HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 03-23-1983CITY OF PLYHOUD4,
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HARCH 23,1 198.E
The re( uWrwetI of the Plytilotitil plallnijig lyAs
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HEMRS ABSENT: Commissioner Plufka
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MINUTES
NOT10a by Commiss!'oner Ste1qerwald,, seconded hyComumissioner
wire o approve the N*ntjte_qt-tf theMarch 11, 19143 4eetin
D111 CORote 5 Avec. CoMird *oilers Paunu,5 and Plufka
absent. MKITion carried.
PUBLIC 14EAGS
thairwoman Vatilliou Introduced t polltlon submitted by PORRINGSTAR NURSFRY
MOT111114st,ar t1ursOrY S0001 for (I 'i iona (Ise Permit SCHOOL,: - CONDITIOM
e x tschoo: From theEny (hureh to b JSF PERMIT (83006)
100,,Iced in the sttt a-comer of Haoad and Nathan
ane.a
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n o Har . 1191a- repo.; was r r'.
y McIntyre, 12615 49th
tt t t, stated site a ago t orn Questions
Iv the -Adff report..
Commissioner Pauba st ited ippetir *ti thdt thesmor(i to the
lidat sentence Mrs. Vle, l-s correspondeme dated Ufarch
19t0 was Alisslino d word. t4l - ntyre st4tedat the
eritencc* $houlO mad"Due to the Landseaping desion the pj,,av
dreg would be pdrtially concealed from Oritban Lane by a bertm
and a f t `l v c' i- 11-1ce off a u r a.
I-10TION by
bera to take apt ton on this petitiom. Vote 5 Aver`. Commft
siot'PrS0,4tt tit tln Pt ke absent.. MOTION cam"ed.
NOTIMI b x
a car (ionded by Commissioner c.a t- COA D
ierc W,_ ; k ;cf approval of theCyn n ; e Permit
r Y uest to operate ka nursery sel-xiol for Mor-naaaca fdr la —yWoolubjOtheconditionsasstatedintoestaff
report. Vote 5 Ayes. f0firm, 1,SS loners Wonus and Plufka YOTF
absent. s € N carried.
U.S. Sme Orporation for kmendm knts to the approved Me RVVISSFID, SITE FLANtPlantQnditlOnalUOOGraf. , ,and Final Plat for the Men- C1901TIOM. 05F
foga Placa"I condomintum davelopment WAY east of Trenton PFRI41T; AND FINAL PLAT
Lane and north cif Cot,taty Road 9. Readke of theMarch 7., FOR 11TRENTOM P MS'
90 staf F report was w a v&%
Chairwoman WHIM taa, aubll, edr as Z.ac recoanize
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drIe.4,' kidT+.n,, In e a: 4.CW .i i eb :. 138,11ustis St Yeett
representing the pet.a ion r*isslon r Stelqerwald re_
quested the Petitioner's reaction to the staff's snooestjon
to relocate the tenniscart nore ccutral Ictus.
Fir. AN i n eaa pl ed that var-lances, to the Ordinance r e fa ick,
re vasa r menus would rn-eded at an 4ilternative locotion, tie
topr-)qraphAlt 4ternative locationse er , andAr the
tennis our would encroach a i a -veli oaf fair
locations.
CommissionerPauba addedgest to relocate the courts would
rpquire a considerablecapital e a . He Irouiredx t,
were proposed to fence the picnic area located directly
wrth of County Road 9? Mr- Winden expl,ilned the purpose of
the vWorosed amendments is that this typt, of evelopa a
generally aloes not WSW children. In a sintilar develop"
Ment belaq CrVn ruc„" by tileiia Petal a oiler In the. City of
81comir9ton, there are very few, or no children ivaaa in
the units., This proposal is for the use by the adult resi-
Vats, therefore, no aacing around the picnic areas are
prop The tennis courtswill he `encod, qtr. winden
also noted that anothor picnic area is psoposed closer to,
the Pool area which has a m rt4 central location on the Batt,.
Commissioner ; f. er r eques rd the Petitioner's reaction to
1111ePIA o fat ' re-Sponse to the proposed. siteplan 4meaddl-
meatit relates to1bonty Road 9. Mr. irld nxplai a
that facer Is 4 :, f id1 'vertloal differencebetween
elevation of Wa my Road 9 and, the area for the tar wnsed
tennis murta. If the vonditions exist for the acedfor
sound barrier it will be constructed. Typically, this type
of sowed l% rrler could e a 6 to ! ft. timber wall.
loge A
zbc re %he e peopl ' Viould park, thetr
core they drove t the tennis courts. Mr. findei ex-
PIUM there would bt. no real rn for the users of I -he courts
W drive sae an internal private` pathway system is keine
provided but , they noule park by the most. isouthern buildinc,
which fairly close ;to the tennis urt . The petitioner
Te park by the tennis courts as It
Ott .,.
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may
C00tumissiotter Wire inn i, g courts or plen&
areas ars 'to be g t(v idea confirmed that
q t-ing Is proposed.
WOMINSIoner We WOO O .i t if It could be imusu l
to require sound barrier be eonstrue.ted before new ci t:
Sao 9 is constructed in thatremains e seen whether
or not there w.il be a need for sound barriers. It was t
that he City M4v not have oe In the responsibility
the ty fl truction of sound barriers that the construction
Of QtY Rad 9 Is 0 County project, The correspondence
frOM WnWln WAY steles that when the ultimate road
ronstruction occurs a possible need for ` noise barriers may
exist- The %missiOn Could elect to het the Vennepin
County recommniaxat, ton stand as is.
Chdirwoman Vasiliou inquired who will determine the need for
the sound barriers in the future. Staff explained that at
the time the reed develops the wency responsible for the
road c onsu I Aon (Hennepin 'cit ' is responsible for the
barriereonstruotton. Mr. Windon expanded that at this time
the level of ' noise would not require the c truetion for
noise barriers. The Oarmission- discussed the need for =noise
barriers.
staff related in example of a` somewhat SAW situation
sear Kingswievy Perms where thinne ofa Departmenj of
Transportation suggested noise abatement foatures be Ae
AdAM t to HU Y 101Wth the initial development of the
project. tHo the Trenton Place development (;jt ; tior
Is reversed I At the roadway Is not constructed at this
time* Thus, while the Comrnission could find that some Heise
dt :' el t features were t b the only caw. from
opproved J)tans 101th this, proposal, is the ,tennis court
relocation. We ' oeatioi 'and dralqn of the ive in are
the same
I'lanninq Cornmission Minutes
M0 31,198
Com-missioner Wire InquAreo if any lan(iseapina Is proposed
around the tennis courts any vr rr t the ap
ed Lindsedoetkin are propQ$ed., Staff explilined that the
approved aod.v ape PLIn I's trot )e rip, . qn that Il
ould-Itionals$krosd
14r.F ` f Is, v4.1rr t) v x
xa neo that there are existina t,rPe,-# near the proposed
tOntlis C-Dart(a atllwhich would be retroved,, but st wotild
retained. Staff oonflirmed that.the Landscape Polley does
ire tiny additional, lantinqs. riot requi
n1-"S1V Q Para , ird what the distance would, I)e fro
the tennis courts to- the 4 tual pavert for rrer `County Road
It was Identif lied that, r rCounty Road 9 ivo Ad he
a 4 -lane divided roadway, ` she tennis courts x ujr approx
ra to 7 - et r .n, the roddway. Mr. Winden also
idt4itified that ' torr, Is a 14 -ft. difference In elevation
between t f tennis ii ourt and County Road 9.
COMMA r Paubd stated he would not like to see a noise
Carrier constructed at this time,,; find that the reconimenda-
t1011 MdY be a moot point for the Pldnnina Commission to
r
Commissioner Stulberg inquired if thela-cle. of a tot lot
would present problems should children live in the dlon-
a . Chairwoman Vdslllou 4tated that if children are res'
ll-
dents of the prOeOt t t- oPen space areas would avall-
Ale.
OW -Is nOr etre expressed conoern aboutt tyre i inti e
of tennis bails being hit beyond the tennis court ar it
toward County 101"dd.0 and the related safety concerns.
Chalrivornan Vasill a closed the public hedvina.
MOTIOR, by Commissioner Wire, seconded byComoi ion Nar a
to fake action on, this petition. 'ot Avec, o mion-
rs Magnus and Plufka absent. MOTION car°ri.
i n ter Wire expressed concern aboutt the lack of a
landscaplug, t- ed themiss o -AAe action Or,
the MIA Plat n that It may be processed for tw cot,-
sideration,,
ot,
i rat n,, arial request that the netitioner address t r
landscaping for the Planaln r Commissionts review. The m-
ission discussed whether or riot the other members shared
tile; Sage concerti. Commisstener Wire explained that he
wishes to r vieky what landsodping treatment Corr% beprovid-
ed or the tenals courtsand statedthat t t, Petitioner
should consider the residents w o live to the south.
law,
o. over t ale stated, lie ree.ornized the ped it'lon r*
thO t 'tt is Mtlrt t N tIOD And that I t would ne
dSOWI' tV tO exp(t SOWN type tandsc aplint treatment for
the
I
coli ,r romit oner Stulberq StaU'd tt Uould be ver
Ofect t vely screen the e.l urt s
court' proposed . attort.
COMMIssioner Steigerivald noted that the pv !wast could
prepare 't landscape plan for this area, sub.'ei t to stdft'
the PlIfinninq Comn-4,16,nion MAd Ulke Positive action on the
ttert grid requtray teat. rior t theeon t"uctioft of the
t *grit curt area,alan. t approved for 1,andscaptna.
Cow-w A n dubd Indicated he area shAred 4 con,,pec;n about
parkin(i near the propposed tennis o t . espectally for
those tit tile north t?ut t ttt # Commissioner Stul-
berq statedthat Ills concerns included the proposed setbacks
to therodelway, and relate(I variance.
P * ak to(pont m d Mettler of the Revised 1,51tePlan and Con-
ditional Use Permit kndment o o t Stott , tt ttlber tavc
nis concerns relate to th o €, Sete a *
qsft. p,,irking for the potentlal tetints icourt users, .nd
that the proposed location of the term co*ort near Cotintv
Road ; is inapproprIc e.
Indert inquired ivha qtr. Stulbero, was concerned with the
proposed setbacks,, especlally as they relate to 43rd
Comimlaalloner Stulbere, explained he felt the
proposed locationwas too close to, the adjacent roadways.
thereby ;" Creatinq potential sa, fet.vproblems,,, and did not
warrantaat tic e.
Coirm-issioner Pauba stated he concurred with the t*on tit
that It appears tO be WAtt a of financial hardshlp
exclusively, ato that there It ern rive looatioqs.
mtss, ar hire t t t1hat conte,ct d tin- impose
location veer County Roast "' is riot tete *lost c t ale, ha x-
v tite unod of rt- would be a, nice armenity - the
restidents., He stated he could recommend, approval of the
location if the improvement was more Inte(jr4ted with tete
alrolddy kipproved developinent with hi tt landscapinq.
aqe-
Roll Coil Vote. 4 Aves. Cophmissiotu,-r Steloorwald, Hay. VOTF - ROT104N TO, DFNY
MOTION b
111,atgia to r coniine d dpproval of the proposed _,, ,( 41 Calf
PIdt Subject to the eonditions In the staff r,(port,, Vote
ried.
0410TF St df f Subsequent1v has determined that there,is no
Latter Is ne(,essary only If the fomer Is tipproved.)
Chd l rwoman ,-I l tott ' Introdtleed the rk tiv.-Yat submitted by N -0
Hav-ovle Outdoor ick-vert 1 `c) r °1 n its D RCO.
rear ,ws waJved* She requev"ted, that -,.,tdff PE (83002)
review the s l ides of the sublect property.
Commussioner Wire 10,quired as to the r o ci s*ze t,f t1je
sign as it relates to the OrdInance requiroments and other
plv adv ,r e li . Std: explained t _posal
catts for 2,SS sq. ftp. sion, and that the Or;rov 1 s-
lons alloww d 300 sq. ftp SIVInk
zej, nd not the arq rreeie oay billboard sitla.
CoauaI,,,,,sIoner Pauba inquired if the sim would be Illuminat-
t4s. 1ye stated the siqn:would, illumloated with one
750 %atts and would abilde with the State lavi, re-
Ares that the 11juritinatton be turned from r_ 13ioit . to
6 AJI. the illuminatior, would not ,extend beyond tt', ,-lfvo of
e sloe as requiredd y SWte, law.
The Commlsslor,, Idea,. ified that the proposalncurred with
e Or net requirements.
Is.. Byestated the petitioner has o - , nt _ thetteywy'w pp}
yeti
y,x){{ d f n er n orderto .. 4 recommendedkA8dF70.' i Rdvc'4 cdiSs.4
numbers ncd 6 To date they have been an
therefore, aro concerned about the two confit .l n¢ Ms.' Rye
Mquir d bow the Conditional Use Permitstandards -sect for
reviewino, SuChapplications apply to theqe t1yo sp - c
conditionsw StAff suggested Thai the zein o I n
st-l.Qtjtd aet on, the proposdl and allow. the City Attorney :n
respond- the reltitionship.of thepetitionWand the, lana
With respect to the proposaland rec-ommended condi-
otl..
Cornmtssion, rlauqu '
u
ap-
plicationand therefore, Is vary m1leth InvolvedIn the dppro-
vali Staf f d[erst nds that the theoele rpan (Wonot
direotly sattsfY these two Mdlttofls however, the land -
cone
Staff explained a the purposes of the conditions e to
WWI the a property into « xv , tile Ord-
titance and tO flnaWethe fI&I of the rose eisev,,,nt which
WIN diefine setback, X di stan o for the 51qn.
Paubf to WO action on this petition. Vote 5 ayes. Con,
MissiOners Mdqnus and KuM,) absent. MOTION carried.
Witiou to recommend approval of the Conditional Ust, 11>e"ml
for Wegnife Outdoor Advert i is ' : y sutiject
condi tons as stated in teof boort. Vote 5 Ayes.
Comm an n . "! ' e '.
X
VOTE
Mmissloner Pauba requested that staff in, vest le Xh
existing outside to M the s eta tii determine If there
are Drainance violations.
Chatrivoitdri Vasillou introduced the :regq 'Fo- 'a (undttlonal W&TFLEOUTDOGR
Use or Weaele Outdoorerr s;! -t Company for arty ADVFRTISINq Co.
advertising sign to to locdtea at 1771! State Rlihway 55. CONDITIONAL USF
Readinu of the March , 1983 Stagy f fl' -rt WdS Wdie . PM (83001)
Choi woman V0131,11-Ou requestec staff revt w the slides of the
subject property.
holy o= Vasiltou read the letter support-Inq thesupport-Inrequest
dated Web 16, 1983 submitted to the Flanninq (ymmission
from Mr. Herbert A. cn-
4 n ej, representing Outdoor Adve tisin
COMpany st4tee she bad jeoncern with proposed oi .on,
number n that It Would preclude the use the syn I
the future based upon art unknown d kg op(ne(1t jtt111tl() ..
Staff explaloed the purpose of thecondition Is that any
sigave for at future proposed developm-ent should not be
limited because, of the proposed signaoe.,
Planning ss loft tllnutos
LIrch
Staff suqqested the condition be reworded to Wfer to loon-
sitlerat lost" of removal of the Yon upon future dev o,
staff nOted WvPral MaWles there similar condition
Chalr"om a t. u l(: sed the ubc- (ari
y Comwmj*ssioner Stelperw tit,, seeotided by amt
tutberq to take aetjoji on this ' potition. Vote 5 Ages.
MOTION by Commissioner tWwAt secanded by Commissioner RECOWFWATION
Wire to recommNid approval of the ` ntttonal Pso Formit
opplicatton for theqele Outdoor Advertisina Company subject
to W ronditUns as stated to the staff report with tondl-
tion nunber 5 to road: "Q)on wirtyn development of tot It
Block It Huqhston Additton, consideration may Include c v -
t of the outdoor advertisinq ''si ". Vote 5 Ayes. is t - VOTE
Chairwoman Vasiliou relognized two students from PlymouthilkT"Ifrw H1911 $0001 Ift, were -AtendlAq tbf' )WOission meetino
for their Social 'Studleas oldis.
Vasitiou rec0q Iz %Wlmember 1hreinen who
reported n ' the City C>Aell actlon of the March Z1,
meeting, The Cityit approved the petition fjr Charles
f 1dily URIt l ent ncept Plan-, and,, the a L ;
Devel0pillent pwroposal smbeitted by Lundqren Brothers -
struct ion Company for a IondU Guide Plan Arendment and
1nen Unit DSV e t ` Ancept Nan. He reviewedthe
reasons for toe Cynetl actions and direction, for future
Planning; ts n rtvJcw of the llima y plats and
plans.
Councilmember Threhen reviewed the Mavor and Council f d
for 1CAll t item r4umbers S. 14, 157 ' 1-,64 19 and,
ND were discussed z* they at, IM5 which ttt be referred
that the target completion dates are tentativei n lb *p t
to discu t n sett han(
AW Tie w Mdqnus arrived at 9WO P.M.
i1FURATMPIS [OR MARCH 1944
WItRISFRY SCHOOLO
4 1 ° i Ss Vorntngstar Nursery Sc1ioolhas reqajestedapproval of aondi jo Ike Pormit
to operate a nursery schoot W the Church of the l7piph4ny located in the southpast
c° r f* -.of r me 'Roo and Nathan Lane, Lot 1, flloe$ " ip any A -,i t on," * a -,d,,
WWREAN the Planninq COMMMona reviewed said reauest ku a duly called public
BE IT M FTSOLVER AN TOE MY (14TUL O THE CITY OFINOPR R
01MMOTA that It should and hereby Mes approve the request of FOrnhastar VhrserySchooloConditionalt;selern to uper to the schooI in the Church of the fi tphajjy1004tedIF, the southeast corner of Vomel Road and Matharw tone, LCK It Rook I!,
UP11 any A ", subject to the fol gel cond
w The Pemit is subject to, at I anpl leable c.odes, reaulattons and Ordinancesn
violatton thereof shall he arounds for rt-vooition.
Tho pte,mjt is tssued to tho : •*, .€xrras oper-outor of, the facility arid
3. The site sliaij tic. ;,rj.,in" cl M(1,1ner
4. My sione shall conform with, the (Itty Ortilslanc- Standards.
q Thp permit shallbe renewed in one year to assury compliance with the
6. A OOPY of the petitioner's 'State License shall e :50mitted atrinually for the
wo .
Ick.,
r DI URMNS TO 81E,' MET PRIOR TO FUINO,_ S ND REGARDRUC, KVI'SP11 PINAL PLAT FOR
TRUNTON PLACE FIRST ADDITIO'N" FOR U.S. M CORPORATION V1410411
H '. EA1,5, the City Council has, ro they Revised Findl Plat for "Trenton P*r t'
Addition" located eastt of, enton a,,,x and northof cotlaty Read 9,z andf
rc
for the Site Plan proved on ,." 7 under ResolutionNO,'e -
WH RFASS the request as been revioNved at 4, pc bll< hearirm by enn oaun , *011
NOW, HEMTORF 1 F 1T HEREBYSOLVE BY THE CITY COUNCIL`HF,' CITYOFLYMIO TV"
MIMM3SOT that t should and herebysaes approw, the :amendment and vartanc'for theRevisedSitePIdnsubjecttothofollOWWOc0nditions 'to be met prior to rpcordin(i of
an eoar inn the *rev l and the plan amellement
V id tn0eWithewevteDevelopment,, r cit and Resolution flumbers
setti'M Conditions to be met prior to Minq and reQardIno Final Flet, ,
approvinq the Site Plan and Conditional 11,150 Permit an tttri
conditions to (t:res -1 sett: * the condition t t prior t :
publishinq, the Rezuninq Ordlnawfor "'Crent nl t ,tion".
financial, quarantee forlVl t on, of approVed site r v ent .
4. A private traillsidewalk to the Installed alonq the Iv 15t side of Burets Lane
for pedestrian ccess to the tennis u This Improvement to be Included
Variances approved are setbac* to Cottrity Read ft. () t.: and t '
d2
3"d'i4.Y't L't a"9s f.l Y. as .T :&t om _.. '# u AIK"TV- TOR -1- - I L USE(ImP-Aw 0,200M
WHEREAS, aet;ele Outdoor Company as requested ioproval for a CoAditional
Use Plernott to.locate a ft. advertisli h-;i Zonina District at 1130,15
55; andj
WHEREAS, P14111'114, f C. M' SS4on has reviewed tills, request at a dily scheduledpuhlic
hv,4r1nq and has rt-mmmende i nv
Wkt R. BF IT HEREBY R V[D BY THE CITY COUNCK 0 `ITS OF LVMKI T
MIMNESOTAt j Flat it should and Thereby docs aPPrOve the ` nditiona , i1se Permit for
tonina Districttit 11305 fljqh vav 5 subject o the followlIa cnilt.
The permit is $ubJ0ct to all aPl cable eodes, reaulatlons, and ordinances,
andi a'st thereof shall be (irounds forrevocdtton.
The permit Is issued to the titioner and shall not he transferable.
The ite shall be maintained in s sanitary manner.
4. The permit shall be reviewed in one year to assure. compliance tvith the
conditions.
5. PIN 35-118-0-14-0003 and PIN 35-IIA-Z2-14-0002 shall be consolidated, Into
one pared.
r„ the pr(-pertt owner shall execute and submit a 30-ft. wide road and utility
easement alt',) ac the sotithern property line.
7. The siq shall not be used to advertise products or services of c..t-qs on the
rope k
S. Aim sot-wee ofpermitted Mum ati .a' scall not be directlyiie from
MISSION K-etirim gjS FOP, -ttA1?CF1 ?41
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RUIU-.
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FOR fl -ARI -ELF OUTDOOR AMEP1151nn (q low)
Use 1)ermit ocate a M sq. ft. Wortisinq slqrtto the P-3ntno d1striet, at 17715
WME"Pt As, the Planninq COMM!"Slon has reviewed this eou at a du1y sc(julefi
hearim, x4dhas euommi tided a pprov,
1,10W, THIACIORE, 8U 11 HEREBY RLSOLVFD RY DIP UTY COUNCIL M TV! CITY OF PLYM111TH,
WRI'LS TA, that it shotild and hereby does approvo t%e ytoit)f1se POrmit for
f6eqWn thitdoor Advertisteq 01MINnY tv WOW ISS sq. ft. advertisina siqla 1;w the R-41onlat, distrUA at 17715 Hlghw " ' :", tto the cel a coad t nfls,
1. ` The permft TS subject Q allplicable rudest€ Mali ins, and carlinanc e
and violation thereof shall he notpuls far revocation.
The periqtt Is issued the petitioner nd shall not be transrerable.
YK The site shall be maintainede In a sanitary franne
4. The'permtt shall w reviewed in one4 to asure nmplinn e with the
conditions.
5. Upost urban development of Lot t, Block 1, Ruphston ctcti , cousideration
may include removal of the outdoori
6. ' rqf source of permittedlum nra shall not, be carectly visible from
ne1gh orinq properties, road,, ind hIqhway$.
7.. The siqa QW1 be subje ? to rdinanc e non-conformi.no sloe provjs.jors sliculd
he *y be rezoned.
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