HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-11-1983CITY OF PLWOUTH
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Community Development cozr'-dirlatur
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PU13LIC HWIINCS
hdi WORT01A VVISH IOU introduce..d the request y ifEr le ERIC FOSS
41tten d which would exceed the Ordinance provisions t. 4615 PERMIT (93020)
OaRview Lane,A i g cf the May ?$ 1945taff report Baa
Illy Chairwoman Vasiliou Inquired if the petitioner i1aft any
rA-testWns. Mr. Foss Sdiff, d that e not have
but wished to compliment till* City staff for the expeditious
processinq and revise procedures.
Chairwoman WillOu OWN the Public Redrinq as no one was
Present to sPeakon,this item. ,
1110TIOIN, by Cowudssiotw.-r liteigerwaW, seoon(led by €'.;mit ss I otter
auba to take aotton on this petition. Vote s Ayes. om-
HOTION by, Commissioner Stelqerwald, seconded by Con.missloner RECOMWNDATUN
Pauba to recommendapproval of the Conditional Use Parmit
application foc trio Fos,.% ;stjbjecto the c n(j,1S as
In the staff report. VOTE Ayes Vol.
Plufka absent. NOM)14' carried.'
hairwom Vasitioo staty that the CovVissican w,
sides Item No. 5-A of the aqerlda prior to the cnt icyi
of Item* No, - ,
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s=, and tteyFistfer. tot D'v Ivd Lot OT CONSOLIDATION
Cortsislidat,on for p regxt t t 0c#.ted at WPIi and 150 14 '"o of 83 013)
AdRoad1,7. fk, lif'Q t4d. Z 1984 staff report I ds
Chairwoman Vasillou rc otlnlzt.d Mr, Fisher who
wl she ,:.t '?i .b4 on Ta fiY; $ M: 19 p , .F ..
i their: lots o _ equt e procedures o SIR asn4twithY ° hm / A' t was ,.5 f6r.3,b & k:Fd', Y i t h teas 9, '4 kR i r€;hen t.,
NOTION by Con,,,Iss
Ne A0101, un this petittor,. VOTE,. A Aves. rot!,,_
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ber(I to rcconirzend approvdi of Variance Lot
tot d in thtt st,,Iff report. VOTE 6 Ayes. Commissioner VOT .
HILARINO
Chairwoman Vasilliou introduced the, request submitted v,AT BANK TRUST
kiyz4ta f rig & Tr tmoony for P ttin j rjrj t)t t NEZORIM, F114AL PLAT
Site Mart and Vart request Ingid(` k to constrtict d SITF FLAN AND
brcirtch b4nk vilthdrive-ttj)j*tie$.hairwomant Vasil :ou VARIANCE'S (830,17)
onflI med Oldt t tit remmmended Park edicat-lo tquir meats
are as per the City's Poliqt and that the petitioner (tees
lot PrOPOS ' to fw lve a mess.,we reader hoard for their s n-
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zoadnq- " the aruposed finalplat IV jnd eneral deseript-1."n
tif the proposed silte tp1dii. It was 1101ted thatALL,
viould be needed for the proposed staoklnq do,,.1qn, v t er. I
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altertidtino me_ssaqe h0drds, dre not a1, ,oxvcd per tt--e Ordin-
ancenthat, th titie ropproposes tmil eraM(
a which t tt believes ts within the intont pf' the
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It Was identified that the love' level ()f the proposed
buildinq is to e used or storaae and therefore, i tot,
in(At d(-d In the paj,IJnq ealculation.
hdsPole t, or lower level is not hAbitable. staff explained
this, et rr,- ntry theproposed or et as , Ure-
lates
kd that this Is similar to the r Odnk pit Hjqhway
fi
COmmissioner StekerwatdInquired wn f Ordinance Prov
werp adeptV after research three years Aqo.
COmmissioner AMper a d stated that: the c,dinanct Oajjs
attention to the primaq, primaIlse of the iand the drive
areds. Onoted th4t the primary useproposed the sub-
ject Propert, is d drive-throuqh facility. Staff explained
thdt the Orditance intent dMesse the e floe of tQ
treffle A the t t t 1. qr d cit
the Petitioner how often the 36 war stackinq area would be
Casey Posen, txecutive VicePresidentf,
Wayz- ta, TV stitted that In the 5 years they have operated
similar ravility in the elly Of t3innetonk-d', they rarely
had that number of Cars ' tdake . It was explained at the
Purpose of the number of drive-throuqh Jane,,,, Is fo, C%jstom(!,,,r
COMMISSIoner Stelperwald inquired how wqch average time Is
Vent With d ct"StO-Mer- Mr. Rosen V-Xplalned th<it on an, aver-
age it takes approximately A Mirtutes to serve, each vit-stomer.
Commissioner Pwnba stated that he could Aderstand Mere 6
Idnes may cause an impedence to the inq; howeveri the
proposed number of &Ive-throuqh lane a could Ossist in ry-
during the amount of congestion, Compared to fewer lanes.,
Commilsshner Psuba inquired if Saturdaywas their busiest
Mr. Rosen confirmed that; it * and that their'Satur,
day hourswould be from 800 A.M. to ItOOJ4. GinnM In
Ottbd V -ANI the Puse would have, more, limited hours
of busine N the existtnq service t ti '..
Commissioner Wireinquired about the proposed helqht of tQ
sign. It was OEM that the slon shotjlo comply vjjtfj tty.
HAn3e maximum height of CStaff gyest d that
this o specAfled in the Motion.
dites Wayz ate, IN", the
architeet, repres ouno, the pe t It I rWIted teat the
rAdvkinq jildn Is thased UN(V 20 -ftp, .`ar letioth. To da, y I
dverW!"O edr IVINthIs less, tie-refo , there mai he
Aditionll St4eklwl area. Vne petitioner revieiwd slides o
t I OXI$tInq Sloth t4tnnetonka i y, RUT
B - TVIst `onlpafl t an Wrik „ fulkd-Orient who
will t t i
arlager Cf , - 1`11 Mknith facillity.; tr* Rosen oomplimented
stdff for t1wir work durtno the review oke kind t d
that tto :jec ` tsrt ht projectnt of ~
new ', . for Wai at Bank & Trust, Hcy stated Malt the
proposed facility Us 31b,411-larto she existino Minnetonka,
V<icHU t and that after loo tw; at several sites, they feel
that the proposed loc.1tion *s the berg site for their, use in
the CRY*
St af f autethin the petitioner subimitted sttE thracioh
Sectiorls tit demonstrdte lvhdt the sitewould ike upon
Ron- Hedlu dt 1635 MerrifthdC 2 Staffed that he has mixed
the plans with the bank representat,ivest al d Ve.
that the r0a ul e c° tt t
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v,:,Xx t nq L Jsu. vever# -diond stated that
Merrimac Lane .i's a resWent ial street,, and he, was ci)ncerned
about the tvnt *All traffie, that rjould bei qetae fro , (
Aurth ds MAI 4S the South,, tie stated t ,,A he is oppO$c-,-q, to
Mr. liedlund continued, that he Is eoncerned wilth the
draindq in this general dr,(Nthere. have been problems in
the past with oeKt *
Chalrwoman VaSiliou oMented on the Ordtodnee requirements
recidrding site draltiaqe., She statedthat she feat there
woulld be no way to design, a Site 4evelopment plan v
would completely preclude traffic.
Cot missioner Stelgerwald coof
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r ed oat the hours o
rat tin, are 11-10 6:00, J- 'Monday through, Thursday, and #t
Duane Langstont 150 ME= Lan-, requ(,sted a review of
traffic imi sidential street. nqu If the
addittonal tuirn, Idnzes proposed for'(,tun Read Z would ervf
s a staWng lane for the bent:. lie explainod gest he
resides In the first house on Merrima(- Lan(- .Inct is concerned
about e traffle Wact on hisproperty. Concern was ex-
pressed
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re s e that the subl#Tt parcelIs locatedre across
the street from a sohot,J.
Ana 11` nt6 rimac, Lartelt stated that she. 11as w()
children, and that her neWbor also has two ohildren. f4s.
RYdU MPress >d 00=M 090 the potential traffir Impacts,
aOd Inquired w Y an access tould not be providedo Wunty
Rodd 4. SAS.' Inquired If the FuropoSed access to NOW=
Lees is a two-way access. t4r. Rob t)hns ri explained that It
LS d on - tly -etrzince to the proper- .
Ryan rvcklod that when the City Guncil reviewed the
Super Vdlu constructionplans, h an ;rce$s to Verkmw
Lane was not permitted. She stated that a buffer jont,
should be retained,
I -lilt Smith, 1705 Merrimac Lees,,. tated t .h Is concerned
with r f f all ro m th , z ' ima Lane fl
statedh rt are exlstinq problemsIn this area e
Or- UngstOn inquired flow NYdrive-through lanes are pro-
posed. Bob 3ohnson stated there are six drive-throuqh
lanes, an ne automatic teller machine. The 6 lanej are
proposed for nustomer convenience, and Mr. 30hason, relter-
atedthat In existing faciii i s theys tad nt, ne0ati =
Mr. Lanoston confirmed that the Wmetonka facility has
crc-through lan s ith stocking for 30 caps.
Leon Meyer, 1735 Merrimac Lane, inquired how many tellers
would be cat duty for the drive-through tt "; and c -
i` e t s t there would not be an access to Guntycad 6.
else concern that the proposed circulation cov
Present h aceddent este,
Hob Johns rt reviewedd , e i study prepared by e
t 's n l i g traffic enqineer., T.re ne1qhbors and qtr,
hnsoti discussed the qeneral trafficpatterns that would
occur
kas an exit onto lqiqhIV4l 101. qtr. 3ohnson
tat O t u ctt hovii ver they dre I Imi too
t lv Oagt be to the (-Xistino intersetltons, and thev lf,<t cz,
do not a a lamle flo i t c, to Intermix the cto
t pa " ;l Walk to the tjn Ylth the drive-throtjoh
oIssion. =ragnu toted teat the t a- t M . ts
tj-,ai MR Of the €- fi t- t-Lrd'Ific would be from the north.
Ne'expresSed e0acern about the trarfic pattern that would
p1dits dor tliqhwoy t" Thane are no I m provem ' it n.=,ins
ttct t elr COPItal Improvements Proaramo the
construction of ., mecl mi.
issioner aha *ta cutquIred if there were c`:g about
t 0se WhO would ledve the site and want to tura left (east)
onto County Road 6« Staff explalned that 4° ct .
were <ittt a,+ 11at pctthan those that afire t exist. ,Staff noted
taut the proposed circuldtion would be an 1 mprovewent over
today's t at t that ` the 7*x*Stlnq Curb Outs are ctloser
to the itte t ions.
rmi a. nMaqnus inquired what: impact, the proposed
a c ele t o lane onto coulityRead 6 Nvould have on the
existing i tial. , an( at stem. Chairwoman
Vasill"ou stated thdt Eric Bank Director of Parks and
eereat n$ has indicatedthat the situation ea bt-
adequately addressed b mov i q the eater furthere to the
t tttCOMIntssioner MaQrlus'auestioned whether tt zoo
to do that.
Rob hn stated that the pet i t'Zer :*is wIllirl to, work-
withwork-
with the City in order to rejoedte the math, ,i any
I which wouF be required. The neiqhbors discussed
their concertts aboW traffic c Z t i , accessing t "iq -
t ay 101end the number of children in the area.
alrw mda Va Itt i rel t . correspondenee which Iva$
submil, tod by Erickson SfVt r Villu supporting the proposed
development.
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S. Ryan stated that the Principal %kn9od School is
very vonoerned about the development, and was not aware of
notlflf;,d of the proposal.
Commissioner Stelgerwald Inauired the re ; tt for not propos-
inti, an entranee fr6m ft qhw (t. Or* 'Johnstui e.xp t
that such an entrance Cotild be provided but It would rv"Qt- ('
Wer drive, Ond varianceso yard !Aback requirements.
Staff noted that the site layout would have to he revised to
Prrovide 90 degree parking on the west side if an entrance
were provided to HI(Ibiva,
aim itisdon r Vibe stated he felt a eurh cu uld b
Ptywt t t ed MRO VAQ Had A howevor, If that Is, not
PoSsible, then = in -bound entrance should be provided tc)
Highway ()l' tie t At " that it was not appropriate to
Locate an untrinee from Merrimee.ane, singe there , he
alternatives.
The Qr*lssion discussed the resulting trafite virculdtion
that would oecur it an entrance and exit were provIded from,
and to Htqhwfiy 101.
expres-
concern that the proposed landscaping does not provide
ddequatt transition to the first h vse ;on the west site of
FOrrivido Lane In that: the residents could see the develop-
ment through the access int from flerrifliAe Lane.
The neighboring residents expressed concern dbfitit potential
tone term impacts with tratfie as welt 4s tack of proper
burfering upon their property values.
Chairwoman Vasillou c%est the Public flearinw
TheCommission recessed from 9*,O to 90511.14.
Ommissioner StGoerwald requested an explanation as vfiy
n Ingress andr ou not be provided From and ono
Highway. 101. Mr. Shnson typhined that su-'i an access
could be provided, however, t "ould requtre variances ro
t l Otic#lean ., setback requirements. ter misstoner : t 1qer-
w4ld suqqested thay the petitioner investioate such an ac -
WS white nta n .n the proposed entrance from Merrhav,
Lane.
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Minutes
1963
Cor g SSIOner Ville stjogest'ed that the entratice onto MerrIm&
Lane bt- a right, turn -In only. Rr. Rosen statt-d tihat the
site Pldn, Geoid be revilsed to tandbtt j left turn Into the
u' NerrI11 ac Lane. A, he stated thataddax to
green drej eok,t1d be provided,
ColmMissioner Wire sttod he still hdd concerns rtith traffic
rld potentlat stack-inq on Countv Read 6.
i sioner to ewd r ledrive-through
Lines are ut"111v_!d at the nnaln harp*, acilit'vo Mr. Resell
stated that, 7 drive-th ou h lanes with 50 stkdric spaces
are provided. He reviewed the distribution ods the ra s -
t i n s as It, re . tes to inside bdnldnia customers n drive-
through t - ome .
d4r. Resell commented that they are also concerned about tri '
fle t a- is n that. the site must he <. ojjvehderrt to the
customer. Re stated tthey Feel they rnot cl* 1
addItional trafficor Customers) In that the customes are
aiready In this area rid part of the ejst *r t t .
Chdirwomart Vasillou staled that she felt the taint et rr a fac-
t tY worries well, r$ that she had mto tore t-lhe facility t
see the site o1rouldt Vont.
C(immissioner, Wire stated that ` die felt the site ; circulation
couldbe -nh4tr *gid and inquired h ent ran ? cored not he
provided to County Road 6. Staff explained that Hennepin
Courity reviewed the plans and considered the distance to the
d.rrte se tial s between Merrimac Larne 4nd County Road - the
in.erease in traffic to the area, notwithstandinq the bank;
proposed future de%,r-lo r eht considering the shoppinct center
zonina to the sore`;.; ,rrcdl the traffic that would. re erate.
flennePth Countyindicated that no otlrbut would he permit-
ted
Commissionerto er wald ;suqqested con i er=l.n rlqht tun
entratice from Cunt ad Staff expressed concerft about
of is l:th the intersection of tf rrlmac Larne and county
Rob h so also stated that such dh entrance would
Ant er the eter° t lape from Hiciliway 10
Thi,, Commission dxssed the petitioner; s development time
frame.
NOTION by Commissioner Wire, Seconded by Commissioner Maonus
to take action on this petition. VOTE'. 6;:dyes. CompiI
stutter Plufka a4sc-nt.,MTI carried.
Pldnonq eommjssjp t 1,11111U, tes
A -111 191,913
MOTION ,yo m i ioddd-d Wire, seconded by Chairwomannasi i 011-1 RECOf4f-MATION TO
to defer oonsideration of the fk dZo niddd "J; Final Plat and sitc NFER ACTION
i rd d;)PIleitions for r de iAn ons-ld idd e Pianninq
d d.k loi and pecifld*aii tore«drovestigatk- the
poAszsibillty of (odd jecess to Co-jrtv Itoad , to ex ad114 the
Highwdy 101 4()0e35 to include , nqr and 'r - to provide
Ali uninterrupted transition diono, Merrimac .ane whilfle main -
a awin(;; the errlt a; entrance; to navies the Lindseapinad
berailnq by dddi,tig dddlitionald d arounddd
signage to screen the sicirk from the' res.1dences to the i nt
year round; torevise the s10 heictht to comply with the
di d add d dnd ` to c()n i der yard. ' ack a tdne5.-
deed the proposed; access points. it %as st,1(jqest-6 that the
entr4nce from tlerrlmdd; Lane aneled in Stich a manner ; to
Provide additloncil trditsit.iOn for the house on the eget slAe
of Meert m<lc Lane.
d M a d t k( gerwaldu ed that stdff Ifivestiqdtestd
toPU$Sibilitles of a traffic islandeiddd installed on
tlerrimac Lane. CommIssioner Maqnusrequested that consl(ier-
adof the k to idUa:id ididdd d<V4. the d
This was accek pt ed*
Mr- ROSeR noted teat a median 'n Merrimac Lanewould prevent
a left turn entrance to the exi'tinq, residence.
h4irwoMdn Va iltou stated tha the Public Hearing would be
continued and the resj`ent wd ddld be re-notleed for the
meeting In whitiht eetitio returns. Shp also tjage t d
that the petitioner v e he «plans Yl e ,1d jdc en re a
dents In oder to, hatidle the processing expeditiously.
VOTE -6 A -yes,. Comml.,>sloner Plufka absent., MOTION, carried, VOTE
Ibe Comm-is5lon also requested additional Information regard-
ing bea fi report statistics on the number (if customer
Ardosdetions and on th,,- impact upord the traffic generation
if thereviere d, Ingress from Mqhway 101t as well as from
staff st4ted that, the 'wcad.iid re-connot Hennepin County
about aceels to County Road .
Codi IM" t"I'L .j:. _ WIT FOR ' . FOSSI, 461S (MI(V t IN LAW 0430701)
WRE'As' trie V. Foss, has reqn.jested a arovd,i oa'e 461 a otter Ose e rmi to locate 6
dmiteur ra nten excessR- e nin District Npliqht standards a
HEIRLA , the.'jollin Co-' 510€) bes Vevkvied sald request at as eity public
ed i nq dnfl h< q r c-e-u mend #d 4pproval,
T HIEREBY RESOLVEDTf* . CITY COMICIL OF THE CITY OF PL YMN0131°I 1
MMM#Ik S TA the Lt Shoudd md h rctav _ does aparov - the request (if Fric, f . F(i to loeate
an i Ae r radio antennij in f xcess R-1A ioniniq Districthplqht standards4 15
kview Lane subkwt to the i fflowinq vondiion:
I. The permit Issued to the ope r a c - p the fai(Ality and
Slidif riot he transferable.
2. No slonaqe shi t t be permitted, .ire the tovier.,
3. IN.,, permit Is stibjectall ap ot oodesj rte t latlo s, -and Ord-Inaptel-15 and
lcatit 9 on thereof halt be groundsfor revocation.
The permtt Shdtl e renewed lei one year to assure complimice with the
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