to Fernbrook Lane. He stated that in planning his site for the "Burger ' 11(ing" restaurant he was faced with the built-in traffic problems. He noted there will be two national restaurant c;hairts in the area with all the traffic going into this cul- de-sac. He stated that truck traffic cannot man,-aver, especially during the winter months4 ale stated it is imper- ative that the City take responsibility to correct the traf- fic problems or it could cause the businesses in the area to fa *,11 Chairman Stc lgerwald inquired about customer complaints. Mr. Sisk stated: they have had complaints which is the reason th+-y have installed the second drive-throtigh to improve the stacking. Mr. Sisk stated that perhaps the traffic could be routed through to Claoier Lane over what is aiw undeveloped property. Chairman Steigerwald statk!d`he agrees with these concerns and that the problem with the cul-de-sac should be brought out in theCommission's recommendation to City Council. Page 2Z3 plannint Commission Minutes September 25t 1955 ltjr. Sisk. stated ;that this problem should be handled by the City and It is,notfair to 'ask ,individual businesses , o solve these traffic problems. Coordinator ReConn explained the approved General Develop- ment Plan In response to questions from ; the Commission, C a4 ILA St i jerwal:d added that it was not apparent ,,when this Plan was approved how much traffic would be generated by, the fast food restaurants. Coordinator McConn stated that the improvements being Proposed by "Arby's will Improve the traffic circulation on their Site. Doug lWnn,%dy stated that they are increasing from 28 parking stalls tr. 50 and that tie drive-through and access to the building., wi, ie on the same side. He stated they appreci ate the concerns regarding traffle problems in the aarea, however, they don't want their,proposal delayed because of these concerns. Chairmanpan Ste Berwald assured him this would not be the case, but the City needs to address the traffr.o problem3.. Commissioner Stulberq concurred aid stated he agrees -,,,ith a connection to Glacier tune. Chairman Steiger• ..d encouraged r.. Sisk to repeat, ono ins "o the City Council. Chairman Steigerwal.d closed the Public Nearing. y,(#gjCj/'TICN by Comm-issiuner` Paubap seconded by Commissioner TI€ N T APPROVE Magnus to recommend apt .•oral 'dor Fernby Corporation for IAPI- Y l s Roast Beef*' restaurant for Conditional; Use Permit ano Slee Plan Amendment, subject to the conditions as stated in t1P September 6$ 1955 staff report. Roll Call Vote. Ayes. MOTION carried VOTE - TION, l! Commis°:loner Pauba stated this is a welcome improvement to the area. MOTION by Commissioner Stul.ber91 seconded by Chairman. OTION TO SOMEST Steigerwal.d to request to the City Council to review alte,°- COUNCIL REVIEW OF native methods for improving the traf `l.o e.iroulation In T CIRCULATION > Circle Star Business Center at 8th Place as a separate Item: and not as part of this applioation- Commissioner dire concurred stating that the fast food rest4urants will produce more traffic for this area. VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried., VOTE - NOTIO C WW BUSINESS MOTION by Commissioner Paubal seconded by Commissioner Wire R. 30HNSON CONST. to recommend approval for R,. Johnson Construction Company Pace 224 Planning Commission Minutes September 25, 1985 for a Site Plait to constructe an office/warehouse north of SITE PLAN (85067) 2 th Avenue and southwest of Medina Road, subject to the conditions _mss stated in the September 16, 1985 staff re- port. VOTE. Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE .: NOTION CARRIED MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner Wire C. EDWARD SHEENY o recommend approval for C. Edward Sheehy for a Site Plan SITE PtX1 AND and Variance for oonst'uctlon of an off ic-emanufAct rl.ncl AMA (85092) wareheuse at thenorthwest corner a" `"' (1hway 55 and Hinn a - polls Railroad, subjeot to the eo di.. s as stated in the September 16, IM staff report. VOTE.. 6 Ayes. MOTION VOTE - MOTION CARRIED =« carried. Chairman Stelgerwald introduced 1,, request by Mr., and Mrs.. NIEDE /GATES Robin Niederman and Mr.. and Mrs. 11 . e. Cates for Lot Corr LOT CONSOUD TION) soliddtion/Division and Variance, o the September DIVISION AND VARIANCE 16, 1985 staff report was waived. 5098) MOTION by C.ommlissioner Tire, seconded by Cogimissiqner Mellen TIO -14 TO APPROVE o recommend approval for the lot Con elJki,, Jon/0Jv1 Ion and Variance for lir. and Mrs. Niederman and M . and Mrs. hates, subject to the conditions as stated ia the September 162 1985 staff report. 1YOIE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. nTr, £ED Chairman Stelgerwald introduced the request by Scoville SCOVILLE PRESS Press for Site Plan Amendment and Variance. Reading of the SITE PLAN AMENDHENT September 16, 1985 staff report % s waived. AND, VARTA (85082) MOTION by Commissioner Magnin, seconded by Commissioner NOTION TO APPROVE S.' ulberq, to recommend approval. for Seo%, i I le Press i*or Site Plan Amendment and Variance, subject _ to the conditions as rated In the SeptoMber 16, 1955 staff report. V T :. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE -- MOTION CARRIED OTHER BUSINESS Coordinator ReConn discussed the future meeting schedule with the Commission and it was decided the Commission would meet jointlyly pith the Board of Zoning Adjustments and Appeals at their November 6, 1965 t,,ioetinq to begin at 51#45 P.M. as a dinner meeting to be followed by their regular meeting at 7.-30 P.M.- M.` ADJ MENTADJOURNMENT. The meeting adjourned at 1".15 P.M.