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JUNE 19t 1985
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called to order at 7,:30 P.M.,
S PRESENT. Chairman Stet erg ald, Commissioners
Wire Stulberg) Plufka, Mellen, and
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MEN"S, ABSENT.- Commissionertlagnus
STAFF NT* Community Development Coovdinator
Sara cConi-A
City Engineer Sherri Coldberq
Community Development Secretary
Brace Wi neman
CONSENT AGENDA
MINUTES
NOTION by ' Commissioner Plufka,, seconded by Chairman HINUTES 30t 12,
Stex etwald to approve the Dune 12, 1954 MbAultes as 1985
submitted..
OTE. 4 Ayes. Commissioners Stilalberg and Mellen al)stala- VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
ed. Motion carried
PUBLIC INS:
Chairman Stei erwald introduced the first. public hearing LUNDGREN BROTHERS
item and asked Coordinator t4c `onn for an overview of tha CSS? U TOR ,
June 10, 1955 staff report. RPUD PRELIMINARY
PLAN/PLAT AND
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Hr* peter Pflaum., President CONDITIONAL USE
of Lundgren Brothers Constru,tloti Company, who ..Mated that PERMIT AMENOMEW FOR
as a representative of Mission Nf rtnershrp, they de sioned HISIDNk TRAILS
this Planned Unit Development, which was the first one in 85035
the City of Plyouth. He stated that the PSD Plan is now, 11
years old, Be explained the various types of housing that
make up the development which in^lode townhomes, single
family dwellings, and, rental units. He noted that because
of the length of time It takes to develop a large; project
it is' difficult tri; predict the m,,,ret For the types of
housing contemplated within the pUIL He e pl lined that they
have returned to the Commission and Council on 5 different
occasions, to amend the UD Plan. He explained the original
concept plan noting the open space provided at that time and
what currently existsis and what is proposed. ; f4r, Pflaum
stated that this proposal is a tetter use of the ,land for
today's, market and that they are ;proposing attachedz housing
on future sites.
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Commissionerloner Pl. f a Inquired about the rode tlon in omen
space, and the developer's ahilit to Provide open space to
the various modules , created. , Mr. Pf laum, stated that when
the, PUf) was designed there was an abundance of open Spa-c.
lie that same of the, traits do not serve a useful pur- note
pose and that residents have inquired if some of the area by
Mission Ridgo 2nd can be deeded back to them. Commissioner
Pl:uf a stated he was not interested in the total area of
open :space,, but gas onct r that open space b a t d
for this phase to meet, the c;rit ria for rd r ati.onal' ameni-
tle,s and open spdoe. Mr. Pflaum stated that this, plan re-
ducesduces the d .ns1tty for this area by half and has the quality
of a singly family development which woul.dnot need the open
spare required for Multi.-family areas. He stated this
proposal would not hurt the overall project. CommisS1011or
lAufka stated that traditional single family plats are
required to have; a mini. um lot size of 18,,500 sq. ft. and
that some lots in this proposal are under 10,000- s ft, so
that private open space should be provided to the resi-
dents. 'lr . Pflaum maintained that smaller_ lots are desired
by today's home buyers and that; by cutting the density,
there is, even more space available with this plan.,
Chairman tee rwald end the Public Haring. ; u
Chairman telg rwald introduced Mr. Bob Donley, 11740 38th
g nu North, President of the MlIssion Hills Homeowner's
sooi..ation, who stated that Lundgren Brothers had mot with
the Assoc-1 tion. He stated that at fist they were not
amenable to this change: to the development, however, after
Mrs.. P l.aum explained the project, and, after visiting model,
homes in Wa y-ata they now support the project and see` no
detriment to the development as a whole. They concur with
the decrease of density and it is their feeling that the
open space currently provided is under utilized. The
rest
dont would like a trail sytem developed rather tnan leaving 1
the rain area undeveloped.
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Chairman SteigerwaId Inquired what negative thoughts the
A soui tion urioina .l.y had about the project. Mr. Donley
stated the; were concerned about the homes being sc all, they
preferred larder hums that ,could be comparable to those
already built in the neighborhood. He stated that Lundgren
Brothers considered this and agreed to larger lets atEver-
green Lane for transition. He stated after discussingthe
traffic patterns he felt thcre would he no'traffic problems-,
and, this-new Dian would he an improvement over multi-family
dwellings, that could increase traffic'' in the area.
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Chairman S eic erwalwd closed the ? elle Hearing.
s- Cottlml s oner Stulberg inquired at)out the. location of propos-
ed trail to the open space. Coordinator McConn stated thated
a 30 ft. trail ul to is rec r.:en ded on is 14 and 9., Black
to connect the open arenas.. She pointed out tile open space
within Mission Rld e 2nd Addition that was part of tile
original approval. The Devolopm nt Contract states "q
land was to be owned and mainta-fined by the, developer until a
Homeowner Association was <-stablish d which would then !;e
responsible for the area#
k Chairman Stetqerwald Inquired about the lineal open area,
the area to the Nvest in Mission Ridge 2nd Addition. sir.
f1du : stated that the open space tvaald perform as a buffer
and visual screen, He stated they don't Kttx, how to handle
rail systcam at this gine and are trying to fiqUre, a
area to provide the residents access to the Rpq onal.
Park.CooLdinator 1 cConn explained the the overall trail
ommissioner Wilro stat d he is concerned about the trail and
how it will connect to 36th Avenue North. Coordinator
Mc'onn explained the system which will be a comtbinatlon of
public and private trails.,
MOTION 6y Commissioner Stul,ber seconded by Commissioner 140TION
1 auba to recommend approval for Lundgren Brothers Construc- onstruc -
tiontionCompany RPOD PreliminaryPlan/Plat and Conditional Use
Permit Amendment for Mission Tral l s subject to the condi- ondi-
tionstions,as stated in the dune 10t 1985 staff report on the
bases that the additional detached housing is ;appropriate.
Commissioner Wire concurred that this is a reasonable change
to tilt PUD and is compatible with the ortoInal plan.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTIONoarried. VOTE NOTION CARRIED
r. Pflaum inquired if the Commission 11s comfortable with
the discussion of enlarging the size of _ the lots atEver-
green lune and requested the Final plat not be processed for
their review. Charman Steigerwald staed the Cmmt,ssion
understands and that with only a reduction of otte loot the
Commission review would not be required.
Chairman Steigerwald introdu,ved the Preliminary Plat and CITY OF PLYMOUTH
Final ; Pat application fir the City of Plymouth and. PRELIMINARY PLAT AND,
requested an overview by ,.00rdinator McConn. FI L PLEAT (85040),
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Commissioner Wire inquired about the guide plan: 0.4 sl l a -
tions; Coordinator McConn ext)1al ped the locationM, for the
Lei -1 and LA -2 guided areas, noting the consistency with 0e
Comprehensive Guide Plan.
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing.
Mr. Roger Knutson, 371 Rosewood Lane, stated he is repre»
s,!ntzn the Heritage Homeowner's Association, and 1 s con
cerned about plans for future park. Coordinator MaConn
stated .a party is anticipated to be constructed. on the north-
west side of Northwest 'Boulevard and is contemplated In tahe
5 -Year Capital m rov m nt Program with development of 4
neighborhood party in 1936. It is desirable that development
of the property and the park development occur concurrent-
ly.. The park is identified on the Comprehensive Plan,. her.
Knutson asked If the size of the park would he the same as
originally proposed? Coordinator McConn stated that park-
land or 7 to 10 acres could be consistent with the City's
e pectatlon for a neighborhood park. She invited Mr.
Knutson to talk; with Parti: and Recreation Director Eric Blank
for more Information. her* Knutson inquired about the guid-
Ing of the ad oinincq property to the north. Coordinator
M Conn confirmed that the quldinq 1 LA -2.
Chairman Steigerwald closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION Ery Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner MOTION
tulberg to recommend approval for the Preliminary Plat and
Final Plat for the City of Plymouth subject to the
conditions as stated in the June 61 1985 staff report
o l l Call 'dote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTIOR CARRIED
Chairman Steigervald introduced the next item and askedfor 014KROS - RVUD3014NKAROS
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an overview of the , f staff report dm ryLl f CO TPLAN!j yREL
atoA 4cw1 ts TNARY ANAT
ZONING AND
Chairman Stelgerwald started the Co m4ssion will discuss the CONDITIONAL 115E
concerns about a request for ra Planned Unit Develupment of PERMIT (85041
17 acres vs. the 40 acres as required byOrdinance)* and, the
deletion of this property from the h lssroa €1PUD by Council
Resolution.
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Rick Crathre, represent -
Ing the petitioner. Rr. ,attire stated that he was sorry
the narrative reflected that this lard was part of the
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Mission pkat this was to error, and they were unaware that
the land had been removed from the. PUD. He st :red the
would try to shoe that this parcel should have PUD status.
lie further explained that this land is part of the Parkview
Plat which is near other PU 's and Westminst rt a Subdiv-
Islon Unit Project which includes lots smaller than what is
al `ooed in the R - 1A Zoning District). He stated they are
tr°yi q to mirror the Westminster development. He noted that
the City Council did not want the area for public park.
They are requesting the waiver of size because of the loss
of bonus pointsi and, they A*fant to be considered as part o
the total: 40 acres the City now owns, which would meet the
size requirements for a PUD He noted the density proposed
is 14,8 units per acre if adjoiningg right -of --way is calculat-
d as part of the residential area.
Commissioner Steigerwald stated his concern abet smaller
lots and the future. residents In the development where n
play, area is .rovded for the dhildrentlr.'athre tater
that y'estnter also has this problem and that the Council
turned down their request for a public playgroundthere
will be a park across Northwest Boulevard. He noted that
even 'though there are no areas that will be commonly owned,,
it is his opinion that the lot layout provides yardspa e for
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children to play. He noted that the parcel is triangul r in
shape, and that the roomers have larger lots which can b
used for play areas. HI! stated that the loots are nearly the
same size as lots in standard plats. He also; noted the open
areas around the proposed church facility.
Chairman "Stei erwald stated it seemed presumptive to surmise
that the ,open spade at the church site oculd be used by the
residents or the area.; Mr. Sathre stated that Pastor Wyandt
was in attendance and that the church is anxious for a perm-
anent dome and would have no problem with children playing
on the church grounds,
Chairman StelgerwAd rioted the intense level of development
leaving no "elbow room, for the future residents) that both
roedways, carry alot o traffic; arid, with no special focal
point ofor a play area the, children would be landlocked.
lir. Sathre stated' this is a problem for the whole area in-
eluding Westminster, and even it the proposal were not for
PUD the -problems would be the same. He -noted that families
living, in standard plats walk to neighborhood parks. :oord-
Inator McConn stated that this lot layout shows a number of
the lots which are much smaller than in a conventional.
plat. She noted the ,iossibili y that homeowners may fence
off their property which limits any overall benefit of the
larger Lots. She'confirmed there is public park area, how-
even there is no }l,ann for common open space on this site.
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Chairman Steigerwald reiterated the requirements that a pllll
call must provide comron open space for, the residents. Mr.
athre stated he feels they t, -et thy; criteria for affir ra-
t.ive design and that the-€rlInal
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single family lots in this area, and they are proposing ..
Chairman teigerwald noted that the 27 single family lots
did not contemplate the area taken by the church facility.
Mr* Sathre stated the church wi,i l.d provide transition to the
busy street ant' makes this p aver worthwhile* He stated they
have done the best they can with a difficult piece of prop-
erty, and that even though the economic concerns 'erre not
considered as part of the difficulty in developing the lard;
they don't feel the plan is ' rriablc, without the church and
the PUD status.
Commissioner Pluf a inquired about the access request to
the church site, noting he concurred with the staff reeom-
mendat ion, lr. Sathre stated he has discussed access with
the church representatives and they feel strongly that the
tryo accesses meet them needs. He stated they understand
staff's concern but felt that the statement regarding short -
cutting is not realistic-. They feel. it makes sense to have
the two accesses for better traffics controlithey would chain,
f one access using it only during church functions
ohn faros, 3545 rosewood lane;. stated that every though the
church proposes a small structure at this time Viey desire
to retain the two access points for future growth.
Commissioner erre stated he concurs with Coordinator
M onn's statement that some residents of the area may
install fences 'which will eliminate space for children to
play. He stated that he feels the church building is
positioned properly and he does not see why there should be
any concern about the second access.
Mr, Karos stated that in regard to open space, there are
Arany children in areas who have only their yards to play in;
and, that Plymouth has a fine pare system that can be used
by all residents. He reiterated that. , this. parcel is di fi,-
cdlt to develop because of its shape; and that they should
not be forced into the technical requirements.. He stated
this plan could be compatible with the: surrounding neighbor-
hoods7 and the church Is. a buffer to the busy street. He
noted the `parcel's Isolation because of the construction of
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Chairman t l erwald exv0l,, .tied that, the Commission mustc*n-
slder how far thev can qo with h request for PUDstates
where the eriterla and at.trlt.utes vkj!) tet* Mr. Kdros
reiterated that it is the say js Westminster. Mr. Sathrte
stated that if the Commission ahnot support their ar u-
ments1 at least they can Sed that they are not requesting,
too much density, but are making the best proposal they can
for this property,
Chairman Stelgerwald stated the o i in does have
a liver 'to the future homeowners.,
Chairman igenwa pned the Pu Lie Hearing.
Peg Schaefer, 3045 Oakview Une, st,ited she represents the
Westminster development and that at 4 meeting held recently
they prepared ii petition"which contains 50° signatures. She
read the petition to the Commission 'which included their
request for dental unless-. The existing trees' and souther-
ly pond are retained; and, that there is private open space
provided,. She stated that as a homeowner In Westminster she
fully understands about children playing in yards, and that
it can"t be expected that people, will allow neighborhood
children to make their private property into playgrounds.
She noted the small lots proposed and is concerned about a
decrease in the value o their homes4 She stated that if
the plan is approved, the developer Should be required to
screen the area from the adjacent neighborhoods. She sug
Bested that the size of the church acreage be decreased to 4
acrs thus to vinq; room for private open space for the
residential development; and that all the ` church buildings
be at aOtleu. She stated they wart no permits issued for.a
school kit the church for any age group. The >church Its a
diad use$ but to use it for transition is a joke. :She
stated she undorstands the ity" s concern about two accuses
to the ethurch property; ands ttlat, only one access should be-
allowed. eallowed.
Chairman Steigerwatd asked ter. Sathre to comment on their
plans for the trees' and the pond area. lir. Sathre stated
they Intend to save the treel ne at the property tine. How-
ever, some trees around the pond will be remove(t because o
improvements needed for drainage in this area. It is plan- '
ned to deepen tiie pond So that it will hold water year
round. He rioted that some trees will need to be removed
upon construction of the church parking lot, but that a
landscape plan would he submitted and would meet , the
dinance standaids.
Chairman Stelgerwald otated that in reference, to the price
of the housing, the developer is not required to commit to a
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price range for the housing. lir. Sathre stated that it IS
sg(ies ed that h homes range from the 's upward to
140,000.00. He stated that qtr. Karon belle es there is an
opportunity to build high value ho les; here because of the
firm .Interest that has been expressed In this development.
Mr. faros further explained the dictates of the economy a,d
the desires of the home buyers.
Mr. Satbre spoke to the concern about buffering and sortie) ..
Ing and noted It is their opinion the church will provide
the neeess ry separation and transition to the neighborhood
and the Northwest Boulevard. lie exp.l i.ncrd the plan for the
church and noted that those in the single family residential
area will not be able to see the parking lot, only the
church building.
Mr. Bitt flora, 3045 Rosewood Lane, stated he doesn't under-
stand the calculations used for.densi.ty. Mr. Sathre ex-
plained the calculations, Mr. Clora stated his concern re-
gardi.ng th southerly pond and the fact that Westminster
residents use this area. He stated the diesel garage shown
on the plans is near residential lots and should be roved.
He concurred with Ms., Schaefer that a school or day care
facility should be restricted from the church,
halrman Steigerwald explained t. need for Conditional Use
Permita for these uses which would need to be reviewed by
the Commission and Council.
Coordinator McConn verbally listed the different lot sizes
as proposed.
Mr. Ciera stated he has no objection to a church facility,,
but expressed concern about the size of the structure.
Chairman Steigerwald explained that they are reviewing
concept and preliminary plan only; if appy oared,: the Commis-
sion will. be reviewing more detailed plans at future
meetings.
Carol Brownell,'3060 Rosewood lane, stated that the chil.dr,n
in Vie tminster play in the streets; that at one time the
Pares and llecreat icon Department proposed an area for the
neighborhood but that, the City Council voted it down. The
neighborhood bid open space originally, but with the con-
struction of highway 61 much of the open area was elimin-
ated, The pond this development would drain is important to
the ate-ighbdncod and to the' wildlife in the area, and the
trees should be retained. She is not opposed to the church
but is concerned about the building size, and hca.ght ,and
lights from the parking lot which could impact surrounding
residents.
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Coissioner Plufka noted that as the Commission discuses
the PUD attributes, the Commission can only be concerned
with the open space needs for this proposed development and
cannot consider til lack of open spar e in other
neighborhoods.
Chairman Stelg rwald introduced Pastor Lee Wyandt, 7764
Arlington Ave. N., Brooklyn park, Pastor Wyandt stated the
church will not harm the neighborhood and they want to work
with all the residents to he an integral. part of the com-
munl.ty tie explained the garage is not Intended to be, a
diesel Er§ garage also they would not want It to have a bad
effect on ether property, and they would be sura that 'fight-
Incl from the parking lot would not impact the neighborhood.
He descirbed what would be the first phase of the church,
He noted they do want the second access to handle expected
traffic on Sundays. Chairman Stelgerwald l.nguiredt and was
informed by Pastor Wyandt that they plan spaces for 40 to 50
vehicles to the first phase.
Coordinator McCona explained this information is helpful in
identifying the scope of the development, however, the Com-
mission .must make a determination on the land iss es* She
noted that detailed site plans will be reviewed as the
project mares Forward. Chairman Stelgerwa o reiterated, the
conceptual nature of this proposal.
Mr. pay 'eager, 3060 Oakvlew Lane, stated his eoncern about
tale possibility of a school at the church and that he is
opposed to the construction of the %are.
Peg Schaefer inquired if the church could provide a school
for just their members ,and could they ruin it 7 days a week.
Coordinator McConn confirmed the Ordinance identifies
churches and private schools as a conditional use. Chairman
Steigerwald inquired of pastor Wyandt whether the church
contemplates Monday through Friday school. Pastor Wyandt
stated there were no plans at this time.
tr.. Saeger expressed concern about the screening and berminq
and retention of trees. Mr. Sathre explained tine plans to
preserve the trees and natural vegetation$ eqo reconfirmed
their plans for the ponding area*
Chairman Ster.gerwald stated that specific liodscape require-
ments would be finalized at the Final Plat and Site ,plan
stage of this development. lie inquired if the church would
reoonsider the construction of the garage. pastor Wyandt
stated they could consider its attachment to the church.
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Chairman Steigerriald suggested that the residents beep in
touchy with Paster Vivandt regarding future plans for the
church site.
Richard Wel.blen, 3020 Rosewood Lane, stated that he thought
movZng to the suburbs would assure him of a residential
atmosphere, and he is disappointed in the development
proposal for this land. He Is deposed to the location of
the parking lot and feel$ the church Is not a proper use for
the property. He com aented on the loss of the residential
flavor of the neighborhood with the construction of Highway
61 and that it looks as though other neighborhoods are gong
to be impacted by these high traffic areas. He wondered if
the City is looking at all captions for development in
Plymouth. He stated this development should have large
lots and better buffering to adjacent neighborhoods,
Chairman Steigerwald explained that the developer has the
right to submit development flans, Kind It is the City's res-
po slhi.l*ty to review them to assure that they meet the
City's Ordinances. The Commission can recommend dental and
the Council can take action o deny the proposal if it is
not appropriate.
Mr. Welblenstated his concern that the church will be
detrimental to the property values of ' thle resident- in, she
area, and that the parking lot and garage will make lane
homes in the area less saleable.
Irk Clora stated that it seems the developer, in requesting
a waver from the PUD requirements, is not proposing lots
that will support expensive homes such as stated by the
developer and his consultant. He stated the developer
should be required to fulfill, the ,requirements for a PUD.
Chairman teit er,.,Yald closed the Public Hearing-, and toe RECESS
meeting recessed at 9:27 P.M.
Chairman Stelge wall reconvened Ithe meeting at 9:35 P.M. and
state that the, Commission would discuss their concerns re-
garding the PU4) attributes and criteria. He stated he
appreciates the difficulty in developing thle piece of
property but that the lack of private open area for the
residents is of great concern. In allowing smaller loots,
si - there still needs to be open space provided for the resi-
dents. He sta4ed that because the Westmlinster developmentdents.
lacks open spade there is even more reason that this dev-
elopment should provide the necessary amenities to their
residents.
Mr. faros stated there is nothing more he can do, the econ-
orics, the cost of the improvements, make it impossible to
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o any more with this parcel. He stated there is pare
across the =roadand a trail would he provided at tele north
end of the property which leads to open space along the
creed:.. He stated rood City parts are provided in Plymouth
and as .g as b ou.,kit out, the City did not grant to plan a part
for this land. e r. -Iterated ttiat the church provides
transition ,and
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a buffer`- to Northwest Boulevard; that the
housing is compatible with homes in the neighboring ar asl
and, that there is much dnuse hle space within this parcel.
Chairman Seel erwald requested the developer show flexr»
hl.lity$ In providing private open space. Mr. Karos stated
they can do no more and that this is a reasonable use for
this land
Commissioner pauha stared his concern ` that, this development
would have the same problems as 6estmin te. Mr4 Karos
stated that glue to the decimation of the property this
development proposal is the only option.
Commissioner Pl.dfka stated the Commission's posl.tion is to
review an undersized PUD and to consider all the Ordinance
previsions; he agreed that the lot s4zos are compatible, but
that the development shut provide the FEUD attributes, and,
tha; useable recreational open space is vital. He noted
that th affirmative design and natural site. characteristics
are very limited.
Further discussion ensued regarding any possibility for re-
design to gain open space. Mr. Sathre su est4,_d a modl.fica-
tlon of design to provide private open; area in Vie southwest
area. fie explained that they are a ktnq for the waivers
because they are part of 40 contiguous acres. Coordinator
fleConn explained that the City is not proposl,de a Planned
Unit Development and the developer has not addressed the
total site.
Further discussion ensued regarding density. Chairman
eiyerwalc stated that the developer'` is proposing homes
whereas by Ordinance standards, 17 units would be allowed.
Commissioner 'IV%re stated he feels the developer could pro-
vide a different layout that would preserve. more of the
natural vegetation and trees. Mr.. Sathr stated that rad -
Ing along the Creel ne would he necessary for the church
parking ,area, however, they could look at a plan that would
retain some trees on the delineators.
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Chairman Stelgerwald nqi-ti red if the church would consider
less acreage to rt,.t4o sp<aeefor the residential develop-
ment #
e elop-
ment. ter. Sathre stated the church requires, 6. acres.
Pastor Wyaridt stated the- church was looking for 7 to 10
acres, ;but Feels ttieie 6 acres maeVtheir requirements.
Peg Schaefer ta:ted that with respect tof, open .space for this
de elo menta just a few of the church parking stalls and the
garage could be eliminated which could give the development
the needed common open area. She stated that el t"An tion' of
the garage would also diminish the feelinq that property in
the area would d,, devaluated. She concurs that 23 units is
too many, and that this parcel' (1t)cs not meet the U
requirements.
titOT10H by Commissioner Stulber9t seconded by Commissioner 1401ION TO tiii4 R
lufka; to recommend deferral ` with red sion to meet the PUD
at ributes-- to xsta , within the density as outlined by the
Zca inq Ordinance. to provide suitable r*e re t ton l open
space;, and retain the natural site ahar icteristies :such all
the mature trees on site.
Commissioner Wire concurred. Commiss ; Fvr St dlierg stated
it appeared the petitioner dial have =iofne ptions for
redesido.
Mr. Karos requested that the Commission deny the proposal sV
that ht: could go on for City Council action. He stated that
time is a problem and that deferral is tantamount to denial.
Ill this case.
Chairmen Steiger ald stated that if there is potential, for
r+ des n, the City Council rio' sl,d sand the proposal back to
thy: plaannI g Commission. Mr. Maros stated that with this
delay he would heed to w4ttidrdw the proposal. He stated; he
understands the Commission's hesitation$ however, he has
commitments to builders who would have no interest in th:s
property in November or December,, Mr. Karos ` suggested a
recommendation subject to design changes.
Commissioner Stulh-'rq statod he. understands Mr.' Karos' eon-
cerr t but it is "el;t that the points made concerning pos-
sible redesign have merit. Mr. Xaros reiterated his desire
for Commission recommendation for denial.
Commissioner Wire stated he would be agai,,st dental, and
that it is important for the petitioner to understand that.
the City Council cannot be expected to consider a major're-
uesi gra that has not been reviewed by the Commission.
The meting adjourned at 10:115 P-
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Commissioner Plufka stated the develxi er has the right t
yet a determination from the City Couneit but there is neurit
In taming the time to submit a redesign for Cottnission
consideration, as there is merit It, the Project
Rall C,111 Vote. 6 Ayes. 140TION carried. VO T M0TI;)N CARRIED
Mr. Karns reiterated that tie doe not wish to redesign., and
that everything that can he done has been done with this
plan. requestct hc mrr a>Jo to econsid t it
action and rc: rommenc etther approval or denial.
MOTION try Commissionor Wire, seconded by Chairman MOTION, FOR
telgerwal.d to reconsider the recommendation for deferral. RECONSIDERATION.
Vote. 6 Mays, MOTION failed. VOTE MOTION FAIIIED
OTHER BUSINES.,-t
Coordinator McConn requested ,any reeommtind tions fo^ Agenda
Mems for the ulnt Meetinq of the Planning Commis lon an
City{ Council. Commissioner Mellen suggested the Commission
request an update on "Downtown Plymouth". Commissioner erre
stated the Council should define the role of the: Commission
as to the Capital Improvements Project IP Public
Hearings. The Capital Improvements Program schedule Was
given to th<1 Commission.
Coordinator McCann reviewed the .Menta coming tip on the July
91 1985 Planning Commission meeting.
AWOURNMENT
The meting adjourned at 10:115 P-
RECOWCODED COND-ITIONS31IME 19, 1985 PLANNING CO iMl l N MEETING FOR RESIDE14TIAL
PLANNrD lt ll DEVELOPMENTENT P FLIM ly PLAH/PLA Ail til 103A USE 'It, a AMENDMENT
F l,.Ul P l BROTHERS 41 119 -1 t 9 A Y (65035)
1. Compliance with the, CityEngineer's Memorandum.
7. Removal of all bead or dying trees m the property at the owner's x n + .
i. No Building Permits shall bessu until a Contract has been awarded for sewer
and water.
Provisions, for d 50 ft. wide trait outl.ot per Comprehensive lark Plan to be
located between Lits 8 and 9, Block Zs as verified by the Parrs and Engineering
Departments, with submittal of detailed plans as to construction of the trail
per City standards.
5. Payment of park dedication lees -in -lieu of dedication with appropriate credits
in an amount determined according to verifieu acreage and pavinq costs and de -
cording to tete Dedication Policy in effect at the time of filing the Final Plat.
Street names shall comply with the City Street NamingSystem-
7. No Buildlog Permits shall be issued until the Final Plat is filed ,and recorded
with Hennepin County.
Final _Plat myl.ars stall refer to PUD No. 76-1.
9. Annrooriate legal documents regardinq Homeowner Association documents, covenants
and restrictions as approved by the City Attorney, shall he filed with the Final
Plat.
10. Approved setbacks are: 25 "fit. front yard, 20 ft. rear yard, 6 ft sidle. yard and
9 rt. side yard with no less than 1,5 ft.,between structures except for a deck
for models 2.20 and 3,10 which may have a 6 f t. side yard setback if located
opposite a substantially windowless wall of the house on the adjacent lot.
11. The Final Plan/Plat application shall include sign construction details. There
Sh ll be a property covenant for monument sign maintenance over, the entire
subdivision, as approved by tete City Attorney, su(*h :ovenants to be filed .prior
t. issuance of a sign permit. Appropriate easements for the location of the
signs on the property shall be filed prior to issuance of a Sign Permit.
1 . Maximum lot coverage by scructures shall
I
be 20 percent per Ordinance
calculations.
13. Overall RPUD density is hereby amended to allow a maximum of 650 units with a
potential ,Increase of 20 percent .for up to 780 units, should provisions be made
for low and moderate income units, coosistent with parameters Identified in
Resolution No. -348.
RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR JUNE19, 1985 P'Lil.,1I COMMISSION MEIN ICOR PRELIMINARY
PLAT FOR THE CITY OF iLYM.OU`C'H 0 0)
1. Compliance with the City Engineer's Me nr4dum.
Park dedication will e finalized in accordance with the edicti€rn Policy i
effect at the time of subsequent applications for Outlots B and C.
Rezoning shall be finalized with subsequent development applications.
m. No Building Permits shall be issued until Out.lcts B anti C are subsequently
approved for development and appropriate pats are recorded. ed.
5 Flo development variances are granted or implied.
Access shall be to Northwest Blvd. and to West Medicine Lake rlve p+ olfi
access points sf all be determined at the time of subsequent planning/platting
proposals.
Tr ahs tinnal screening end l crnir q shd1l e provided along Northwest' lvd , t
e addressed aal finalized with the subsequent p.ianning/platting proposals
res/pane ( i.ty)l
RECOMCNOW COMMONSFOR UNE 19, 1985 t Nl lG COMMl lO1E'ETIN TO BF M[,'T PRIOR TO
FILTMG OF AND RELATED TO FINAL PLAT FOR CITYPLYMOUTH05040)
4. Compliance with the CityEngineer's Memorandum.
Rezoning , the ptoperty skull be finalized with subsequent development applications.
3- Park dedication will be finalized in accordance with City Policy in effect -at the
time of subsequent applications for,Outlots 8 and G.
4. too Building Permits skull. be Issued until a Contract has been awarded for the con»
struction of municipal- serer and eater.
5. kko development variances are granted or implied.
6. o Bultding Permits to be issued until. Outlots 13 and C are subsequeatly approved
for development and appropriate plats are recorded.
7 Access shall be to Northwest Blvd, and fest Medicine take Drive and shalt be
determined . the time of subsequent Manning/platting, proposals.
8. Transitional :screening and berming shalt be provided along Northwest blvd., to be
addressed and finalized with the, subsequent planninghlattl -9 proposals.
r'est,une. city)