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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 08-10-1983CITY P4TH PLAMING COKMISSION RTE AUGUST 0, 198 ; The regular i of the annin CoMmIssion was ealled to order 1 P.M. HEMER PRESENT. Chatrwoman Vas! -Hou. m I one Wiret Stulberg, and Pauba, ABSENT-, Catiers . Stelgerwald and Plufka STAFF R` N '- COMUMitY Development Coordinator SeratJ.(,,Conn Assistant Engineer 3ohn Sweeney q tunit oilmen DietsDeveR. . it City Enoineer Fred Moore MINUTES vF Stulberg to approve the Minutes of 3uly "x as submitted. ,edea. NOTION carried. PUBL IC WARINGS, Chairwoman Vasillou Introduced the request submitted y DEWIS C NY A COnYeaDennis for z RRID Concept Paan, m O ' T"IRD ADDIR Rtan/Plat. Conditional Use Permit anti, a walver from th RP1JD CORCUPT PLAN minimumuen or PUD." $The propertyPRF M Y PLAT/MI, locatedat the northeast cornerac ane an' i6th AND CONDITION& USF Lk 4 $ IenAvenueHorth. Fwas, requested Z91 1191,53 StaffReport. Staff explained that the petitioner requests a vialvor from the Ordinoncerequirements WhIch state that the minimun, total land arpa for UD' .l not be less thart 40 acres. Staff iew d the history of the property aind the inteat e R-18 Zoning District as a transition r o e, Stif f reviewed 1: f the d Conl0v,,pt Ptij, and e nded the Commission discuss the d 1. i order to determine If the proposed Concept Plan wLarrlants approval for a Planned Unit Development. August'15183 Nee requested comparison of this ro : the ry t m ll Project. Stuff ex-0.11"'Aned the comparlson to the requestfor a waiver from the PLID' size reoudirements, an m,,the ..e, fit ` Chairwoman'tl ndc e Mir . Erma aon. Westwood Planninq 4, E'n(illneerinqj, representing the , , wft noted that the existing old greenhouse a will e removed fr%i the site to c orgi o the j t, $ 1 w located on Lot 15. Tt was explalAedthat the existinq house i cc would retained. ter. iagen reviowed history of the two existinqparcels and the assessmentl; which have been levIed oft the propertNi, It w noted that since no privatedrive access would be allowed Zachary Lane, development of the east pareel; zs a sl'nqle owas € ted, , The p : ±,* feels that.tiie )roposed plan presents a pleasent- v de loo n which l e eornpatible with the surrounding noti" hborhoodand viould cOmPlete leveIOPment In, this gen.eri area. tor. Hagen explained the propt)I,,Nj tot dot I*,, t ion w selected for onc,'n1e reasonsgest biilldinq houses In this specific loci would add (Ions i derable post vi the development of the I-eoje et. it Petitioner w comb wstaff's omptd ion for ac i g the tot lot area Chairwoman i coymm3 n t that the proposal would very oop. patiblethe sup°roundint ,g anotinq proposed lot sizes and existinglzes of the adjacent property. Chairwoman °' - , .. u opened the Puhlto 14ear'na. cam Reefings, 10S20 38th Avenue North, reouested that existing 36th Avenue Oorth remain ad-end untl I the new 38th Avenue North is constructed for #,°o:ete cir,(-ulation. He stated he did not Nvant the inq roadway t3 be used as construction access to the proteot. k Hastinqs, de to handle &-ali-vage in the northeastr tion of thett. Staff explained that new storm sewer Provisions are beim installedrof this project,, to handle the existinct, drainage ratherthan continuing overhand r i m# age AIL August M" Mr. Hastings expressed eencern about a past situationa people moved into sinple fantly residential houses privT to Jiv roads bgcotmq -te constructed. He rckqt,4ested contingency be plaW "pon the,'d ev that no hNairworF a Vasillou asked foran x rxi f the type and value of housing to be n n anLwerA that henq-. family wt cost would be substantisi considerinq the lend costs eluefile existing ,assessment$. PaUl t -140i 1005 Wth PlW( North* inquired what exten of adlre would be eonducted in the sort-hwest earner neer thv, tot lot area. Fran Begg explained the drdinage and aradtnq Plan for this dreat notinq that, vera the site will remain relativelyclose to the existing qr4des. BrIaPI Anderson, 3645 Wellinq4ton Lane, inquired what was proposed regardInq nal, alonq the east property r AndOrstn noted aha; testa Is an extensive grade whanae along thispropprty Ynes and expresaedconcern that the, area should not drain to the east Agen IndWated the Petitioner and consultants were aware Of the existinq grade chango andvie the histpry of the developmentofthe Wellhotork area. We explained that it Is proposed to reduce - the existing sloes, and use the out . a$ fill elsewhere on the site. The proposed grades willmatch the existing grades at the east property line and will e1 i y the existinq l stated that the petitioner and consultants fool C00fideAt that with the construction of drainage swales, th' property will drain the, north and south. PAR Wilsont 1005 AS Race North, InvirY who would install thefwav- * Mr. Hagen€ that the developer d lttdleated he would construct the roadways during the review T the earlier final plat application. Therefore; It was at3sme that he wouldhave the Name intent forti W-41son inquired what levol the tot lot would be developed. ter. HA00A, explained that the tot lot would fully graded and Yevelopedy Including the : Installation of plank structures. Nr. n also explained that the drainaq(- along the adjacent northlots Would continue towardZacharyLane. page 11r., Anderson inquired if further Adl , detatis v 11 he 1P.- plan, Is requir-pi w final t appUcatlon,. ctted review comm, Ants f rolil School District Indicatinct They dLI not hilve (,oncerj s jqth the propoil,,edproject. Chairwoman ` lio l d the P"blic Hearinq.. ilner Wire state( t-% felt another 1 ipta wias needed. Mr,, Hagenreminded the Commission that the euryon ; application involves h t Imloary plan anti plcit, ant a final grading plan is required relth the suhsequentfinal plat stage. Commissioner Wire inquired about heoimAssociation responsibilities e g the tot lot.` Mr. 111a0en explained that: the developer would prepare the Site and 'Install the play structures* Frox-a that time ont the Association will s for oiitnership and Commissioner . t. qU: e-lluthe timing of Improvements. Mr. Hagen responded and explained' h i was ars exeellent Idea. to keep the ex. Avenue closed during the constructionprocess. C01M issioner Rre Inquiredabout 'proposed Mr.. Hagen reviewed the. proposal calls for . front yard etbac d 10-ft. sidevard setback to the building, and 6-f t.sidleyard setNWk io the a ge. The overall. mass grading w Include the Ind ii i . Staff' clarified that the Ordinance allows for varied a.s through the UD- provsislons andunless otherwise. specified, the setbacks would per the approved PUD plan. Fie re-Moved. I Rageft explained'that efforts'will, be made to n as many existinq trees .s MUM by Commissioner Wire, secondod ommissioner ulberq to talo_ action on thi, petition.. (jt Ayes.. MOTION ;carrled. Page 154 P11,n'la Commission u`. f, 1053 Commissioner Wilts Stun I the Commission address the ppl, ' of b"''n points. Staff l --fled h petitioner 1 vi waiver from thf, bonus point F# Ittao-en explained that: the petitioner feelsthems's' &wS6'L 1t V'lopSkWe?i:to pri_: Vlfltt v Council aetion * asittiations,, He Stated that the" goner f elt the p.%-oject site Is to(, smallart area to provide a mi ,d and detaohed usli ,, and did, not feel that the neiqhbors would a9r, With the develmment, of attackhedhousina. FFA Y ON by Cornmissitonere. tulber l Commissionerisone e '° flauba o e° e approval the size walvel, 11PUD Concept Flan, Preliminary Plan/plat and Condiltional U rejit for Dennionyea for Gonyeals Third Additton., subject to the condition nut-,l o allovi for the retention tf the existing house on Lot 13, iand addlinq condition number 13 to read" "Existing 38th avenue North $hail be barricaded untili n 1,th Avenue North Is completed". Commi,sloner etre concerted with the, ion and expressed concern that the Cogmcmisston shov1d revtpv the final qradinq MOTION to AMEND by CommissioneT Wire, soconded by MOTIOU TO W14-1) Com-mls$toner Paubaltoo-i d that the finalz . q jlan be reviewea and approved by the Planninc3ta;s, issioner Stulberg stated he, did o and the concern, because new stormssewer vV 4nq were, hetnq alledto 1 exq drainau pb.F, and thvt they' q 1 1 I e developed responsibility forrainve arc, ver'. t lean. nen : i-,-toner Wire stated he ruvited to 4`e the plan lut 0 ty" and Fie would feel mor" y,,-an o le If the:..s s i . v Ws th:- plan. e AMEN HN T , 2 :Ages. Cown4sloners, Stulbern a,.id D `O`EN, 1V"0t ' Chairwoman Val-1116--i ay. IrlfflOtll failed. hair kf '11404 TIMn J40 e eta safequdsare it' the City' vo_tlele-s and, rdtttances. VOTE on the l AIA MOTION. 4 twee. NOTTOR dT_Pw VOTF ON MU!, HOTION t4r,, flageri stated t at the petittoi-ier would work with the neighberhood to resolve any corl erns repardinq P Pa n. tl cw mlssion Ninutes August 0, 10,N3 Chairriaman Vasillou, introduce,.4-the request submitted bv WILLIAM GADTKF William Gadtke for a I elan, Conditional Use nmj S TF P ,A $ Arnendimtent and Variaryes for the etxzpansjon of an existinq CONDITIOMUSF self-service car wase lovated at WiD X11merLianad n f lxglt, 4, staff report was wa ved. AW AR ,,,; lou ro jned -. 3ad and Vlr. Darrell, 11, _ chitee , who were ail for questions. Kehard . Ad -11, $433 39th v nue North, requestrd a rev.tew of the proposed project, Gatitke stm— m h .ped expansion to the existing self- -v I ce oar wash., Staff noted that the o n a , did eomply with the landsoaplaq requirements, Lindell inquired if there was anY green area proposed k n the south side of the buildinq. Mr. ','**adtke reviewed the site noting the areas -of qre-n space. Lindell Inquired If a qaraqe door was to be installed a the rear of the proposed locat ion for the pltmhjnq busirwecs. Mr* Cadtke stated that heAntends to ln au, an overhead doo for ease of bringinq lanae pipe Into the building. Lindell expressed concern that approximately three Vea s a., he processed a sit. plan a.an which incluiieof a proposal for an oWrhead door. fie stated he told that this could not be ae .i nj which delayed his project, Ouring the delay has noted that several buildings have been constructed with over ad doors. Mr. ad-1-ke explained fur-tTM that: the overhead door, was not for storaqe of ny but for ease access: the ildin n a} ¢ jh iclpsj qe Staff explained that Mr. .nd .1 has, processed two plan applications for his pro erty a 4th n -- and 21mer Lane". The n pans mid call for an overhead door ohleth aoud have reduee-ki the Ordinanee required parking, and ?d have required variances from the park -Ing provisions. Staff summarized that Mr. Gadtke met the parking requirements for e office use and that Mt. Gadtke is proposing to eliminate At, existing buildingn the site. Chairwoman Vasiliou closed the 1`.c Hearing. Pees " Planning Commission Minutes August , 1983 MOTION by Commtls st oner Wire,, seoonded by Commissioner Stulberg to take action on this petit'on. VOTF. 4 Ave MOTION Detre . to recommend approval.of the. Site ,T, ! se Permit . car,*,e , and giant- s subj the as s atet, in the dr,ft Resolution. Co-mmissloner Wire COIMMPAted that, he felt the proposal uould, improve the area and represented a good development. O`A'R. 4 dyes. MT.-INVOTE HFA WSINESS' Chairwoman Vs tflou co inartded Staffo the_ . v ; f the r, io hat has been a d ' n Commission Study Items, and complimented staff on the, work. It tw s suggested that staff forivard copies of tiw monthlyr Pl as a ds n reports to theVe-velopmenj Court 4A . Chairwoman Vasillou recogrilied1 Palmorl,5"780 Oakview Lane, noting that due to a previetts applicationt Palmer has considerable Interest In this type o Palmer Introduced his u a ,qtr. GareMet Reusing & Development, Inc. e summz4rized his views of Congregatesr , n eited an example of a cooperative oonoreqate, housinq 0111ty located Lit 75M ku oat, Mnnesota,, Corandissionor Stulberq inquIlredif the, Cite court possibly he Orob sin years t come Vi 'such facilities converting Into communal j for other than elderly persons. Mr. Bidne commented 'that the concept of conqreqate 11OUSInq Is new to the Midwest arca. stated that such housing was for elderly onlyt- wmild the Cate be pda fir. Sidne ica h believed Chits would be the case The, discussed the .°a s of such housinq as i related o owner occupied, je-sing and/or eng. Staff noted that It s notmandatory for congregate htosinq A cooperative, or owner occupied facility. Page 157 Planning ms n Minutes August , 198 13 Staff "nquired about means of assuring, that oonqre6,ite houslnq would be limitedo elderly -persons only. Mr. flidne e that in the case of a c.00peratjv(,, the facilltv ootild by chartery disertminate aqainstlthose under 55 years unless- such a person is a adependent. of aresidp-nt of e facility. Commlssionr Wire inquired If thcre are uniquo construction aspects for such housing. Pr. Bidne explaiqedthat the facilities must be tailored to, an elderly person, and noted that such development Is n(it less expensive . , n other residential development. Chairwoman Vasiliou Inquiredabout the use of housing by tan lcaRed Persons. Mr. Bidne citedh certain number of units usuallymust be e-onstructed for use y handicapped persons* The COmnllssion discussed with. Mr. Ridne the general hr ri . of the r enceS. Commissioner 'Wire; requested ;gin example of env o to middle Income projects. Mr. Sidne explained' the 7500 York, Wtt r l . and Beckett Square prt-,Jeets, not all of which are elderly housing developments. The Commission discussed with staff various zoning techniques* special districts,, and reqoIrements for such facilities. f noted that it may be heneficialt require a " roof -of r In " plan eased on apartment parking standards ty valve, so teat Ilf the fa6litnqed n the future to a market -rate or non -elderly houch Y: project,, se fI nt parkinq would be avallable. staff also commented that the useaqe of the fa i ity could bo 11mited by fIlIng covenants on the property* Commissioner Wire suggested` that the Ordinance should address this type of e l m n specifically,. and set certain standards In an effort to reduce the costs of development. Staff noted that tete Ordinance alreadyallows for a reduction In the parking requirements for 'elderly housing, Chalrw*man Vasillou Inquired about therig oc t on charactersuch residences. Mr. Hine expo ine that there Is a general 'trend for the residents to .locate near their children or relft-laining familymembers,; Rage 158 planningormmi Auqust 0t 41983 r reconaimended that the City ,provide a 11 or thlis type of development. He su staff draft several alternatives relatino to quiefing-,I and dile tune of covenants.The Commission concurredi, Staff ou nt.:: that, In -addition to the property Interests expressed by Mr. Rafter, that the City should Lave a overall Interest in suchn , and an interest in the sitefir# the CDens the o k ly Plymouth" area, which Is designated for etderly housi q. The Coirmission discussed varlouts. financinqalternatives,, t urrent federal legislation 0icy proposed to allow for bondignq ._this type of development. The Cow-Mi$$10nnext Continued the revise of the, proposedCAPITAL 0PROVEWNTS CormoissionerWire, requested an expl-Inationthe finant1no STREE-Ts of the projects. Mir. Moore explainedghat- the revenue n the project are inlitiatled at the same time, and, that the r venue Is carried forward over severdl veers. MOTION- Commissioner, Stulberg, seconded by Chairwoman VasiUou to recommendrecoommend approval of the proposed street projects for the 1984-1986 CIP. VOTE. 4 Ayes. MQ "' 1m parried; Commissioner fir -expressed concern about the tuning of SANITARY Ems` sonitary sewer Improvements on the Tennant property in the northeast corner of the City. fie stated that it Is premature and speculat.1ve to complete such improvements If the Tennant Company Is not goina to stove forward with their project. Staff noted that> h project has been moved back on a yearly basis since 1980. It was explained that the exact locat.ion ofhlp sewer lies cannot e determined at this time until dtiOn can related to the anticipated d-e-volopment. comuissioner Wire states he felt the should be Involved in repairing existing sanitary sewer lines ratter than- installinq speculative, new server <» Planning Commissiort Minutes Awast 10. 198 Copzn4isstoner Wire requested information rew'4rdInq thew w t lro coach Distriot. Staff noted that whe this Information is forwarded to the CitiCouncl,l, would be provided for the Commission. med that developers the City for sanitary server projeets, MOTION by Conimtssjoner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Stulberg to recormNend approval of the sanitary sewer PrOjectS for tho 1984-1988 CIP, citino the previous the Citi should maintain sanitary sewer servicog p r to constructtnqspeculative extensions. C u i"saner Wire stated he had the same concerns recterdinq, WATER water extensions as noted for the sanitary waver projects* Staff explened that the City I Is not speculatinq(i such Improvementsthe Capital Tmpro ementsr o r , as the City mustfinancially prepared to Install these ImProveMents should development proposals move forward. MOTION n r Wire, seconded by Commissioner Pauba to recommend approval of the water projeots 'for the 1984«1988 CIP. Vote. 4Av MOTION carried. MOTION d missi n r Pauba, seconded, by Commissioner Wire STORK SEWS to recommend approval of the Store Sewer projects for the 1984-1.088 . Vote. 4 Aves. MOTIM carried,. Staff explainedthat the Parks portion of the CIP was PARKS prepard by the Parks and Recreation 1 r, and the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission Commissioner Stulberg indicated he would like to see, the Minutes r r pn,rt which was forwarded to PRAC and to review their, submitted comments. re n as staid her concern with n nq maintenance costs a oallated with park system expansion and development* It was the concensus of theninq Commission that, prior to the Commission taking w-" the Parks 'portion, of the CIP. would, nor d like rev 1.:,w background information ora the projects and associated bud . RECOMMEMDATION . VING RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT MVELOPKIMT CONCEPT PLAR_ PRIF L 'PLATI -L AND ,n CONDITIONAL PERMITf oR ()'4 FOR ITHIRD DD 0 (R3030) WHEME` S, Dennts Gonyea has requested approvalResidential Planned Unfit neveloolnent Concept Plan, Preliminary Plan/Plat, and Conditional Use Per il-. and a waiver from the inimum size requirements for PUID's for nnve 's Third Addiflon, conststino Pallt lY 110tt, Ott,. acres, the northeast oorner of 36th Avenue Mor'th and Lachary Lane; and,- WHEREAS, the Planning ommi ssi n has reviewed the requeste at duly called publie, hear-hear- Inq and regio-;mends approval; al NO THFREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF P -vmo t mt- NESOTAt that It should nd hertlhy does approve the Residential Planned Unit Development Concept Playa, Preliminary Plan/Plat and Conditional Useer t for Dennis Conyeafor Gofiveal5 Third Ad&tlon on property located In the northeast oorher of 36th Avenue florih and Zachary Lane subject o ttae following conditions-, 1. Compliance with the Citi Enqineerts Memorandum. Removal of all dead or dyinq trees from he Property at the 6,.vnerls expense. NO S i dlnq Permits shall he Issued until a contract has been awarded for sewer and viater. Payment park dedication fees-ire-lieu of ded,"Leation In accordance with the Dedication Policy In effect at the time of filinGthe Final Play.. 5. Street; names shall emP withth the City Street Naming System,, 6. No Building Permits snal.. be Issued until the Final Plat Is filed an recorded with Hennepin County. Setbacks shall e per PUD Pian. waiver fro,-,i the 40 acre minimum requirement for PUD I s is aP .r , on the basis that there are unique constraintsamts a ad the development Is In nature to the adjoininq developments-. and, waiver from the Bonus Point vro rasions to allow a density of Z.?units Per acre 4s approved on the bas- s the plan Is similar t and with the adjoininq developments. 10,E Appropriate legal documents reqarding 14n en ner Assoolation v3en an s and r s r tIons as approved by the City Attorney, shall be filed with the final butlotPact, Including ownership and maintenance of A., 11. Outlot A be. fenced around he Perimeter of the, piay area. 1Et4DAT10N AUGUST 10, APPROVING SITE PLANI, a -MI ' ON . USDA° K"AMI`' A1,04F)WRT A4D-V3 ' WILLIAM CADU X30 W14FR- S1. W1,111m Gadtkehas requested approval,,or a Stte elan,' rontittional Use Permit AMORdment and Variance to expend an extstinq self-service cirwash locat,,,J at 35-19 Kilmer, ars WHEREAS, the Phaning C*ommlsslon has reviewed the request at a dole all d Public Hear. Ing nd radar=endsa-a. w j' THEREFORE,, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVEDTHF CITY COCINCTL OF THE CITIY OF PLYMOUTH, MrN- NESOTA,, that it should and hereby dues approve the Site Plan, Conditional ', t o -ti Perm and Variance for William dt for the ex a an x st nself-ser ar” l Compliance vvith the City Vnqlneerls Memorandum,. witea submittal of required drai Cage plans and easements Prior to Issuance of a Suildinq Permit. bm i-Tori requiredr Site mpr met Performance Aqreemept and the required financial guarantees for completion of smote improvements. 3. All waste and waste containers shall be stored within the ,an owed structure. aid no outside storage is permitted. 4. Thu permit is subject to all applicable codes, requiations and Ordinance- and violation thereof shall be grounds for 5. The permit is issued to the petitioner .s oper of the facility and ha not be transferable, 6. The site shall be maintained in a sanitary manner. There shall be no outside vispliy sales or storaqe of merchandise or related materials. The permit sad.l be, renewed in one year to assure eompliance with the conditions. Variances, in addition to those previously approved for this site, ars approved for. sate yard setback for parkInq of 5 feet rather than 70,feet.