HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-26-1984CITY OF PLYMIM,
PLA*ING COMMISSION MIRldTIES
SEPTEMBER 26j.. 1964
The regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was
called to order at 8W
HUMS r T Chairwoman Vasill,ou, Commissioners
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Stulburgo ' Pl fka, Wire$ and Magnus
arrived at 00 P.M.)
MEMBERSABSENT: Commissioners Pauba and $telgerwald
STAW PWS" -. Community Development Coordinator
Sara McConn
Community Development Director
Blair Tremere
Assistant Planner Al. Cottingham
Assistant City Engineer John Sweeney
Public Yorks Director Fred Moore
MIKES
MOTION ' by Commissioner Plufka, seoonded by Commissioner
Wire, to recommend _; approval of the September 121
Minutes as submitted. Vote.. 3 Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg
abstained.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairwoman Vasiliou introduced the request submitted by the P wlfi lt 1H COVENANT
Ply outh Covenant Church, for expansion of their facility CHURCH - SITE PLAN
located northeast of Vicksburg Lane and Rockford Road. She CONDITIONAL USE
requested a review of the'September 19, 19$4 ztaff report., PMMIT AMMMENT
AND VA . CE (80051)
Director Tremere ; summarized the proposal for the approximate
5,180 sq. ft.. addition. He 'noted that the plan complies
with the Ordinance setback, parking, landscaping, screening,
and 'trash facility requirements.
Chairwoman Vasiliou confirmed that a day care facility is
not proposed at.this time, and that in the future. should
this fa iiity be desired, a Conditional Use Permit Amendment
would be required. Director Tremere confirmed that a Separ-
ate Permit related to a day care facility would be needed.:
Chairwoman Vaslll.ou recognized Mr. Don Mannstedt, and Cary
Thompson, who stated they had no questions.
Commissioner Plufka requested the petitioner's response ' to
the recommendation that the proposed additional access to
Vicksburg #-ane be eliminated.
P . nning Commission Minutes
September 26, 1984
Pyr. Thompson, 15400 County Road 47, stated that the church
sees a need for the ,additional access In the 'future, but
that the access is net needed at this time-, therefore, they
do not disagree with tte recommendation. Commissioner
Pl.uf ,a confirmed that no implied approval for such an access
is given at, this time for future consideration. Staff
confirmed that no issue is, taken with Mrs Thompson's
comments regarding the potential future needs,
Chairwoman Vasillou closed the Public Nearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner RECOMMENDATION. A
Wire to recommend approval of the Site Plan, Conditional. Use
Permit Amendment and Variance for Plymouth Covenant Church,,
subject to those conditions statedin the dx aft Resolution.,
OTE.. 4 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE -,NOTION CARRIED
CWtwomaft Vasiliou introduced the p tition submitted by IVY PARK DF-VELOPNENT
Mr. Kurt Laugh ngho se, Ivy Park Development Corporation, RPUD CONCEPT
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Pim AND
for an RPUD Concept Plan and Variances. A review' of the a 573
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September Z61 1954
4, u9hINt L 9 0 S eApl.aXn d that in easement is proposed to
maintain driveway access to the most northeasterly residence
in Skyline Hills Unit 1.
The request for a variance from. the 40 acre minimum size
requirement for a Planned Unit Development was discussed,
and Mr. Laughinghouse noted that, if the proposed project is
next to an approved PUD, the size requirements can ,be
waved. He' stated that he spoke to people who "wrot-1 the
Zoning Ordinance", and recalled that a "deduction of bonus
paints should not be spade in the density calculation when a
variance has been granted for the size -of the project". fie
stated his intent is not to develop the property at 1.6
units per ,acre, but to request a Planned Unit Development in
order to accommodate the size variances needed an the lot
design*
With respect to the private open space areas required with a
PUD, he stated that ,If the project were .larger in .size, he
would agree there would be private open space needs. Also,
access to the lowlands through trails Mould be created over
time by general use. He`requested that the requireme'nt for
open space be waived based on the Intent of the development,
and consideration that this development would ,ause a
greater impact on the City's systems. A conservation
easement is proposed to prohibit the construction of
structures, docks, and the like) within the lower are sa
He .stated that he was familiar with this type of easement
through work in other communities.
d L,aughinghouse commented that the plan preserved the
natural: loon area as it is now. He reiterated that he could
reauest variances from the conventional platting
requirements, rather than proceeding with the plann d Unit
Developments or coined request consideration of'rezoning ,to
the R -1B Zoning Districts'
Commi.ssi.oner, P ufka inquired if the alignment of Valley
Forge Lane was dictated by the City, lir. La+ghinghouse
stated he proposed the alignment ;without guidance from the
City, and that if a differeat locatloi was preferred, he
would accommodate such a location* Assistant City Engineer
Sweeney stated that theCity did not dictate tho location of
Valley Forgo bane within the subject property, but, that the
location is determined mainly by the physical constraints of
the property.
Commissioner Stul.berq Inquired If, the petitioner wanted to
deer or withdraw the current app.li cation, In or -der to cc,.-
sider an alternative development approach.
Chairwoman Vasi.liou closed the Public Hearing,.
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it was cl arifl.-d that Mr, Laughinghouse could not request
the Commission to defer the Pl,annpd Unit Development
proposal in order to redesign and resubmit the project as
conventional pleat. If the Concept. Plan were deferred, it
should be on the basis of direction by the Commission for
redesign of the current proposal..
Commissioner Plufka and. Chairwoman Vasi1iou stated their
support to the Motion as proposed.'
VOTE* 5 lees. MOTION carried. VOTE - 140TTON CARRIED
Chairwoman vasiliou introduced the request submitted by RICHARD DEWSEY
Richard Dempsey for Preliminary Plat and Vag.Zances for "Glen PREUMINARY PLATAND,
Echo Ponds 2nd Addition". Reading of the September 17, V184 VAR . ES (84066)
staff report was waived.
Mr. Dempsey was recognized and stated he did not have
questions.. "
5 h Avenue lVLFh. inquired aV4.. theLeRoyZeller, 12905 15th
proposed water extension .layout.: Assistant City ngineer
Sweeney stat that the rrr terwouil be extended on Ir
Avenue North beyond Rosewood tune to service the existing
residences. The city Council. is scheduled to order the pre
li,m,inary engineering report at their First meeting in Octob- ctob-
er`forerforthis public project. Chairwoman Vasiliou noted that
prior to a Public Hearing on the public improvement project,
property towner notices would be sent.
Keith Andersen, 128035 14th Avenue North questioned the
proposed lot size, and recommended' that the minimum lot size
be maintained at 18,500 sq. ft. Mr. Dempsey responded that
the priposed lot sizes were consistent with the residential
development to the south of Glen Echo Ponds* and requested
that this be viewed as an extension to that development.
Chai,rw man Vasi li ou summarized the area density
caz ul ti,ons.
rank Burger, 12817 '15th Avenue North, confirmed that the
water would be extended beyond Rosewood lane.
Chairwoman Vasi.liou closed the Public Hearing,.
Planning Commission Minutes
September 26, 1984
MOTION by Commissioner Magnus, seconded by Commissioner Wire RECOMMENDATION C
to recommend approval of the prel.4minary plat and variances
for Glen Echo Ponds 2nd Addition., subject to,the conditions
stated ,' n the draft Resolution. VOTE. 5 Ayes. MOTION VOTEK - NOTION CMRIEI
carried.
The Planning Commission recessed from 10:05 to 10:15, P.M. RISS
NEW BUSINESS
Chairwoman Vasil.i.ou introduced the request submitted by HAGMAN. CONSTRUCTION,
Hagman Construction Company for Lot Consolidation and Site COWANY - LOT
Plan. Reading of the September 17, 1,984 staff report was CONSOLIDATION AND
waived, SITE PLAN (84072)
Mr. Xm Hagman, petitioner was recognized and stated he had
no`questions#
MOTION by Commissioner S ulberg, seconded by Tommi sioner MCOMMMATION N
P.lufka to recommend approval ` of the Let +Censolldat-ion and
Site Plan subject to those conditions stated in the draft
Resolution,
VOTEMON. r 1 e . MOTION CARRIED
Chai v )mar, Vasiliou introduced the request submitted by John JOHN KAREN LABELLE
and Derr LaBelle for Lot Consolidation, Lot Division, and LOT CfASOLIDATION,
Variancos, for property located at 2815 Dunkirk Lane.. LOT DIVISION AND VAR-
Readin q ilio September 17$ 1984 staff report was waived. IAkS U84)
PSL'. Darrel Swenson, Attorney for the petitioner,' stated he
was av)ilable for questions, r and called attention to the
suggestion of the staff report that the request calls for i
Lot Consolidation. Director Tremere explained that,; on the
one hand., the land has to be consolidated in order to
re -divide the property; on the other hand, if the Lot
Consolidation and Division are not approved as requested,
the two lots should be consolidated into one parcel. The
original platapproval for two lots assumed the hous,- would
be removed, and would not remain, over the lot lPne, as it
has, to date.
Commissioner Pl.ufka requested ;an explanation of the driveway
status*. Pyr. Swenson explained that the driveway to Dunkirk
Lane has been removed, and re -directed to Everest Lane
Commissioner Plufka confirmed that If the second lot is sold
for development, the new drive would be directed, to Everest
Lane.
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September 26f 1984
Mr. Brlsbin asked what would have to e submitted as a
vararce to the City development expansion of an
existing business. Commissioner Plu ka referred to the
Ordinance provisions 'regarding; the Pon -conforming land uses,
Director Tremere further explained that the Capital,
Improvements Program (CP) anticipates tare Pike Lake
Interceptor _ in T-1186, however, it may still not be,installed
at: that time. Also* reference was grade to the variance
standards of the 'Ordinance, as well as the Policy Resolution
No, 5-664.
Steve Poindexter, 33 Soo 6th St., stated he represents the
property owner of "Areas A-5, A-4, ,art A-1311, fir. Poiikdexter
explained that he concurred with Mr. Robbins. His cEen 's
property Is fully developed, and there are no plans for
expansion. He stated he understood that Tennant Company was
defining their Lplans, and suggested that they may be close
to development.
He requested that the Planning Comm ission defer action on
the zoning reconciliation, to ' determine if the location, ani?
cost of the Pike Lake Interceptor .are known. He explal
that he based his request on the status of the Tennant
Companydevelopment, and Council approval of the CII. He
commented that he felt it was in the best I n -I er ,st to table
action on this item for further discussion, until. the
Tennant Company plans are reviewed.
Chairwoman Vasiliou questioned Mr. S romme's letter (qtr..
Stromme is with the same firm as Mr. Poindexter, and has
previously addressed this matter for the same client.)
with respect to the Metropolitan Council and sewer
availability. Director Tremere explained that the State law
requires that the zoning classification of land be
consistent with the City's Comprehensive Plan and Ordinance.
Commissioner P.lu€ka confirmed that, the properties under dis-
cussion arcs within the Metropolitan Urban Service Area
MASA), Director Tremere stated they were also not within
the Staged Growth Area.
Commissioner Stulberg inquired if the Tennant Company has
submitted plans or a formal development application to the
C'ty. Director Tremere responded in the negative, and he
plained that, to staff I s knowledge, Tennant Company does
not intend to submit any development plans until. August,
1985. It was explained, that in consideration of the
schedule for the Tennant: Company$ the CIP identifies the
construction of the Pike Lake' interceptor for 1986, Public
Works Director Fred Moore concurred.
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SUBSTITUTE MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by SUBSTITUTE MOTION
Commissioner Magnus to recommend that staff prepare language
within 3G days to amend the Zoning Ordinance, to create < a
Zoning Designation of I -1a, or equivalent language, which
Ill represent developed land not serviced with uti-Ittles
in "Area All
VOTE on the SUBSTITUTE MOTION. 2 Ayes, Commissioners Wire, VOTE - SUBSTITUTE
P .ufkat, and Chairwoman Vaslliou May. MOTION failed. NOTION - FAILED
MOTION TO AMEND by Commissioner Fire, to recommend that the
Cray Council hold the reconciliation in abeyance until
September, 1985. MOTION failed for lack of second.
VOTE on the MAIM MOTION, as -stated, and as elarified to VOTE - MAIN; NOTIONdeferuntil, September, `L985. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Stu berg 140Th CARRIED
Nay. MOTION carried.
Director Tremere stated concern that this reconciliation was
directed by the City Council last year, and that the
deferral, without direction to resolve the problem, would
leave the Item open for an extensive period. The City is
the petitioner, and some action should be recommended to the
Council, including leaving the toning "as is",
Chairwoman Vas.liou stated her conversations with
Councilmember Crain did not lead her to believe the Counexi
lade this a ;priority iltemtor was anxious to have .it referred
to them.
LITS BUSINESS
Director of Public Works Fred Hoore submitted o City CM OF PLYMOUTH.
application for Planning Commission consideration to divide LOT DIVISION
property by metes and bounds description,, in order for the VARIANCE (Ll fl)
City to obtain necessary right-of-way in the northwest
corner of County Road and 1-494.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner NOTION
Pl fka to recommend approval: of the Lot b vision and
Variance for the City of Plymouth.
VOTE. 5 Ayes, MOTION CARRIED. VOTE- TI Ni CARRIED
The meeting adjournedat 11:59 P.M.