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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-12-1984Page 210 Planning Commission Woutes, September 12), 1984 MOTION by Commissioner 5telgerwald, seconded by Commissioner NOTION Pl.ufka : to recommend that paragraph number 6 of the birec- tor's memorandum relative to off-site directions signs be accepted and included in the draft Ordinance. s, MOTION carried. VOTE MOTION by Commissioner Steigerwald, seconded by Commissioner 140TION Pl.ufka to recommend that paragraph number 5, of the Direc- tor's memorandum relative o roof signs and roof line defin- lt .on be accepted and included ,in the draft Ordinance.- rdinanceVOTE. VOTE.yes.. MOTION carried. VOTE The Commission discussed further the use of corporate logos and exterior finishes, as signage.Director Tremere explained that the City traditionally has not dictated exterior finishes¢ The Orth ,once requires the petitioner nolud atypical building elevation with such nformation. Director Tremere cited the example of the J & S Textile building which had painted striping, for their company i.den- tifioation, The building is now ; occupied by a new tenant who removed the signage for the g & S Textile Company but retained the paint ng. The painting does not convey an overt message. Commissioner Steigerwal.d also cued the example of ` the Schmidt Rusio building in downtown Minnea- polis, noting th,it Interpretation of such provisions could present a problem area* Director Tremere also suggested that the staff development review committee should determine from potential developers whet the-xteriurr finish of new buildings will: be-, ' so the Commission will know, and can than deliberate whether the treatment constitutes signage. MOTION by Commmi sinner 5teigerwald$, seconded by Commissioner NOTION Pl;ufka:to recommend approval of the revised Sign regulations. with the noted itemst and nosing the general concerns with transient merchants Commissioner Kre should pursue his illumination concerns with staff: VOTE. 6 Ayes. NOTION carried. VOTE The Planningenning Commission extended compliments to staff with respect to the research and preparation of the revised Ordinance. Page 211 Planning Commission Minutes September 120 1984 MINUTES, MOTION 4y Commissioner Stelgerwald, seconded by Commissioner Pl.uf a to reeommend approval of the August 2-21 1984 Minutes subject to two corrections.. "} lotion to approve the Aut ust 8, 1584 Minutes was made ) , uinlss loner Steigerwal.d, rather than by Commissioner Stulberg and, the Vote on Recommendation E was 6' Ayes, with Commissioner Magnus abstaining. VOTE. Chairwoman Vasi.liou introduced the staff Members and Plan- ning Commission members to these in attendance. PUBLIC MF M Chairwoman asi liou Introdueed° the request ' submitted by the CITY OF PLYMOUTH City of Plymouth Housing and:, Redevelopment Authority (HRA) MOUSING do REDEVELOP for a preliminary plat of property located south of County HW AUTHORITY Road 6 and east of Glacier mane at 15th Avenue north. PRELIMINARY PIAT 84073) Chairwoman Vasillou opened the Public Hearing. Commissioner Pauba requested a review of the September 41 1984 staff report. Director Tremere explained the program under which the HRA is purchasing this remnant piece of property (from a larger piece' which was obtained for right- of-way and ponding purposes).' The proposed three lots would be developed with new homes; or have existing homes,relocat- ed to the sites. The lots would then be sold to families who qualify for low to moderate income status under Federal, guidelines. Charles Lorentzen, ' 430 County , Road 6, inquired if the units were low income housing. Director Tremere explained the income 'limits for low to moderate income families, and the proposed mortgage financing program. t4. Lorentzen inquired I;f the access were to be limited, to Glacier Lane. Director Tremere explained that the dwelling units would access 'gip Glacier Lane, due to the Thoroughfare Guidepl.an classification of proposed Fernbrook Lane. _ it was also explained that Ultimately Glacier Dane will cul--de..sac at County Road 6. Charwoman Yasillou closed. the Public Hearing. Planning Commission Minutes September 1 , 195k MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner RECOWUWATION A, Stel.gerwaId to recommend approval of the Preliminary Plat subject to the conditions as stated in, the draft Resolu- tion. Commissioner Pauba stated the program was excellent. VOTE. 6,Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Chairwoman Vasil lou introduced the request submitted by Mid- MID-TV 5Y TEMS Co -TV Systems for a Site Plan Conditional. Use Permit, and SITE VARViW Variance for the construction of an approximate 41300 sq. CONDITIONAL USE t. office facility. Reading of the September 4,. 1954 staff MMIT (84074) report was waived. Mr., Mike Ashmore, 3070 Ranchview Lane, was introduced and stated that he was pr-asent to represent the petitioners, Nancy and Joe Wagner, Y.ho were also present. Chairwoman Vasiliou opened the Public Hearing. Chairwoman Vasi'llou inquired if any equipment would be Located on the roof. The representative responded that a satellite dish could be located on the roof. Director Tremere clarified that the staff members were unaware of this proposal, and that it constitute an amendment to the site plan. Chairwoman Vasilliou agreed. Chairwomaq Vasiliou closed the Public Hearing. MOTION by Chairwoman Vasillou, seconded by Commissioner MOTION St igerwald to defer action on the proposed Site Plan, Conditional Ilse Permit, and Variance subject to a revised Site Plan oe:ing submitted showing the proposed satellite dish. tr. Joe Wagner, President, requested that the Plar ning Com- mission not defer action on the proposal,, and that be would not include`a satellite dish. k Commissioner Steigerwald confirmed that the petitioner understood that if he biose to include a satellite dish at a hater time, a SiltPlan !amendment would be required. Director Tremere recalled that on prior occasions when such accessory structures were considered, the approvals required that they not be located on the roof. Conts'nissioner Steigerwald identified that the portable trail- er `and 'dish proposed with the outside storage may be used as a demonstration'tool until such time the petitioner deter- nes if a permanent dish is needed. Pace 213 pi a,anin Commission Minutes Se tember 12, 1984 SAJBSTITUTE MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by RECOHNENDATION 8 Commissioner Magnus to recommend approval of the Site Plan, Conditional Use Permit, and Variances, subject to those conditions reflected in, the draft Resolution. VOTE. 6 Ayes.. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Chairwoman Vasiliou introduced the request submitted by A ADCO INC., REZONING Aradco Inco, for Rezoning and Preliminary Plat for "Bass PKLIWNARV PEAT Lake Woods" proposing that the 20 acre be divided into 32 W75) single family Tots and two outlots. Reading of the Septem- ber 4, 1984 staff report was waived. Chairwoman Vasilzoax opened the Public Hearing and Introduced Mr. Greg Frank, McCombs -Knutson Associate, who stated he i as present to represent the petitioner. Also recogna,zed was Mr. W. C. Anderson,, petitioner Commissioner Pauba inforaed. the Planning Commission that the petitioner met with the Bass Lake Homeowner's Association at which time an agreement was made to oversee any soil erosion problems. Chairr.!oman irou olosed the clic hearing. MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner RECONW4DATION C Steigerwald to recommend appro%,,al of the proposed Rezoning and Preliminary Plat subject to those conditions reflected in the draft Resolutions. VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED Chairwoman Vasiliou introduced the request submitted by Ira. IRA ROSEN,. EDINA Rosen, L N`44,1 Sales and Leasing,, for a Conditional Use Permit SALES AND LEASING to Allow the leasing of motor* vehicles with ;incidental sales CONDITIONAL USE In the Industrial District. PERMIT (84079) Reading of the September 4, 1964 Stafff ;Report was waived. Chairwoman Vasiliou referred to the correspondence submitted by the property owner with respect to designingtheleasing agreement to, further restrict the type of business. Commissioner Plufka requested the petitioner define incidental sales'% 'Ira Rosen explained the business Page 217 Planning Commission Minutes September ', 1,9884 Commissioner Magnus confirmed that the petitioner understood the recommended conditions of approval, and questioned why they chose to relocate. f.1r. Rosen stated the relocation is to reduce vandalism - xd to store the vehicles, inside. MOTION by Commi,ssi.on rt i.gerwald : seconded by Commissioner RECOMMENDATION O Magnus to recommend approval of the Conditional Use Permit for Ira Rosen, Edina Sales and L. Lasing sub jc,ct to the con- ditions reflected In the draft Resolution,. Commissioner Plufka stated he could not .support the propos- al, unless the management of retail sales was clearly i.den- ti.fied,°In order to specifically identify the City tolerance of retailAn the Industrial District. Commissioner Wire suggested limiting the hours of operation further thact requested so as not to allow operation on Saturdays and Sunday, Commissioner Plufka 'expressed concern about the potential rumher of visitors to view the proposed vehicle inventory. OTiON to AMEND by Commissioner,Wire, ire, to recommend that Con- MOTIONTO AMEND dition. Number 5 be amended to allow ;operation on _Mondays through Fridays only, and that no: Saturday or Sunday bus' ness hours be allowed.. The MOTION failed for lack of second. Commissioner RlufKa stated he could not support the. Amend- ment, in that it is not logical to restrict a business in the I-1 District' o.i a Monday through Friday` only, since many users have a second shift. He stated he desires "to restrict the retail portion of the business. MOTION to AMEND by Commissioneroner plufka, to add Condition 140TION TO AMEND Number 7 to state that at no time shall there be any "open house" or display of use -d cars to the general public, on the premises. The MOTION failed for lack of second. MOTION to A END . by Chairwoman Vasillouy seconded by Commis- NOTION TO A14END sidner Wire to amend Condition Number 6 to read that -the permit shall be renewed in six months to assure compliance with the onoditions. Mrs Dale Kennedy, Carlson Properties, stated they were wil- ling to agree with a six month approval considering their confidence III the petitioner. VOTED 4 Ayes. Commissioner Steigerwald and.. Chairwoman VOTE ON AMEND NTT Vasiliou Nay. MOTION carried. MOTION C IED Page 218 anning Co mi ss l on Minatt _ September 12, 1984 Roll Call VOTE on the Main Motion as once Amended. 4 Ayes. VOTE - MAIN MOTION Co-m- i.ssione s 'Wire and Plufka Nay. ; MOTION, carried.. ONCE AHEM-CARRIED Commissioner Ure stated that in.the 1.1 District it was not anticipated to have retail sales, especially on gee ends. The Planning Commission recessed from 9:00 P.M. to 900 P.M. RECESS BUSINESS Chairwoman Vasillou introduced the request submitted by CWYENNE LAM CO. Cheyenne nand Company for an RP00 Final Plan/Plat and Site RPUO FINAL PLAN/PLAT r".lan for "Fax Forest" for the development of 160 attached AND SITE P (80045) housing units. She introduced Mr. Len: Thiel, Cheyenne Land Company, and Greg rrank, McCombs-Knutsoa Associates, who were both available for questions. Reading of the September 41 1984 .staff report was waived. Greg Frank requested teat proposed Condition Number 5 of Recommendation D be reworded to extract the words "':to each unit" and insert the words "the thea prevailing". The same language should be inserted to the draft Final Plat Resin o- tio;;# Chairwoman Vasiliou inquired if staff was aware of the pro- posed changes. Coordinator McConn explained that the staff was informed that such a, proposal would be submitt df how- ever, they were not discussed in detail. Director Tremere offered that the request be carried forward to the City Council, as the primary concern is that they meet the re- quired codes. MUT OM by Commissioner 8teigerwaldt. secon0td by Commissioner RECOMMENDATION E Wire to recommend approval of the RPUD Final, Plan/Plat and Site Plan subject < to the conditions in the draft 7 Resolutions. VOTE. 6- Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - M0TI0N CARRIED Chairwoman Vasiliou Introduced the request submitted by TLC TLC €OLYFORM, iNC. Po yfarm, Inc., for a Site Plan application for the develop- SITE PLAN (8407 ment of a 10,100 sq. ft. riff ide/warehouse/manuf.actu ing facility. Mr. Dale we kus, Shelter Resources, Inc*, ;gas Introduced as agent for the petitioner page 219 Planni Page 220 Planning Commission Minutes September 12, 1954 Chairwoman s,llou introduced request Sub n tied by Carlson Properties, Inc. for a SIte Plan and Variance to SITE PLAN AND allow for the constroctioa of parking faoilxties related to VARIANCE 76) the Carlson Companies Headquarters facility. Reading of the September 41 1984 staff report was valved. Chairwoman Vasillou inquired how long the bituminous curbing would be used. Mr. hale Kennedy, Carlson Propertie indl- cated that the lot may be used from 3 to. 5 years. She indf Bated that Mr, Kennedy has assured her that the parking lot and bituminous curbing will be maintained, Mr. Kennedy explained that thecompany would l ke e employees to pari closer to, the bAillding, especially considering the ensuing winter. - He stat.o there is an agreement with the railroad company to allow for the crossings. The location of the building entrances were described for Commissioner Plufka.. MOTION by Commissioner Steigerwald seconded by Comm ssioner RF-COMMIMATION li Wire to recowsaend approval: of the Site Plan and Variance ap- plication subject to the conditions in the draft Resolution. Commissioner Wire confirmed that the proposed temporary parking would not be utilized for further development of the Headquarters 8tti,ldin ., or for Lot 3. VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION ICARRIED OLD B SIW- The Planning Commission deferred discussion on the request by Hoyer Palmer, The Bass Lake Development Company, at the petitioner's request. Chairwoman Vasillou irt4. od$soed the continued matter of the REZOMINC AND Regu d ng and Rezoningg v . )nciliaton of property referred to IIEGUIDIW RECON- as "Little Penin ,ula1'. Reading of the September 6, 1984- CILIATION Or Staff Report was waived. LITTLE PENINSULA Mr. Thomas Coodman, Attorney, and Mr. Herman, owner, were Introduced,, and qtr. Coodman stated., that he was present.." at the meetinq in Lieu of Mr. Brill who had been the acting attorney on this project. He explained that Mr.. Brill was durrentl.y involved in questioning witnesses for the Depart- ment of Natural Rettources MR) Public Hearing. The hearings with the DNR relate to the establishment of the Ordinary Nigh Water level which will dictate the amount of developable land. r Commissioner Wire stated CommissionerP1ufks's points were Pale 224 Planning Commission Minutes September 12, 1984 Coii issioner Rlufka reiterated' his- concerns and Commissioner Magnus concurred. Mr. Goodman stated that If a decision is to be made on re - c uidinq and re .onin the property, that this was a very com-- plicatod is3ue, he requested that fir. Brill be able to speak on, the item. He stated the Ordinary High Water Elevation would determine what size roads could be used, determine the size of the buildings; and;, determine the allowable density. Commissioner Rl.ufka stated that observation does not deal with the issue at hand, as the determinati.or- of the .size would not be a factor, for example. Chairwoman Vasiliou stated that Nr. Brill has known of the Planning Commission issues since March, and it was presump- tious to assume the Planning Commission would not 'take action. Mr. Goodman requested an extension Roll Call dote. 3 Ayes. ' Commissioners Magnus, Pl 0k..,i, and VOTE - 140TION FAILED Chairwoman Vasillou Nay. MOTION failed. MOTION by Commissioner Plufkas seconded by Chairwoman RECOMMENDATION Vas ' li.ou to recommend the property iden tifi.ed as Area E ' in, the March 21, 1984 staff report be rezoned from R-3 to R-21 consistent with the LA -2 Guide plan Classi.fication. Commissioner Steigerwald reiterated his concern that the Planning Commission previously took action to defer until the litigation was complete. Roll Call Vete.. 4 Ayes. Convi.ssioners lire and Ste gerwald VOTE NOTION CARRIEU Nay, l OTION carried Commissioner Pauba explained ti at he changed his vete in order to forward a recommendation to the City Council, based upon a planning decision,* OLD MSINESS oairwoman Vasi-fiou introduced the request for reconsider- BOYER PALMER ation. It was explained that the Commissioners have visited LAKE DEVELOP - the property, and she expressed appreciation for the work HENT COMPANY prepared by Mr. Cagy Bidne, Consultant. Also introduced LAND USE GUIDE FLMI were the architectural representative and Homeowner AWNDMENTs, REZONING commissioner Steigerwald suggested; that the number of units Page 227 Planning Commission Minutes 12 1984epembr MOTILIN to Amend bar Cha .rwow n Vaslliou$ seconded by NOTION TO AHM Coavlss,lener Stelgerwaldx to amend Condition Number 13 to allow 118 a its. Beyer Palmer submitted be spoke with the manager of the Northridge development In New Nape, who had recommended 200 units as aminimum number of units to assure economic feasibility. He stated that the project could net be undertaken if the number is reduced from 163 units. Roll Call Vote. 3 Ayes. Commissioners 'dire) Plufka, and VOTE - 'A ` HENS` Paubal Nay. MOTION failed. (Tie Vote) FAILED Rall Gaal Vote on the Main Motion as Amended.. 5 Ayes. VOTE- N NOTION Commissioner Stea.gerwald 'Nay. MOTION carried. CARRIED Comiss ener Ste ,gerwald referred to his previous ecomments. ADJOURNMENT The meeting 'adjourned at 10.05 P.M.