HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 11-14-1984CITE OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNINQ COMISS1,N3 MINUTES
NG'VTMM 14, 1984,
called to order at 7.35 P.M.
NEHBM Pte' Ti Chairwoman Vasll:lou, < Commissioners
Wire, Magnus, Stulberg- Stelgerwal:d,
Plufka and Pauba.
STAFF PRESENT-. Community Development Coordinator
Sara McC nn
City Engineer Sherm Goldberg
Community Development Secretary
Grace Win man
MINUTES
MOTION y Commissioner Stelgerwat.d seconded by Commissioner
Plufka to approve the Ma notes of Octob-r 24, 1954 as
submitted. Vote. 6 Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg abstained.
P013LIC WIJUMCS
Chairwoman Vasiliou introduced the request by Tom Bluth, PM TOM BLOTH, PM PIZZA
Pizza,, Inc... for a Conditional Use Permit for a Class 11 INC* d/b/a PIZZELLI'S
restaurant with carry-out and dell ve-y service,,. The
restaurant is to be located within the new Willow Grove
CONDITIONAL USE
iER:T ( 92)
Shopping Center at 20 Nathan Lane. Reading of the October
301-1984 staff report was-
waived-Chairwoman Vasillou opened and closed the Pub11.c nearing ; a
there was no on presentt, to spew on the iter.
MOTION by Commiss' ner Stulberg, seconded by Ccrnm ss oner RECD NOATIDN A
Steigerwald to recommmend approval of the Con `.itional Use
Permit for Tont Bluth, PM Pizza, Inc.- d/b/a P,lzzellils,
subject to the conditions as .stated in the draft Resolution.
VOTE. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE MOTMOTIOP4 CARRIED
Charwoman Vasil-ou introduced tho request by Wallace WALLACE E. SCHE Ft
Scheer,President, F S Investments 'ror a Lot Division and, E'er F & S INVEST-
Conti tional Use Permit for property within the Chippewa MENTS FOR LOT DIV-
Trails subdivision. Chairwoman Vasiliou asked Co-ordinator ISION AIND,CONDITIONAL
McCona to review the staff report dated. October 30, 1984. PERMIT AMENDMENT
Commissioner Plufka inquired If the site yard. setbacks ,-could
be 10 ft. Coordinator MoConn responded the side yard
setbacks would be 15 ft. Commissioner Plufka inquired
whether the actual; building width could be 55 ft.
Coordinator McCann answered a firmativelyo
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November 14f 9,-'
Chairw%% . ran Vas ; opened the public Hearing.
Chairwomatg Vasi liou introduced Mr. dim Minor, 11805 27th
v%.1*'t-ae North. Mr. Minor stated he had no coaments or
guti:tins
Chairwoman Vasil.i,ou introduced Mr,, Lee Martin, 11525 27th
Avenue Nort 4 Mr. Martin stated his property is on the east
side of the proposed lots, and his concern is that, once
divi.dpd. the lots will be very narrow. He inquired how
these lots would develop, in terms of frontage, and how the
homes would be placed on the lots. He statedhis 'concern
about having someone` "in his backyard".
Dale Florek, representing the petitioner, state, it is In
tended that Par er A, have a 2,500 sg ft. home with walk-
out, and is being constructed for the southern exposure.
C mmissioner Pl fka inquired or-, the width of the house,
Mr. Wallace Scheer showed the building plans to those in
attendance, and stated that both lots will be larger than
neighboring lots. He stated the home fits the lot with no
problems. He st;,ted the placement of the house on the lot
will tare advantage of the high ground, and will be set back
fay° enougn nor to impact Mr. 1'fartlnts property.
Chairwoman Vasi.liou closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner Wire RECOMMENDATION B
to recommend approval for a Lot Division and Conditional Ose
Permit Amendment fir Wallace Eo Soheer, President,, F &
Investments, for property located northeast of Medicine La;
Drive and 26th Avenue North, subject, to the conditions as
stated in the draft Resolution.
VOTE* 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - i ITON CARRIED
Chairwoman Vasill.ou' introduced the request of Mr, Dean A"SBAI"i
Aasijauah for a Conditional else Permit Amendment to Increase COMITIONAL USE
the size of his dogkennel within eche FRO (future restricted PERMIT AMENDMENT
development) meat) Uistrl pt," t his residenceShe asked for 83048)
review of the Noveoiber 1, 1984 staff report.
Chairwoman Vasil lou 'stat d ' that four of the Commissioners
had visited the ,mite, and it was, noted that the Commission-
ers had received the pet titin prepared by those neighbors in
opposition to the renewal. (if the Conditional Use Permit and
Kennel. ;License.
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November 14 1984
Chairwoman ' asillou, opened the Publ io Hearing.
Chairwoman Vdsil.icu ' introduced Mir. Dean Amsbaugh 16910
County Road 47, and stated that those complaints received
alluded to barking dogs he explained she talked with
neigbbors who stated the dogs bark when the A sbaughs are
not at home.
Mr, Apv, baugh stated that ,10 of the adult dogs have been de-
barked and:; it was his recollection that this was done in
August of this year, he commented that 8 other dugs had been
debarked* however they are no longer at the residence. He
explained that these are show dogs, their vocal cards have
been removed, and they car, no longer bark. He told the Com-
mission he has two of the dogs in his camr, and if the Com-
mission wanted to see the; dogs, he would bring them into the
building.
Chairwoman Vasi.liou commented that a petition with 16 signa-
tures had been received from neignbors who have riot been
bothered by any noise from the kennel. Mr. Amsbaugh stated
that he had spoken with neighbors who are within 1000 ft. of
hTs property, and, they .indicated they do .not have a"problem,
with the kennel. Chairwokian Vasi.11ou Inquired i.f It is.
acceptable practice to debark show dogs. ft Amsbaugh
explained time debarking procedures and stated that If a dog
that had been altered in this manner were to win a show,,, it
may be challenged and disqualified. He added that it was a
voluntary decision to have the dogs debarked.
Chairwoman Vas lieu commented there is a barn on the proper-
ty and inquired if the dogs could be housed in this stru4-
tune. Mr. Amsbaugh stated it would be very costly to modify
the barn to house the dogs. Chairwoman Vasiliou inquired ,if
he had; considered constructing a ,sound barrier. Mr. Ams-
batigh stated that he would consider this, but would 'need' to
check into the cost. He stated that neighbors had informed
film they haat talked with an engineer from 3-M Company, who
su ges%.ad that a'fence be constructed adjacent to the kennel
at a height of $ ft., and 3 inches thick. Mr. Amsbaugh
stated this would trap beat within the runs which could be
harmful to the dogs, and again the cost would bepro-
hibitive.
Chairwoman Vasillou reiterated that on her visit to the site
she did not hear excessive noise from the kennel, and that
City staff had inspected the <site : and dial" not find a prob-
lem with barking,-: however, there have been commaplaints filed
regarding noise from ' the kennel. Mr: Amsbaugh stated that
his next doer neighbor was originally opposed to, the opera-
tion of the kennel, _ but has stated he has.not been bothered
by any noise from the kennel.
Cr
alleviated) the number of dogs should nog be Increased,
Planning Commission Minutes
November 4 1954
Commissioner Pltjfka stated that the property to the north
seems to be, subjected to a greater degree by the sounds of
barking dogs; and, perhaps a shield against the noise could
be provided* He stated he Is not comfortable with denying
renewal of the Permit, but ca°snot see incr asi ng the number
of ; dogs, He stated he dates not agree with a renewal in six
months, and it should remain at one year.
MOTION to AMEND by Commissioner Pl,ufka, seconded; by Commis- MOTim TO AHM
stoner Wire for renewal. of Condi,ttonal. Use Permit for one
year..
Poll Cali, Vote. 5 Ayes.; Chairwoman Vasi'liou and Commis- VOTE ON NOTION TO
stoner Stulberg Nay.. MOTION carried. O - CA.' IED
Vote on MAIN MOTION as oncti AMENDED. 5 Ayes. Chairwoman VOTE ON MAIN MTI
Vasis.ioj and Commissioner Stulber Nay.; MOTION carried. ONCE A OM
MOTION CAF IED-
eomm ,ssioner Wire reiterated that the petitioner should re-
mi4n aware of the concerns of the neighbors to the north,
and work out :these problems.
Chairwoman Vasiliou advised teat the neighbors with concerns
need: to document specif tc complaints.
Chairwoman Vasiliou called a recess at 8.-50 P.M. The RECD s
meeting reconvened at SS57--P*M.
Chairwoman Vasillou, introduced the request of Dale DALE KRTHTAUME
Se t i ume for MPUD Final plan/Plat, Conditional Use Permit, WUD FINAL PLAN/PLAT
Site Pian and Variances, for property located south of CONDITIONAL USE
County Road 3 and north and east of Annapolis Lane. She Pr--RMITV SITE '
stated that a staff memorandum had been forwarded, explain- AND 'VARIANCE (84023),
ing that revised pens had been received subsequent to the
printing of the October 30, 1984 staff report, and that
staff had not had time to review these plans prior to ;.his
hearing. Staff listed the options for the Planning Commis-
sion*- Recommend approval. of : the application as submitted;
recommend denial; of the application; or defer 'action with
direction as to redesign or submittal of new information,
MOTION by Commissioner Steigerwald, seconded by Commissioner RECOMWNDATION AOR
Pauba to recommend deferral. of the appl le ttoi until such DEFERRAL
time that staff and the petitioner can return to `the Commis-
sion with complete pians and reports.
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Commissioner Plufa stated that the property to the north
seems to be subjected to ;a greater degree by the sounds of
barking dogs; and, perhaps a shield against the noise could
be provided. He stated he Is not comfortable with denying
renewal of the Permit, but cannot see increasing the number
of ; dogs. He stated he dog's not agree with a renewal , in six
months, and it should remain at one year.
µMOTION to AMEND by Commissioner Pl.uf ay seconded by Commis- MOTION
TO sioner Stulberg ,for renewal. of Conditional Use Permit
for one
year, Roll Call. Vote. 5 Ayes. Chairwoman Vasil lou and Commis- fort ON MOTION
TO sioner 8tulberg tray, MOTION carried. A_ -
CARRIED Vote on MAIC! MOTION ,as once AMENDED. 5 Ayes. Chairwoman VOTE ON MAIM 140T.
ION Vasillou and Commissioner Stulbe.rg Nay. MOTION carried. OCE
ADDED TION
CARRIED Commissioner Wire reiterated that the petitioner should
re= main aware of the concerns of the neighbors to the
north, and work out these
problems. Chairwoman Vasil ou advised that the neighbors with
concerns reed to document specific
complaints. Chairwoman Vasitiou called a recess at 8,-50 P,M. The
RECESS meeting reconvened at 8'x57 P#
M. Chairwoman Vasiliou Introduced the request of Dale DALE
KTHIAUME Herthieume for HPUD Final. Plan/Plat, Conditional Use Permit, WUD FIN PLAN/
PLAT Site Plan and Variances, for property located south of CONDXT.TONAL
USE County Road, 9 and north and easy of Annapolis bane, She PERMIT„ $ITC'
PLM stated that a staff memorandum had been forwarded, explain- AND VARIANCE (84017-
3) ing that revised plans had been received subsequc o. to
the printing of the October 30, 1984 staff report, and
that staff had not had time to review these plans prior to
this hearing. $taff listed the options for the Planning
Commis- sion: Recommend approval of the application as
submitted; recommend denial of the application,- or defer aetion
with d1reotion as to redesign or submittal. of ;new i
formation, ON by Commissioner Stelgerwald, seconded by Commissioner RECOMMENDATtOR
FOR auba to reco)nmend deferral of the application, until such
DEFERRAL time that staff and the petitioner can return, to the
Commis- sion with complete plans and
reports. Coordinator McCbnn advised the Commission they could
held the Public Hearing to receive input. The Commission
declin- ed stating the hearing should be re -
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November 11+,t 1984
Mr. Vern Watten, representing the petitioner, was concerned
thrre was a misconception on the part of the Co fission rf,--
garding the revisions on the plans submitted, He stated
that these were minor revisions reflecting those its.,!ns list-
ed In staff correspondenccy and be was merely accommodating
that request by staff* He stated his need for direction
from the .staff and the Commission.
Chairwoman Vasil,iou stated that it would be inappropriate
for the Commission to discuss the item without a complete
review and full report from staff. `
Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried. COTE {1N MOTION TO
O'EN - CARRIED
Chairwoman Vasiliou explained 'that there would be re-notifl -
catlon of the Public Hearing. She asked Coordinator McConn
about a meeting date for this item. Coordinator McConn
stated It could be tenta4 ve for the: first meeting 'in Decem-
ber, subject to review of the revised plans.
Mr. Vern batten inquired, if plat approval, could be granted
this evening. Chairwoiian Vasiliou stated the application
would receive full oonsideration at their December meeting#
Aw NEW PUSINESS
Chairwoman Vasil.iou introduced the request by 'Honeywell, L, INC.`
Inc. for Site Plan Amendment, Variances, and Lot Consolida- SITE FLX..
tion to allow the construction > of prIlvate recreational Wf'rg :: AND
amenities to be used by employees. Reading of the November LOT CONSOLIDATION
2, 1984 staff repot was waived.. A-151
Chairwoman. Vast' liou introduced George Mellen, refivesenting
Honeywell, Inc,, and inquired about the status of the noise
problem described by neighbors during Commission considera-
tion of an application by Honeywell for a Conditional Use
Permit. Coordinator McConn advised the Commission that
H -Honeywell is working on this problem,, has met with the
neighbors, and is pursuing effeotive control of the noise.
Mr.. Mellen confirmed that they had hired a consultant and
were going to install equipment to alleviate the problem.
MOTION by Comms s loner Wire, seconded by Commissioner, MaCgnus RECOM ENDATION _~
to re I — end approval of a Site Plan Amendment, Var1ances,
and Lot ton so idation for Honeywell, Inc. for property
located at 12001'Highway 53, subject to the conditions
stated in the draft Resolution.
Vote, 7 Ayes. MOTION carried, VOTE - "OTION CARRIED
Ioners thanked Honeywell for the time spent w thTheCommisHoneywell
the neighbors, and thew,r work to provide a solution to any
noise impacting the residential neighborhood.,
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November 1 1984
Chairwoman Vasiliou Introduced Michael S eklpcha, Tipton TIPTON CORPORATION
Corporation., representing the, petition. Reading, of the Nov- RM FINAL PLAH/PLAT
ember , 1984 staff report was waived, 82049)
The Commis,41on ),d diso-ased the Environmental- nv ronmenAssessmentAssessmentWorksheet ( :ABY) proce-s and t1he ponding area.
The Commission Ioad no other
Coordinator. M Conn complimented the petitioner on their w6rk
throughout the review process for this application, stating
that It, responds to, all standards and provisIons of the
Ordinance. She addressed their landscape plan, noting the
request to plant fewer- over-story trees of larger and
varying sizes; staff supports the request.
omnissioner 'dire Inquired if those plantingsngs noted on the
plan may be too mature to transplant.
4r* &, eklocha responded shaft they have found the "kill"
ratio on deciduous trees to be less lthan , and pities, be-
ing the most sensitive, have had an 80survivaf rate.
DTTUN by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner RECOMMENDATION F
Steigerwald to recommend approval{ of the RPUD Final Plan/
Plat for Tipton Corporation for Ce otral Pari Apartments sub-
ect to the conditions as stated in the draft Resolution.
Mr. Sjeklocha complimented the homeowners that he had met
with regarding the project, and Mated that he appreciated
dealing with organized Homeowner Associations. The 'Commis-
sion stated their appreciation ,for ' Tipton Corporation's
efforts in i' (,,ting with tete homeowners. Mr. Zander of the
Cavanaugh area stated his concurrence with the plan.
ote. 7 Ayes. MOTION CARRIED. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
OTHER WJSINESS
Coordinator }'cCotln advised that ,reconsideration of recon..
ciliation for Land Use Guidinq and Zoning for 'Area A'
should be placed on a Planning Commission Agenda*
MOTION by Conxnissioner Steigerwal.d, seconded by Commissioner
Wire to recommend that reconsideration of reconciliation for
Area All be placed ,on the Planning Commission agenda for
December 92, 194i Vote, 7 Ayes.
ADNME-N /
Meeting adjourned at 9.05 P.M.