HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-22-1983CITY t° PLYMOUTH
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tilar ;iwetiml of .011145 was
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HUMERS PRI.SFRT1 Cha r rwom m ,r , r. l ! ou, Commissioners
l aull , PJuftd, Stel(jerwald, Wire,
STAFF `.- Community opw"fitDirector
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140TI011 by Comm! sloner f4atl r j y _c' n €cl ', , Commissioner oner rrry
to recs ertirt ..'4proval of the t rnrrtc=*5 of ,line 8, 1983 meetrrm
a5 submitted. Vote 5 Ayes. CQmmissionera Stulberq (int.'
h i r wom n Vasillou to am r tluc ed the request, submitted by WRHIN Co.
ertm % Jensen, Lyndale Terminal Comnirrj for ,i Prc41mintrry FOR "OLI AY WAREHOUSE
Platt Final - Plat and ! te Plan p l .(;trt ion for c on truetton PRELIMINARY MAT
of "Holiddy Wtrr ehcrr se" retail center. She r equetted a re- SITF' 'PLAN AND: FINAL
v leW Cf tile* un 10, 19,43 stuff report. PLAT(4,302.5)
t ff Plaine that, the m qu t included <A preliminary plat
which oldlLs for the 75 dere site to 1)6 € wiled Into d total
Of fcrUr lots. Tile property located rr the west side of
ll than Lane would be platted Intci one Lot and Block, wid the
property located On the a t side of KitShf'.yn Lane wool_ be
i inod into thr eo lots. The submitted f mt1l Mat all for
the land located west of the ltathd1l Marra to he, platted ,as
one Lot and Block with the rx ht. -of -way ,for 45th Av nucr
North, The land located on the, rest sige of -ll th at, t. t c,
would bre platted one out ot, Subject to clrallridqn and
Otility edsements and further trlattxn . Staff finds, the
Platting propos'als consistent with the Ordinance require-
ofents and noted that 45th Avenue North would be constructed
as part of the development of this property,
tuff expWned that the it. 'i's zoned 8-? and that the site
Pldn 00tvatioln rrry lvf-!% only that property locatedd sin the
west rd of Nathan Lone, The slite plata proposal calls for
the 14.1 acres to be developed with an 4ppronilmate t l ili
rAtdI l Venter.
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t 11 '1 t-1 TM'feet of the subject Site were notifiod.
Ch-irwomati VasItiouCrit. ce r ry 3ensen, LI
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jx-A,ItAlonerls eriplineerl an), David ktrscht the Petitioner's
s sc,;pe architect., Mr 3ensen noted that tie would defer
ulna—M I' nt- after the Public in w is held
hrworas osi Vasillou expbjItethat she had a "olep ont-* e0fl-
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iik,.' propos;:il Hifid requested that the a anwijxiq Coir- is l tt
defer Act Wil on the petition. She had .:X l ned to himthat
oil - i der ition of thV l * cam:' ion should proceed pe-
the Quriha indf In t d
that vpport nitN ` to revtesy the aplitte'rition file, and h(I Was
Coil- erivd vileh the proposi.il to I'llant overstory trefps vvithin
the trdi l u r id—or, this ivuld tie inappropriate-, ((
ated that the elititpdted Floy figWes NO to 350
sounded toohA a- n * inquired how the proposed ore w
uld a f feren t from the Poliday Warehouse stere located In
the t --if rel MVV% Crain noted that: tits experience
with xUA Inq Hol M y fdclItties, ; l vp iot been nJs -keit
vjth MIr. Ue"U'll stated that if xht Commission Desiree to
discuss 411 portionsthedppllft yl and tnot ' just the ; prel * I
nry WIdt hO Could -roc ivv h ct presentation to ane
Commission avd re-sldc a * He IWU,.ed ` that thele f 'Irmwd
xcite bout he rc al,amitted to the City as this
wot_ represeutt.the firm'str,,A time develop"ing in, this orf,.
He x- pl aine-0 that over h Lkst two s, the firm a l
v - oa k f oN-a inn a, "one-stop ha inq
n - t,r". e Indicated that the tr has ondact three'
years r ear,"Iti in tilternal operationsn market asidlysts
of were ret a ed t Bassi in he riab
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fit:. nIserr Stated that they Ove t, empte4i to Prov, Ide a co'.m.
and that their
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propertyO `se ala s t" Q .Pfi recta C i*bi an(II 6y`tjjcdin i3"t' he Is
proper for the proposed,s,e !br) d shoppli1q, omater.
Tho proposed 00111t; Is 4p,!,,irox1mdtely t!5% smaller than the
fridleY NOItty blah is about 17 years ` old. e. lonsen
stated that if it Is sok determined, the, oW p1dattrrrt,
Whin the trail easehiefit could be rtloodted. 14P oontinnov.1
b noting t rat thO estimate o the number f t y I
accurateurate nand that they propose a payroll cif 7,5 ri l t tori f,—h
Idrs per year. RL- (xplalned that the ftirm Atc,.,,mjAed to
ula t an estimate of property taxes thatwould - proNO-
Rlcoithre,, consultiruct moon er explAned that the trail
suald be pavvd concurrent with ` the site Spreome is an
vmpl t, prior to the planting of thfr trees. It is propos-
ed that the t iat vfu fl.d wind hough'the trees drift he note
that no trees would need removed lue to the ri a l i a-
t e htrail,
Mir- 3t"Osell reviewed thy proposed floor plan for the Commis -
Brett and e ident.s...
Burke, 5t an arse, stated that, he h4s, the some
VOMCMS with the present petition that were voiced on the
Previous Petttions for development of this r rt e-
tewvd the property's qui to ninq the standards er a
neAqhQ)rhood shopping center, an(r those for a cow rr ty
3hopptnq center.
He estimated that for the proposed rt t teiit = , h( I)e t i ev-
d a population of a!,proximmly 200,000 people would be re-
quired to support the inns. K: stated that he felt the
required mai ret for the center is 'riot present.
He stated that the background portion of the staff report
does riot Writ if y the current quiding as "nelphb rho hop -
i cert =h Wr. Burke stated that the current City Goan"
01 wbers were- members of the Planning CommtssionIn 1971
he orighrat dwel pment plan for this site was
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e Inquired idsio, the P"Irpt of the ::and Use Colling lvdst
or <i dcurR flt 'Or Stilff tv, 't o over". He stated nvt
neighbors were of t1hu opinion that the Lend Ilse ikl d, o
fi. -:. 5'a.., v'ls,. c s s!i UlOre.. , 'a Wi& 3 e t.C.v. . i? -_re-wmlt
4oprai it
aso Inquire whh, the zoafna of tji( prop rte did licit
ei vvrt to the ori o'll zonifi w;l they trittlat dem c` lopirent
3 ° Urk(" -,,Ot t thOt -Whelt he talked o Mr. Roper [eq, e, ti
iresideat of thv Homeowtiers A8soQtatiori, Mr., qen iea i° tv
that the petitioner wa of the, opioli ell that Meetincl vilth the
iuAghborhood rioiuld not be productive. Mr. Rtirke read from
tilt:'nisi rdinar.'et- the urposv of the commercial develo -
i R r .t' showed s.A j e of tjj(' of * tja v stores Ili F r t e, and
and 10, his opli
rt n, the developer'S 111 e
of respect" t" or adjoNtnt; nelqhbors. He ooted th(, ( ty r d.-
a stat 4 that. sholved, p si*mv;it u4mes vi the C !-
t eS- He COMMentec that the Signage on the zvi nat ll site
woold not meet: the Plymouth standar0s.
Hr urke stltod lie ` rtmllzed t o prossures tot the RN
is `.3 ci#It l €5im' fon must face with thrf_,ats of
court. c-ascus and the need to .*off ,v( xes' on aeaat Lind.
He stated he did not want to 1nfrttjqe oto
c r, he felt tle-,residents have rxqhts toxo. et tod
th,dt it I's not11° ' for the pet it to r t Compromise they
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Mr. Burke stdted he frelt the ppropi' l at e place for afacil-
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t $ sudh ds this would be In the "Downtown Plymouth" area.
adssiorl -defer GS# ion ort tis l-11kn4 o that, $j 41neeti
t; t ct tics field with the neighbors.
Mark McCullough,,, . X55 Rosewood L a ej stAod that the members
Middli, Last Nomeowners Association retained him the prev.1 us
ventriq to represent thelft as tflfJr attorney. He stated' he
had a prepared statement and would like to submit
t-he statemvnt as part,the record,, Chairwomanrwom Vislltou
stated that the position statement'would become part of the
reord$ however, ne ther staff nor the he
able to resporid In detail to the statemefit due to the time
t tete S t teem" t .
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WW viat € n he reqtw$ted that the,plansInq CbmmIs_
slon, defer a Uknl on the petitioner. it, 3tated that 0
pINVosal based upon the Cul 11 if virxj his
OreOred fOr "MighbOrh€au opo) ,, cents-0 uses and Resojt t ff
Go 73-310, paragraphs 4 and 9. He stated, ht- t h €€ ht this
MM not be 4, nel(Ibborhoodshopping center and eritfel,z (t
the Ktaff rvpk)rt In that the proposed " € ilc- wbobs " con-
Ifs INQUI t allOyl fOO1 KOM to rO€est that an Jtviro-
that the inivironmental Issues have not been adequately
Iddressed and that sV'h Utlon would 'Ix, itibmittod.
Mr. 40.lough noted that thP City met the legal require-
Mots for outie-Ing adjacent property owners hosvever,, tie
stated that the City uses the € es i tees s additional notice
He Indicated that the petitioner had not provided adequate
representation of the propoked developmentt n sumested
that the City t-pp; visit the exi,inq fde litter tp the
for; City area. Hexpre ed concern, about the etitione 's
r6mments on qurket studies an €gest ioned the €est irltud
million dollar payroll* No. c° .€qq. ;j: t at th
resit!vvts may have to go to court In oeder t o have their. tax
evakattras reduced duel to the impact o the proposal.
Mr. state t t" Pldnnliq Commission has one of the
choir a"d that is to defer action on the patio€ €j or to
deny the request.
tt kculluutl staM that the Pannin€mmissi should
recomimend that the tKwff anpetitie-:ier "do their homework".
Commissioner Flufka noted that Of PlanningMalission is
adMory to the City Council and that the petition. will o
forward to the City' Council r ,action repardtes5 of thee
OMSSion' ' 40tIon. He explained that the City Council
would,mdktr the final determination art. the 4 ue t._
sr e"Iselij, responded to the (.`"".. r -m ntand noted h Gila
of the required rasa kttt wou ri, tile r,41cility. fop
sttvtZed that fie sp-,k
s a d h)mt-umvtiers ociAl io & oNad tilt Irr
rm SOMItit OUt tht' rs tit illNxr rs, e so r c €d
five 4wez. ntwl)s where he opany Uni Out '* * 'ps
xr Cltt r sa s j wzX(, thy. m.r (rs- not, successful.
iWW-vc-1t Cdr:, eils .'n roposed to Mr. Jqcin that the f !ism
W v eek, with 'the t 'AlObor c residents. Mr, Uqoen was tt.),
i,-#rr a of phone cell to ire. 'ensen tindiedtino wh i. to eet-
rrrcr Could be areAnqvd. , Howeverf thIs did not occur,,
Mr. 7ensekn Inquired about tine existillo squViry ootam of tile
saSt-,asoiis Shoppina,neer, atid notedthat f int center
Mrr sen tritroduct-d Mr. Lyle Larson, Vtef, Presidentof
Yerak d *gat it v a onfortunate that
day Petitioner dirk not bring slides'* new stores t la
h ave been constructed in the last three to four yeart out-
s c . Tlyin Clties,. He explained that the fa(iljty` 111 the
Cit, o l oominoton Is be i nq renovatewl j dr `r'spedto r d-
s `apingt' loading docks. retaining 4 lls and, siqnatie. He
noted this fa6llty was constructed In the 154501 $ s a ware-
house
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ilia changing requirements n Clay of Ploominqton.
t4r, Larse-1 stated thatill -1.1' e l s and bales of ivtv shown Iv,
e slides were needed for a npecl . " rpt d1ld OLIt'dr: or Pro -
due -1 sale, M- tdot the collipany Is curr ei , ly
replacing 1leir 0-XiStinq grocery for riew carts, and
have made arrangements for trade-in- on I fje old cart,q. Tilt,
carts, located outside okl one of t (-pend' xM
etax a to the factory.
for. Larson r ted that the loading docks drmpsters.> and
Incinerator at the f r'..dley store are sereened Nvt b retaintra
iallsj, and weto constructed decordlino. to tile M666 Code of
the City
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Twp
s G .r: dewthe .+`6d f YIs B. k i r°i`
ovdtinq the Fridley store to upqrade the- acw` r r v}r`rr
r% ar Cdr the Ileiv evelo-prren ti(Ijacent to that site.
He explained thatin the past,three to, fcrrrr years, tbe firm
Dakota, and Wisconsin. The estimAed payro lbite s
cue forh i size r lli y wltfl dr r t ely 0 to
50 employees. He rioted thaft tileriLuAber of employees ul
Increase ve he Christmas holiday s0s ,
tit Llml 1 fit! OPMA S if)II Me t
Cummissioner Plufkd requested thjt staff m-sp nd to Mr.
h's committs repordinq the Land Use Golde PWsl"
Resolntltwit No. '73-330, snot Ice "(1 the mwerty owners. and
the Issue.
f'0011(1 of this property which Is hased Won the actleral
t; l a POV*;Aloe the neighborhood has of, a "IfTellhg, bo rhoo d
Shoppim (Toter". stiff lo. explained that Resolutioti, t,
7 ,Y$ t db l * Sn d er i
t rfa to be tf se **n ev 1jt * na comm"111-
it.y shoppine, center, proposals,and that the 41 t over had
to vnsure the of this dppljk<jti
Staff Aoxplolned that a anddtory FAW is not mquired, tier th.e
r mt t ward A eoulat ons. It wanoted
that 25 Or MOM People cot submIt. "l petition to the tate'l,
the City would deLermlne whieth an t-AIV was needed.
ub1 1 c fledringWot: A was, puW fated the ity' tee: i-1
ed that this was the onlv- rpquest jh'
that d firval plat ind site plan were atso, proposed. 'Proper-
mckrs within 100 feet (,),f the subject sate were sent
hedring noticesthough this is not required y laiv. Stdf
t to that tri gene i nt o t t d -e (Y a«n-
r;* Association, visited tile Cite ori s veral oea-
ons, and reviewtTet the plans and discussed the, proposal witti
Staff. Staff noted that the Homeowners Alssoctation teepived
The r°omtmlon r Geese t from to? 9-*?(,) Pitt. q"SS
MM"ON 1.Commissioner Stulberul, seconded ; y Commissioner
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t z erwald W act 'oil o M S pet itl* Vote A hes.
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hy, 'ormUasion r REMAVIEMPATION
r tat t { r %ornmwe apt approval of the Prellivniniary Plat as
submitted i*jet to thy* condittons, reflectetj tM tile .rift
Re soluttoll.
Bu it Ca t I Vote. A A. es. Mt t iott carr-'P(t,, VOTE
IT1011 bY as a ,.; Io er t u lh( ° , secopdled by Comm..'.s;, ao er RECO ,WENDAT
tttted, Subject to the '4*4 90.: $: ^,t
AY'six-[
eeted %+zl he draft
of
PAI J11 k0te, it ti .Y. $ ?" 14YTIP earrie . oTf:
ea. and vet by CowItAssloner MOTION
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Commissioner Pauhka stiited that tle would ,,,- tat the
p`tj l -1) t € A convinced t at the, tamp re resent
4gd.: whot Me City w ;: Teekin fir,? a i 1,ghb.*#JIiY,v'od +.aZi' ooptnq en-
er* Vv (. xpressed concern about the vlaint n ncc of the
fridley facility, He stated that the exi t n dour Seasons
whereas the proposal ivys more re a nI ill raAtUre.. He stater'
MO the tour Seasons Shoppill'(1 v flter does, not drdvv, from the
eqon, and consists fi multiple shopswith tadividuA
0 n
Commissionerinner t berg suqqested the Planninq Cowmisl-Ion
reel w A- the recomic.aaded aaf approval notino the re-
ata..atre meat that s1QnAa9e comply as ath Ve Ordinance taraavisions,
Old the eondi t i as a el at inn to w a t t° vontainers. iia that no
outside Stome is permitted. Ink, noted that ttlk. City's
dr) f ron, Sloo ?t ticit oti and. Fridley.
oMmi io er SLulberqt stated that he was Fat. Pressured by
stiltst;at,, threats of court In his ecision.
CormitIssioner Ha toes Inquired 'It' the trdff is c1rcmj<jtj.on and
flow Were ana
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xyzed. Staff re anded. that there mis a tra-r-
t to, study prepared with the Ilrevicus developm. nt proposed o
tit i -r to and It included nidert a.on s a, 1*typtcalll re -
U41 leve opmeat that could be allowed tar the Zoninct t r ln-
a a * } a The a - of the "t- ple l" rete; l use was
c(%,Par t) e to tills fay%s'ilt'y, and the City's tr consul-
tant Mauna that the rocidw y, system would eIle a te'.
xtse exPidifaed that In 19801 a study was completed to
for traffic sjqnals at theIntersection
f N tlw Law- and CtiLinty lioa(j 9. It ivas determined that no,
Ildtter Wh t t e Of dddttional dei'vest. nt o"urs in this
i :k ..a ""W-1z+k c"
511,411 -
1 i' $ required". e a ed"
Stelgerivald stated that he f t the proposal
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would ocmply With it e=r they community or ri-ori hbor hod shop-
T)IMI Ceilt.ekr cr terf . He rmted thatthe Zortinq Ordinapoe
w-ould allow for this type of L.ind U$C-., dhd that, elthe ° the
Guide t't rt nor t cull i t cprohibit a varjet%., of
retall uses dgotte roof.
Commilssioner Plktfka, stated that he felt the propose trdf-
fie can be handled by the area ro(t SV, t e and that the
Ze of the store wasq not unusual r undesirable,. f4c, stated
that the sseie- to resolved is they charaeter, of tile sttjre
and Its anticipated market area.
Voinni ssio er St l ear i. etc 11re d of the petitioner as. to )
t, l # Primary and secosi r tdraW di. errI
Insom stated that the _ primary area involved a t'wo M, I"',
d us t1round they store. This was determined by usr e
suave ., of pe rsondchecks written t their stares., and ours
re fe r ne°in with the zip, Codes Maps. They s collar v trade
rea is f zIrly ea defin d, however 75% of thei' pr,ijv t d
btisiness would be, eer teed from the primary aroa. 'k) rui i >s
oner Stulberq loonfirmned that 75% of they business vot1lij be
generated within a one to two mile radlus. 3erry -ie nse n
st tecd that 7of they businiess area ris anticipated from
east of 1-494.
Kull Cath. Vote. Commissioners t lber j Steleermald, a,.d VOTE
Pl f . , hay. MOTION ter fMet on a, t ej votes.
ommiss onerto rc d Chairwoman i sillou stated that
t hs- voted in fa'wr`. of they Motion ecavis they proposal
sat rsfi s the Ordinance, requirements. quire me ts.
NEW • i NP
Commissior.er Wire returned to they table,,
l. rwoman ' s i T introduced they ' request submi t t end kap M igr M K PROPERTIES
Prey e& -tres for % Lot Divistolt, two site ,pa rrs, diad var- LOT DIVISIO.
Ince=s for they oonst runt. rave of two office/warehouse bul Id, SITE. ,.A AND
iris to be located wt lthwest of the intersection of Fera- VARIANCE (830;!7)
brook Ldne dad . rd Avenue North. Readinq of they 3u ,
staff report rids wal end.
Paw
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t tf#d thdt he dpprecUted 'Lite work of staff and eonsid ar-
t l) by the Plasvdnq Cojrt$sion.He expressed concern
bot tie rocorroendtition , that the a c o to, FernbrookLace
t,he petitioner els ferrbrook
Lane Is collector rocidway whIch, shotAd provide tId
eirculatton to the paz,,eel
airy da d-, thou requested that staff sumaiarize the con-
cernsern with the propoze(j le,lecess. Staff explained .teat_ it has
been the practloe cel the City thit, If a pdrcel edn he c vo-
oped w1th 4ecoss to ,t public; Street other that the collector
roaftay,, access Is required from the other strz t. The pro-
I comply With this throuoh. redesitinand another
aocess to 23rd Avenue Norttt couldbe ns,14 ored if needed.
Sttlf f exp1dined further that Rui din 'A' as proposedi
twice the size of Boj.c rj IS, tj( roulffj a(,. ess to
ferravook tki p od that BuIldinq 'V, ctrculat sant. -
dot r tly w1t.h the proposed acce5 rd Avenue North.
Coaniissioper Plufka vxpressed concern abVilt truck rou- -
tion being directed through the (teneral parkin -Irea of
Buildinq IBI. He Inquired tf rs 11 .Xt ; ' o ` d e
vide to Fernbrook-.ane. Stceff NdIcated this had not
been specificatly considered.Thx _ proposal Is' the result _
h et t toner' dash t dIv tde hc- arc and t deveIIon
two hul r .-, of a certain iqn. Since this Is new
d(_tvelopment7 potential problems C-an, be resolved thrc uah
redeslqn. The crc;ut t"I'
Lon can Parcel P as proposed would be
affected If the -acuses to, ornbroo Lane weri eliminated.
C, m inner Wire stated tae was concerned that, if the
Access to Ferithrook Lane WerO eUm I nated, there would be
Inddequate radlus for tame trucks to Mre-ulateathe *t .
Mr. Schuck explallned that the Intent of the cit division was
to have the larger buildintl access to Z3rd Avenue t4orth
Ocie, Ivtth the smell ens buildt cif with less t aff' to
carnbroo e*
Y ws i l rrer , t g r v td stated h concurred with tax-T' S
obse h tion and Preft- red that the traffic antofernlyrook
Care# be from the street iniv I.-e tion. ''OMMISSion r Plufka
tatc,d that if the Fernbrook Lane dcis not permitted,
toile ITWire stated vedesitin would he ne--ded.
arc= NJ, 1914
Mr- Schuek Inquired If the P arnn to forLmissiorl couldd on t -
car~ W Yress onlyernbro ane. " t womwt has il ou
requireire ' desi(Iftof thenotedtits,tch {.qe would
hat
statedter
uld stt e
Plan. Staff elopment p p
Could cunt ivn$-itv to discuss atternate desiqn y with the p t
t inner -with irec from, the Plann`omm
4Jk4i'9Commissioner ..t.,#ti;7i'ZkA. A c`rrst€c° $. '4Fx7GrsS'1 tom 4.F3,N i,
Naqnus to Nfer action on this Petition fo ede tan, with DERR ACTION
no Access providedt t c*rnb t.arre and gest Parcel S he
provided its own access in ai t. o -t to the shared
Vote. Aes. NOTION Carried. VOTE;
c nst uN l rt COR9,311Y ` ' a Site Plan and variancee for a f- 011011 -- HTE ?
cw /Wdrehc use facilityto e loedtedsoutheast of the cut- AND CE (830
de -sae at 50th Avenue b}th. A L)q oho n, ¢90
staff report waswalvv .
te hff did (scat have uCstion _ UK—, staff'recommenda-
tions.
Chairwoman I Inquired If the proposed occupant f on_
templates any 1 0a.ail sales from this facility. ; A N t tr
stated that no retail qdles (ire contemplated.
MOTION y (OwAssioner St lb , sf-conded by C t joni!r RICO. NDATIC
Piuba to recoinn nd approval of the Site Plan and Vartairces
as submitted subjecYt to the conditions refleeted irk the
dnaft Resolution,
t-10TION b Commissioner Steigerwald, seconded by Commission er MOT ItN.'
Wire to move Iten 6 14 and i C on the nenda as the next
itti'as of business.
Vote. T Ayes. UT10 vk1r. 4I. h'a*d.
OLD BUSINESS:
AY ATA RAW 4, TRUST
Staff noted that the et, i t ione 'se: pre Srt: cit l e Called al -d LIC14TI14C PLAN (8301
was unable to attendthe vwetinq andeque t d that the
e t
Ptuni la coml,ssionMinutes
u$ 198.
0;ru i I i -,r Wire stated that tie was concerned that the
proposedtights unthe north property lin would reflect
Off t ( adjacent bui dino. Ne suqqested that the lla'it he
shielded or- that the to i n be rvluced.
MOTION by Cotmv isslutwr Plufkat sr,,eond d ky Commissioner a rt* RECOMINDATION
to recorrumend approval of the 11ahtinq plan as submitted with
the d ection that the jiqhts diono the north property line
e appropriately, modifled so that the wall of the ad n,
buildtiqj. will not be b i ht y ,lit.
VOTE
Chdirwoman Vdsillou introduced the request submitted by DICO -ENTYPPRISf-S,
BrW-C' trfle$S for ;d Kap ant Dl o terp is s$ for a Pre PRELIMINARY
ll*Mlniry Re illstcred Latid Survey and Conditional Use Permit REGISTCRED LAND
for dn office building I*n they 1_1 conic District located SURVEY ;AND
west of CfC un y Bo.od, South (if 17+h eue Horth and north m fgy
4 dhSIIAvenue. e5nstaff.'epo& HyYf=26d! PER
was wdcgd.
I. >. Bruce Digerness stated .bat., he had no questions relating
tothe staff report.
MOTION by ComMissioner Ste1qerwald,, s(conded by Commissioner RECOMENDATION 0
Stulberg to reoommend approval of the Prelitmindry Reoist red
Land Survey and Conditional Use Permit as submitted subjeet
to the condttlons reflected in the draft Resolution. Appro-
val of the Vd il nCeS Jts based upon the 'unique lot stttlation
dnd t sting site conditions.
Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION, carried. VOA
Chairwoman V stliou stated that stip* felt thepetitioner
responded aff I. ti vel the P'lanninq Commission's
d1re, #, lean, uud has provided a very solution.
t sintroducedcud t qu s sub i ted by ene MISSION P RTNERPUDSyfI4MissiotiPartnersforan, RPt 11)+ Rolderness for PeterALAND
Conditional Use Permit Amendment to chanae the type of unitP ST ` T
designated for two portions of the "31! -ea" (if the Mission A-338)
Development. She stated further ,h4t each Commissioner had
t d the sit-;- chid commented on the sionificant, amount ofcommunicationbetweenthe1,iLetitioner dRd 'the resident-,,.
Me
ne ZZ J 198.E
Chdirwomdn Vast t Lou, recognized Mr. 'Joe Tho)son,: 11705 41st
Avenue Mont., who stdted that he, appreciated the developer' s,
efforts to providing Information to the residents, an re-
quested that the PlannJ;,iq Corrtmlssion a c,'e t anct consider the
PhOsttitw, stat(;,Ment which was distributed to the CommQuion.
lie Stated nelphb=yrs were opposedJo the enduren. r-
woMan Vdsitiou stated that because the position statement
was received at the meetlaq, and staff has not revieried the
c 51 tenLs l('ther the t .t s ton nor staff would be dhitv to
respond I.n detail to the stdtemerit.
Mr. Thompson stated- he understood the Commission's polio",
dnd would follow it in the future.
The (Ommissiont, staff and petitioner read tile position
t cit'oment
hn V90ory 300 ENergreen Lane, stated he was roncerned
that the repainino condominium, units wdy be proposed for
rental t nit,s in tile futtire. He stated lie was less concerned
about the location of the proposed designation e ange. IRV
stated ere is a difference between rental and ownership
nits.
hairwao Wttou explained rpoe of the Concept
Flak which is to represent a "footprint" of possible (eve -
ment.. he sUted that the PUD provistosig in the Ordinancetnan
allow for design flexibility and therefore, canges may oc-
cur,in At s of pru'e .t .
3ames Sjorgen, 17135 Clounty Roach 9, stated that. he We
Ajacent to the project on the we side. He recAllod that
he was oncern6 ;t the proposed development in 1976f an
stated .hat the proposed amendment concerns him reqardinct
the Impact oil the value of his property, specifically relat-
tnoto transition an cv ckc=ning .
t Stated that the developer has met with him and explained
the project, howevert he is concerned about the difference
tit rental and ownership units.
Ted, Pestyll 11530 :tSth Avenuc At , statedtit is concerned
about possibledeterioration. f lie tlelohhorhood 'Tact that, ne
felt the density would rhantle because of the difference i
population and traffic* M& Pestel, Indicated the propusal
Is a OWNS" 'eanfle because cif the type of e"Pant, and
by it, concerned about crime to the ar a. He referred to a
ticentpublic safety study completed in the City regardSo
the
y
auuivit of crime related to the, existinq a srtr ,lt
Coralrwomdn Vasitiou requested that Mx. Holderness respond t
the comments.
MrGene H€less, eplaxineteathe crosse the Judy
O tt the tity Public cwt , D rtrunt:) arld lifunlcatvd there
is no data .. o re the aMount of crime per unit In apart-
ments N*1th stnqle family detached wee l i g . The number of
c° rtltceilved fromthe, City relates 'to the number of people
located In one area. Mr. Holderness Indtcated that they d m-
tntlf' Of value Issue t very subjectivand lie r €fid' t o
they studies that were submitted wtth the petitioner's res-
ponse. the COPAMISSIon's direction. He indicated that
there IS no i rr icntUAist l data available to demon -
t rate a difference In the rate of trier ea ed value between
singh.- fdm*l'v house$ 10cated near apartments from those
located dway from such developments.
Chairwoman past t vommented on the value}pact i sue
st4tinq that It has not been shown that th r e is a negative
trpdton values,a indicated that many rentersare e -
yonckditin doenter the 3meUM m,- ked+.
Staff explained that the M tropol tdri`crrrrrci 1, yds Contacted
4 possible data relatinq to this, and they Indicated that
there pere do trot the type, of veoe who rent. but
there r k,; este available to shoe a ne(lative valueon betnq
located to rental areata. Staff commented urthe that
f while there r e poorly managed rental complexes, th(-,ire, are
well managed projects, and the save is tree for condo-
thairwoman Vdsillou clarified the Pest 1. t. toner" s comment on
tragi' 2 of their narrative reg r din the, ' f { Council d1l
Me-
ti ra and noted that. the developer wool t Oave to mallitain
own..-rshlp for 4, mir0mu;rt of tell ), edrs if the project Is
Inanced through they "Loan to Lenders Proqramll.
Commissioner Wire stated he did not understand tbe discus-
sion in the staff report rvq rdin den-tty. The property
which the City lids purchased for they County Rq,d 61 projvet
waset rrt t t et n an area; map,, arra staff explaIncid that th(e
density to this U fids ic--en adjusted.
The t,:`omm r s r sir request(-!(I that the petitioner respond to M.
rete n's concerns. Peter Pflaum stated that they would
re-SPO d with d s eclf1.1c site Parr to provide adequate #germ-
In nd landscaping', At tirdt time, more details reqardinct
the Specific location 0,0 site Improvements, a. c as prk nq
would be known Mr* B,orqen. Indicatedd that it Nvas difficult
for hirn to support the proposal not seeinq the spectfle
t iqe 127
P larrrr t r pt Commission Meet l ga t
I mittents would be
relevant at the ,to pl arr $tjqe. Cormoisstoner Pltifkd
expl. freed forther that at the Site plan ta" the Plan tract
trroposall tic Uldt the lInfOrmatiort at < this stdo-, cxcarr-
Ce tu,il in nature.
y Pesten 11,530 38th Avenue oath.xpr else( coneern
about the Wjdoe rt, Lind cases to t r t-, a and requested that
surrounded ky multiple gamily ,and rental developments.
Me Commission requested that staff expliclin the discuss -lora
in the staff `f report, regardinq dens r t f sorra l t r rr.$ A
St-'(Afft the a)cAtti(Mert dnd the Commfsslon diset--tssed the
crr Bran al intent of the City Council provisions for stat t lon-
dt units basedupon tate provision of low dtid, moderaterat Income
and eldorly housing.
Mr. Harry 3e.wao r, k1ission Partners, stated the proposal
orlWinally Identified that % additional, units could bee
achieved if they w r+ developed for low and moderat.e t acow-,
Iou lastand,, that the City suggested identifyino a portion
to be developed as elderly housing. Peter Pfla m explillned
that the peLitioner lids always r( to provide lov ,
masts=r"rt.e income affordable housinqt and teatethat the crr-
rent CrdZinanee acres not ctt `fk renttate between elderlyand
other ff r dd le hou inn with respect to the density bonus
pointr ovi t rrs.
t„it` react Condition No. 5 of l t i on No. 76,157 r roar d -
n the additional unit.s dtlr wed,
fonnissioner Plufka Inquired If density conditions ' or
cootempl t *d a 10% reductJon of units, Staff
that Condition would most closely of le t , that.,
The Commission cissas acct the intended destiqu flexibilltv, of
the PUD provisions and the feasibility of not reqttjrijjQ d
Specific esOnat. on where the elderly housing might, be
rt t e -t d
ownpi ss torten St ui car”q -Jtatedj t er t the proposed<a aerrct-: nt
primarily relatelzi to the unt".'s bettip to rental unit , and
the 0% addition t, `bc nusr ' units have not, been reachedached yet
Thatt coat be e t -wed ds the PUD develops.
Cgmii ton(-ry t lu k(r Wentifted t dt development spectfteally
designed fc. elderly residents is different from standard
Rage t
June Z41, 1983
COMP-iss Wnerlagnus expressed concern t art if the (,44orl
trousi n . ea is not des (t t ed at this t tir. the riovel alrmen't
Of V1050 UtIRS may be let to ,develop as the last ly e s(„.
Coma-Issioner Stelgerwalld stated the orloinal City Coun Rt t
intent was to allow for flexibility Includin additionall
unitr, as the PUP develops, n h t. ttr(- gilder-ty housina area
5hould not be designated at this time.
Cts< t iv man asi tri ' reminded - tl a t c ref ; tc r t. t t c I t
requires a conoept plin tyed), and that the plant
Cove iloner Plufka, stat. d that, since the *rvinroved plan
design ted eemato unit. types, their the !)tarthotAl(t
t s ; otherwise, what was the purpose of Ithe proposed artion -
ent
MOTION 4y COmmi siOne tcrfl j seconded by Commissioner Wiree MOTION
to recommend approval of the proposed fit _! Condi t Ional Use,
k-' tt Amendment subjeot is the ondit n reflected in the
dttift Resolution, noti that tra Condition No. * the ver -
al density strati bre ;Oonsi5tetvt as described to ensit "Con
dttr
Commissioner Fluffs stated that Condition 0 NVOUld result tri
net Of ?6 units ivith creditstt for the xasttnand
current proposed low and moderdto income hour .-n units
Peter Pflaum stated that thissije se, ems to he what tne
orexia t, intent of the CRY Courvildirection,was regar inq
elderlyl and low to mod r t (, income, housing unit . lie uq-
qe t d that the issue be left for the City Council tt): (j t r-
ne as to its vriqinal Intent. He reminded the Commisslon
that today"s Ordindnee for density boaus points dotes not
dtfferentlate between elderly housing dnd other low to
moderate. Inco e housing.
COmmi Sion r Plufk A stated that the proposed Motion, provides
for credits forthe exilstina and urgent proposed low and
moderate rico-in' units, with no- desifitlated elderly hous,inq.
MOTION by Commissioner Stonin , eond d 'try Commission -?r RECOM WINDATION,
tolgerwald to amend th,; Kiln Motion d gnat (ondt t *on r1th-T,
ber* 4 vould reference t) ;r* i tv "Condition A”
Commissioner Stulberq stated that the proposal should allow;
flexibility to build out the 'unit #.r m, Ussic)ner ei -
ty td Concurred and adderl that this would allow the City
Council to determine with the t i t i omen, the c t'tt i ray
intvtnt of the resolution,
avle 1?Q,
2, 19t 3
HOT 104y ComwAssioner Stelgerwald, seconded by Commissioner MOTION
Naqnus to Call tile rttt st ion'.
Vote. 7 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Call Vote tin the Amendme-rit to thc, nt "ot i on `gas VOTE ON MOTION
Vast t tort Aye, mmr t rter- lufkaj, Wire, arid Mla rias Havi,
NOTION edrrivd.
11011 calt Vote qtr tile MairtMot* t trn as onceAmended. Commis- VOTF MAIN W10.4 ONCE
ion rs Pauba, Plufka, t 'tc r`t rrt , t-japo r , Sttjjherqand AKNDFD
rwo r . man t.tt tr Ayc4. Commissioner Wire tray. IObyygcarried.
Commissioner Plufkd stated that the followinq direction
should be pursued, at thetime of site Djan tppI*cjjtjoA, for
tarsvelopmntZ the proposal should consider transition
ttrtr screeninging etwee this develo' pment andjcnt proper- rotrtm -
tripties), r raid mush contemplatfi that these uses are 411erient
than the originally anticipated e lopment. Also, the pro-
posd.1 should carefully. respond to traffic circulation, o
that the traffic (wrierated by thlis development does not rit
t t * Into thc interior public roadways,, but is dire(,,,t-vd to
the collector rc dwa- ., The mmr. airy merry --- "" .
OTHER #5 .NI-, SS:
The CommissionWas reminded, of the Bares arid Reoreatton
tour atheduleel for 3uly 71 t.
Chairviown Vasilifou confirmed with Mr. Gene, H Iderness that
the f`iMOuth Devel m "t Council would consider the topics
f, r° i v a (e streets to the y$ and re tt t. rempat for r-
RECOMMENDATION A
APPROVAL . M
WAREHOUSE',
WHLRE,A, 3hrome Jensen, LyndaleTerminal tirl jarc rary. for '° 3 <r c rr, r four lots located In t --? oppino center usisl ss
s r
i),
edSt dnd west of Nathan Law'., north; of County ref d 9-, and,
HlJ*', , r PItinning Commission has rer1 i ewer 53ri rC"QUc s . dt -1 ij all cl PutiliHedringandrecommendsapproval;
y
OW'11 THUREFORLt l T K-11Rl-SOULD BY THE CITY C01jNCIi,. OF THE t,1TY OffL°MCPI H'
HINIM SOTA, that it should oind hereby c. des approve a Preliminary Plat for Jromeerase t,
riddleTerminal Compatry, for " oftdd We Addition" " for four lots located in the
shtppiriq center business district), QdSt and west of Hathan Lane, north of County Rued
subject: to the following conditions*.
OM rrc , With the City ElKlineer'semorwide .
Removal of 411 death or dyinq trees from theproperty at the wr} s expense.
ompli rwe with Policy Resc labor No.`79-50 recIardina minimum floor t4evations
or riew structures € n sites adjacent to or containing, dnye storm water
dratnage, f ctlity.
err zrrq Permits shall ssr ent i l tfV Findl Plat is Med vid recorded
withcar repro County-
5, Nard setbacks are qrdnted or Implied.
r:s2
PILANIUMV, COMRISSION RECOMMENDATION FOR JUNU ?'p, 1<984
T " CONDl. IM did, MET PRIOR FILINC AND REGARDING FWAL PLAT FOR, "HOLIDAY WTST
tHMAS, the ' Jty Council bt5 approved therrt,rl d l rt an evelt tt nt Contriact, for
Holiday, A d ition" as requested b3el-osis* Jensen, LyncialeTerm-f
rias
THERUTORE, BE IT t*,,RfPY RESOLVED BY TV% CITY COUNCIL OF UJI; MY Of PLYMOUTH,
t ltddd " OTA thatco)tj d n here-}- docs approve the ollovitn c% , e
turior to
pit
g pl
2. Remowll of d t dea d or Oylnoi treesee from the property at the o rjerls expen
5. pl:rdnot- with Policy Resolution No. 9 -Std r°prrar ditto minimum floor elewlt ion
new
g.
r[` t"
ttty `g'.:`q'
ps
l Sud?div r, r. n c .T ;'ti' C .'°. ,:C.tt ..i , #t any open. il"°#
tfor
X
4. No yard sett)aok variances dry ardnted or Implied.,
5. Subr,fttal of required at11 rt nd draindoe easements is approved by the City
ngl te r prier to, filinq the F rrr d P. t ,.
ryr}
f# ctpry{ra$ Permitst to be Issued unci the Final Pat r file n recorded
Et}
rx} $
PLANNING l at l tt RECOMME44DATIMIS 11m;!7,
APPROVAL R SITE PLAN AND VARIANCLS FOR VOLP CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FORMEW YOOK CAMERA
AND VID[Lol INC. 03026)
HER[:AS, Vole Construction Companyhas requested pr of Site Plan and Variances
for New York amera and Video, ile . for a 13t,064 sq. ft. off t eelwause4eill v
r alae.rt - located in they southeast quadrant ofcul-de-sac tat 30th Avexnue Morth, east of
11 rac by l t net- Barad,
WHEREAS, the Pldf'alng Ctmml5stori hirt-, reviewed said request and recorrimends aooroval;
NOW, T ERUOR s l: IT HERMY FILSO . ' D BY THE CITY COMCL tt THE CITY 1 YMOUT ,
MINNESOTA, that it should xid hereby does approve a SitePlan duel Variances for V 1pConstructionCompdnyforNewYorkCameraandVideo, Inc., for, a 13,064 sq. ft.
ffie e/wdretaeacr e facility carr property located in the southeast ;gcr c r ant of cul-de-sac
t 30th Avenue North, cast of Ranchview Lame subject to the followinq conditions-.
Compliancee wit a tP e ty Enolneer'st-lera€ar ra u
Nyment of park dedlOdtion fees-in-lieu fe e*atlra lit e4 or ace it
Dedication, Poticy in effect at ,the time f Baal.i %rara Permit. t € eae_ , with
credit for rail paving
Prov %tons for a --ft. wide trail edsementloutlot per Comprehensive Park
lora, as verified by they Parks and Ungineerina Departments, with submittal of
detailed PIWIS as to construction of the trail per Nty standards.
a dnc(* with policy Resolution No. 79-8() rectardino minimum fluter elevations
ez.s new .5tructures cera sites adlace nt t:ea or coaataiiraet any open storm water
Submission of required financial quarantee and Site Improvements Perfcirm ane
grey e nt for cool al ¢t l carr cat site l mprovements.
Any sign gex shall be It, compliance with the Ordinance.
Any, aata e rat. phases or expanstons are 5ubject to required reviews, and,
approvals per Ordinance provisions.
All wa5,te arid waste ont In r hall he'stored within the structure and no
outside stordqe is permitted.
Approved vzr ldnclir l ude* front: ` yard, setback 00 t` t .. vs. 50 ft.), they
tr al rq ' grad, from MY Code requirements for d fire lane on the south
ides of the bbl lell,ra ;
cl
PLANN MC, _COWIISSION RLCOMMENDATION APRIL 77, 1983
APPROVING PRI L 1 Ml NAR EGI tltu t,AND SU141Y AND CONDITIOUAL USF _ PHIMIT FOR OR 1
tlltlt 144 5 FOR , KAPL tl FOR DIM l; tl"fF`t P11I Sy INC. X830141
WHEREASI, Bruce Digerness, for Ed Kdloldft for DICOYnterprisos2 Ine. ha5 requested 401WO-
of d Pr el: iMr y Registered t4nd Survey and of a Con0l t Tonal , Use Permit for an
office b il€ in In the 111 District Err land located west of County Road 1S, south of
17th Aventie tte .•k g rad nortoh of 13th Avenue; id,
WtlLA , the City COuncil Mproved a Lot f'onsolidation, Variancelance an Parkina Plan
tri Otlgh WS triS 82-117, 612-1181, and V-119 or" Oleo Enterprises; and,
WtLt EASt the Plonninq Commission has r viked said requests at a WILY called f' AV,
Kr.°Tett and r*ccomm ad ppr oval;
tlt}t', %t, FORE BL. 11' HIJIM RLSOLED BY TTL CITY COMCIL Of THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MjA-
MIMI, that It should and herebydoes approve the request f Bruce Werness, for M
Kaplan for Oleo Enterprises, l= for Preliminary Re0stered Land Survey and fors n-
ditional Use Permit fear an ofc ui dinct In the ;- District on tared located west of
Gunty Road18, south of 17th Avenue North and north of lJtb Avenue, subject to the
followtnq corditions:
Compliancee 'with the City Enqlneerls Memorandtjm.
7. If evidence is submitted prior to the f! Iinet of the t: r by September 3
1913t which ev r comes first, that they sale of Tract C or 0 is imminent, the
applicable conditions of Resolutions -118 and -119 stall ie K g r°ems1,e et , d
r lt° approval and fllincl of the PeOstered Land Survey,,
If for whatever reason evidence 'that the lmmin nt sale of Tract; C or D is not
submitted'prior to filing the RLS or September 3€1, IM whichever comes fi st-,
etre RLS shall be revised rombininq they land In proposed Tracts C #nerd D into
One trdc:t applicable c0nditionS of Resolutions -118 and 84119 shall be
r trtemerated with the approval and f i l ir1q, o, the Req'ist.esred Land Survey.
4. If the RLS is not filed by September 30, 1983 the fifty shall, fil, Resolution
No. 62-117, o s lid tin existinq Tracts A and 13 of RLS 137r) Into one parcel:
and, per. the intent of Condition No , Resolution No. 82-119, a Resolution
onsolidatinq existing Tract. A, RLS No. 947 and Tract A) RLS No. 137,6, shall he
ftld.
m Tracts A, 1, and F shall be dedicated to the My and County as appropriate,
for right -of' -way pu p st.
6..r we t rrdmee shal.l comply with the City Street' ,amino System. Hardino Avenue
Wall be d sl rated 17th Avenue on the Final Reqistpred 'Land Survey.
A Site bled for the office building ball be submitted, d, showin landscaping,
trash disposal fa iltties, signaq, and exterior ilobtinet, prior to Council
review,of the Final, RLS ' r September 30, 198.E whicheverver omes first.
S. The verification of v0st inq utility services and separate' utility services
shall be submittedtted wl.,b the Final Registered Land Survey application,
pd(l(two
June 1
SSIon Recommendat !on '71,
1983
19,43
9. Approved varlanees Include.-
A) f rost y<ird of 30 ft. to 17th Avetme versus 50 ft'.
rcmt yard of 70 ft. to MqhWdy 18 VerSUS 50 ft.-I
to drive of 1() ft. to SoUth prowrty 11ne w,'rsus 15 ft,
1) Side yard to pirkin(iof M ft., to 50 ft. arid west protwr H-twe v -,esus M ft. -
Building etbacto side lot 11fle of 18 ft. of-rsu t
dskYy..6
Lh'VN NICOMMISSION R .0 I« MEN T I JUNE , 19,113
R C M" RADIATION
APPROVING RLSVISED RPUD AND CONDITIONAL IjSt ' P10-1-IT 1141 FOR, MISS1011 PARTNUPS-1 FOR
WHLREAS, Mission Partners has requested approval a revised RPUD Pldnanti Condit i nat
Usti Permit for "Mi ston Development" MUD 74-1), which proposes ttv ehanoe the typ ,r
unit dr-usiqn,01un for portions of they '131 Arel' from '1,c-lerdt yn t a ire ars
t ondom .11t tit_t" , t _ vtMIA units, t tet s +tth of the intersection of Lerch
IEl P . f Lhe Cite, Council under Resolution Nos. - and 78-579 approved an RPUR Plan,
for Mrisslon Rdrtner5 for the development known as "Mission Development"; drill,
WWRLASI iiia Planninq Commission has reviewed said request, tit a duly ealkd jorblic
hearinq dtid recommends Its approval;
OW, THLREFO V fit, It HLRLBY RUSOULD BY THE 'CITY COUNCIL THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH
r MNLSOT $ that tt should aria hereby doss a res*v- the reouest of Mission Partners for
revision t9 the RPUD Plan for "Kiission Development" t.o chanae the designation of two
areas In the "31 reals from "elderly" housing and "condominium" units to "apartment"
unitsis I.a at i soutouth of the Intersection of Larch Leape and County Its d 9. sbxje(t to t
Compliance with applicable r uir mens of_R sort tton Nos. - and 78-579.
final Sit. laps shall be submitted and appiroved per rdinance provisionsns
for Planned Unit Developments.
Total number o units for the two areas remains as ortoinally approvedat , 1
its
The approved overall RPUD Pida shall be revised to reflect the overall dorsi ty
as ,iescribed IN Condition Wt as stated in the June 2Z,. 1983 staff report.
slyR